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"Team GB" would never win anything

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by Chris_Tagg (U1403134) 30 October 2007
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Let's forget this idea before it even gets off the ground.

The whole thing would turn into a politcal exercise (if it hasn't already!) and no team/squad would consist of the best available players... Pressures from the sponsoring FAs (and most likely their governments) mean it would inevitably end up consisting of an even number of players from each nation. This would also dictate the make-up of the starting XI.

Let's find something else to talk about...

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posted Mar 10, 2009

The English players would not get in, they are overrated and look good against their foreign team mates. Lets have a team Gb minus the England prima donas. Or if the english insist we can play and the winner rpresents the UK again, they would be easily beaten.

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comment by longoff (U8450321)

posted Mar 11, 2009

May the Lord preserve us from chippy Celts.

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comment by db (U2503720)

posted Mar 12, 2009

I can't understand why football is even in the olympics never mind this stupid debate.

No-one outside a bunch of politicians really wants this so why bother. three out of four nations have said no, that should be the end of it.

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posted Jun 2, 2010

As the originator of this debate, your comment is the first that I take exception to. This is NOT a non-story.

I am NOT british; I am English! That said, I wish all Irish, Scots and Welsh everything good. The UK is proof every single day that we do not make a good marriage. It's time for divorce and as friendly as is possible.

I do not want hassle or aggravation. I want freedom.

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posted Jun 2, 2010

Dungolfin. Whilst I firmly believe that Scotland must have independence I would mention a few errors of judgement when you were putting another "straight";

Yes, Brussels is now the centre of power.

Edinburgh does have a business focus but when communciation links are severed then how long will it last? After all, rail links from London to Scotland have only been there to serve the Scots. The English have no business in Scotland whatsoever. Bye the way, Frankfurt has neither the resources nor the expertise to replace London. As regards the population of the southeast then over 20% support Scotland.

When Westminster is recovered by the English, how will Scotland look after itself?

You are correct in that many English companies are infested with Scots. That is exactly what the English want to re-balance in both the public and private sectors.

As regards Oil and Gas then you are welcome to it all. The English never wanted it; only the Scottish influence in Westminster preserved it; it's mostly scandinavian anyway but make of it what you will.

The crucial question is, can you support all of the Anglo-Scots that might want to return to an independent Scotland. For sure, the English do not want them, especially in London. I refer to the two Scottish banks that required the majority of funding from the UK treasury recently in the credit-crunch. English banks like Barclays and Standard Chartered required no assistance.

As a Scot, you will claim that the UK is better for Scotland. As an Englishman, I do feel that we would be so much better without the burden of Scotland. Let us just agree that we are a burden to each other.


I am as devoutly English as I trust that you are devoutly Scottish. It is time we were both independent of each other. I wish you God speed and everything good. Will you return that complement?

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posted Jun 6, 2010

To our Scottish cousins:

Freedom For England!

Vote For Scottish Independence!

I for one wish you all the very best in taking your country and your anti-English views with you. ok

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comment by db (U2503720)

posted Jun 6, 2010

As regards Oil and Gas then you are welcome to it all. The English never wanted it; only the Scottish influence in Westminster preserved it; it's mostly scandinavian anyway but make of it what you will.
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Yeah, that's why the UK parliament redrew the boundaries of Scottish Water so that if we do get independence, England would still have claim to a fair bit of oil.

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You are correct in that many English companies are infested with Scots. That is exactly what the English want to re-balance in both the public and private sectors.
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What? Infested? What are you on about? These are people not rats or something. If they are there because they are good at what they do independence will not change that - assuming we are both EU countries. We're talking about the private sector. In terms of an England/Wales/NI government then of course Scots would no place there but any private company the world over has the right to hire anyone it wants regardless of their nationality if they are eligible to work in said country.

I live in Edinburgh and there are plenty of English and other non-Brits working and living here. The attitude of not welcoming others and kicking out of foreigners looks to be solely on your side my friend.
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The crucial question is, can you support all of the Anglo-Scots that might want to return to an independent Scotland. For sure, the English do not want them, especially in London.
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Even more nonsense. I have a few family members working in the London area who get on very well with their colleagues and have plenty of friends. No-one has ever told them to get back to Scotland. See they work and contribute to society and therefore their nationality means nothing. If you personally don't want a hard working tax payer in your country it says more about you than them. To be honest the above comment is quite xenophobic and pathetic. We don't want you because you're from another country. What century do you live in?
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When Westminster is recovered by the English, how will Scotland look after itself?
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Recovered? What did we steal it or something? The English have the most MPs of any home nation so how exactly would you be recovering it? The election just proved that a party can also form a government with only one Scottish seat and you think you're the ones that need to recover power.
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I do feel that we would be so much better without the burden of Scotland
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These are the latest figures I can find from 2007
Scotland contributed 42.7bn in oil money to the UK - not including any other revenue. And it took out 49,9bn. Now that is going by the redrawn water lines. If we were actually going by water geographically adjacent to Scotland we would contribute 50.7bn effectively pulling our own weight. It is easy to throw around stats and say we are not putting in what we take out when you can move the goalposts at will.
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I am as devoutly English as I trust that you are devoutly Scottish. It is time we were both independent of each other. I wish you God speed and everything good. Will you return that complement?
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Absolutely. I have no problem with English people and have great times down there but that has nothing to do with wanting my country to be independent.

First and foremost my country is my country and I'm very patriotic about it. I don't like the idea that is not entirely self governing.

You talk about Scotland taking care of itself. We are not a primary school child, we are a country of normal educated people just like the rest of the UK. I'm sure we'd manage to govern ourselves. Honestly, who the hell do you think you are sitting behind your keyboard down there questioning something like that as if your nationality gives you some kind of superiority and governing ability us Scots simply don't have. I believe I've already answered the question about resources.

Scotland is also the leading country in Europe for renewable energy. 20 % of Scottish electricity is produced by renewable methods. And that is with a largely untapped potential. It is not unforeesable that all of Scotlands power could come from renewables within 50 years.

Anyway rant over, point is Scotland could support itself if it was independent and unclouded and non-propaganda driven stats prove as such.

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posted Jun 24, 2010

db (U2503720)... sorry for my late response but I do hope you get it. Y'see, I think we both passionately want the same thing, ie independence for our respective countries. Sadly, this passion makes us also confrontational. Now, I mean no disrespect to you as a Scot but sometimes my desire for independence does get in the way of the manner in which I present my case. If I may say so, I think yours does too.

Look, we are on the same side, ie freedom. I sincerely wish Ireland, Scotland and Wales everything good as my neighbouring countries. Frankly, neither your problems nor your aspirations are any of my business. Like you, I want my country to be free. I want your country to be free too.

The thing is that you and I don't come from the same tribe or history. Trying to force us into unity is, well, simply subjugation. You feel that and so do I.

Perhaps I did use overly emotive terms like infestation; it's just a reaction to the Political Correctness that dominates the UK. So, allow me to offer a sincere apology if I caused offence. Simple fact is that we are both driven by the same cause of freedom so why don't we unite to make it happen? Scotland and England could be very close and mutually supportive neighbours, as we have proved.

What we can't do is be integrated, as we are proving.

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posted Jun 24, 2010

Assensai

applause

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comment by db (U2503720)

posted Jun 29, 2010

assensai

Thanks for the well mannered response. I think i had had a beer or two when I wrote that and it was probably more aggressive than I would normally be.

You are right though. A lot of people don't want to be forced under this Great British umbrella. That doesn't mean we can't get on or live and work together as independent countries. If anything I think the relationship between our countries would improve greatly if we were independent. The English wouldn't be able to whine about us and maybe a few of us Scots would lose the chip from their shoulders.

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