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i.e. after the world cup !Anyone have any offers for the next England team to be selected, assuming no injuries.....basically a "Where do we go from here" discussion.
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posted Oct 4, 2007
It's pure and simple how England can win - they have to get on top in the front row and shove them to oblivion! This is the only area of the field where England could be stronger. They have better lineout men and a better back row. We've got to go forward, force them offside and let Johnny do the rest. If they have the majority of the possession and run at us through the middle, we'll be in trouble because Tait is too weak defensively.
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what about Lesley vainikolo?
What this seems to highlight is that we don't have enough wingers. Strettle is a banker so no worries.However, Varndell is useless under the high ball and in defence - you may as well have a cardboard cutout. Scarborough, who appears the other suggestion is too old - Sackey is younger.Ellis is also out for a year - so no guarantee he will return to the same form.I think long term Hipkiss will come in at 13 with Tait moving to 15. Cipriani will then compete with JW and Geraghty for 10, and Flood with Allen and Turner Hall at 12.As for Hartley there is no doubt in my mind that as long as he stays injury/suspension free that he will play for England. I believe he would have made the RWC this time if not for his ban. Also watch out for Batty at hooker, and David Wilson at TH (he has huge potential already and will have Hayman to learn from!)
Stop being short-sighted you lot.....You all mostly name just one player in each position !!Why do you think NZ have been strong the last 2-3 years ??England have the talent available from a large rugby playing population so they need to be getting 2 or 3 players in each position. Every position needs at least 2 international class players these days with the playing schedule and injuries. Graham Henry may not win the world cup but imho has done a fantastic job in injury-proofing the All Black side. Even Dan Carter and Richie McCaw are dispensible....This process takes 2-3 years as GH has demonstrated but he now has a squad with an average age of 27 (supposedly at their peak physically) and an average cap count over 40..England need to start this process next month to be ready for 2011 with 40 players who are 18-26 years old (max) now. The odd person from this team may still be around but not many... As with any sport you only get better by playing better players but the youngsters need to be rotated around so they get the experience at the top level and not in "A" teams or "Saxons" etc and yes results will be poor for a year or two - but that will have to be accepted. Good luck !
Best backline in the world against a sludge pile. Can't see how England can score any points except from Wilkinson's boot. Eng just don't have the arsenal this time round and will face a heavy defeat against a stronger and faster opponent. Forget the payback from 2003 it comes down to a superior opponent who will rout the team England on the field this Saturday. Australia to win by 30. Go the green and gold!!!!!!!
I'm sorry but I simply cannot see the point in these endless team lists that you poeple constantly publish. It's borderline obsessive.The cricket boards are full of such postings as well.I'm slightly annoyed that Al Baxter is within cooee of the Wallaby front row, but it makes no difference what I think. The selectors have a job and I have no chance of influencing that.
<< What this seems to highlight is that we don't have enough wingers. Strettle is a banker so no worries.However, Varndell is useless under the high ball and in defence - you may as well have a cardboard cutout. Scarborough, who appears the other suggestion is too old - Sackey is younger. >>That's a wild exaggeration about Varndell. He is, after all, a first choice winger for a team who are known for a stingy defence. His tackling technique needs work, but he doesn't tend to miss them.As far as capped wingers under 30 go we have...James Simpson Daniel, 25(3 tries in 10 games for England)Paul Sackey, 27 (5 tries in 7 games for England)Mark Cueto, 27(13 tries in 23 games for England)Tom Varndell, 22(2 tries in 3 games for England)David Strettle, 24(1 try in 3 games for England)Nick Abendanon, 21(0 tries in 2 games for England)Iain Balshaw (shudder), 28(13 tries in 30 games for England)And uncapped young wingers...Matt Banahan, 20Mark Foster, 24James Bailey, 24Ugo Monye, 24Tom Biggs, 23Topsy Ojo, 22The list goes on...
Mortlock playing after 2 weeks out with a dislocated shoulder, that will go again with the first crunching tackle, No Larkham, his young replacement will be no match for the world's best fly half; no not poser Carter but Jonny Boy. England to win by 7 points.
If England play the same dire brand of appallingly boring rugby which they have done since 2003 then they will get smashed. Australia to win at a canter by 20 points. England can then go home, sack Ashton and his back room cronies, clear out 4/5ths of the team and start all over again. Roll on friday
posted Oct 6, 2007
I started this article and I am thoroughly ashamed. England were utterly brilliant.
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