posted Sep 17, 2007

"the Ref should pay for his mistake also."

I don't think punishing refs (or linesmen) for mistakes is a good idea. These are the best refs we have in the country, trying to do the best they can - and sometimes they screw up. But how is punishing them going to help? If they are the best we've got and they still make mistakes, then punishing them isn't going to help.

Would you want to work in a high-pressure job where you could make a 100 decisions in 90 minutes and if just one of those decision is wrong you get made to "pay" for it?

How do you intend to punish them? Fines? Making them grovel for forgiveness at Jose's feet?

Paul Robinson hasn't been made to "pay" for his recent blunders. He hasn't been fined for making honest mistakes, even though those mistakes have hrut his team. Why should referees be any different?

We wouldn't even have football without referees. We should be trying to make their job easier, not harder. And believe me, knowing that they face severe punishment if they make one single error makes things a lot, lot harder.

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posted Sep 17, 2007

Mourinho is entertaining, don't punish people for making it more fun to watch.

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posted Sep 17, 2007

I look forward to Hackett making a full apology in public, and the linesman in question being suspended for FOUR weeks (that decision was twice as bad as the Liverpool 'penalty')

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posted Sep 17, 2007

In a very simple statement,it's only right to follow the laid down law. They Linesman has to face the music and the ref cos he could have Ignored the flag if he was sure. I have seen games where by the center ref ignores the lineman as long as he's sure, so i wonder why the Ref was at that time. The funny thing is why have an electronic screen around if u dot use them? If The center Ref could meet his lines man to confirm a decision, why not call on the 4th offical also that has the screen to confirm also, so it's a very silly mistake but maybe a delibrate one as many people are talking abt the Liverpool game.

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posted Sep 17, 2007

"In a very simple statement,it's only right to follow the laid down law. They Linesman has to face the music and the ref cos he could have Ignored the flag if he was sure. I have seen games where by the center ref ignores the lineman as long as he's sure, so i wonder why the Ref was at that time. The funny thing is why have an electronic screen around if u dot use them? If The center Ref could meet his lines man to confirm a decision, why not call on the 4th offical also that has the screen to confirm also, so it's a very silly mistake but maybe a delibrate one as many people are talking abt the Liverpool game."

Why didn't he check with the 4th official? Because according the rules of the game, laid down by Fifa, no video evidence is allowed to affect the ref's decision. That's the rule. If you want to debate that rule, then take your anger out on Fifa, not the ref.

As for the suggestion he made the mistake on purpose... well, I think it's unfair to make an accusation like that when you haven't the slightest shred of proof. Officials make mistakes, just like players. Shevchenko, for example, missed two sitters. That doesn't mean he was deliberately missing them because he hates Jose...

Or does it... :P

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posted Sep 17, 2007

Why didn't he check with the 4th official? Because according the rules of the game, laid down by Fifa, no video evidence is allowed to affect the ref's decision. That's the rule. If you want to debate that rule, then take your anger out on Fifa, not the ref.

As for the suggestion he made the mistake on purpose... well, I think it's unfair to make an accusation like that when you haven't the slightest shred of proof. Officials make mistakes, just like players. Shevchenko, for example, missed two sitters. That doesn't mean he was deliberately missing them because he hates Jose...
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Read well i said why have that screen there then if u dont need it, then the FA is a joke for having it there, if not jose wouldnt have looked at it in the first place. I didnt mean the ref planned to disallow that goal, read what i said, i said probably cos everyone is talking abt Liverpool game.... that statement goes for the critics, of cos the ref didnt plan that but a mistake is a mistake.

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posted Sep 17, 2007

"Read well i said why have that screen there then if u dont need it, then the FA is a joke for having it there, if not jose wouldnt have looked at it in the first place. I didnt mean the ref planned to disallow that goal, read what i said, i said probably cos everyone is talking abt Liverpool game.... that statement goes for the critics, of cos the ref didnt plan that but a mistake is a mistake."

Fair point. Maybe it is a bad idea to have the screen there. I expect its to give the managers another way to analyse the game and make decisions. 'least I assume so. But yes, if its going to provoke managers, then maybe it shouldn't be there.

I apologise if I misread you. I'm glad you don't think they were trying to cheat.

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posted Sep 17, 2007

Maybe now the balance is redressed and Chelsea can play without the "gift" that's been hanging over them since the Liverpool game. It's football; everyone knows the best team doesn't always win.
So Chelsea start the week following a promising display and can look ahead to better results. More goals please to secure those 3 points so that a bad decision is not the deciding factor. "we was robbed" will mean nothin next May.
The officials had their hands full on saturday, mistakes there were a-plenty, and "the Special One"'s tantrum was entertainment for all. Even Mark Hughes claiming the goal he saw was clearly off side. Really Mark?..

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posted Sep 17, 2007

you know i have hardly met a chelsea fan who gives a damn about the affairs of other teams but when it comes to chelsea everyone is talking this and talking that.what is wrong with Mourhino being upset over a disallowed goal that could probably determine chelsea winning the PL,what is this stupid half a yard thing you all are talking about, watch the replay carefully and you would see that kalou was behind the ball and balleti was a few yard ahead of kalou,how on earth would kalou be offside. The attack on the Blackburn player by mikel may not be a penalty because mikel hardly had contact with him, if you watch the replay from the right side but from the left side it does look like mikel made contact and the reason why terry was upset is because he was on the right side and saw clearly what happened,watch the replay again.However the penalty decision is inconsequential as we could go back time and pull up cases where penalties would have been given and was not given (the foul on sean wright phillips against Aston Villa in the first few minutes of the game) and we should not forget that the same refree that gave a penalty decision in favour of chelsea against Liverpool gave a penalty in favour of Liverpool some seasons ago against shellfield or west ham can't really remember which team for now and then THE REFREE WAS SUSPENDED AFTER LIVERPOOL'S COMPLAINTS in the match against chelsea, so what is wrong with chelsea complaining and why shouldnt the refree of the match b/w chelsea and Blackburn Rovers be suspended?

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posted Sep 18, 2007

As an avid footbal fan but an even more enthusiastic rugby player I'd like to give some advice for those with what is commonly called a Soccer mentality. Field sports are just that sports - so look at the sportsmanship aspects of the situation we are discussing. So what is sportsmanship? To me it means trying to do the right thing in the right way at all times on the field of play yes that means playing to win and being passionate about playing but including respecting the referees decision. Human error is a fact of life.
With the advent of modern technology we can help the officials by giving them access to better tools. Just like the video ref in Rugby! Proven technology that adds to the enjoyment of the GAME as the result is more often right and fairer.
However the one thing I miss in so much of the footbal coverage TV makes and the so-called professionals who play and commentate on it do is the fundamental respect true sportsmen should have for each other and the officials of their game.
At the end of the day that is all football is a GAME. The biggest GAME in the world I concede but still compared to real issues like world hunger or the reason for life it's still just a game. Big Business has taken over much of what we the ordinary fans love about the game - but if we as supporters can't respect those who make it possible then we are a long way from being able to cast stones of retribution.
I vote for video refs on crucial match deciding points at the discretion of the referee on the pitch. I am also happy to let the Managers rant all they like on the sidelines as part of the entertainment value they sometimes bring - provided those who abuse officials and/or other players/managers are consistently punished.
Where I come from they call it common decency! But in today's Football circles that appears to be a less than common commodity!

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