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D Dein, Good or Bad for AFC??

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by agoonerslife-*NBG* (U7149930) 10 September 2007
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I ask this question, because im increasingly becoming more and more wary of Deins actions, since coming back with the Russian investor Usmanov.

I have no doubt in my mind that Dein was great for the club once, but i think hes presence is doing more harm than good.
Just recently he said Arsenal could not compete without a cash injection, but we all know that this isnt the case.

How many times has Wenger said, the money is there, but his taken this route of developing young players, his most famous line being, "why buy stars when you can make them??"
So either Wenger is not being completely honest(which i doubt very much) or Dein infact is stirring the couldren.

We will soon find out, when Keith Edelman reveals our profits in the next month, just how well AFC are doing.

The other point about Dein, is this notion, that he was essentially responsible for Wenger signing his new contract.
Now once again, Dein proves what a fantatsic PR machine he is for himself,
didnt Wenger say, shortly after Deins departure that he will sit down with our board and discuss his new contract??

Didnt Wenger also state that Deins departure will not affect his committment to the club? so why is Dein saying he had a "chat" with Wenger and convinced him to sign??

Could it be that a takeover is on the cards and Dein wants the fans to be on his side, rather than the board?
Like i said above, ive become more wary of Deins actions when he left the club, and even more so now, hes returned.

Ive lost respect for the man, and believe he could be detrimental, to the future of our great club, but i also understand he has many admirers right here on 606 as well.

So What are your thoughts on D Dein?....

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posted Sep 12, 2007

Dein shouldn't have gone running to the media saying 'wenger came close to leaving'
what good is that going to do?

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posted Sep 12, 2007

dd's intentions are good but the way he's executing them is bad for anyone who's connected to arsenal being wenger the board or the fans

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posted Sep 12, 2007

It seems it's got very personal between DD and certain members of the current board bt as sweeney_LFC said, I don't understand why mentioned Arsene's name at all when speaking to the media. It seemed like a statement of sour grapes to most people (including me) and was unnecessary really as it didnt help anyone, if anything it's hurt DD standing even more with the people who really want whats best for Arsenal at the end of the day, us fans! This unwanted attention because of these personal battles fought out through the media isn't the Arsenal way and DD would do well to remember that before he starts telling anyone what's best for Arsenal.

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posted Sep 12, 2007

dein loves arsenal but he is blinkered ever since he got kroenke in his been a terwat. now hes got usmanov in and is making himself a fool.

in a couple of weeks or so dein is going to be running again because edelman will release the most impressive financial results ever. hopefully by then every arsenal fan will be calling for his head.

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posted Sep 12, 2007

Dein has really lost the plot now it seems, making bizzare claims and selling his soul for some roubles.

At the moment Arsenal are on track to be one of the best financed clubs in the world. Within our current business plan. Unless we are talking about someone as rich as Bill Gates why should we even harbour these talks. By the time Wenger's current contract is up we will be in profit and making money hand over fist.

There is a very real chance the Premiership bubble will burst leaving all the wealthy businessmen trying to off load a loss making business. Meanwhile Arsenal could be in the enviable position of being owned by the same group of dedicated Arsenal fans that have always controlled the club, being solvent with enough revenue to sustain us in the long term.

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posted Sep 12, 2007

There seems to have been a bigger argument that what the media was let in about. Arsenal owners are apparently in 2 camps. The get-the-profits-now and the wait it is getting juicier/sweeter soon. Dein belongs to the former & the rest to the later. Either may be right about what is more profitable. looks like Dein was out to convince & win over. His colleagues wanted to do the same for another strategy. They failed to compromise and forget it. Over time the urge to win in the power struggle between egos will be die down and, who knows, they will listen to each other better and get more rational and work together again. If they do not, Arsenal win suffer at all levels including players' motivation.

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posted Sep 12, 2007

All your arguments are flawed.

Your premises are false. The Board will NEVER compromise with DD. That is a fact.

The Board are not trying to score points, they have responsibility that they are discharging.

DD is the detractor.

Period.

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posted Sep 13, 2007

Any fool and his dog can see whatís going onÖ there is a war between Hill and Dean. All you have to do is ask yourself who was Wengers closest ally, Hill or Dean.
Who had the most shares in the club, Hill or Dean (putting £s where your mouth is)
Who trudged around the U.K watching all the matches both senior and junior, Hill or Dean.

Dean wasnít fired it was a well planned assassination; Dean sees the future one way and Hill another. Just ask yourself one question who will be watching out for Arsenal in 5 years time, a guy who plans for the future or someone stuck in the past. Do you really think we would have had the Wenger contract debacle if Dean had still been on the board.

The world changes, those that canít keep up get eliminated.


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posted Sep 14, 2007

alwaysafc, your knowledge in the namely boardroom fight is quite limited. Sadly to say.

"there is a war between Hill and Dean"
Wrong. It's more of a war between Fiszman abd Dein. Also it's 'Dein', not 'Dean'.

"Who had the most shares in the club, Hill or Dean (putting £s where your mouth is) "
Again, wrong. Fiszman had THE MOST shares in the club BEFORE Dein sold his own shares.

"Who trudged around the U.K watching all the matches both senior and junior, Hill or Dean."
You mmight get this right, in a way. But does this entitle Dein to sell Arsenal to investors?

"Dean wasnít fired it was a well planned assassination"
OMG you got it so wrong. Dein tried to get Kroenke to assasin the board, not the other way around.

"Just ask yourself one question who will be watching out for Arsenal in 5 years time, a guy who plans for the future or someone stuck in the past."
You may refer this question to Leeds fans. Surely they will be very happy to answer.

"Do you really think we would have had the Wenger contract debacle if Dean had still been on the board."
What debacle? Wenger had said he is in a marraige with the club and never had a doubt in staying. Wenger said comments like this a number of times on the official site.

"The world changes, those that canít keep up get eliminated."
The board just successfully got the club moved into a 60,000 seat stadium. Isn't that a change?

Talking about being eliminated. You amy take another look at Dein and the whereabout of his previous shares. I reckon he might have just pretty much eliminated his previous good works. <erm>

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posted Sep 22, 2007

if usmanov takes over it would be a sad day for us. the soul and tradition of the club would be gone, and we would become lifeless like chelsea and man united.

i think it's better in the long run if we are self-sufficient, without having to always rely on usmanov's millions. i don't want the club i love to become his play thing for a while, and be millions in debt like man united and chelsea.

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