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Britain add to tally in the relay

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Great Britain collected their fourth medal of the championships in the men's 4x100m relay.

Britain's selectors had placed great hopes on the team adding to their medal tally in the relays.

And the quartet of Christian Malcolm, Craig Pickering, Marlon Devonish and Mark Lewis-Francis delivered with a bronze.

Laura Turner, Montell Douglas, Emily Freeman and Joice Maduaka were also unlucky to just miss out of the medals in the women's sprint relay.

Roman Sebrle fought back to take an elusive world title while Meseret Defar did likewise in the women's 5,000m.

Your thoughts on day eight, please.

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posted Sep 1, 2007

Kenya since the days of Kip Keino so maybe that is about the times of the '68 Summer Olympics has been at the vanguard of cross country.

Sweden is at the tops of ice hockey along with say Canada.

If you want a country that is being impressive; I've got to think Russia is in these games.

Also, all check out the placement table. That's interesting, instead of just the medals.

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posted Sep 1, 2007


MILK RAcer
Your right a knowledeable track and field fan would check out the placing table. Its not just medal alone that counts. The collective performance by the entire team should be taken into consideration. Thats were the placing table comes into the equation.

Reference Jamaica's sports.

' what do they know of Jamaica's sports,who only Jamaica's sports know'

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posted Sep 2, 2007

Shiny Broadsword said

"Lets get real here folks Britain's 4 medals, are nothing compared to KENYA 3 2 5 10, at a cost of a few quid! Wake up and smell the Coffee for Gods sake!"

Yepo, Kenya, with it's natural altitude, and the african physique which is suited to middle and long distance running have got a lot of medals.

In Britain we don't get born at altitude, we don't have the same natural physique and we are less suited to the middle and long distance races than Kenayans. The odd athelte (i.e. Paula Radcliffe) comes along to challenge the african women, but the men's races are dominated by African nations (mainly Kenya) and africans who now run under other flags (mainly Kenyans). It doesn't matter how much you spend on athletics if you stay legal you have a natural disadvantage in this country.

And before anyone says we used to be competititve, yes, we did, when the African nations were not as heavily into the sport. Foster, Moorecroft, Bedford, all fine atheltes, but they did not overcome this natural disadvantage. Sure they ran well, against a developing african block, but look at their times, and you will see that in world terms they are off the pace now that the Kenyans have gone into the sport in a big way.

3000m Moorecroft 7.32.79
5000m Moorecroft 13.00.41
10000m Foster 27.30.3

Commonwealth top 10 3000m all time 10 Kenyans.
Top 20 5000m 19 Kenyans and Criag Mottram in 17th
Top 20 10000m 18 Kenyans a Tanzanian and a Ugandan
Marathon top 20 19 Kenyans and a South African
3000m s/c 20 Kenyans.

So let's smell the coffee Shinybroadsword, our best atheltes ever at these distances were nowhere near the Kenyans, they did it off hard work and their natural talent, so did the Kenyans, the Kenyans had more natural talent, so their work to them further. The Coffee I am smelling tells me the world has moved on and believing that somehow we shoudl match the success of Kenya just because of money is ridiculous, it's an argument that holds no water, unless you think we should use the money to bring in Kenyan athletes, or to find ways of using PED's.

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posted Sep 2, 2007

Excuses,excuses, excuses! the world is moving on and it is usually one step ahead of our money wasting failure of a NGB!

Like I said smell the coffee, get on the train to reality!

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posted Sep 2, 2007

Does anyone know the splits for Great Britain's relay cause Mark Lewis Francis looked quick...or was Asafa Powell slow.

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posted Sep 2, 2007

MLF had 5m at least on powell and powell seemed to lose form after 80m and still beat MLF> Please if MLF was as good as he thinks he is he'd have done the american.

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comment by lsabre (U1743466)

posted Sep 2, 2007

First, in answer to a couple of people here, there was no case of drawing comparisons to Jamaica or any sort of criticising them in any way. Someone implied here, making use of Jamaica as an example, that there is no hunger in British athletes (familiar rubbish from people aiming at hitting out at the sport). So I explained that Jamaica, as some other countries like Kenya, Ethiopia or Belaruse, which have limited financial resources or athletic pool tend to specialise in certain areas of sport or certain areas within athletics and meet with success there. These countries may have other sports, as it 's natural, but the ones where they excel are two or three. A common ground among these countries also is that they have no professional sports to draw a vast portion of their talent pool.
Just look at another country with a low per capita income, Brasil, on the other hand. They are densely populated, they have a vast talent pool, but don 't produce top athletes in numbers - the reason, they have professional and highly rated soccer league and most youths will opt for it. Soccer is sort of a ritual for them as well.
I presented Olympic medal statistics for Britain over the last two occasions to demonstate the extent and areas over which excel and the bulk of their manpower stretches. It was not aimed at any comparison or whatever.

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posted Sep 2, 2007

ShinyBroadsword wrote

"Excuses,excuses, excuses! the world is moving on and it is usually one step ahead of our money wasting failure of a NGB!

Like I said smell the coffee, get on the train to reality!"

So no denial of antyhing I wrote, no debate on any of the points, just a quick dismissal.

Get on a train to reality yourself and have a look how non African heritage male runners do in endurance events these days. Take a quick look at the record books.

You are in denial about the state of the world becuase you have a need to criticise UKA.

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posted Sep 3, 2007

Regarding: "excuses"

Just an interesting note of record;

The Horn of Africa has good long distance runners, Kenya, Ethiopia, but even to a quite lesser degree Somalis and Eritreans.

But then, for anyone saying excuses.

For Subsaharan Africa; for football/soccer, the concentration is clearly in the West. Ivory Coast, Nigeria, Cameroon, Togo, Ghana, Liberia (Iberia? home country of Weah) and even DR Congo, Senegal.

Yet, if you check Kenya and Ethiopia; I have friends in those countries, but they come up markedly short in FIFA football rankings.

South Africa is one country that I believe has been aiming towards success in football and track.

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posted Sep 20, 2007

Great Britain NEED TO IMPROOF MORE ON THERE 4x100m relay TEAM LOOK AT THE JAMICAN AND THE AMERICAN TEAN THEY NOW ONCE THEY THE GUN GO OF THEY HAVE A MEDAL IN THERE HANDS IT'S JUST AL ABOUT THE 2 TEAM JAMAICAN AND AMERICAN THEY ARE THE BEST, TEAM GB WELL THE HAVE LOTS OF WORK TO DO BEFORE 2008 GAME BECAUSE THE FOCUS WILL BE ON 2 BIG TEAM, AND WE KNOW WHO ARE THOSE 2 TEAM. JAMAICAN AND AMERICAN AND THE SAME AT 2012.

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