posted Aug 1, 2007

Trueblue. It has been rare to hear a sectarian song being sung at Parkhead for as long as I can remember now (unless Rangers are playing) although Celtic do have a minor problem with some away fans.

However, if you would like a good barometer of the problems at both clubs then consider which team has been subject to and found guilty by UEFA investigations. Celtic fans grudge being lumped in with Rangers everytime this discussion comes up. "Bad as each other" The usual tripe whereas in fact and I mean FACT the scale of the problem is far worse at one side of the city.

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posted Aug 2, 2007

How could Celtic openly declare a policy! There has never, ever, ever, ever been one, since 1888. TrueBlue....read the article.........I never mentioned fanbases. Celtic have never been a sectarian club - FACT!

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posted Aug 2, 2007

People follow football teams for more than where they live....read the comment carefully!
If people from Inverness follow Celtic then you are suggesting they follow success or are bigots? Nonsense! People in New York who follow Celtic are automatically bigots by your theory? or success followers? Following Celtic is often linked to cultural identity, absolutely nothing to do with bigotry in most cases. If you understood more, you wouldnt make such a ridiculous aside!

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posted Aug 2, 2007

Why is it that if you were born and bred or simply live close to (or none of these) Motherwell or Falkirk and support them, then that's OK, but if you follow Celtic because your family's history relate more closely to theirs and you empathise with their well declared - from day one - entirely worthy and inclusive raison d'être and traditions, you are somehow classed by a certain kind of Scot as a sectarian bigot.

There is but one team with a history of sectarianism and bigotry - whose fans still declare as much each time they sing about ancient matters where Catholics are the subjects of the songs punch-lines - and that team is Rangers.

The difference is lost on many in Scotland brought up on a diet of clannishness, institutional bias and denial of what are obvious facts.

Only one group have been the victims of this bias in Scotland for more than a century - and in their own country, Ireland, for many more centuries - and the other group have been the perpetrators of it throughout. Yet, they are both classed as being 'just' two sides of the SAME coin.

It is preferable - and character building - to be the innocent targets of such abberant and downright criminal behaviour, but to be told that you are the same as the cheats and scoundrels is an insult to logic and cuts across the main trait that characterises most Scots in virtually every other circumstance - fairness.

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posted Aug 2, 2007

Some tough comments on here Chic - I hope you will be making sure you unhold good ethics in supporting Kilmarnock to ensure they are not robbed once again of a key asset. Have to admit with dodgy talk of clauses I have my concerns. Be clear, it is not good for the Scottish game for the OF to fleece all the other teams of their decent players in order to warm their benches and staff their reserve teams. This is partly why Scotland have not qualified for so long...

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posted Aug 4, 2007

Shayjfc, what cultural identity do Celtic have? If you try that nonsense about them being an Irish club then forget it. Being started by an Irish priest does not make them Irish, which incidentally is why most of those so called supporters in America follow them. They are a Scottish club from Glasgow and if you're not Glaswegian the only other logical reason for "supporting" them is because they win

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posted Aug 4, 2007

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Shayjfc, what cultural identity do Celtic have? If you try that nonsense about them being an Irish club then forget it. Being started by an Irish priest does not make them Irish, which incidentally is why most of those so called supporters in America follow them. They are a Scottish club from Glasgow and if you're not Glaswegian the only other logical reason for "supporting" them is because they win


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How lazy is this guy?

Either that or just plain ignorant.

Try finding out some facts before committing such drivel to print.

Or, are you one of those who finds that facts that don't fit your prejudices are just too inconvenient to bother with?

Start with 'Celtic and the Irish diaspora' - you'll be amazed at what you learn.

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posted Aug 4, 2007

Doobyduck is the reason why there are so many problems in Scotland. Plain ignorance. At no time did I say that Celtic were Irish, however, if you knew your history you would be aware that a mass exodus of Irish immigrants to the UK, America and other countries has led to a large immigrant group emerging in the West of Scotland who were discriminated against. Organisations such as Celtic gave them something to support and feel part of. If you think about it, instead of peddling your narrow minded moronic and ignorant comments, then you may realise that if you moved to America tomorrow, your kids and their kids would probably still have an affiliation with Scotland, and quite rightly so. That wouldn't make you a bigot! The people of Irish descent who moved to Scotland and America have done the same!!!!

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posted Aug 4, 2007

By Doobyduck's theory if I move from the East end of Glasgow to Govan, I should give my support to Rangers! They are succesful too..at times! Ignorance is bliss!!!!!!!

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posted Aug 5, 2007

Typical Chick he writes an article on a subject that has been done to death. let the clubs deal with the bigots and if they dont the SFA should disapline the club.

Any way The Bairns are on top where they should be.

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