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Tribute to Freddie Welsh

by Sean Davies (U1712711) 27 July 2007
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It's the 80th anniversary of the premature death of Freddie Welsh this Sunday, one of the true greats of Welsh, British and world boxing.

I've published a feature on him at news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/box... if you're interested.

It's always hard to compare fighters from different eras, but I've got him ranked as the second-best Welsh boxer of all time - news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/box...

Any thoughts on this or tributes to Freddie?

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posted Jul 27, 2007

RIP, the original ‘Welsh Wizard!’

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posted Jul 27, 2007

Thats a fair old top 10 for any country.
How would ya see Colin Jones V Ricky Hatton at welter?

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posted Jul 27, 2007

Colin Jones V Ricky Hatton at welter- what a fight, absaloute bloodbath. I'd go with Jones late rounds.

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posted Jul 27, 2007

Was always disappointed that Jones and Honeyghan missed each other (just).
As for Freddie Welsh, good article, never knew that much about the fella. Old style tough nut. But must have been good to reduce the known stylist ' peerless' Jim Driscoll to using the head. Just read the Owen book ' the big if'. heartbreakin stuff. They don't make em like that anymore.

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posted Jul 27, 2007

A good article and as you say it's hard to compare fighter's from differant eras but if you are still writing about him 80 year's on he must have been something special even in those day's when everyone was tougher in there day to day lives working 12 hours down a coalmine in a steelworks foundry no central heating and just enough to eat ect the Boxer's where extra tough i personally wouldn't like to compare them to the post war fighter's.
The two best Welsh fighter's i've had the pleasure in watching live were Colin Jones when he fought Don the Cobra Curry at the NEC in Birmingham i was in my early teen's at the time and along with other members of my abc put the programs on all the seat's and got in for nothing, the atmosphere was one of the best i've ever experanced at any sporting event and the chant's of Colin Colin and Wales Wales are still with me today! the other one was when Joe Calzache beat Ritchie Woodhall who i was supporting. Calzache is the best 'dodger/slipper' of punches i've ever seen and the most under rated fighter a lot of people seem to judge him on his personalty rather than he's Boxing skill's which is sad where as Colin Jones is by far the best Boxer never to have been a world champion i've ever seen.
How Freddy Welsh compares to these two are for other's to decide as i can't. <ale>

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posted Jul 27, 2007

I feel over thew last few thread Colin Jones has been taken out of his sporting remits to be honest(I'm Welsh by the way.)

Colin lacked nothing in courage,but his openess to a good jab,right hand combination was there for all to see.

Wales' history in boxing is legendary and will continue under the tutelage of Enzo(Newbridge.)Although I feel it can be over exagerated with the hero worship of great Welsh boxers like Jones but I would never call him great.Leave that to Wilde and Welsh.

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posted Jul 27, 2007

Coslodeotter do you reckon Joe Calzache will be a Welsh great when he retires the same as Wilde and Welsh? <ale>

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posted Jul 30, 2007

A welshman takes a lot of persuading I'm afraid.A lot of what makes a legend is keeping his feet firmly on the ground.Calzaghe is an approachable fella and is down to earth outside the ring(except when he goes into "macho mode"when he puts his boxing head on.)

A Welsh great?I would have to say yes.A world great?I think he falls a bit short to be honest.Greatness is all about timing,who's around at the same time.Calzaghe was/is unlucky to be around when the s/middleweights just arent around.Whether he would have beaten Benn/Collins a prime Eubank? we'll never know.I don't think he would have done too well against the likes of Monzon or any of the 80's greats to be honest.

I guess a Welsh great will have to do,although this is usually judged by the size of their funeral!!!!!My old man went to J.Wildes and says that Cardiff came to a standstill and that every Welshman was drunk for a week!A sad end for such a brilliant boxer.

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