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Andrew Flintoff was stripped of the vice-captaincy and dropped for the match against Canada while five other players were fined after a serious breach of team discipline.

Flintoff, having partaken in a drinking session, was said to have got into difficulties in the water after falling off a pedalo after deciding to go for a late-night escapade following England's defeat to New Zealand on Friday.

And five players - Ian Bell, Liam Plunkett, Jon Lewis, Paul Nixon and James Anderson - were seen drinking until the small hours in a nightclub after the defeat.

What do you think of their antics - less than 36 hours before they played a crucial match against Canada?

Were England management right to sack Flintoff and drop him for the game while fine the others. Did the punishments fit the crime?

Former England captain Nasser Hussain said Flintoff had been warned on a number of occasions and left the England management with no choice and he applauded their strong stance.

While Ian Botham claimed there had been an over-reaction to the story.

Mike Atherton was left unimpressed with the players' late-nate escapades.

He said in his Sunday Telegraph column: "The activities of the players calls into question their professionalism, their pride and their common sense."

Do you agree with him or do you think the media are making more of this than the story warrants?

Let us know your views.

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comment by Ceefax (U7452614)

posted Mar 29, 2007

Thank you for those kind words Albondiga

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posted Mar 29, 2007

TONY KAY

My pleasure, good to talk to you. So until the next time. If you really want to wind me up say something adverse about SF Barnes.

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posted Mar 29, 2007

Albondiga, I enjoyed reading this stimulating discussion. You are very knowledgeable and make rational arguments.

I saw Botham numerous times. Botham and Imran were capable of winning matches on their own. But, based on what my father told me about Sobers and what I read and what I have seen on videos, he must be simply the greatest player ever. His greatness was not based on statistics. He played a great innings when his team needed him the most. He bowled fast medium, slow medium, and left-arm spin too. Took stunning catches. His sheer presence on the field was entertaining enough. All this in teams that had Weeks, Walcott, Worrell, Hunte, Kanhai, Butcher, Nurse, Fredericks, Hall, Gilchrist, Griffith, Gibbs, and many more great names...but, he was THE man.

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posted Mar 30, 2007

TonyKay

He was , quite simply, a magnificent cricketer. He was at his best as a batsman and fast bowler. At the end of his career he had the distinction of bowling out more opposition test batsman for nought than any other opening bowler in history - I'm not sure if that record stands today. He was also very loose limbed and graceful as well as being honourable.
I don't know if he would have played for WI if he had simply been a SLA n 11 but he would have been a certainty as a fast bowler and n 11 or simply a batsman who didn't bowl.
Proctor may have rivalled him if he had been given the opportunity but we will never know.

AND HE DID IT ALL WITH A SMILE ON HIS FACE.

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posted Mar 30, 2007

Speaking Civilised

My apologies the last posting was intended for you primarily although I thought TonyKay should be included.

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posted Mar 31, 2007

Albondiga, your comments show how well informed you are. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

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comment by Ceefax (U7452614)

posted Mar 31, 2007

what do you think about match fixing in cricket and do you think it can be stamped out. I think it could be if the players refuse to be bribed they get well paid these days they shouldn't need to take bungs to sway a match

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posted Mar 31, 2007

Walk into Australia vs Bangladesh chat. Plain silly there.

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posted Apr 1, 2007

Tony Kay

Unfortunately bribery is a way of life and every man has his price. But if the players took the attitude that the match fixers couldn't afford them then things would be better. What happens when players/families are threatened in order to get a player "onside" I just do not know.

I do know that although in the limemight cricket is only one of many sports that is subject to interference;

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posted Apr 1, 2007

Albondiga, please join us in the WI vs SL chat.

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