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Great Britain's big ask

by Matt Slater (U1647490) 28 February 2007
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I have no idea what I’m doing this weekend or even what I’m having for my tea this evening, but I am absolutely put-my-mortgage-on-it certain that the two biggest sports stories in this country over the next five and a half years will be how much the 2012 Olympics will cost and how many medals we’re going to win.

I intend to leave the budget shenanigans to my more numerate colleagues - I’m going to stick to the simpler sum of how we find the 50 or so medals we need to meet the British Olympic Association’s target of finishing fourth in the medal table.

And it was with that in mind that I went to Trafalgar Square on Tuesday to witness the launch of Sporting Giants, the latest wheeze from Britain’s sports science community to help us towards our 2012 medals goal.

I say Britain’s sports science community but in truth it seems we had a bit of a skills gap there and have just raided the Australian Institute of Sport (AIS) for its best and brightest.

Set up by UK Sport, which distributes Lottery and public money to our elite sportsmen and women, and their partners at the English Institute of Sport, the Sporting Giants initiative is Olympic X Factor for tall people.

If you are between 16 and 25, sporty and are a female of at least 5ft 11in or a male of at least 6ft 3in, then you can apply for testing to see if you have what it takes to make Team GB’s handball, rowing or volleyball teams in 2012.

I know this kind of built-in sizism and model-based match-making goes against the grain of our Corinthian, sport for all, “love the little guy” ideals, but this is elite sport we’re talking about and nobody is imposing a fairground-style restriction on shorter people reaching the top through their own hard work and talent.

And as scheme organiser Chelsea Warr told me, “you don’t find many short rowers and you can’t coach people taller”.

The thinking behind the public appeal - and the other related initiatives UK Sport has launched - is that while the received wisdom states it takes 10,000 hours of training over 10 years to reach the top of your chosen speciality, short cuts are possible.

Basically you get the right people playing the right sport and then you throw the best training, nutrition, medical advice and whatever else is needed these days that our money can buy at them.

Those people can be playing another sport, preferably to a high but not quite high enough level, or just wandering through central London on a wet February morning.

Five and a half years later we have medal-winners in sports you’ve never even seen let alone played and the 2012 Games have witnessed a new sporting superpower take the stage, us.

Simple really. But then if it is that simple, why isn’t everybody else doing it?

That’s the problem. They are.

The massively state-sponsored programmes of the old Soviet Bloc countries wrote the textbooks for systematic talent identification.

The Australians, chastened by their terrible showing at the 1976 Olympics in Montreal, cottoned on, skipped the chapters on doping and climbed the rankings.

Peter Shakespear, who rowed for Australia during the 1970s before moving into coaching, has been working for British Rowing for the last five years.

He cut his “talent ID” teeth as part of the AIS’s “Talent Search Program”. This scheme involved going into schools to look for young Aussies with the right stuff for rowing – muscled specimens with broad shoulders, long levers and big lungs.

One of his discoveries was Megan Still, who had been a runner until Shakespear and his team handed her an oar. A few years later, in 1996, she had a gold medal in the coxless pair to her name.

“Montreal was a huge wake-up call for us,” Shakespear told me. “We had got complacent and sport had moved on. The old attitudes and approaches just weren’t good enough any more.

“It’s funny. A lot of the new thinking came from the East Germans. We all know they were cheating now but it sometimes forgotten just how much they got right too.”

Having won only one silver and four bronzes in 1976, the Aussies took home three golds, six silvers and five bronzes from Seoul in 1988. Four years later, they finished 10th in the medal table.

By 1996, Great Britain’s Olympic Waterloo, Australia was seventh in the table. And in the two Games since then, the Australians have finished fourth. Not bad for a nation with a third of the population of Great Britain, which has finished 10th in the table the last two Games.

But it’s not just the Aussies that have used “East German” techniques. The Japanese climbed from 15th in the medal table in Sydney to 5th in Athens four years later by gently steering their sporty types into the disciplines that would suit them best.

The Koreans pulled off much the same trick in the build-up to the Games they hosted in 1988. And it was their example that was most often cited on Tuesday.

British Rowing, if it was being honest, probably isn’t expecting to find too many “sporting giants” capable of levering their way into a boat with medal potential in time for London.

It is one of Team GB’s success stories and is already operating its own fairly systematic talent grab. A few of those they have “rescued” from other sports were present in Trafalgar Square and I can confirm that they were all very tall and broad-shouldered. Anybody joining the programme now from scratch will have their work cut out if they’re thinking about a podium place in London.

But handball and volleyball have real sporting “Popstars” potential.

Quite frankly, we’re fairly rubbish at both at present. The main reason for this, unlike other sports I could mention, is that we don’t really play them.

The Koreans were in much the same situation as we are now in their pre-Games period. As hosts, they too had an “access all events” pass. Problem was they didn’t really have a handball or hockey team.

But showing the determination and self-belief that is probably the main reason the country has dragged itself up from the ruins of civil war in the 1950s to being the world’s 11 largest economy now, they pulled it off. They won a gold and silver in the handball and a silver in the hockey.

Can we do something similar? Maybe. Olympic sport is a moving target so whatever we try we’re going to have to do it well and with real conviction.

I went to the Sporting Giants launch with thoughts of Olympic clowns like Eric the Eel and Eddie the Eagle in my head.

But having spoken to the likes of Shakespear, Warr and numerous strapping examples of perfect sporting geometry, I left Trafalgar Square feeling a lot more optimistic, positive and, well, Australian.

It’s a tall order but I’m backing Britain.

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posted Feb 28, 2007

The England Volleyball Association who aren't even consulted or mentioned in most of the reports in the media at least recognize that most of the GB squad for 2012 will come from existing players.
See http://www.volleyballengland.org/News.php?articleId=511
I would still like to see BBC / Sky Sports interviewing people who are relevant to the initiative - maybe UK Sport have someone like George Bulman in mind to coach the elite squad they come up with - surely someone should have been appointed already. I still would be interested to know how they think they can fund it. Where will they train? Who will they play against? You can do attack / defence drills in a sportshall till the cows come home and work on physical aspects (improving agility, mobility, endurance, vertical jump etc.) but without challenging games you aren't going to be prepared to play against the best in 2012.
Also why set a height of 6'3" as the minimum - if you are 6ft and have a vertical jump of over 1m I would have thought a good volleyball coach would be very interested, particularly if you are agile in back court play or can set effectively.

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posted Mar 1, 2007

Hello all, thanks for your comments. A few responses from me.

FearlessScottishMatt, you're right to point out rowing's success and also the common sense behind this scheme. Sadly, we don't get credited for nine golds when the eight wins (one for the cox too). They only count as one medal in the table. So rowing has contributed 11 medals in the last four Games, six of them golds. The last two Games, however, have brought seven medals, three golds. British Rowing is predicting more of the same in Beijing and London...3 or 4 medals. So we're going to have to find those extra medals somewhere else.

Milk, I have a feeling you too may be right about all this taking longer than five and a half years. And UK Sport's talent ID expert Chelsea Warr admitted as much when she told me that even if handball and volleyball don't meet their 2012 targets the process will have had a wonderful impact on their "sporting pipelines". I completely agree with her, even if I don't like the management speak. One thing some people keep forgetting in all the pre-Games wrangling over costs and infrastructure is that perhaps the greatest legacy of the London Games will be a human one. A generation enthused by sport.

That brings me on to Embers' point about why are we spending time/money on sports we don't play. We're doing it because we can. As hosts we have the chance to field entrants in every event, providing they are competitive. I share your reservations about whether it is possible to become competitive in sports we have no tradition in but the sports scientists/administrators think it is possible (and can point to examples of where it has worked). We certainly have the population and wealth to make a decent fist of things in every event...what has been lacking before know was the motivation, organisation and will, quite frankly. Hosting a Games hopefully fixes all of those.

You also raise a good point about athletics. The interesting thing there, however, is not talent ID, it's talent conversion. A UK Sport person told me that there is no shortage of raw talent in the sport (and our results at junior level over the last decade would seem to bear that out), it is getting that talent to blossum at senior level that is proving difficult. Somebody else I spoke to recently laid the blame for this squarely on our athletes being spoiled by too much Lottery funding too early. Any other suggestions?????

PrestonH, you have similar concerns too Embers, although you focus on volleyball. I think you are probably right. International volleyball looks very competitive to me and I think a medal is a very remote possibility. But, as I said before, if we get the next few years right we have every chance of a good showing. To answer some of your other questions about how they're actually planning to do this/pay for this, here is a story a colleague of mine wrote last year that talks about the behind the scenes changes the sport has made (namely forming a GB team from the individual national bodies) and the money it has been allocated (quite a lot).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/olympics_2012/6151100.stm

As for why volleyball didn't get much of a mention in the media, I can only answer for myself. Sir Steve Redgrave's presence at the launch and rowing's relatively high profile to the others ensured that it got plenty of column inches. Of the other two I chose to focus on handball for two simple reasons. One, volleyball isn't so new and unusual to us. Most British sports fans have either played it at school or on holiday, or just seen it on TV. Handball, on the other hand, is a mystery to us. And two, the volleyball representatives were talking to other people, while the handball people were available and very happy to chat. Don't worry, we'll get around to speaking to volleyball plenty over the next few years.

Joe Bloggs, I don't think there are exemptions for being a tad too short on this scheme, but as I said in the original article this is only one talent ID scheme of many UK Sport and the various national governing bodies for the sports themselves are running. Nobody is telling anybody that doesn't fit the "Sporting Giants" profile that they can't make the team through their own best efforts and undeniable talent. This is just one example of a very systematic and targetted "talent grab".

James 7270, hopefully I've answered some of your questions already, although you are spot on about the need for our newer teams to be competitive before the Olympics. Handball and volleyball, in fact, will have their progress reviewed in 2009.

And finally you, Jiggery Pokery. Sorry to have offended your sensibilities with my abuse of a verb. All I will say in my defence is that "big ask" is fairly widely used these days in a sporting context (blame the Aussies) and I did use it here in the context of Sporting Giants being a public appeal for tall people.....geddit? You're right. Rubbish pun. Won't do it again.


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comment by mabell2 (U4533180)

posted Mar 1, 2007

PrestonH, George Bulman coached me at school over thirty years ago. It's good to see that he is still going strong! Sad, though, that even if I were young and good enough, I would be too small to be considered for this scheme (5ft 11).

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comment by stwl (U4284084)

posted Mar 1, 2007

To deter allegations of sizism - how about a talent grab for short people? Most disciplines with weight categories favour short people, at the lower end of the scale. Plus, from my own experience and observation, tall people tend to do better in school sports, and therefore are more likely to develop their sporting prowess anyway.

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posted Mar 16, 2007

I believe its not just a question of size although being invovled in volleyball you need massive and agile players to compete at the top , I can go on but to focus on the point I am trying to express here is that in the UK we have to work on the attitude to sport , the desire to succeed and to daily train the body to be able to compete its all about attitude from teh begining

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posted Mar 22, 2007

I personally feel that the London Olympics will bring a huge change for sport in the UK and this will mean that we will be able to compete at a high level in all sports. For this sporting giants, especially in Volleyball, will be a massive benefit for the current programme. Whether the talent can be transformed into an international standard we will have to see. Over the last years there has been a increase in volleyball in the country, the extra height will make a massive difference, especially when you see the size of some international teams, for example Russia that we are likely to be competing against in 5 years or so.
I completely agree with powermontanareddog, if the sporting giants come into the sports with an attitude of 100% commitment and the will to train daily and also the want to succeed, i would not complain that it is too late...its the beginning of what looks like a promising future for the sport...

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comment by penry42 (U7910773)

posted Mar 26, 2007

Seeing as we are chucking billions at the games why shouldn't we seek out potential winners using whatever means necessary? everyone else is doing it so why aren't we. It's about time we stopped treading softly softly, not wanting to upset the 'social balance of our nation' and just got on with it-if you don't like it-tough! We're talking about seeking out potential sporting excellence-nothing more!

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posted Jul 28, 2007

once again its me kc..and i really want someone to see my potential if someone told me im not right for a certain sport or sport in general and should move on..i would be extremely hurt but would hve to accept it..but first someone needs to see me..i dunno watch me play volleyball and give me some constructive criticism i would like to do very well in volleyball or any sport someone could see me doing ..i just need a chance!! Someone help im from Birmingham my parents dont know im doing this..but i would love to tell them someone said i could go very far and whatnot..and if im told im rubbish then i'll just deal with it!sadface

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posted Jul 30, 2007

Im very annyoed at the whole 5'11 height thing..because im 16 nearly 17 smiley..and
i think im good at volleyball and given a chance i could be really good and im
not just saying that..i actually really enjoy the sport and would say im
competitive..ive never competed or anything but if someone gave me the
oppurtunity i could blossom into a champ..i just need the oppurtunity and the
whole you have to be 5'11 has knocked me before i've even started..but i like
the whole you can be re-directed into a sport you could be good in..but first i
need someone to spot me ARGHHHHHH...has any one got any ideas for what i could
do....???Baring in mind im asian so yes my parents are strict i hate to add to
the whole stereotypical views of people but for me and the subject im discussing
they are very TYPICAL!..AND BARING IN MIND THAT IM IN MY 6 WEEKS
HOLIDAYS...COULD SOMEONE TELL ME OR SUGGEST TO ME WHAT I COULD DO..CUZ I RELI DO
WANT A CAREER IN SPORT I JUST NEED THAT ONE CHANCE !could someone suggest things for me to do..im starting college soon aswell.so if i was gona do anything this would be the best time

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