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What is it with Manchester United this season?

First, they become many neutrals’ guilty pleasure because of their “anyone but Chelsea” credentials and eye-pleasing football.

Then they give Henrik Larsson a long overdue opportunity to show everybody what Celtic supporters have known for years.

Even Cristiano Ronaldo is less of a pantomime baddie these days - from offensive to charm offensive in three easy stepovers.

And if Paul Scholes could be persuaded to turn out for England again, well, I might actually reconsider my opinion on “Rio’s World Cup Wind-Ups”.

But it is their fans’ protest at Fulham on Saturday that has done most to make me see “Moan U” in a new light, because here is an issue which all fans can get “united” behind.

In case you’ve missed the story, a few Reds, tired of having to pay “category A” prices wherever they go, have got together to ask their comrades not to spend any money inside Craven Cottage. No pies, teas, biscuits, programmes or bets.

They’re being charged £45 for their tickets on Saturday. Up from £32 last season and £25 the year before. Manchester City fans, however, will be charged just £25 for their visit to the Cottage.

Pete Boyle, who also comes up with many of the club’s terrace songs, is the brains behind the boycott and he assured me he “wasn’t picking on Fulham”, he even said he “really rated Chris Coleman”, which is more than many Fulham fans are saying at the moment.

Saturday’s protest, he said, has come about because United fans are sick of being financially penalised for the loyalty and size of their travelling (some, admittedly, further than others) support.

As he put it, “the team we support might be wealthy but it doesn’t mean all Manchester United fans are”.

He then gave me a series of examples where they have been “fleeced” by other clubs who know United will always take up their full allocation of away tickets. Blackburn charged United fans £36 to get into Ewood Park, yet local rivals Bolton paid only £15.

Boyle, to be fair to him, said Liverpool fans were also routinely “ripped off” but even they paid £6 less than United did at Middlesbrough this season.

So far, Fulham’s response to the planned protest has been to stick to the official line and point to the small print – the last recourse of every salesman put on the spot by a crowd of unhappy customers.

Apparently, Manchester United is a “Grade A+” game – alongside Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool – and the away fans are paying no more than the home fans for comparable seats in other parts of the ground.

“Grade A+”? Is that like Spinal Tap’s amps going up to 11? Sorry, Pete, but if you will support an A+ club, you’re just going to have pay more for the same ticket as fans of A, B or C clubs do at every single away game you go to.

Now there is a tiny part of me that wants to agree with that. You know, the knee-jerk Leveller inside all of us that wants to punish the rich and the successful.

Then I remember that most of the United fans I have met aren’t on Rio Ferdinand’s wages and they aren’t members of the Glazer family.

They are, in fact, ordinary Joes with ordinary salaries. And the ones that actually “go away” with the club, are more ordinary than the “prawn sandwich brigade” at the Old Trafford Bowl. They even sing decent songs (so well done to Pete there too).

So why should these supporters be repeatedly over-charged? Aren’t fans the very lifeblood of the game? Isn’t the atmosphere created by home AND away fans one of English football’s main selling points?

If the best reason you can think of is that it helps to redistribute money from the richer to the poorer clubs then it is time the Premier League clubs got around the table to reallocate the media rights pie.

Extra policing costs, I hear some cry? A red herring, I’m afraid. It is clearly a factor but there is no consistency from game to game and, as the clubs won’t publish these costs, no transparency.

Of course, it isn’t just United fans that have had their loyalty taken advantage of. The current media focus might well be on Premiership ticket prices (and it is nice to see that some club directors appear to be paying attention) but in recent seasons I have been mugged by Macclesfield, swindled by Swindon and robbed by Rotherham.

In fact, I don’t know a fan that goes to away games that doesn’t have their very own litany of larceny. And that is why the Football Supporters’ Federation is pushing for a universal away ticket at all Premiership games of only £15 for adults and £10 for concessions.

Stoke fan Malcolm Clarke, the FSF’s chair and the man behind the campaign, had a peach of an away-day angst story to tell.

Earlier this month, Potters fans were first asked to pay £30 for their trip to Birmingham City and then, with only eight days’ notice, they were told that the Sunday fixture was being moved forward to 1130 to accommodate television.

Unimpressed with their treatment, only 428 of the expected 2,000 Stoke fans attended. Not that the home fans were any happier. The gate was 6,000 below average.

So I for one will be hoping all Manchester United fans hold the line on Saturday and resist the temptation of a queue-less pie stand at the Cottage.

Like Pete Boyle, I harbour no ill will towards Fulham, but if one club can be shown that away fans are not a piggy bank to be raided once a season then hopefully all clubs will take a more supporter-friendly view on their prices.

As the FSF’s Clarke pointed out, thanks to their newly-signed TV contracts, we could all be let in for nothing for the next three years and Premiership clubs would be no worse off than they are now.

Kind of puts the Chelsea price freeze into perspective, doesn’t it?

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posted Feb 25, 2007

Sure, the fact that Fulham were charging Man U fans £45 per ticket stinks, but how much were the Fulham fans charged to go to Old Trafford! A set ticket price, say £18 for adults and £10 concessions for away fans at premiership games is a very good idea because it makes things fair across the whole country. However until that is introduced, clubs should be able to charge away fans at least the same price that their fans were charged to visit the corresponding ground earlier on in the season.

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posted Feb 25, 2007

If supporters will pay £45, clubs will charge that amount or more, its a simple matter of supply and demand. The only way to get a response is not to pay for the tickets, not boycotting hotdogs and programmes. At the moment the big clubs can fill their grounds whatever they charge; supporters realise that if they don't pay, someone else will. Only when grounds are less than full will there be a change. Forget the idea of a standard price across the board. No-one is going to pay the same price to watch the likes of Blackburn when they can watch Manchester United etc

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posted Feb 25, 2007

The other A Grade teams which have been charged £45 such as arsenal, but we have not moaned which is why i agree with the nickname'moan utd'just forget it everybody knows football is just about profit and money is taking over!!!

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posted Feb 25, 2007

Several people have posted to say that having a fixed price of £15 for away fans across the whole country would be fairer, but that's not looking at the whole picture. While it would mean that away fans of all clubs would pay the same, it's unlikely that the clubs would reduce prices for the home fans, and might even put them up to cover the loss in revenue. So why should I as a home fan, subsidise your away ticket?

Whilst I agree that the cost of tickets to some matches is exorbitant, you don't have to pay. Chelsea charged 48 quid for our match at Stamford Bridge this season, so the away turn out was quite small as most of us refused to pay those sort of prices. Clubs can only rip you off if you let them. Supporters of the big clubs aren't getting charged big prices because their clubs are rich, but because they have demonstrated time and time again that they are willing to pay them. Only a proper boycott, like the City fans at Bolton will really hit them in the wallet.

Many of the smaller clubs operate variable ticket pricing to make sure that they get the most people in the ground for every game. Fulham only charged us 20 quid this season, but that was because it was a Monday night Sky game, so if they'd charged us big money we'd have all stayed home and watched it on TV. Watford are making our game a promotion for their fans, so we benefit by only having to pay a tenner as well. Having a fixed low price for away fans for all games would mean that they couldn't afford to discount the less popular games like this, as they wouldn't be able to make up the revenue on the games they could sell out twice over. There'd also be a risk of casual home fans opting to go in the away end as it was cheaper, and trouble breaking out as a result. Whilst it's a noble idea, it's just not workable.

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posted Feb 25, 2007

The guy who mentioned the price to see a gig was right The Venues don't have a one price for all policy, They know that for a world reknowned band like U2 or the Chili Peppers they can name their price and often charge around £50 and still get a sell-out, but if me & my mates want our band to play they'll be hard pushed to expect people to pay a fiver!

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comment by CTBlake (U2896637)

posted Feb 25, 2007

There is only one real answer to all of this-- a set ticket price, for all supporters. If certain clubs want to price themselves out of the market, go ahead. There shouldn't be any differential for home and visitor teams.

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posted Feb 25, 2007

There should be fixed price admission for each division. Maximum £20 for Premier League, £17 for Championship, £15 for League One and £13 for League Two to reflect the differing quality of the football. Clubs would be free to charge what they like but they couldn't charge more than the maximum. Clubs should only be able to charge prices agreed pre-season e.g. When Bury are at Spotland and Rochdale charge the visiting fans £12 then Bury should charge the Rochdale fans £12 at the return fixture. The clubs should then be forced to have a fixed salary cap of £20 million a year for wages so no one can use the old excuse of 60% of Manchester United's turnover is more than 60% of Wigan's and the players will just have to like it or lump it when their ludicrously high wages are cut. Football has ripped off the fans for far too long playing on our loyalty. We need to take a stand.

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posted Mar 10, 2007

we should go on a march, ha. See if we can do any better than the anti-war protestors. (probably)

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posted Nov 19, 2008

LOL this is the most PATHETIC thing I have ever heard.
There are fans out there who would trade an arm and a leg to own a season ticket at United. The season tickets have gone up from £470 to £490. So a £20 rise isn't that bad at all. I went against Stoke last Saturday and my ticket cost me £30 but last season was £28 (not in the clouds in the north stand either). And it was from the United ticket office as I apply because I'm a member. Also I went against QPR and cost me a mear £19 a ticket (Carling Cup). So what are this (MUST) group on about. United are one of the cheapest in the premiership to get tickets and this MUST group are just being pathetic. Of course the prices are going to rise each year for all premiership clubs in general as it costing more for clubs. IT's life!!

Somebody better not tell the (MUST) group that Asda's Smart Price beans have gone from 19p to 22p... God hell will break loose.....

If any of them MUST group member want to pass there season ticket over to me (a proper fan) next season I would snap your hands off for it. And I would have all the Carling Cup, Champs League, FA Cup and away tickets that get offered.... I live and die United and will pay what ever it takes to see them. That what Die hard fans do.

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posted Nov 20, 2008

the whole "MUST" affair is to do with club making all Season Ticket Holders buy "compulsory cup tickets" not the price of there season tickets rising.

The club have this "compulsory cup tickets" ruling on the season tickets and no other club in the land (as far as i'm aware) has one which in MUST's eyes in Unfair trading making someone buy something.

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