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Wilko's Back

Six Nations England
by Saints_Fan_1990 (U7052232) 04 February 2007
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Yes Jonny Wilkinson is back with a vengeance, but he did not impress me the most on Saturday. For years we have known Jonny can get it done in an England shirt. The person that impressed me the most is Harry Ellis. I was never a fan of him and preferred Peter Richards in that position, until the Scotland game. He actually did very well for England(should have been man of the match in my opinion), he made breaks, he passed well and he made good decisions.

I am happy to see that we finally have a worthy replacement to Matt Dawson should Harry Ellis' form continue.

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posted Feb 4, 2007

I did not think wilko should have played due to lack match time since is last injury.

having said that he did play and what a performance you would have thought he had no tme out from injury.

with regards to ellis i have never seen him play so well.

I just hope it wasnt ablip in the pan.

i think the whole team played well yesterday
about the best ive seen for a long time,i hope the team improves next weekend and for the rest of the tornament.

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posted Feb 4, 2007

As a scot I hear all the hype about JW and how he scored all those points but no mention about the 14 other players that played along side him (apart from maybe one or two others)personally I dont rate him at all and to indicate he is back with avengeance and is the bee all and end all for England is just utter nonsense. Yes Scotland could have played much better than they did and england took the advantage. There were unjust decisions but lets be sensible. But I just wonder what the comments would have been if (yes IF) Scotland had beaten them. All I can say is woe betide the comments as they (england) still have to play against the other nations. Scotland have to play better but come on england england englanders there are other nations out there that are better than the performance they played on Saturday!!! Lets judge the performance on a few games and not just on one that happens to be the opening game of the 6 nations. The calcutta cup is just incidental!

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posted Feb 4, 2007

anyone who doesn't rate wilko at all doesn't fully appreciate rugby: 27/42 points after a 3 year layoff says it all (and ps was the calcutta cup incidental last year?)

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posted Feb 5, 2007

Just the kind of response expected. rating an individual does not mean one does not appreciate rugby. rugby is all about tactics, manouvers and team play. If JW is that good put him on the field and forget all the other 14 individuals that make up the team. as i said last time come on judge the TEAM performance, not individuals (oh and yes the calcutta cup was incidental last year)

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posted Feb 5, 2007

Funny... I remember all the Scots a few years ago banging on about how wonderful Gregor Townsend was and how he was the answer to Scotlands prayers.

Compare him to JW.. no contest.

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posted Feb 5, 2007

sad or what!....Gregor who.....? I never rated him either. you just dont get it.... 'teams' either play well or they dont. dont get excited about an individual player as if they are the messiah of all messiah's. Let's just see if your messiah can take them all the way! but dont come crying when england get beat and they will!

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posted Feb 5, 2007

what was the title link for this debate??- How significant is Wilkinson's return? so....thats why everyone here is talking about Wilko! He was incredible at the weekend, especially with all the hype surrounding him. no-one is saying the rest of the team did not play well, as without them he wouldnt have shone how he did. Give the man a bit of credit, even if you are on the receiving end of his master classes..he is a legend in rugby, and in sport generally!...FACT.

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posted Feb 5, 2007

yes lets just look at the article this debate was started with. the writer was not impressed with JW (yes not impressed)but impressed with Harry Ellis. The debate degenerated to just wilko, wilko, wilko. just the point i was trying to make that NO ONE is saying ANYTHING about the rest of the team. I'm all for giving individuals credit since a team is made up of individuals but they should not be singled out as being the bee all and end all. 'receiving end of his master classes'...what codswallop.

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posted Feb 5, 2007

The whole point of these posts is to spark discussion and that usually goes in different directions...and then back to the begining again.
Ellis was excellent and really got momentum going when england needed it.
guyavery makes the right point - that wilko's drop goal was just what was needed at the time.It was superb technical skill during a fast passage of play.
Just as when Parks kept pinning england back with excellent cross field kicks - it gave scotland momentum (which they hadn't shown before ) and kept them attacking the english line for a period which led to the try.Skuduggery in the lineout apart - it was down to one guy doing what he was supposed to do thats all.

You just wish he was called mcwilko.

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posted Feb 5, 2007

wilko - what a guy! (oh and the others weren't too bad)

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