posted Jan 14, 2007

isabre,ferguson did make one mistake ill grant you which he never dared to repeat again.In the european cup final in 99,he attempted to play beckham as a central midfielder,which almost cost him the trophy,however fate decreed that United would win that day,so it almost gets forgotten.There is no question fegie realised from this point,even in his prime(99),beckham was hopelessly out of his depth in the centre of midfield aginst top class players.Anyone who tried to do the same since has also been made to look silly and been forced to recognise the only place he could play was on the wing where his limitations could be covered up.Unfortunately with that clown eriksson in charge,he wa given,ludicrously,free reign with england and what we got from that utter folly was continued and repeated failure at the first point england came up against a country with a football-history(ie brazil,portugal)and with it,humiliating and premature exit.

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posted Jan 15, 2007

I beg to differ on this one southcliffe. Beckham has played well as a central midfielder and was never out of his depth, but was usually called upon to play as such when there was no real back-up for him, or substituting for someone missing there, and without changing the shape of the team around him, thus midfield becoming sort of a mess.
Ferguson fielded Beckham in central midfield in the Barcelona final simply because Scholes and Keane were ineligible to play, while Ryan Giggs was rushed into the game but wasn 't fit enough coming back from injury, let alone he played on the right! Both Yorke and Cole were out-of-sorts that day, as the best part of the side maybe due to the intensity and numbers of games United had had to play up to the final compared to Bayern. Beckham was desperately alone in midfield, since none else performed, but it was from his fine set-pieces that United found their way to winning the trophy along with the killing touch of both Sherringham and Solksjaer.
Ferguson should have retired four years ago, but wanted to go on at the expense of United. He 's said time and again that none is above the team, but he clearly considers himself to be the team.
As for flops during his United career, he 's shown plenty! And in the last few years they 're heaping up. He has failed yet to build a new core for the team, and still relies heavily on Giggs, Scholes and G Neville. If Giggsy misses a crucial game, I 'm afraid United will be a shambles...

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posted Jan 15, 2007

well the facts show otherwise.N-one who understood what beckham was and wasnt taken in by the false spin,considered him to have anywhere near enough all-round ability to be a central midfielder.To be a top class central midfielder,you have to have the skills of a zidane or a gerrard at worst.You have to(preferably)have the ability to kick with both feet(not with only one part of one foot),tackle well(cmon lol),posses acceptable heading ability,have leadership qualities(yea,right lol)not let your ego get the better of you(haha).Limited and one-dimensional players do not great central midfielders make as history has proven before and will again.

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posted Jan 16, 2007

Well, there are no facts showing otherwise. He has all-round ability, he can play very well with his left as well (proof that, eg, the second and third England goals away at the 5-1 rout of Germany were delivered with his left), he has more than acceptable heading ability, he is a top class midfielder and second to none, he has leadership qualities as shown in so many games when he stood against opposition on his own - his performance, eg, against Greece at Old Trafford speaks volume for that! Except, of course, for those who are blind and biased and never got to see a single thing! Enough said!

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posted Jan 16, 2007

you clueless imbecile,i dont seroiusly even think you actually believe the garbage youve just wirtten.If you do then get out of my sport and go and follow a game more suited to your vacancy.Previuosly you made assertions which were worth responding to,this time im just not going to waste my time with sentences such as "he was a midfielder second to none".GET LOST YOU UTTER CLOWN.

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posted Jan 17, 2007

Typical poor response by a typical poor soccer fan! Whose second name component (cliff) clearly reflects his scope of thought and capacity! Another one with non-existent arguments, who easily drops out at the first obstacle trying to make whatever impression by just insulting. Well, it 's not your sport mr southcliffe, you 're just a disgrace to the sport, that is what you are. Now, shove off!

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posted Jan 17, 2007

sorry isabre,nice knowing you but im off to talk with some grown ups now.

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posted Jun 11, 2007

you clueless imbecile,i dont seroiusly even think you actually believe the garbage youve just wirtten.If you do then get out of my sport and go and follow a game more suited to your vacancy.Previuosly you made assertions which were worth responding to,this time im just not going to waste my time with sentences such as "he was a midfielder second to none".GET LOST YOU UTTER CLOWN.

I read some intelligent comments on this board but never from you, you bring this board down to the gutter level.

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posted Jun 11, 2007

im not sure what "level" someone raking up threads from 6 months ago brings it to thats for sure.What kind of person seeks out ancient threads just to make pious,irrlevant,im-so-superior comments,eh?

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posted Jun 12, 2007

isabre,ferguson did make one mistake ill grant you which he never dared to repeat again.In the european cup final in 99,he attempted to play beckham as a central midfielder,which almost cost him the trophy,however fate decreed that United would win that day,so it almost gets forgotten
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How did united win? was it beckham setting up 2 goals in the last minutes. Hopelessly out of his league but still managed to change the game and be part of probably the greatest english team of the last 15 or 20 years and win everything at club level - pricless

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