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Grow up Barry

Rangers
by PortyBelly (U2488240) 02 January 2007
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Not a PLG fan, but Barry must know that no player is bigger than the club. Part of being a Gers captain is the responsibility NOT to whine to the media and to follow the manager's instructions on the pitch. I would HATE to see BF go, but he is a better player than a captain. Grow up Barry and act like a man. You love Rangers, and dislike PLG or not, you must be enough of a man and a leader to follow the party line, for as long as PLG is manager - which might not be much longer. Coisty wa dropped often enough by Souness, and he was as much a Rangers man as you are. He didn't spit the dummy - he gritted his teeth and eventually things went his way. Stay at Ibrox - if you can act more like a true captain, then the next manager will need you.

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posted Jan 3, 2007

As a player,PLG won 17 French caps and shortly before he joined Rangers ran a marathon in the African desert. To do these things- footballing ability aside- you need determination,motivation,spirit,a positive mental and physical attitude and focus (amongst other things); why then can he not transfer these qualities, which are missing in shedloads, to the team he puts on the park?
Apart from a few occasions this year,the team`s performances have been pedestrian, dull,lacklustre and soulless with the result that any team playing RFC must fancy their chances, home or away!
The blame for this would appear to lie at BF`S door and his `negative influence` in the dressing room; if taking Barry out of the equation means that the team will play at a consistently higher level,win more games, see us challenging for trophies, I will hold my hands up and say PLG was 100% correct but I find it difficult to believe that this is the only/main reason for the tean`s dismal fom and inconsistency.
I believe BF has not dealt well with the fallout from his demise but I think PLG has to seriously question himself because it looks to me that more than BF is not carrying out/misreading his instructions proved by a lack of`esprit de corps` and leadership on the park.
PLG now has to prove that he can manage,motivate nad organise a team low on confidence,morale and spirit; if he feels he can do it, let`s give him a chance but I feel things may get worse before they get better!

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posted Jan 3, 2007

People could do with reading this article:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rangers/6187525.stm

Quite interesting but whether you agree with what PLG says or not (and personally I think he's spot on & correct), BF doesn't show himself to be the sharpest tool in the box.

PLG makes what seems to be a general observation about captains in Scotland (maybe could take it to mean UK). Ferguson takes it all to heart & think PLG is having a pop at him.

If that's what started the feud here, then BF surely takes some of the blame.

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posted Jan 4, 2007

To DavyPH, I understand that you have contacts but a recent source has confirmed to me that Kris Boyd is going no where. PLG would have not played him on Saturday when he is just recently back from injury and he is our top goal scorer, why would he drop him like a drop of a hat?

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posted Jan 4, 2007

Some very smart words from BH-TrueBlue and toshblue.

I am sick to the back teeth of all the ferguson fans on here with their absolutely ludicrious suggestions that his passion is enough to override his boss.

A lot of points I want to make here.

1. Le Geun is not ruining rangers - the spending of the Dick Advocaat era did that.

2. There was dressing room disharmony during McLeish's era - this is not new to the PLG regime it's a hangover from the last manager and needs sorting out.

3. PLG only starts three of his own signings, Sionko, Clement and Svensson - all of which are putting in decent shifts now. Sebo and Papac were bought as panics because there was no money to go for anyone else. So really, the players that are letting us down are the ones who were there already, particularly Barry Ferguson and Allan Hutton. And Prso's legs have gone.

4. Who says Steven Pressley was ever an option to us? Maybe he wanted nothing to do with Rangers.

5.Le Geun has to be backed over the next six months at the very least. His CV, not Barry Ferguson's, shows that he is capable of leading Rangers to better things.
PLG took on a massive task, has not yet been given much help by his chairman, and deserves far more respect than he is getting at the moment.

Rangers' problems run far deeper than the Frechman in charge, let's all realise that.

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posted Jan 4, 2007

It might seem a strange coincidence but I never felt that Barry Ferguson supported Bertie Vogts when he captained Scotoland during his tenure. Bertie set about "blooding" many of the players now rated as experienced players for Walter Smith, but during his time I didnt feel BF helped in any great capacity to help explain this necessary experimenting with so many fringe players. So it came as no surprise to me to learn of Paul Le Guens opinions leading up to his decision to axe BF.

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posted Jan 4, 2007

Barry should be on his way out of Rangers right after PLG. In the long term i think PLG would have got us playing decent football given time and a little cash. So some of his players didnt set the scene alight stright away. We bought young guys on the way up. It seems our short sighted fans have got used to paying over the odds transfers and wages for over the hill players on the way out who are nothing more than a depreciating asset. PLG went for youth and talent and who knows given time these players could prove themselves.
I seem to recall a few doubters over the ability of McCoist in his first season. Barry was asked to go on the pitch and play a certain way, like it or not that is his job he cant choose to not to follw tactics, as captain its his job to try and make them work on the pitch. If he was indeed undermining the boss then he has to go. What new manager will come here after his actions in getting PLG removed. If things dont go well for the next manager will Barry just spit the dummy again?. Would the great Bill Struth have stood for BF's actions?. I think not. Barry has made this club a laughing stock. I hate to see the mob in the east of Glasgow rubbing there hands with glee over this situation. These are the sort of actions they are famous for not Rangers. In conclusion i want to wish PLG all the best and appologise on behalf of Rangers. I know (as i am sure most of you do) that our club is better than this.

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posted Jan 5, 2007

I don't understand some people, very quick to judge someone when they don't know the full facts. Obviously some people don't know a thing about scottish football, Foregien managers may be good in their own counteries, but they have to understand that every country's football league has different standards, different logic and different play styles. Scottish football is great in scotland, but compaired to english standards there poor. Yes Barry Ferguson played in the english premership but went back to his roots to Scotland, that's the problem right there, there's no heart left. Forgien players are great players don't get me wrong but Scottish players play from the heart cause its where they are from and were they grew up. Same as English players and Northern Irish players. I don't doubt that Barry ferguson stepped out of line and voiced his thoughts and fears to much but you have to understand that he's playing with his whole heart and sole not just his feet. Frustration can get the better of you.I think it's about time we seen more of that in Scottish football. I myself am not scottish i'm Northern Irish but i no roots and appreciate the quality of football better when players play with feeling, nerves and heart, it's what drives them, i think what drives a lot of english premership players is the money, them boys are on some weekly wage, and fair play to them i'm not knocking them, but football has lost it's edge it's all about the money and it's not right.

Bring heart back into the game, i can garantee more consistancy and more quaility in teams.

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posted Jan 5, 2007

I agree totally with Billysoccer, I think Barry's made his bed now so all that's left for him is to lie in it. The only thing left to do now is consentrate on the games ahead and put the whole Paul Lgwen to bed. Rangers as a team should pick themselves up dust themslves off and move on. Hopefully whoever they choose will help boost the moral of the team and get them playing as a team finally. I hope in a way that it is Ally and Walter, Ally was a passionate player and i hope hes got what it takes to be a coach, but to be honest he probably won't know himself until he gets stuck in. At least he knows the scotland way of coaching.

Good luck Ally and Walter, do your best. Get the team back to its best (please) if anyone can do it they can.

Role on next season, so we can start a fresh.

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posted Jan 17, 2007

I am disappointed in Mr Murray for getting rid of the wrong man ferguson should have left, PLG could have taking us far but now we will never know where would Man Utd be just now if Alex Ferguson was sent packing after the start he had at old trafford

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posted Jan 17, 2007

Tend to agree with most of what 'cheerySteph24' has to say but, not knowing the real behind-the-scenes story, I am unwilling to blame either Ferguson or PLG. I always take what the media takes with a huge pinch of salt, given that they are primarily in the business of selling newspapers and boosting ratings. As with most events of this nature in football, the true picture of what really happens is something the fan in the street is never privvy to and the facts never disclosed. Let's just wish Walter Smith and PLG the best of luck and get over it. What is done is done and continually raking over the situation is of no benefit to Rangers or any of the parties involved. Only time will tell if removing Le Guen and appointing Smith was a success or not. I will venture to say that, with the greatest respect to Paul Le Guen, I do not think foreign managers are the way to go for any team in the UK, club or country, at this point in time. British players are a breed apart from what off-shore coaches/managers are used to. Only Mourinho and Wegner can be considered a success and only because of the unique circumstances of their tenures. No other foreign-managed club in Britain comes close to them.

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