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Saturday 28th April 2001, 1900 BST

Animated encounter with Terry Gilliam
by Ollie Betts
Gilliam and Kermode on the big screen
Interlopers in the Internet Cafe eavesdrop on Gilliam's Desert Island Flicks
Are you an animator?

I was asked the question maybe a dozen times, on what was Animated Encounters' Industry Day - a gathering where enthusiasts and delegates could mix to gain an insight into the industry in Britain, with seminars, masterclasses and training sessions.


Truth be told, I'm not an animator. My interests lie in comics and images in juxtaposition - like storyboards - on the printed page rather than on the screen
.

Terry Gilliam
A relaxed Terry Gilliam before the interview
By 6pm, those that remained were here for just one thing: Ex-Python animator Terry Gilliam's Desert Island Flicks with film writer and critic Mark Kermode.

As I'm a behind-the-scenes guest, mixing with the great and good, I get to meet the man himself.

I interrupted his dinner (salad and potatoes by the look of it) but he graciously allowed me to take some snaps.

As far as the evening was concerned, I was interested to hear what Gilliam had to say about the production of animation and the films that inspired him and how this may relate to comics.

What also intrigued me about the event was the fact that the Watershed was running an audio-visual link its digital cafe, so that I was able to experience the whole sold-out interview live on a big screen. This had two benefits, a free gin and tonic and a large back corduroy sofa to stretch out on.

Others in the digital cafe made the most of the big screen as the audience filed into the auditorium. One group spotted a friend and called him on his mobile so he could give the cafe posse a wave!


Gilliam talks to the audience
Terry Gilliam: I am a punter, like you
Now for Gilliam.

He and Mark Kerm
ode (clutching a pint of lager) enter to the strains of the Desert Island Discs theme.

And so the journey into animation's impact on Terry Gilliam begins.

The top film director, who has worked with the likes of Brad and Bruce, as he calls them, is clearly down to earth:

"I am a punter, like you," he tells the crowd, as he reveals his diverse selection of films - many of which have clearly influenced both his Python animation for TV and big-budget live action movies.

Gilliam gets a kick out of the movies, not the movie-makers, although he obviously admires and respects them: "When I was a kid," he tells us, "I wasn't interested in Walt Disney the man, I just loved his films."

Gilliam's Top Ten
Pinocchio (Hamilton Luske and Ben Sharpsteen, US, 1940)
Red Hot Riding Hood (Tex Avery, US, 1943)
The Mascot
(Wladyslaw Starewicz, France 1934)
Out of the Inkwell (Dave Fleischer, US, 1938)
Death Breath (Stan van der Beek, US, 1964)
Les Jeux des Anges (Walerian Borowczyk, France, 1964)
Dimensions of Dialogue
(Jan Svankmajer, Czechoslovakia, 1982)
Street of Crocodiles (The Quay Brothers, UK, 1986)
Knickknack (John Lasseter, US, 1989)
South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut (Trey Parker, US, 1999)
 

Just glancing at his top ten, you can see that Gilliam is by no means a purist - he loves old and new, traditional and modern and "sweet and dark" as he puts it.

One of his choices is the ultra-slick
Knickknack made by John Lasseter for Pixar in 1989. This epitomises Gilliam's theory that the job of the animator is to: "Inject humanity into the bits and bytes of pixels."


If Knickknack is sweet, Svankmajer's Dimensions of Dialogue is most definitely dark. Gilliam calls it "dark and subversive" and cites this - and the fact that it is "rude and offensive" - as some of the reasons why he likes it.

What emerges throughout the evening is that Gilliam is interested in the "juxtapositions" which exist in life.

How, by cutting up images and sticking them together, you can produce interesting narrative - which, for me, is what comics do too
.

A Q&A rounds off the evening and Gilliam is asked whether he, a clear fan of the genre, will be returning to animation.

To the audience's dismay, he says no. Gilliam says he loves making movies with "real people", and as someone who is so engaging and animated, you can see why.

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