When
we arrive Trude is talking about the circumstances in which
she left Vienna when she was only eight years of age. She
answers questions from Caro who has come to West Yorkshire
from Kurdistan.
Adam
Strickson, who is leading the meeting, explains what is happening:
"We are at KRAFT (Kirklees Refugees and Friends Together)
and we are also involving people from the Holocaust Survivors
Friendship Association because for a number of years Kirklees
has been remembering Holocaust Memorial Day on January 27th.
This year we've brought two groups together - young people
from Kurdistan and Albania and also older people. Some are
'Kindertransport' who came on the train as eight or nine-year-olds
from Hitler's Germany. As well as those are camp survivors
and 'second generation' whose parents or grandparents suffered
as part of the Holocaust or the pogroms.
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| This
Bradford building served as a hostel for children brought
to West Yorkshire by the Kindertransport. |
"We've
been talking and playing games and making some writing from
our words about our experiences, particularly with the theme
of second lives, of starting life again in England and trying
to cross the generations. A lot of the people in the room
today came as children to England and had to learn English,
to learn a new language and be part of being here."
Kashan
and Caro read an extract from I Came From/I Came To, some
of the words they will present at Kirklees' Civic Act of Commemoration
for Holocaust Memorial Day at Huddersfield Town Hall. They
hand us a written copy of the readings they have prepared
for the evening - "I came from...I came from my childhood.
Often, I try to get back into that room."
Trude
tells her story: "I originally came from Vienna in Austria
and I came when I was eight on the Kindertransport which was
an organisation that got sponsorships from families in England
for the children whose fathers and parents were taken away,
and who would foster or look after these children.
"England
wasn't at war then and it was only going to be a temporary
thing at the time, but unfortunately it lasted a long time
and I was fostered. I stayed with this family until I got
married and at the beginning obviously it was a very, very
unhappy time - very traumatic and I remember I couldn't stop
crying. I cried for a whole week. I couldn't speak a word
of English and they couldn't speak a word of German and I
remember saying, 'I want a Taschentuch and nobody knew what
a Taschentuch was. A Taschentuch is a handkerchief and, with
crying, the more I needed a Taschentuch - and in those days
there were no paper handkerchiefs and the toilet paper was
hard and I remember using the bottom of my skirt.
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| German
refugee girls in a hostel in 1942 (from the Continental
Britons exhibition at Dewsbury Town Hall) |
"It
was very traumatic but children are very resilient and eventually
you accepted the fact that you wouldn't see your parents again.
It's very hard talking about it. You get very emotional and
for years not only myself but the others who came over as
children, we couldn't talk about it. It's only recently that
we've managed to talk about it because people haven't experienced
it, little ones not seeing their parents anymore. It was a
very traumatic time. But we managed, we overcame it."
Despite
being very upset Trude believes it is important to talk about
her experiences to the young people in the room: "Yes,
I know they are also going through a very traumatic time leaving
their friends and everything they knew. And the language,
that is very hard as well."
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| Life
in a Kurdistan refugee camp |
Pam
Bye, director and founder of KRAFT, explains why her organisation
is involved: "Our children are very important to us and
people's backgrounds and lives are very important so that's
why community history is important. We try to help our children
keep alive their past and remember where they came from, and
so we're very proud
to work with Adam and this is the third Holocaust Memorial
Day we've taken part in."
Bah'ra
has been in Huddersfield for three years. She says: "I
came from Kurdistan in Halaja. My Dad was here three years
before I came and I lived without a Dad in Kurdistan and it
was really hard and people were calling, 'You're Dad has left
you. He doesn't care about you anymore.' He got a British
document and we came after three years and then it was really
hard leaving my family and friends, leaving them and coming
here. All the time I blamed my Dad for coming here, for bringing
us here, but we got used to England. It was really nice and
people were welcoming but we thought that we'd never learn
English because we were just thinking about Kurdistan and
what people are doing there and what people are doing here
now. But we've got used to living in England and now it's
all right. "
| I
thought everything is laid out in a gold but everything
in England was black and drab. Back home, our houses were
painted outside so the dark Yorkshire stone was a shock.
I thought it's like a prison here, a prison in the fog,
so wet and I couldn't speak a word of English. Once we
started going to work in the mill, our workmates were
really friendly. It was a very good feeling. We were very
happy to be here. It was...It was...the kindness of strangers. |
| From
I Came From/I Came To |
She
now feels West Yorkshire is her home: "It's really good
here and if I could go back to Kurdistan I don't think I would
want to stay there, I would want to stay here. I think I'd
forget the things that happened in Kurdistan but there's lots
of people who would never forget their families and friends
because of the tragedy that went on in Halaja."
Bah'ra
says she can relate to the experiences of the older people
in the room: "They left their country 60 years ago and,
compared to mine, it's really, really different but in another
way it's quite the same. They've left their family, never
seen them again. Now I'm with my parents, my sisters. My family
are alive, I could go back anyday I want but it's not the
same for them. What happened to them, you can never turn the
clock back. It's permanent."
The
keynote speaker at this year's Kirklees Holocaust Memorial
Commemoration is John Chillag, a Hungarian Jew who in 1944
at the age of 17 was rounded up for slave labour before being
taken to Auschwitz and Buchenwald concentration camps. John
wasn't at the meeting we went along to but Linda starts to
tell us her story: "I lost my grandparents in the Holocaust
at Auschwitz. I'll let my husband continue."
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| Camp
survivor John Chillag will give the keynote speech at
Huddersfield Town Hall on Holocaust Memorial Day. |
"I'm
Robin, Linda's husband and my late father-in-law fortunately
got out of Germany just before the Holocaust took place, with
two brothers - one went to Australia, two to England. Unfortunately
his parents, my wife's grandparents, didn't get out and they
perished in Auschwitz. My late father-in-law, who I was very
close to, left us with quite a lot of archive material, books,
records, artefacts and photographs so that we were able to
carry on and tell the story of what happened and we, along
with a lot of other people, like to speak in schools and institutions
about these racist activities where people have no respect
for other people. We try to preach tolerance and respect for
other people's beliefs, religions, whatever...So long as people
are law-abiding and have respect for each other. That's our
message."
But
sixty years after the names of the Nazi concentration camps
- Auschwitz, Dachau, Belsen, Buchanwald among others - became
synonymous with genocide, does this message still need retelling?
Linda knows that it does: "We've spoken in a few schools
and it is unbelievable that people do not know anything at
all about the Holocaust. It has got to be spoken about to
get the message across that this should never happen again."
Robin
adds: "It is still happening. It's still happening in
the world today so it makes you wonder, have we learned the
message? People will say we should move on, forget what happened
60 or 70 years ago but if we do that there will be no-one
to tell the story of what did happen so our message is that
we have got to keep doing that. Maybe people will eventually
learn and have respect. Thank you."
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The
Kirklees Act of Commemoration for Holocaust Memorial
Day takes place at Huddersfield Town Hall on Wednesday
26th January at 7.15pm
Continental Britons, an exhibition which tells the remarkable
story of Jewish refugees who fled from Nazi persecution
in German-speaking countries, runs at Dewsbury Museum
from January 15th to June 2nd.
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