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Best young player of the World Cup?

LONDON - Cristiano Ronaldo - by all accounts the best player on the pitch in Wednesday's semi-final - was apparently leading in the vote on Fifa's website to find the Young Player of the Tournament.

He appears to have been overtaken by Luis Valencia, the Villarreal player from Ecuador, who England beat in the second round.

Something funny going on?

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Claire S, blog editor.

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  • 1.
  • At 12:41 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • mat wrote:

Ronaldo doesn't deserve this vote. The best player should be rated on his technical skills, as well as his attitude on the pitch.
He should have been booked at least 2 times against France for diving! Would you see Ronaldhino do that?

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  • 2.
  • At 12:42 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Viesulis wrote:

Christiano Ronaldo might be technical but he is a digrace as a player - diving, simulating, living in stars and crying...Portugal definitely could be announced as most anti-footbal team of the WC. Such teams spoil the game.

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  • 3.
  • At 12:47 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Rusty wrote:

"Something funny going on?"

Well, I don't know about "funny", but there is www.ihateronaldo.com which is campaigning for people to vote for Valencia instead (in the sidebar on the left). It's a little over the top, in my opinion.

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  • 4.
  • At 12:55 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • hawkwind wrote:

Ronaldo is a despicable wee tyke and a disgrace to the game. And that's not just from an England perspective either - witness the booing he received from the French last night.

The tragedy is that he's incredibly talented and, when not throwing himself to the ground, delicious to watch. It's his own fault though that his reputation is now preceding him, and that he's increasingly known not for silky skills but for being a con artist.

Young Player of the Tournament? Do me a favour. All those who love the beautiful game and the spirit in which it should be played should vote for anyone else to win - and if that means some middleweight Ecuadorian, so be it.

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  • 5.
  • At 01:05 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Bazza` wrote:

It's a pretty typical English reaction to be honest.

Aside from being a huge waste of time, the vote has been rigged by people who couldn't pick Luis Valencia out if he was surrounded by 10 albinos.

Everyone who voted against him must be really proud, does this make up for England not being able to beat Portugal in the World Cup? I don't think so. . . . and people wonder why other countries have such a stereo-typical view of English football fans.

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  • 6.
  • At 01:07 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Nutkin wrote:

I don't think it's not rigged, it's just a lot of people don't think that Ronaldo is the best young player!

And that most of these people happen to be English and received an email letting them know how they can vote, is prefectly acceptable and democratic.

I was one of those who received an email letting me know of my entitlement to vote, and I passed the message on.

As they say, cheats never prosper!

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  • 7.
  • At 01:09 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • pootles wrote:

I received an email urging me and others to vote for Valencia as best young player. After briefly flirting with the idea of voting for Theo (like 4000 others) I voted for Valencia and forwarded on the email.

I see it worked a treat.

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  • 8.
  • At 01:11 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Gav wrote:

Ha ha ha ha! :-D

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  • 9.
  • At 01:12 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Jorge wrote:

I am just dissapointed with English fans. We all have to be objective. Rooney deserved to be sent off, while Ronaldo did what he wanted to do. Were u crying when Crouch was diving? Are u take the same silly approach that Italians did 4 years ago, when a Japanese playing in Italy scored a goal agains Italy? Come on you have to be more mature. Media 'pundits' should be more careful about comments hurting people.

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  • 10.
  • At 01:13 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • daniel wrote:

there isnt a rig going on, but there is one certain website (dno if im allowed to state it) which says vote for valencia or any1 else apart from ronaldo. tbf ronaldo has been the boss of portugal last few games, hes taken the game to the opposition defence more then any other portugal player and is lookin more and more like he is getting the final product he needs. in the last game he gained about 2% of his credibility back, it could have been alot more if it wasnt for his dives but once again, like the last semi final, players havent been waving for a card to be shown when a foul is committed so it seems were going back in the rite direction after temporarily going backwards in football. No one can doubt Ronaldo as had the biggest impact on the world cup as a young player, maybe even out of all the players, but, as a manchester united supporter,if we sell him, i wont be losing any sleep.

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  • 11.
  • At 01:13 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Jorge wrote:

I am just dissapointed with English fans. We all have to be objective. Rooney deserved to be sent off, while Ronaldo did what he wanted to do. Were u crying when Crouch was diving? Are u take the same silly approach that Italians did 4 years ago, when a Japanese playing in Italy scored a goal agains Italy? Come on you have to be more mature. Media 'pundits' should be more careful about comments hurting people.

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  • 12.
  • At 01:14 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Martin wrote:

It will all be in vain. The public get to vote their top three players and the technical study group (TSG) get to put forward three players to give a final 6 which we have today.
Ronaldo
Valencia
Podolski
Messi
Fabregas
Barnetta

The TSG then decide on the winner from these 6 which is announced tomorrow.

and yes, I have registered by vote for Valencia.

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  • 13.
  • At 01:14 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Nutkin wrote:

I don't think it's not rigged, it's just a lot of people don't think that Ronaldo is the best young player!

And that most of these people happen to be English and received an email letting them know how they can vote, is prefectly acceptable and democratic.

I was one of those who received an email letting me know of my entitlement to vote, and I passed the message on.

As they say, cheats never prosper!

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  • 14.
  • At 01:14 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Jorge wrote:

I am just dissapointed with English fans. We all have to be objective. Rooney deserved to be sent off, while Ronaldo did what he wanted to do. Were u crying when Crouch was diving? Are u taken the same silly approach that Italians did 4 years ago, when a Japanese playing in Italy scored a goal agains Italy? Come on you have to be more mature. Media 'pundits' should be more careful about comments hurting people.

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  • 15.
  • At 01:14 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • James Nartrick wrote:

Very strange about Ronaldo losing the best Young Player - Luis Valencia has received around 150,000 extra votes this week without kicking a ball

James

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  • 16.
  • At 01:15 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Alex wrote:

I've just looked at the rules, and the fan vote is to get three names on the shortlist, not the actual award - the final decision is made by one of FIFA's 'Technical Committees'. So everyone's been wasting their time, and the genius on the BBC website who's just put the story up didn't do very much research...

Never mind, I'm sure it made everyone feel better!

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  • 17.
  • At 01:18 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Jorge wrote:

It seems many fans are not mature enough. It hurts that England did not get into the next round, but we should blame our own team and coach! Do you remember how many times Joe Cole has been diving??!!

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  • 18.
  • At 01:18 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • edp wrote:

Rigged? Well Theo Walcot managed to get over 4000 votes and he didn't even play!

To me, when Ronaldo doesn't do the play acting stuff he is becoming a very good player. If he stops all the rubbish he could be a great player. Fortunatley the decision is made by a FIFA technical panel who will look at all aspects of play.

Like a Zidane, a more dignifed player you'll be hard pushed to see.

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  • 19.
  • At 01:18 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Richard Yarwood wrote:

http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/bypa/eligible.html
Go and vote for valencia! Ronaldo was leading by 50,000 votes until an email went round, now he's losing by 50,000! the power of the internet!

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  • 20.
  • At 01:22 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Tero wrote:

Brittish fans "deserve" to see players like Savage, Heskey or Earnshaw..Ronaldo, do yourself a favor and play to crowds that appreciate your skills. This hating is getting out of hand. Bitter fans are a sad sight.

Real World Calling Ron

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  • 21.
  • At 01:23 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Iain wrote:

I really enjoy watching Ronaldo play, and I don't think he dives half as much as people say. However, he definetely looks for free kicks by dribbling round someone at the last second so they take him out, and he does go down very easily.

It's a shame realyl because he could be so much better than he is now. If he had the determination to get past defenders and stay on his feet he'd be alot more dangerous for club and country.

As for his actions in the England match against Rooney. It's fair to say by the head butt (or whatever it was) before the game and the wink after Rooney got sent off that it was part of their game plan. Disgraceful.

Still, lets look towards the final and hope that the Italians beat the most boreing team (excluding England of course!) in the competition.

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  • 22.
  • At 01:23 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Paul Heyman wrote:

Cristiano Ronaldo has been the best young player of the world cup so far and he deserves to win the award. Vote for Cristiano Ronaldo!

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  • 23.
  • At 01:30 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • JoeBob wrote:

It does not matter who comes first or second in the public vote, as that merely decides 3 players who make it onto the shortlist from where the FIFA technical committee choose their best young player.

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  • 24.
  • At 01:31 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Chris wrote:

Ronaldo has made himself the most hated figure in world football so it should be no surprise there are a large number of people who would hate to see him get such an accolade and voting for the guy who was in 2nd place seems the most logical way to achieve this small justice.

If there was any true justice Ronaldo would receive a ban that far exceeds any ban Rooney is likely to receive because he is the cheat and world football would be a better place without cheats like him.

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  • 25.
  • At 01:31 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Gareth wrote:

Ronaldo was not responsible for Rooney's sending off (that award must go to Mr Rooney himself) but he has been the best and most consistent young player at this World Cup.

The bitterness over England's failure is both boring and ridiculous. Get over it and move on.

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  • 26.
  • At 01:32 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Andy wrote:

Ronaldo is a cheat. It's a simple as that. And I'm a Scotland fan. Ronaldo - you can sue me if you like, but until you clean up your act and try to win matches with your undoubted talents, instead of cheating, you do not deserve any awards.

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  • 27.
  • At 01:32 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Ibrahim Faizal wrote:

There is simply nothing funny. Its the inability of the English to accept defeat that is the cause of it.Ronaldo has got nothing to do with the sending of Rooney. Even if he has got involved in it its Rooney's stupidity that got him sent off. Ronaldo did not cheat to get Rooney the red card.

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  • 28.
  • At 01:34 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Bill Ronaldo wrote:

The gutter press in England are just so stupid.
Rooney is a thug and got what he deserved.
Ronaldo is a brilliant footballer and a great actor. That wink was meant to be noticed. It was meant to wind up the gutter press and it succeeded.
Well done lad.

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  • 29.
  • At 01:35 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Alex Beecroft wrote:

The best player on the pitch? Are you joking?

To see Zidane rage against the dying of the light with beautiful economy of movement, and superiority of mind was infinitely better than seeing the callow Ronaldo do some pointless step overs and then fall over.

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  • 30.
  • At 01:36 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Glenn wrote:

I live in Scotland and I can confirm that there is a massive campaign here to vote for Ronaldo. He has been lauded by some sections of the country as a national hero for his part in Rooney's sending off.

It seems that the Young Player award has become a battle between Scotland and England as to how many people can skew the results. I hope that fifa come up with a more sensible way of deciding these awards in future.

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  • 31.
  • At 01:37 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Aehso wrote:

England declares Cristiano Ronaldo national emergency
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/07/06/national_emergency/

Pathetic, magnanimous as ever.

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  • 32.
  • At 01:37 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Daniel wrote:

Ronaldo could still win because technically the winner of the vote does not get the award. The top three are then joined by three others from a technical study group and then the TSG chooses their player based on certain criteria

i think the hate campaign is not allowing people to see this fact and with the TSG commitee also judging the players on fair play ronaldo wouln't have won anyway

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  • 33.
  • At 01:38 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • jamesy wrote:

Ronaldo didn't lose you the world cup Sven & the players did so get over it.

Don't really like Ronaldo as a person but there is no doubt about his footballing ability & he has been one of the best young players at this world cup.

PS with regards to diving he's no worse than Joe Cole !

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  • 34.
  • At 01:42 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Shingo wrote:

The impetious nature of youth has caught up with both Ronaldo and Rooney, remember Beckhams disgrace against Argentina? I hope they think back to how different the outcome to their games would have been if they just concentrated on what they where being paid for instead of trying to gaining unfair advantageby any other means other than sticking the ball in the net.

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  • 35.
  • At 01:45 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Lightning Hart wrote:

There have been far more disgraceful acts of playacting at the world cup besides Ronaldo's minor histrionics.

Why rob by far the best young player of the tournament the accolade he deserves because of a nation that is so petulent and bitter, desperately clinging to excuses as to why our feeble team failed to make an impact yet again?

Another example of typical overexaggerating Britain.

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  • 36.
  • At 01:46 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Neil wrote:

On Christiano Ronaldo. Let's get it in perspective. a)It's just a game b) It was just a wink c)Why are we scapegoating him for diving when it's not as if the English players never dive...like Mr Steven Gerrard in pre world cup friendly and less obviously during the world cup itself...d) get over it. Rooney got himself sent off, nobody else e)If Portugal are so awful what does that say about England? f)England played better once Rooney went off anyhow.

It just seems like any excuse not to look at our own team and manager.

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  • 37.
  • At 01:47 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Mark Haddrill wrote:

In my opinion he is just getting what he deserves. One of the criteria that FIFA is basing this award on is fair play - something that Ronaldo has shown none of during this tournament.

The sooner that FIFA, UEFA and the FA start reviewing footage of matches and giving cheating players like Ronaldo lengthy bans, the sooner he will quite rightly be forced out of the game.

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  • 38.
  • At 01:50 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • hex_enduction_hour wrote:

All the England fans who are hijacking the vote to make sure Ronaldo doesn't win are just sad and bitter. I find it really pathetic that they have to find a scapegoat for their exit from a competition they blatantly did not deserve to progress further in.

Ronaldo may dive, but he's not the only one, and in my opinion he has been the best young player in the tournament, apart from maybe Podolski.

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  • 39.
  • At 01:50 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Bea wrote:

I do not realy like the way Ronaldo plays either. He plays in a very selfish way and lacks team spirit, he dives he fouls and he cries after a lost match. Just like most of the football players I have seen during this WC. Technically he is brilliant, no doubt about it.

But .... does a human being really deserves a hate campaign caused by bitterness.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2006/5153870.stm

Was going towards the ref and complain an action that deserves HATE? Anger, yes, disappointment, Yes - but HATE??? I personally find it worse stamping another player`s private parts than complaining about this foul.
Some people really tend to forget what actually caused Ronaldo´s reaction.

Nothing, really nothing that the young man did is worth HATE. Please remember, at the end of the day it is only a game where 22 men are chasing a ball....

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  • 40.
  • At 01:51 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Rashid wrote:

What Ronaldo did may not have been right but still the officiation of the league matches in the UK seem to favour the home boys mainly in Manunited.If the officiation changes and the cautions and penalties are respected,the indisciplined Rooneys who even lack sportsmanship,will be tamed.

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  • 41.
  • At 01:52 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Nick Payne wrote:

Yup got an email about it myself at home yesterday, it had been forwarded around a fair bit.

"wink" job done!

touche

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  • 42.
  • At 01:53 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • john mc lellan wrote:

I Don,t Believe Any One Could Even Consider Nominating Ronaldo As Best Young Player Of This World Cup,He Has Tried To Gain Advantages On A Consistant Level That Really Takes Diving To A New Level!!!,He Does,nt Need To Pull Stunts Like That,As He Has Skill In Abundance,So Why Do Great Players Do This, Hell Will Freeze Over Before We Get An Answer To This Inigma.

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  • 43.
  • At 01:54 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • James wrote:

Rational though the comments here are, it's certain that the majority of people voting against Ronaldo after receiving viral emails are just sore-loser England fans who, as usual, need someone to blame rather than admit to home-grown deficiencies. And they're only showing themselves up. If they learned to read, they would see that they can vote for whoever they like because the winner will be decided by FIFA's "Technical Skills Group".

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  • 44.
  • At 01:56 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Abdul Akande wrote:

This is such a disgrace on the English fans! Why can't you get over it and accept the fact that a better team beat you and move on like all other countries have. Whatever happens, we all know who the true young player of the 2006 World Cup really is.

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  • 45.
  • At 01:56 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Jayjay wrote:

Incase no one has come across it, there is a global email doing the rounds asking everyone to vote for Ecuador's Valencia as fans young player of the tournament instead of Ronaldo who was leading the vote count.

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  • 46.
  • At 01:57 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • gaz wrote:

The fact is the vote online is only a fans vote the actual winner will be decided byt he FIFA technical Group of 14 people. Headed by Germany's assistant manager at the 1990 world cup. No matter how many votes they get, the choice will not be there's. No matter how much england fans turn Ronaldo into some sort of scapegoat for what was an overall poor showing from the England team over the whole tournament.

Fact is Ronaldo has been the best young player at the tournament, warts and all.. no young player has been better.

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  • 47.
  • At 01:57 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Johnny wrote:

Never even heard of this boy from Ecuador. Why are the likes of Torres, Podloski, Ramos, Fabregas, Ribery etc etc not being mentioned (along with Ronaldo because he is class)?

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  • 48.
  • At 02:02 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • stefano wrote:

i might be a litte biased as a german, but my young player of the tournament is surely philipp lahm. it's always a pleasure to watch him play.

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  • 49.
  • At 02:02 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • James wrote:

Rational though the comments here are, it seems certainly that the campaign to vote against Ronaldo is mostly attracting sore-loser England fans who - as usual - need someone to blame rather than admit to home-grown deficiencies. And they're only showing themselves up. If they did less whinging and more reading they would see that they can vote for whoever they like. The winner will be decided by FIFA's "Technical Study Group" not the web vote.

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  • 50.
  • At 02:03 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Mark wrote:

In my opinion he is just getting what he deserves. One of the criteria that FIFA is basing this award on is fair play - something that Ronaldo has shown none of during this tournament.

The sooner that FIFA, UEFA and the FA start reviewing footage of matches and giving cheating players like Ronaldo lengthy bans, the sooner he will quite rightly be forced out of the game.

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  • 51.
  • At 02:03 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Royston Vasey wrote:

Hawkwind - part of the crowd will be have been made up of the Engerland fans who made the trip to Munich expecting to see England play - so a large part of the crowd would have been not-so "neutral" fans booing the guy who knocked England out of the World Cup.

As for "something funny" going on - it's more petty and bitter than it is funny. Sven asks the press not to pick on Rooney (you know, that mild-mannered kid who wouldn't say boo to a goose) so a witch hunt is made for the guy that was winding him up throughout the game. Sounds familiar - the same "news" papers were the ones that printed the home contact details of a referee who dared to disallow a perfectly executed foul as Sol Campbell scored a header against.... ummmmm.... oh yeah - Portugal.

Also funny to see Giddy label Ronaldo in with Maradona - think that further shows the pettyness of the hatred against Ronaldo.

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  • 52.
  • At 02:08 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Peter Peyton wrote:

I assume everyone knows by now that the original boost in Ronaldo's came from Sottish fans, read their chat forums.

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  • 53.
  • At 02:09 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • jock the coalman wrote:

dry yer eyes. yer oot!!!!!!

for god's sake, it wasnt ronaldo who stamped on rooney the last time i looked!

learn to lose with dignity (like we have, plenty practice) instead of CONSTANTLY finding someone else to blame other than yourselves.

YOU'RE NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

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  • 54.
  • At 02:11 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • RUFAI OLUYEMI wrote:

i know why some people are not just sincere,Ronaldo's attitude is still far better than ROONEY's,who has EARNED more cards than Ronaldo, they are talents no doubt, but @this world cup, one scored a penalty in the Group stages, helped his side to the semis by converting his own penalties(which is something to reckon with)at leaest if Gerrard and lampard did the same, England would have been at the semis, he scored and so was the one that took his side to the semis, had the man of the match perfomance at the semis(sentiments apart)even though,thuram got it by FIFA standards, but i thought Ronaldo had a splendid world cup!!!who knows, if Figo had scored from HIS freekick that OLD barthez couldnt punchout, portugal could have gone all the way...
On his attitude, it shows he is truly young, and small, and maybe so playful...but THE GOLDEN BOY OF ENGLAND'S( WAYNE RUDENEY)'S attitude! IS WORSE!AH AH!

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  • 55.
  • At 02:12 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Lee Williams wrote:

If I was gifted with a minute amount of Ronaldos' skill i'd feel blessed!!! Why is it that quite few of the good players feel it necessary to dive to win a free kick??

You have all that natural ability and all you do is make yourself look like a sap when the slightest breeze from your opponents jersey knocks you down to the ground like you've been hit by a Hulk Hogan Python!!!!!

Come on Valencia!!!

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  • 56.
  • At 02:13 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Ajala wrote:

Its amazing that the one country, who more than any other, owed its sole world Cup triumph to refereeing errors should be the one to hold forth and lecture the rest of us on the evils of cheating and refereeing incompetence.

Can anybody imagine the reaction if England lost a world cup final to Argentina by a goal that did not cross the line, that never was - the sheer bedlam and hysteria that would explode around our heads. In the 1966 Quarter final between Argentina and England, Argentina had to play with 10 men because the Referee sent off the Argentine captain Rattin (in a match where English fouls doubled Argentine ones) because he ' did not like the look on his face' and because Rattin was allegedly insulting a referee who later on admitted to not understanding a word of Spanish.

Imagine the English reaction if Beckham had been sent off for abusing, in English, a referee who later admitted to not speaking or understanding a word of it.

The English are the spoilt, petulant and inadequate children of international football. Not once in 40 years of mediocrity have they ever admitted to loosing a tournament game because they played a better side, not once have they ever had the grace to congratulate their conquerors, there is always an excuse, always a whinge, always a hate figure to divert attention from their lack of any real ability to play good football. English football is a joke. The English now hate the Portuguese not because of their so called antics, but because the Iberians who they would rather patronise have cleaned the floor with them three times now in the last 6 years, Euro 2000, Euro 2004 and now this world cup - what a record. Portugal have produced Figo, a former world player of the year, respected throughout the game who has led his country, a small modest south European nation to the last 4 of at least 3 competitions, England have produced David Beckham, better known for his hair not playing style, who has led his country, one of the richest in the world, from one underachievement to the other.

Portugal have Ronaldo, a a fine winger with pace, trickery and above all courage, England have Rooney, a one trick pony (all he ever does is try and shoot from outside the box or barge his way through it) overrated and over hyped. Ronaldo will achieve great things in Spain, Rooney will spend the rest of his days bullying the likes of Charlton and Bolton and striving for red cards in major tournaments when confronted with good defenders (who can pocket mediocre and overrated strikers), so all the post match talk will not be about how average he really is but how '’his temperament let the great genius down'.

Then again he is also very likely to end up in prison. Lets face it he does look like a convict.

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  • 57.
  • At 02:17 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • WOMBAT wrote:

Good news that there is an e-mail doing the rounds asking people to vote for Valencia. Yesterday Ronaldo had 26% of the vote and Val 24%. Today good news! Val leads 36% / 25% . Brilliant the power of e-mail.

Cheap holiday to Portugal anyone?

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  • 58.
  • At 02:18 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Malcolm wrote:

Goes to show how poor losers England are. They need a hate figure to cover their own embarrassment - Alan Shearer take note!

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  • 59.
  • At 02:19 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Bea wrote:

I do not realy like the way Ronaldo plays either. He plays in a very selfish way and lacks team spirit, he dives he fouls and he cries after a lost match. Just like most of the football players I have seen during this WC. Technically he is brilliant, no doubt about it.

But .... does a human being really deserves a hate campaign caused by bitterness.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2006/5153870.stm

Was going towards the ref and complain an action that deserves HATE? Anger, yes, disappointment, Yes - but HATE??? I personally find it worse stamping another player`s private parts than complaining about this foul.
Some people really tend to forget what actually caused Ronaldo´s reaction.

Nothing, really nothing that the young man did is worth HATE. Please remember, at the end of the day it is only a game where 22 men are chasing a ball....

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  • 60.
  • At 02:19 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • john mc lellan wrote:

I Don,t Believe Any One Could Even Consider Nominating Ronaldo As Best Young Player Of This World Cup,He Has Tried To Gain Advantages On A Consistant Level That Really Takes Diving To A New Level!!!,He Does,nt Need To Pull Stunts Like That,As He Has Skill In Abundance,So Why Do Great Players Do This, Hell Will Freeze Over Before We Get An Answer To This Inigma.

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  • 61.
  • At 02:35 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Giddy wrote:

I think you'll find English fans can take losing - we've had enough practice. What we loathe and detest is players who behave dishonourably like Ronald 'O' did.

At the end of the day, we recognise England went out because of the team's numerous shortcomings. We despise the fact that a spotty little oik with talent but without honour wants to rub it in.

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  • 62.
  • At 02:37 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Royston Vasey wrote:

Post #1 - I've not actually seen Ronaldinho do anything of worth at this tournament!

Post #2 - Ronaldo is by no means the worst offender. Look at the beloved Thierry Henry and the "simulation" that led to the free kick that got France's goal against Spain. Disgraceful - only joy about watching France now is seeing him bottle it on the big stage in the same way he did in the Champions League final. Look at Italy in their first game with the guy that rolled around looking like he'd been shot, then was fine to come back on and score a minute later.

Post #5 - and why should a "middleweight Ecuadorian" get the award simply because Ronaldo is now hated by England fans? Surely the likes of Torres would be a better pick?

And don't forget England are not immune to diving - or do we still think Robinson's stint at rolling about on the floor was simply a "clever" attempt to kill some time when it looked like England's leaky defence could throw away a goal?

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  • 63.
  • At 02:38 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Mark wrote:

I'm English and to be honest i'm not bothered about looking for excuses for England going out - they simply didn't perform to their capabilities and always ran the risk of going out.

What i am bothered about it the smugness Ronaldo has in knowing he can get away unpunished with diving in EVERY match that he plays. And then moaning, crying and stamping his foot when he doesn't get his own way.

I don't know who Man Utd are playing in pre season friendlies, but i do hope that one of their opposition shows Ronaldo that cheats don't always prosper.

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  • 64.
  • At 02:44 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Andy Spurs wrote:

Its a pity FIFA don't have a cheat of the tournament competition. Or diver of the tournament. The Golden Cormorant could be their prize.

Mind, Ronaldo would not necessarily win either of those with such famous names as Ballack and Henri in the frame.

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  • 65.
  • At 02:45 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Gee wrote:

Regardless of whether it's rigged or not, the vote is clearly a joke: Scott Carson and Theo Walcott seem to have amassed votes despite not having touched a ball during the World Cup!

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  • 66.
  • At 02:48 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Philipp Trempenau (Berlin, Germany) wrote:

@England

This is starting to get really embarassing. Remember SGE first reaction after the game ? "DON'T KILL ROONEY !" There was nothing like "KILL C. RONALDO!"

When we lost against Italy, there was no word of diving, bad refereeing, the whole pressure, the fact that Frings got suspended or WHATEVER. We simply admitted that Italy was the better team that night and, yes, maybe had a little more luck.

For crying out loud ! Start acting like men, go to the training pitch for the next 2 years and then come back. Right now, you're acting like 5-year-old girls who can't deal with a defeat. Sometimes I think you will never get past this whole "rulers-of-the-world" thing. Everything has has to be done according to your wishes. And if it's not, it's always someone else's fault. Grow up, otherwise I seriously doubt you will get that second star on your chest in the next 50 years........Ok, I'm calm now :- )

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  • 67.
  • At 02:50 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Calvin Williams wrote:

Ronaldo might dive, but at least he does not stamp, push other players or kick the ball away. I would also like to respond to the comment about him crying as if this is a critisism why not critise most of the England team for crying.

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  • 68.
  • At 02:52 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Darren wrote:

Maybe Ronaldo should be awarded the 'Brown Boot' for unfair play. What's the point in some amazing ball control if you just dive, and I mean dive badly, at the end. Some of the referering can close to making this world cup a farce, I hope some of the awards decisions don't.

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  • 69.
  • At 02:52 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • James wrote:

If someone annoys so many English football fans, he must be doing something right. Go on yourself, Ronaldo.

Golden generation, ma arse.

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  • 70.
  • At 02:55 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Lloyd wrote:

Pathetic - All you people saying its the english looking 4 a reason as to why we lost...Not at all, as much as England may dive, we do it in reflex mode..Ronaldos diving is Simulated, If you understand what this word means you'll know the difference...Pointless step overs, then falls over...I saw more talent in Messi in 20 mins of him playing then I saw of Ronaldo...Did he score? At all? No. England are a great team, a brave team, and they went out of the WC once again, but proudly, and honestly...Not the same feeling when Portugal went out last night was it? Good luck to both teams in the final, be lucky your not facing England.

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  • 71.
  • At 02:59 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Derek Tyler wrote:

All very sad - England had enough chances to score against portugal, and I really do think that, penalty shoot-out aside, England were the better team - despite the foolish formation they were made to play with. Why doesn't the Captain have some input, and change things when necessary ?? Anyway, I thought Ribery was the most exciting player by far this year. Now, everyone, get real, and vote sensibly if you must vote at all !(English and disappointed, yet again !!).

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  • 72.
  • At 02:59 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Mark wrote:

I'm sick of the ignorant English, and small minded Scots to be honest.

English players dive and cheat just the same as everyother team in the world. Remember Ian Wright on MOtD telling us it was alright for Gerrard to dive as everyother team would do it. If an English player got his meat balls stood on, on purpose, you cannot tell me that the English players wouldn't have acted like Ronaldo. Don't even try to deny it.

Scotland, is becoming more embarrassing as each day passes. We're turning into a bitter twisted little nation with the only thing going for it, is being happy when we lose.

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  • 73.
  • At 03:00 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Tim wrote:

Ronaldo is technically very good, but he is a diver, a cheat, and quite frankly a cry baby. Against Engalnd & France he was disgraceful with his diving and manipulating the referee. I hope very much that Valencia wins this award.

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  • 74.
  • At 03:02 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Freddy (London) wrote:

I don't think he deserves any recognition after his diving, cheating tactics which were similarly displayed by other members of his team. Still, I bet all will be forgiven when he returns to Manchester and he starts diving for them!

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We ran a campaign on www.FHM.com to get our 2.1million users to vote for Ecuador's Luis Valencia and we're pleased to see how well it worked!

And before people start getting carried away, it's only a bit of fun... Unlike diving.

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We ran a campaign on www.FHM.com to get our 2.1million users to vote for Ecuador's Luis Valencia and we're pleased to see how well it worked!

And before people start getting carried away, it's only a bit of fun... Unlike diving.

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  • 77.
  • At 03:05 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Tom Thom wrote:

Living in Scotland all i'v heard for weeks is whinging jocks.Big hairy idiots thumping little kids for supporting England and not Scotland.
Scotland were nay in it cos ya did nay qualifie! AGAIN

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  • 78.
  • At 03:06 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Sonny wrote:

The English public and press are such sore losers and hypocrites. Although I agree that diving is all too prevalent in todays game (by all teams including England), I think that Ronaldo was clearly the best young player in the tournament. What is worst diving or stamping on a fellow players groin. The Ronaldo bashing saves England having to admit that their team played woefully the whole tournament (and were lucky not to meet a top team earlier) and that Rooney's temper got them knocked out.

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  • 79.
  • At 03:06 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Vinny wrote:

Ronaldo is an amzing player, but what he did last night against france diving at every oppertunity was a disgrace, i think that rooney deserved to be send off, because he has trop on somebody bollocks on purpose and then swore at the ref, 2 yellow card offences, in my opinion the young player shud be messi, he played amazing when he cam on and turned defences inside out, i got the e-mail about vting fot that ecuador player, which is pathetic, we all know ronaldo is a great player, but diving makes a great player rubbish

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  • 80.
  • At 03:09 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • David wrote:

Ronaldo is one of the greatest players of the 2006 World Cup.

English fans need to stop directing their frustration at yet another failure in a big tournament at Ronaldo and direct it at the real culpurits, Ericsson - for his tactical imptness, Lampard for his terrible performances in every game, Gerrard for his low performance levels, Beckham and to a small extent Rooney.

I also felt a hint of anti-Portuguese sentiment in the commentary and analysis by the BBC's so-called experts!! Now now sore losers

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  • 81.
  • At 03:10 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Royden wrote:

Hmm...so the top 3 players go through. Looks like people need to start voting to push him down to 4th!

You only had to watch the game against France to see he hasn't learnt anything this world cup. Personally i'm fed up of seeing players going down holding there face after a nudge on the arm so if this means he doesn't win the award he has himself to blame. Also, it seems he was only a clear leader because of the Scottish vote anyway!

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  • 82.
  • At 03:11 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • danchar wrote:

What concerns me is that FIFA have allowed him to be on the list in the first place. What kind of message does this send ot to all young footballers out there. That simulation, diving, cheating what ever you want to call it is an acceptable part of the game. They obviously see that footage of his antics and turn a blind eye to it. But then I guess we knew that anyway after Luis Figo escaped with a yellow card during the dutch encounter for blantantly headbutting an opponent. Good work FIFA, at least they talk a good game vene if they don't watch the real thing.

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  • 83.
  • At 03:11 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Rugy wrote:

I can't believe so many self proclaimed real football fans are urging people to vote for Valencia over Ronaldo. What has Valencia done? He was good against Poland and Cost Rica, but I'm not even sure he was on the pitch against Germany, and he did nothing against England. How on earth can he be allowed to win the award? For all of Ronaldo's antics (and let's face it, he's no worse than Henry, Van Bommel, Pauleta, Ballack and Crouch in the cheating stakes) he has been the outstanding player for a team that reached the semi finals. I looked down the list and couldn't see any other players listed that had done half as much as he has this tournament. Podolski perhaps? It is an insult to the award, to football fans, and to Valencia himself if Valencia wins the award.

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I'm curious as to why Conaldo has got so many votes anyway. Fabregas has had a significantly greater impact on the tournament even though Spain went out a round earlier.

Ronaldo hasn't scored, he's not set anything up and he can barely lift his head when doing 58 stepovers in order to see a team mate so he can pass.

It's all well and good that he can do all these tricks but if all they're doing is giving the opposition time to get back and defend then they're not much use are they?

As he so ably demonstrated with that magnificent swan dive against the French last night, he is indeed a little cheating so and so.

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  • 85.
  • At 03:14 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Basketballreader wrote:

I'm English and live in Scotland and am fed up generally with the national stereotyping that goes on. When I lived in England we would always support Scotland / Wales / Ireland in whatever tournament they were playing in unless they were playing us and I always assumed they would do the same... then I moved here and discovered that there is a crazy amount of hatred for the English which people justify by saying that we bring it on ourselves by our attitude... now I know there are a lot of rubbish folk that support England but really it goes too far.
Re the email, yup I received it. I didn't watch all of the England game (pub too hot) so wasn't aware of the Wayne Rooney affair but I know that I don't like Ronaldo's attitude or the way he plays the game, so I voted negatively against him. This is not because I am bitter about losing to Portugal or because I have an English complex (otherwise I would have voted for Rooney) it is purely because I think that someone who acts like he does doesn't deserve to win an award for it.
And for the record I have heard lots of English people saying that we didn't win because we weren't good enough so we don't all blame everybody else.

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  • 86.
  • At 03:16 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Roger wrote:

What's truly bizarre is that Theo Wallcot is in the top half of the vote without even playing! Gooner voters I suppose

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  • 87.
  • At 03:18 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • wallis wrote:

Whoever wins the Young Player of the Year award is effectively representing all the up and coming talented players around the world, and showing the next generation of footballers what they should be like. If Ronaldo wins then it means the next generation of children in this country will grow up diving and cheating - thats not what we need or want! Valencia is a good player in his own right, and I hope he wins the vote - he has the right attitude for football as well as the talent.

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  • 88.
  • At 03:23 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Lee Mitchell wrote:

I am from England and I'm ashamed to be English. The whole country is full of bad losers who have to blame other people to excuse the fact that they have a sub-standard football team who never stood a chance of winning the World Cup - in fact they were lucky to get so far. The media reaction to Ronaldo is nothing short of sickening. Rooney clearly should have been sent off, has everyone forgotten that he should be blamed for his sending off? Like Ronaldo said, he isn't a referee, he cannot decide to send someone off. Alan Shearer's comments after the game were appalling, saying that it is ok to go into the dressing room and punch Ronaldo. This is a former player that was celebrated in England, it shows the mentality of the English football fan. This comment was made on the BBC who pride themselves on being impartial. The BBC has been far from impartial and has made a great effort to victimise Ronaldo which is a disgrace.

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  • 89.
  • At 03:25 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • tuumay wrote:

I don't think there is a young player who can scop Ronaldo in this world cup. This can be in tactics,his confidence. you can even consider how the defeders look when he touches the ball.
Or you can see how the players tackle on him,like the match against Netherlands.

Now hopfully,you can say "RONALDO IS THE BEST YOUNG PLAYER TODAY!!!!"
vote CHRISTIAN!

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  • 90.
  • At 03:25 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Mark Fresh wrote:

It's funny when people insult the English for being losers who can't take losing. Yes we can, we lost, we're over it, just because you read the tabloids doesn't mean we all think like them.

Yes Ronaldo (named after Ronald Reagan by the way) is a good footballer and a passionate cheat. Admirable in some cultures but not here in England. Let's hope that FIFA can learn from the Portugese and their football 'style' to make it a better, more beautiful game in the future i.e. come down harshly on cheats (whatever the nation).

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  • 91.
  • At 03:26 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Andy wrote:

Ronaldo is a disgrace to his country. I beleive any player cought diving, during a game or afterawards by a fifa panel should get an instant 2 match ban minimum. Therefore Ronaldo would not have played in half the world cup games, but Henry would not have been there to win that pen against portugal.

The english are bad losers but at least we play an honest game. Any idiot can see Portugal are big cheats, but are not alone

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  • 92.
  • At 03:26 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • 8-baw wrote:

will you english get over it! you were patently not good enough to go through. you lot must agree that if gerrard, lampard etc played to their potential and weren't shadows of their usual selves then this argument would be moot. rooney is a petulant little gimp at the best of times. you really need to learn your limitations as a footballing nation. peace out. kkthxbye.

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  • 93.
  • At 03:26 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • james wrote:

What's honour got to do with football. If honour was an issue, Rooney would be the subject of hate not Ronaldo. England lost thanks to Rooney, Eriksson and Beckham, they make me sick. Nothing to do with Ronaldo, he's PORTUGUESE and did not invent diving. If he wants to act in support of Portugal he can. Wayne Rooney probably stayed in the boxing ring too long, he's the most unattractive, violent, unimaginative, overrated footballer playing for England that I've had the misfortune to watch. I couldn't believe his behaviour at being substituted. He not Ronaldo needs help.

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  • 94.
  • At 03:31 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Brocks wrote:

I have had the fortunate pleasure of catching most of the games in this world cup, and the Portugal "gamesmanship" has been disgusting. This has been led by Ronaldo's diving.

For those of you that think that this is just English bitternes:
1) I am Welsh, and therefore genetically dislike the English
2) There is VIDEO EVIDENCE of Ronaldo and teammates faking all over the place - far more than other teams put together!

Ronaldo is a very talented player, but people (certainly British) value sportsmanship above precocious talent.

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  • 95.
  • At 03:37 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Sean wrote:

"CHEATING"

Ronaldo deserves all he gets and this is not all bitterness re: rooney. hes a big boy. he can take it. this is the same sentiment focused toward drogba last season, and frankly any other players who 'cheat'. its not sporting, its not a good example and in some cases I would go so far as to call it disgusting (as disgusting as hate campaigns and xenophobia !!). I for one am growing very very tired of it. I still play competitive football at a reasonable level (age 29) and this behaviour is filtering down. it will spoil my love of the game. it must be nipped in the bud in all its forms.

Clearly mr blatter has no idea how ... ohh erm, 3 yellows, erm 2 refs ???!!! get with the age of modern technology !! although he acknowledges the problem

the reasons for the responses you read, the booing, the email (i voted) etc is because the root of the problems are not being addressed.

SPORTSMANSHIP

ronaldo et al ... please go and play in other leagues so your antics are not totally adopted here to achieve a level playing field ... or at least until we have the solutions implemented.

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  • 96.
  • At 03:44 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Utd Fan wrote:

U english fans are just sore loosers. Lay of ronaldo he was jus backin his team mate as wud have rooney dun had he been in dat position. As for divers and cheats wa bout drogba many times in da premiership and wa about henry during the game against spain. Oh yeh and diving is not as bad as stamping on a mans family jewels. u lot hav always got an excuse ur acting as if ronaldo took ur penalties and missed em. And ronaldo does deserve the award and knowing you fans u mite aswell vote for theo walcott.

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  • 97.
  • At 03:44 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Edwin wrote:

We are spoiling Rooney

Last night I watch France beat Portugal and like many people in this country I was really happy with the results. I supported France because Portugal in their game with England like their other games were poor and I wanted the better team to win.
What surprised me so much was the booing that followed every kicked of the ball by Ronaldo. What was his crime, I kept on asking myself and friends watching with me. Am I the only person missing something, when the press (radio, television, papers etc) are all brandishing him a cheat and the “sole” person responsible for Rooney’s sending off? What did Ronaldo do that David Beckham's, A. Cole or John Terry has NEVER done? Maybe his crime is that he did not plead with the referee to keep Rooney (his team mate) on the pitch.
The point is that Rooney was sent off and when Rooney is sent off, someone’s got to pay the price for our golden boys sending off. Ronaldo’s got to pay the price and should even be declared non grata to this country. We lost because Rooney was off and Rooney was off because of Ronaldo. Rooney did nothing wrong and will thus not apologise to ANYBODY. In his own words, he was "gobsmacked" for the sending off but no, not apologetic!. Did he led the team down? The answer to that question is flying in the wind.
Rooney says; "If you ask any player - and indeed almost any fan - they will tell you that I am straight and honest in the way I play”. I love this country dearly and hold Man United to my heart but I am not one of those fans and what I see on the pitch or on television will not be confused by what is said by Ian Wright or Alan Shearer. We all saw what happened but these two guys bend it all to Ronaldo. Rooney’s action, accidentally or not was a straight red card fault and Rooney needs to be reminded that part of the game is avoiding such accidents and committing them will imply letting your team down!
When David Beckham's was sent off in 1998 for a stupid fault (which he could equally claim was accidental), we all rose up against him and he got the message clean and clear, “be good young man, you are special but must not let this nation down again!. David learned from it and went on to captain this country to the next two world cups. We had a chance to prepare Rooney for this world cup when he was sent off against Northern Ireland, but what did we say; he’s young with a strong fighting spirit, he will learn things latter, you can’t take that from him, that’s how he is. Did he learn anything from it? Yeah he did; that he is the special one that does nothing wrong, he’s the golden boy who’ll win the world cup single handed for us. We informed him that he was the God that could make everything possible for us and when he was substituted in his first game, he reacted by kicking and throwing his toys out of the pram. Instead of reminding him that football is a team game and to stay on the pitch he needs to play well, we all took the blame from him saying “he’s hungry to play and frustrated”. What did he learned? He realised that everyone understands his frustration and he can even carry it to the pitch. He showed part of that frustration to Carvalho, Ronaldo and any of the bottles he meet on his way after the sending off! Did Rooney learn or has he learn anything? He must have, if he continues listening to our formal pros and the press urging him to start the new season by picking up a fight with his team mate on the first training day.
The most surprising thing is the fact we continue to say he’s a young man, he’s still young. Was he the youngest boy in this tournament? Was he the only stricker that was playing alone up front? I couldn’t stop admiring the young Ronaldo playing upfront, on the left wing, the right wing and even in the central midfield for his country. Frustration!!!
We not Rooney have the choice to send him the Beckham way or the George Best/ Gaza way. Rooney will take what so ever the press and supporters tell him the right way and we still have enough time to mould him before the European cup and the next world cup. I hope we will teach Rooney to lead England and not catering Town or an unknown Chinese team.
Ronaldo not Rooney will receive the reception that was reserved for Beckham after France 98 and if he continues the way he played last night, then I’m certain that Ronaldo not Rooney will go on to lead his country and stand up like a role model for millions of children around the world.

Edwin is a foreigner in England


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  • 98.
  • At 03:47 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • derodero wrote:

Why can't England fans leave leave this promising young player alone and admit their defeat? Sore losers!

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  • 99.
  • At 03:49 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Joseph wrote:

In the Ronaldo-Rooney incident, Rooney and the English press have proven themselves to be the real cry babies.

It was a World Cup match, and Ronaldo was playing for the other side. Get over yourselves.

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  • 100.
  • At 03:50 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Tim Humphries wrote:

This has got nothing to do with the Rooney incident.
I'm over all that - England didn't deserve to go any further playing like that, but there is no way I would want to see Ronaldo win an award for his performances. What kind of example would that set? Along with many other players, he's been diving his way through the tournament and shouldn't be rewarded. He's a cheat.

Fantastic I say...Vote Valencia (whoever he is)

As for losig with Dignity - coming from a Jock that's hilarious. They're bitter to the end...

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  • 101.
  • At 03:54 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • willy wrote:

These English fans are just too pathetic. I had always thought the English could be fair but surprised they are this petty. Now, Ronaldo is a villain, what of that bonehead, Rooney? Ronaldo definitely carries a baggage (a heavy one) but he is still the best young player of this tournament, by miles! All right-thinking voters should choose him and ignore these sore losers. Maybe the best way to pacify them is to simply declare an English Fatwah against Ronaldo.

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  • 102.
  • At 03:54 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Jeff Steel wrote:

There is certainly something going on and I am happy to have been part of it. A noticeboard at the club which I support had an entry that the cheating one was leading the poll for best young player. We were all exhorted to vote for Valencia. I did so and emailed 50 friends to do the same. From our one club several thousand votes would have been cast for Valencia. Across England tens of thousands would have been cast.

It is democracy in action: a grassroots revolt which shows massive revulsion against Ronaldo in influencing the referee to send off Wayne Rooney.

If the BBC wish me to comment further I am quite happy to do so.

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  • 103.
  • At 04:01 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • charlie wrote:

Well, if you read your own news-site you'll see that scottish football fans got him up there in the first place, only for english fans to email around and vote the ecuadorean above him in the last 24 hours. ahhh the joys of the internet cum world cup

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  • 104.
  • At 04:02 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Rich wrote:

Did Rooney deserve to get sent off, of course!
Is anyone disputing that!?
But Ronaldo is a disgrace, headbutting wayne rooney before the game, trying to get him sent off and then winking when the mission was accomplished and to think some of you acuse england supporters of being unsporting and immature…

The guy gets everything he deserves!

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  • 105.
  • At 04:03 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Paul Bestall wrote:

Can I ask why no-one has mentioned the amount of votes Ronaldo got from Scottish fans??

Hmmm. Besides I couldn't watch either team last night, lost all respect for Henry in champions league final, can't stand watching Portugal in any competition be it league, cup or international.

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  • 106.
  • At 04:07 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Hadley wrote:

We'd do well to concentrate on the short-comings of our own side. The much-lauded Lampard proved to be a waste of a plane ticket. Sven got everything wrong but more imporant was the small number of players who showed any pride or urgency. Poor Wright-Phillips and others who have the hunger that our bunch (apart from Rooney) lacked. Rooney was sent off for his shove. The ref showed no sign of pulling ANY cards before that. It was harsh and probably wrong to send him off but that's that. Portugal and Porto have cheated their way to success of late but they are not the only team or nation. It is up to FIFA and referees to issue harsh penalties to stamp it out. Arsenal and Chelsea have enjoyed Viera and Henry, Drogba et al going down so complaining because some related to Old Trafford does it seems silly.

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  • 107.
  • At 04:09 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Mike Banks wrote:

This over reaction to Ronaldo is becoming ridiculous.
Would people have the same opinions if Portugal had played the Germans and someone had been sent off under the same circumstances ?
I think not.
As for the continous accusations of diving, yes he has but have we also see our own Steven Gerrad falling over for no reason ?
Did we not see Henry falling over, rolling round and clutching his face when the replays clearly showed no one had touched him. Totti has also gone to ground very easliy as have lots of players in the tournement.
On the Henry incident even Ian Right was moved to say "i am really dissapounted in Henry" but that was all that was said, why ? He cheated just the same and should be castigated in the same way that Ronaldo is being.

Lets face it, this reaction is because Rooney was sent off, we lost the game, Ronaldo was their best player and of course he scored the penalty to put us out.
As for the coverage in last nights game from the BBC i thought it was absolutly outrageous.
Are they not supposed to be impartial and comment on what is actually happening instead of expressing views and theitr own personel opinions ?
John Motson was a disgrace.

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  • 108.
  • At 04:11 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Ezekiel Phayze wrote:

What happened between Ronaldo and Rooney in the game of Portugal Vs England isn't unusual in the game of football. If you can just be impartial for a moment you'd know that whenever a player from one team is fouled by an opposing teams player, sometimes the fouled players team mates protest. Can you say, without a doubt, that Ronaldo called for a red card on Rooney? If an opponent had done to one of our players what Rooney did to the Portugese player, do you think players of any team, England included, would sit back? We've complained to refs aswell. How many players, English ones too, have applauded a yellow or red card given to an opponent? If you were to stop being so emotional and bitter, you'd know that there's not one perfect team out there. I don't hear us protesting about Crouch's header against T&T when he held the opposings players hair to gain an advantage in getting the header and goal. If you look for faults on the English team as well as the others, you will find them. Argentina were pretty viscious against Mexico, but wait; Argentina didn't play us so it's OK for them to get away with it. Tim Borowski said something towards the Argentinians right at the end of the Germany Vs Argentina game and we all know what happened next. Why aren't we criticising every other team? Is this because we lost to Portugal? If Ronaldo was on the England team, would as many people be as against him for this award?

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  • 109.
  • At 04:12 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • John Phillips wrote:

Being someone who enjoys a good game of football but sees it as only a game, if this world cup is a measure of the quality of International football then the game is in a truly sorry mess as I can't recall a single game that will stay in the memory for the football but plenty that will for the childish antics of many of the players.

Considering that Ronaldo's behaviour was no worse than the actions of so many other players in this tournament it seems churlish to pick only on him. It seems to me after watching this world cup that the average professional football player has only confirmed that they are nothing more than cheating, lying spoilt children who will do anything that they think they can get away with and where the end always justifies the means. So much for the beautiful game.

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  • 110.
  • At 04:14 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Yele wrote:

The English fans are a bunch of bad losers. The reality is that Rooney is nothing but an over-rated spoilt brat. He should be held responsible for his irresponsible behaviour on the football field. He deserve the RED CARD. Please leave Ronaldo alone.

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  • 111.
  • At 04:15 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • elias wrote:

well get it over with Ronaldo thing.It was not for him that Rooney gets red.If there is someone that should be responsible for the sending off it is Rooney's own reputation and secondly sven's tactic.
Ronaldo is a player with a lots of skills that the whole england team doesn't have.
THEY EVEN CANT SCOORE A PENALTY KICK

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  • 112.
  • At 04:16 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Paul wrote:

For all those self-righteous, holier than thou England fans - it wasn't the French supporters booing Ronaldo. It was the England supporters who bought tickets for the game convinced that their team would be there.

Portugal have not been great in the tournament, but then neither were England and it was only a matter of time before they were knocked out.

These hate campaigns start after every tournament England are knocked out of and the people that start them are scum - Ronaldo did nothing wrong, Rooney got himself sent off because he is an animal pure and simple. If you need someone to blame, blame the team for bottling it, or the coach for being pish!

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  • 113.
  • At 04:19 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • boscelona wrote:

I have to say I am absolutely ashamed to be an England fan after all this. Ronaldo did not make us go out of the world cup. Svens bad substitutions and ultimately Wayne Rooneys pure stupidity did. I am a United fan and so love rooney proably more than a lot of other english fans but the fact is simple he is a thug!! We keep defending him like this he is never going to learn. Remember against spain, against northern ireland?! Why we criticise ronaldo I dont know - yes he is a team mate but surely we want our players to put country before club anyway!! I would like to challenge any of the moronic ronaldo bashers to say if rooney had gone down, blatantly stamped on by one of the argentina players, steven gerrard and gary neville (as well as a host of others) wouldnt have rushed in. Half these people clearly dont watch football! Remember gerrard + crouch v newcastle?! Our players are just as shameful - gerrards dive v hungary, joe coles diving all the time, crouchy pulling hair..

If we dont stop defending our players and criticising everyone else, not only are we nothing more than hypocrites but we will never win anything because rooney will always get wound up - imagine a cannavaro or ayala up against him, masters of winding up the strikers. Defending him like this is just adding to our next humiliating collapse.

Pathetic.

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  • 114.
  • At 04:20 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • peter kamara wrote:

You English like to blame others for your limitation. Rudeney is the worst player in the world. Ronaldo is the greatest.

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  • 115.
  • At 04:24 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • boscelona wrote:

and furthermore...

why do the bbc find it impossible to ever criticise le wonderful thierry, yes i am biased because he plays for arsenal but not a word has been said about his antics, probably the worst bit of acting of the tournament where he clutched his hands to face after no contact v spain..

and last night, yes carvalho touched him, watch the replays - half a second AFTER he flings himself to make sure...

Yet ronaldo takes all the flack for.. wait... complaining to the ref after his team mate gets stamped on?!

Its not liek he made any fuss of rooneys push either he just stood there and took it.

Yes he goes down all the time but at least most of the time he is touched, he wins free kicks (most of the time) rather then inventing them. (which i know he does do to).

All the players are doing it - we are just sore losers.

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  • 116.
  • At 04:24 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Chris C wrote:

In my opinion Ronaldo has not been the best young player in the World Cup whatsoever. It is obvious from watching him that he genuinley believes it is OK to cheat in order to win. I admire intregity and honesty in footballers and I dont think the best players in the world should need to rely on gamesmanship in order to win matches. For me Ronaldo is a symbol for the whole Portugese side, whose contribution to the latter stages of the tournament was almost entirely negative. They represent everything that is so frustrating about international football at the moment; consistently diving, play acting, whinging and encouraging referees to book opposing players. They have had an incredibly negative impact in this World Cup and the latter stages of the tournament was rescued only by the Germany vs Italy semi final which reminded me what the World Cup is actually all about. I am an Everton fan and am embarrassed to have a Portguese international in our team at the moment.

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  • 117.
  • At 04:25 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Ken wrote:

What carry on people in England are having over the Ronaldo/Rooney issue, some people should grow up . . . starting with so-called journalists in England's joke media outlets. If the boot had been on the other foot (pardon the pun) those same people would have been lauding the perpetrator to the heavens!

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  • 118.
  • At 04:34 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Daviola wrote:

I'd just like to say to the England fans, please try to lose with a little dignity. I honestly have never seen England lose a game and not have someone to blame for it. Ronaldo's behaviour was a little distasteful, but I'd be incensed if I saw my international teammate violently assaulted by a thugh like Rooney. Face it, England were fortunate to be at that stage and were one of the poorest sides in the competition. You should be a bit more like the Scots, we can take defeat and have a joke about it. We do not encourage a whole country to hate a 20 year old. Now Ronaldo is going to have to watch his back when he gets back to England because so many people will want to attack him. That's a sad inditement of British culture.

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  • 119.
  • At 04:36 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Big Phil wrote:

A lot of foreign fans on here moaning that England do the same as Ronaldo - diving, cheating etc. Anyone who knows anything about England and the Premiership will know that the English do not like cheats - this was why there was such an outcry over Stevie G diving in the penalty box earlier in the tournament - in every other country this would have been par for the course and a bit of "cunning trickery" and would not even have raised an eyebrow - over here it was condemned and Ian Wright was bang out of order when he said that "we should do it to others as they will do it to us". Not in the spirit of the game at all.

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  • 120.
  • At 04:37 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • James wrote:

FIFA's two main tenets are abolishing racism in football and promoting fair play. Throughout this World Cup Portugal have not exhibited one ounce of sportsmanship. That is why they are being universally condemned by many football fans.

Last night's game against the French saw even more deplorable antics. Miguel went down after tripping over himself, there was no contact from a Fench player, but the first thing Pauleta does is start screaming for a foul with his hands in the air. Similarly, Ronaldo's dive on the edge of the box was a blatant attempt at trickery and his dive inside the box was even worse. That's just three examples that stick out in my mind. I'm sure Pauleta was involved in more, as was Meira. I hope the TSG panel give the Young Player award to a player who exhibits attributes that FIFA want to be associated with. For my money, Fabregas or Podolski should be the winner.

Now, on to that Rooney red card. I have watched that video over and over. I absolutely do NOT believe that the ref intended the red at the start of the incident, he was going to give a free kick and have done with it. Look at the picture at the bottom of the page in this link:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2006/5153870.stm

The ref QUITE CLEARLY is indicating a free kick with his arm. If you refute that then you're blinkered. He then rapidly changed his mind and set off after Rooney after Ronaldo's tirade. The ref has said in the media that he fully intended the red from the moment the whistle went. Absolute rubbish. Again, if you believe that you're an idiot.

All in all, I just don't think Ronaldo played fairly, nor did Portugal, and I am very glad that they went out, they're a disgrace. Mind you, England were a disgrace too, what with Cole's diving, Crouch's hair-pulling etc.

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  • 121.
  • At 04:37 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Royston Vasey wrote:

So Giddy - in response to post #64, how has a "spotty little oik" rubbed it in? A gesture to his own team mates has infuriated a nation and incurred the wrath of you all?

As opposed to Rooney - a guy so mild mannered he'd never do anything wrong and is the sort of guy you could take home to meet your Gran - who ended up stamping on the tackle of an opponent.

I find it incredible that Rooney's behaviour has been completely ignored - he's a walking timebomb looking for a reason to explode. he's brought shame on himself as well as stamped on any chance you had of progressing, yet "Ronald O" has been the scapegoat to avoid any blame on the shoulders of Wonder Boy.

It's also amazing how you all jump on the bandwagon, saying that you need to erradicate this sort of behaviour in football, yet the players who are some of the worst offenders are plying their trade in your self-proclaimed "best league in the world".... and don't forget, Robinson's dive was only "cheeky" while a few hours later henry's was "shameful". Double standards?

And as for the comments regarding how he's done this to earn a move to Real Madrid - could you blame him for not wanting to play for Man Utd now? The media hate him, you have the likes of Shearer encouraging somebody to "do him" in training and generally trying to hound him out the game. This the same Alan Shearer with so much ambition and confidence in his own talent he retired from International football (realise you weren't good enough Al?) and also spent the majority of his career at a nothing club where he could be the proverbial big fish in the small pond.

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  • 122.
  • At 04:38 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Raymond wrote:

Giddy at 64 is right - I think the majority of the English press and fans have pointed at Sven's tactics (if that's what they were...) and team selection.

But nobody likes smugness. And to be honest, if Portugal had only played dirty in that one match, people would have put it down to their tactics to beat the English. But as it was, they did it against the Dutch, and if you look back to Euro 2004, they were not angels then either.

It also seems like Ronaldo is one of those kids who likes to wind people up, including his team mates. He did it to Ruud Van Nistelrooij, and Wayne Rooney.

You know the story about the boy who cried "wolf"? He kept running back into the village saying there was a wolf lurking nearby. There was no wolf. But when there really WAS one, nobody believed him and he was attacked. Well this time the wolf was a combination of French discipline and a brilliant referee.

Overall, I think Portugal's play-acting is a team effort, and I'm glad they're out. The French did the Dutch and the English a favour, now I hope they win the whole thing.

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  • 123.
  • At 04:39 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Bea wrote:

#72
you wrote:

"Not at all, as much as England may dive, we do it in reflex mode."

Winking can be a reflex, too.

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Ronaldo isn't just a bad player. He is a dishonest individual,whose behaviour is detrimental to footbal. He can't just win. I don't see any skills refered to in most messages. He is just a dancer masqerading as a footballer. I wish he were expelled from ManU just as that Korean player in 2002.

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  • 125.
  • At 04:41 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • gary wrote:

Ronaldo was one of the best players on the park last night, as he was against England. He doesnt deserve the negative comments that are being made about him. No one is complaining about the fact that Rooney quite clearly stamped his foot on Nuno Valentes leg and lost his temper and pushed Ronaldo. It should be Rooneys behaviour that we are discussing not Ronaldo's. Also given that Rooney plays in the same team as Ronaldo - should he really behave in such a childish manner towards his 'work collegue'. But then again perhaps if this hadnt happened, the England comentators would'nt have their excuses as to why England didnt win the world cup!

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  • 126.
  • At 04:42 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Terence Chibula wrote:

I have no idea what the English supporters are up to. The fact is Rooney intentionally stepped on Ricardo's groin. I saw the video on and on and I have no doubt about it. They should be pleading with the Fergie and Maclaren to work on Rooney's behaviour before something really worse happens. Do not exercise the anger on Ronaldo, the referree saw it all. Move on and counsel your future star.

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  • 127.
  • At 04:44 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • richard wrote:

To the Scot who lauds Ronaldo - such lack of graciousness and integrity - of course you want England to lose, it's normal but to defend bad sportsmanship like that is risible.

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  • 128.
  • At 04:52 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • KG wrote:

If the English are the people to be commenting on the sportsmanship of any player, then they should protray it themselfves. True, that Christiano Ronaldo acted like a little baby at times, but we forget that he is afterall only 21. Taking Rooney into account, he would not have been so stupid in front of the refereee if he had a bit more maturity. Players and people learn these things as time go on. I think the english fans themselves need to grow up before pointing fingers.

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  • 129.
  • At 04:54 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Tommy wrote:

Of course it has been hijacked! And rightly so.......

Even as an Englishman I don't have any particular axe to grind against Ronaldo concerning the Rooney incident, suprising to some maybe, but we lost because we didn't score and we are rubbish at penalty shoot-outs. My view for what it's worth on the issue is Rooney (accidently or not) stood on this guy's "tomatoes" and I think the ref was possible considering a yellow, but following the push of Ronaldo he opted for red. That's not neccessarily the fault of Ronaldo, that's as much upto Rooney to keep his temper in-check when the ref's fishing in his pocket for a card. Don't get me wrong I think players who remonstrate with the ref to give other players a card, should in fact themselves be shown a card (yellow).

HOWEVER, the idea of him being voted Best Young Play is terrible, simply because it sends out completely the wrong message to young players and kids; that diving and feigning injury etc is the way to play, and frankly I think this issue is already damaging football, nevermind the future game.

He clearly is a manipulator (oh let's say it; cheat) in trying to gain fouls, and this was in my view even more apparent in the game against france last night, his attempt to get free-kicks or penatlties is woeful, I recall one particulary incident when challenged by Signol on an incoming high-cross his attempt was blatant; mid air, on realising his chances of heading the ball had gone, arching his back and out-stretching his arms with a face of sheer agony was pathetic. And he wasn't the only one, it's obviously a directive to the Portuguese team, having said that Ronaldo & Co (the majority) do it in their respective domestic games.

To make matter worse he doesn't even see the folly of his ways and appears to have no shame at all, quoted today as saying " We played well and did our best but the referee didn't help us," This suggests to me he has no idea of the level of his own deceiving, and a misconceived idea of what the ref is there for "Everyone who saw the match could see that the referee wasn't fair." Is he talking about the same game?

For the sake of our Kids vote for anybody, but Ronaldo

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  • 130.
  • At 04:58 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Matt C wrote:

It was actually Carvalho's groin not Ricardo's Terence, I think you need to watch the video again

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  • 131.
  • At 05:00 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Mike wrote:

I noticed when reading through the comments on this posting board that a number of the emails refer to 'Britain' or 'British' when they really mean England/English. Please try and get it right as it's very hurtful to us Scottish - we are also British.

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  • 132.
  • At 05:00 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Richard wrote:

Ronaldo = Cheat, and does not deserve any sort of recognition by FIFA. What kind of example would that set to the up and coming players. Throw yourself on the floor, try desperately to get players sent off. It's a disgrace, regardsless of whether Rooney offended or not. I loved the reaction to him in last nights game, it was great to see that the majority recognise him for what he is.

As for the Scottish attempting to influence the vote, crikey you didn't even manage to win that with a huge headstart!!

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  • 133.
  • At 05:10 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Tam Sibbald wrote:

I note one of the earlier contributors to this debate bemoaned Ronaldo "...moaning, crying and stamping his foot when he doesn't get his own way. " Surely a fair description of Rooney's reaction to the red card he rightly received for violent conduct.
Try to be objective- England were rubbish and didn't deserve to progress to the semi finals. Ronaldo was one of the most entertaining players at the tournament and the casual aplomb with which he struck his penalty merely highlighted how abject the efforts from Lampard, Gerrard and Carragher had been.

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  • 134.
  • At 05:10 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Bea wrote:

Does anybody take into consideration how Luis Valencia might feel if he wins knowing that he only won because people weren´t FOR him but AGAINST Ronaldo? I would only be glad about an honour being voted "best young player" if I honestly deserved it for what I really acheived. By launching this truely childish and useless voting campaign you aren´t only hurting Ronaldo but also Luis Valencia.

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  • 135.
  • At 05:12 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Gordon Sutcliffe wrote:

It's disturbing to see the amount of raw hatred pervading this blog, not for Ronaldo, but for the English. So many comments are irrelevant and seem to be an excuse to have a go at the English. Let's get some things straight shall we: 1. the media do not equal the public. Every time there's a large tournament, the press work up a hype (perhaps so the defeat is all the more spectacular when they come to sell their newspapers after we go out) that is not reflected by reasonable Englishmen, who did NOT assume that England were going to win the tournament. Why should they have a better chance then the likes of Brazil, Argentina, Italy, France, etc.? We're not stupid. Stop swallowing the rubbish in the press and talk to the guy in the street. 2. To this day I have not seen a single word written anywhere to suggest that Ronaldo was responsible for England's exit. So where has this bizarre criticism that the English must find a scapegoat come from? The British nations have a strong sense of sportsmanship and are disgusted at the antics of many foreign teams, Ronaldo crossed the line in a big way by doing this against his own club teammate, the rest of the criticism is just aftershock. Foreigners that post here have been brought up with a mentality very alien to sportsmanship and should try to understand it before making comments about "Ronaldo did what he had to do". 3. It is not just the English that are criticising the Portuguese. I speak five languages, including Portuguese, and have been reading news in all those languages. Unsurprisingly the Portuguese think they should have had a spate of penalties last night and that Henry's wasn't a penalty at all. This is the kind of mentality we're dealing with. 4. Before criticising the English for voting for Valencia to beat Ronaldo, bear in mind that Ronaldo himself was put there by an intense media campaign in Portugal and, surprise surprise, the Scottish, who really need to take a look at themselves before they get on their soap box about the English.
5. Yes, diving has crept into the English game and is becoming a problem, but this IS criticised by the English public who are determined to see the end of it, whereas in Portugal and Argentina, for example, this kind of behaviour is often seen as 'clever'; there is also a huge difference between occasionally diving and getting back up again, and diving, feigning serious injury, and surrounding the referee brandishing imaginary cards nearly EVERY SINGLE TIME there's a foul. Keep things in perspective please. 6. Do the English turn a blind eye when their own players dive? Rubbish. The fact that those criticising this are able to point this out is because it has been shown to them by press and TV. Crouch's hair pull against Portugal was replayed multiple times and commented upon, Henry (to the guy writing above) received some very damning criticism after his tangle with Pujol, if these comments don't seem as harsh as against Portugal players then this is because the former do it on occasions and not at every possible opportunity. 7. To say that teammates' protests is 'normal' is far from the truth. It is not normal, did anybody see the Portuguese surrounding the referee last night after one of their player's had gone down with not a France player near him? They do it out of habit and because they know that they are wearing the referee down, the more they protest and show that they are hard done by, the more likely the referee is to give out bookings, sendings off, free kicks, and penalties. Barcelona do it for fun. It works. This is bad enough in itself, but why pick on Ronaldo in particular? What short memories you people have: HE DID IT AGAINST HIS OWN CLUB TEAMMATE.

Anybody that debates these points does not understand the power of sportsmanship in the minds of the British. It's not surprising to see that most of the pro-Ronaldo party here is foreign. It just shows that it is a lost cause trying to advertise sportsmanship and fairplay to latin countries, and looking at the trend in the Premiership it is disturbingly going in the opposite direction.

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  • 136.
  • At 05:13 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • PC wrote:

This is all a little hypocritical isnt it, was it not rooney who went running over to the referee to ensure petit was booked in the first half.
Also you all seem to be forgetting rooney stamped on a player and deserved to go. Ronaldo defending the player on his own team from rooneys frustrations is hardly shocking, im sure had ronaldo stamped on anyone rooney would have been straight over. Every pundit and ex player with the exception of marcel dessailly seems keen to tell tales themselves about ronaldos antics but its some how not okay for ronaldo to encourage disiplinary action towards an opposition player stamping on his fellow team mate. Think you all are a little keen to blame somebody else for an england campaign that showed the team cant pass well or work as a unit. Boring in my opinion

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  • 137.
  • At 05:17 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Terry wrote:

Everytime I see all the hate directed towards Ronaldo, it makes me even more satisfied that England lost to his sublime, (Ball Kissed) penalty kick. Do me a favor England, get a mirror and take a long, good look into it. Then grow up, please!

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  • 138.
  • At 05:19 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Dave Gregson wrote:

To all Scots contributing to this thread - until the next time (if ever) Scotland qualify for a major tournament, mind your own business

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  • 139.
  • At 05:23 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • kennedy okai wrote:

ronaldo deserves better than what is available

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  • 140.
  • At 05:28 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Neil wrote:

The fan vote is OVER!

The 6 nominees have been chosen and Ronaldo is one of them.
So all the pathetic England "fans" who think they are getting revenge on Ronaldo for forcing Rooney to stamp on Carvalho can calm down. Their votes were wasted.
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/060704/1/8kvr.html

A FIFA commitee will award the prize. I think Podolski will get it as it will be a nice "Thank You" to Germany for a great WC. Ronaldo should come close though. He was excellent last night. Even the BBC admitted he was the best attacking player onthe pitch.

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  • 141.
  • At 05:28 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • ron wrote:

Oh come on, sour grapes by the English all round I think. No matter what Ronaldo was up to England should have thrashed Portugal, but instead like in the previous games before, they under achieved so badly, were so dull, uninventive, bereft of ideas that they have no one to blame but themselves.

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  • 142.
  • At 05:35 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • William Baxter wrote:

If it is true about the Scottish vote for Ronaldo then they must have a warped and perverse intelligence....will they ever learn!

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  • 143.
  • At 05:39 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Chris wrote:

Ronaldo may be talented, but this award isn't just for skill alone.. Ronaldo has proven he is not a team player by encouraging Rooney to be sent off and winking at his own bench after achieving this, As well as an obvious dive against France.

He just plays dirty football when it doesn't go his way like a spoilt child.. Trying to get people sent off or booked whilst trying to get penalties.

Look how Portugal ruined the Holland game.

People respected Ronaldo and voted but now people want to withdraw that support.. how if they already voted? Get others to vote for everyone but him!

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  • 144.
  • At 05:45 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • rope wrote:

hate something ,change something....la la la .....grow up people!! I think teams should start refusing to play England cause its always the same sh1t.

And a bit of prespective goes a long way. He is a kid ok? remember when you were 20/21 ? what sort of silly things were you doing?

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  • 145.
  • At 05:53 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Steve wrote:

Ronaldo is not the most honest player ever to take a pitch but when will english fans stop making a scapegoat for their own defeats! Fact: England were, when you consider their players, one of the worst teams at the World Cup. They failed to inspire or excite. Eriksson is an overpaid joke and that is why England failed so miserably.

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  • 146.
  • At 05:54 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Alastair F wrote:

Try and get some perspective here. The papers' villification of Ronaldo does one thing, above all else. It sells more papers.

He isn't any more of a cheat than Gerrard (dive in the FA Cup Final anyone?), Joe Cole, Ashley Cole, Michael Owen against Argentina, Thierry Henry, Patrick Viera.. The list goes on. And on.

He protested against one teammate who stamped on another teammate, Carvalho. He didn't wave an imaginary card (look again - it's not shown on any of the replays), he did nothing more than you would have done in the circumstances.

There are lots of reasons in football to be embarrassed about being English, but this constant whinging is fast becoming the worst. You'd rather attack a 20 year old boy than admit we were at fault.

I got the email yesterday, and I voted for Ronaldo.

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  • 147.
  • At 05:54 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Singh wrote:

Hi

Ronaldo will score a brace on Saturday and win the young player of the tournament convincingly. Just like how Portugal were convincingly the better team againt England, and how France were convincingly the better team again Portugal.

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  • 148.
  • At 05:55 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • soccerinteg wrote:

Cristiano Ronaldo is definitely the 2006WC FIFA BYP. To deny him is a travesty of justice.
To deprive him of this award is uncivilized. He was hacked, savaged & mauled (viz ala Dutch & in his rookie EPL season) and now by the slanted media machine and the rigged votes. To paraphrase Ceasar " cry havoc and let loose the dogs of war". I say " cry foul and rein in the loose lips and sheath in the jingoistic diatribe".
Ronaldo brings out the BEST and worst ( yellow) in entertainment & jounalism.

He reminds me of my beloved George Best.

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  • 149.
  • At 05:55 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Eduardo Moncayo wrote:

There is nothing funny about this. I think it is just jealousy. I am Ecuadorian and I saw the email going around here. It was an email to support Valencia rather than to go against Ronaldo or any other player. Ecuadorians are very supportive and proud of themselves. We stick together. We care about each other. That is why Valencia took first place.

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  • 150.
  • At 06:03 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Simon wrote:

To the trainspotter Matt C, regarding his insistence that we should watch video re-runs of Carvalho's groin.

Mate, what you watch in your spare time is up to you, but that particular video nasty won't be making it to my collection.

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  • 151.
  • At 06:03 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Ant wrote:

What a bunch of bad losers england fans are!! would you have the same opinion about the portuguese team if england had won? Worst than a winker is a whole nation incapacity to admit a bad result for your team!

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  • 152.
  • At 06:03 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Parts wrote:

As a football lover I'm disappointed with the level of diving and the embellishment of contact that has plagued this and other major football tournaments. However, to point the finger at Ronaldo for Rooney's sending off is ridiculous. Some of the comments in the media about Ronaldo and Portugal are nothing short of an embarrassment. Rooney's sending off was no-ones but his own doing. Stamping on someone's "family allowance" is a clear sending off. The real questions should be why 11 of the best players in the world consistently under perform and why one of the top footballing nations only took one fully fit striker, that they were willing to play, to the finals?

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  • 153.
  • At 06:06 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Mark Palin wrote:

Cheats should never prosper.

Its not that Rooney got sent off its the fact that he winked and made the sshh gesture.

We cannot rely on the referees and FIFA to make an example of cheats. Therefore the fans of football have limited avenues of redress to vent their displeasure. Manyt of us chose to do so by voting for someone other than Ronaldo - i chose Rooney but hey.

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  • 154.
  • At 06:06 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Will wrote:

Glenn from Scotland, I know you haven't mentioned whether you agree with the Scots campaign to get Ronaldo into the top spot but I wanted to mention how petty and amusingly unnoticed these 'massive campaigns against England' are. I wasn't even aware that the Scots were lauding Ronaldo as their national hero for his part in the Rooney fiasco. It seems keeping up rivalries distracts from watching the actual football itself.

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  • 155.
  • At 06:08 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Toffael wrote:

I'm a Man Utd fan. And the events of the past week are exactly why I put my club above the pathetic country that is Team England.

Lets start out, Rooney and Ronaldo are both our boys. And I have followed each with impartial and frenzied intrest since they both hit the scene over the past two years.

Rooney was an idiot and deserved to get sent off.

It had nothing to do with Ronaldo.

But Team England are a pathetic excuse for a football club and its fans full of sheep who cannot think for themselves.

Blame Ronaldo if it helps you sleep at night. Its yet another lame attacck at United by the ABU crew. ABU followers wo love Team England. well, don't worry, you deserve the likes of Heskey, Joe Cole and Alan Shearer to warm you up.

Ronnie, as a United fan who has your best interests here, go and find yourself a better place to play. This lot don't deserve your silky skills. They will never understand what it measn to play real football. We probably can't protect you enough at OT .... its a crying shame. Or stick around and propel us, United to further triumpth. That's the ebst way to stick fingers at ABU and Team England. I'm sure even Rooney would admire that to

Good luck to you

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  • 156.
  • At 06:11 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • portugues wrote:

English people (not all) dont b worry about ronaldo he cant win (and i think he deserves it)because fifa dont like small countries .Look at the choose of the man of the match in portuguese matchs and u understand what im talking about ,for example yesterday it was Thuram .Everybody is talking about thuram game isnt that true? Amazing performance ...lol

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  • 157.
  • At 06:11 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • makaveli wrote:

myspace has now almosy 100million profiles on people. i have been contacted three times in the past 36 hours giving me a link to vote with a cover letter begging not to vote for ronaldo but to vote for valencia.

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  • 158.
  • At 06:15 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Eduardo Moncayo wrote:

Just want to make something clear. That website to vote against Ronaldo was created by English fans (not Ecuadorian fans), just because they are sore loosers. If people want Ronaldo to win, let the Portuguese fans vote for him; just like Ecuadorian fans are voting for Valencia. I am Ecuadorian and we just want to support one of our own instead of going against any other player. Please keep the game clean and fair.

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  • 159.
  • At 06:18 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Jools wrote:

ronaldo was a disgrace. for an adult to jump around on the floor whenever he is touched/near someone is disappointing. awards should be given to role models and true professionals - would you describe this to be the case with ronaldo? if players are getting away with this moronic acting then international football will go down the pan!

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  • 160.
  • At 06:19 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Jools wrote:

ronaldo was a disgrace. for an adult to jump around on the floor whenever he is touched/near someone is disappointing. awards should be given to role models and true professionals - would you describe this to be the case with ronaldo? if players are getting away with this moronic acting then international football will go down the pan!

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  • 161.
  • At 06:21 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Jools wrote:

ronaldo was a disgrace. for an adult to jump around on the floor whenever he is touched/near someone is disappointing. awards should be given to role models and true professionals - would you describe this to be the case with ronaldo? if players are getting away with this moronic acting then international football will go down the pan!

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  • 162.
  • At 06:22 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Ahmed Hussien wrote:

Are you guys there out of mind??????? Ronaldo is such a talented and proffessional player. Who is he to tell a referee to give red card. It is nonesense. wake up and face the reality. Clean your home first to clean others.

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  • 163.
  • At 06:42 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • valerie harrod wrote:

Please, please tell me that the British public and most of all the British Press are not going to repeat the immoral and wicked treatment handed out to David Beckham a few years ago with Cristiano Ronaldo!

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  • 164.
  • At 06:44 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Chris M wrote:

This is so typical of the English. Everytime they go out of a major tournament, they throw their rattle out of their pram and start blaming everyone else (in this case Cristiano Ronaldo) for their own short comings. At the end of the day, England simply weren't good enough. Ronaldo gets my vote.

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  • 165.
  • At 06:48 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Dev C wrote:

I have also seen the video several times and think Rooney's 'stamp' was unintentional and he had no space to move but ok maybe I'm biased. So look at what other nations are saying. A french friend told me that in France the TV commentators started off supporting Portugal (anyone but the English!) but were so appalled by the Portugese antics that they started cheering on England instead. William Gallas also said in an interview that he expected the Portugese to dive. And you cannot seriously suggest that the boo-ing in last night's semi-final was only the England supporters??

Other teams dive as well, yes, but nobody does it to the extent of Portugal. Thierry Henry's penalty was dubious, but there was definite contact. Ronaldo dives around with no contact from other players and no attempt to play the ball. He is a cheat and therefore not worthy of winning this award.

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  • 166.
  • At 06:48 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Bob wrote:

Is it only me who witnessed Luis Figo head butting Holland's Mark van Bommel before going on to play against England. FIFA did not deem this a red card offence despite being an off the ball incident.

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  • 167.
  • At 06:49 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • AS wrote:

I thought yesterday's match was pretty disappointing for several reasons, and not all of them had to do with the quality of play.

Let's start with the Ronaldo booing bit - did anyone else think this was childish and pathetic? Granted, Ronaldo is hardly an ambassador for fair play, and I'm as irked as anybody else with his efforts at winding up Rooney, the head butt before the game started, the winking and the obvious diving. I still don't think that's any reason for the spectators to give him or any other player the equivalent of a public lynching. It was an ugly display more akin to the 1936 Olympics than the 2006 World cup! It didn't stop him being the best portugese player on the pitch anyway.

Then there was all the diving, which reached epic proportions yesterday, but has been present in just about every match. I disagree with anyone who calls this 'trivial' or 'part of the game'. It is only so because as things stand players are likely to get away with it. It HAS to be stamped out for the good of the game and the only way to do this is to to bring video replays into the rules, one way or another.

The game itself: I thought France were the slightly better side because they seemed to have players with at least a remote chance of scoring, unlike Portugal. However their 2nd half tactic of piling bodies into their own half and abandoning ball possession hardly made for impressive play, and unless they step up several gears I believe the Italians will make very short work of them on Sunday.

And finally on to MOTD: like many of you I found the comments to be incredibly daft and Ian Wright wasn't even there! What was that nonsense about the last 16 matches being poor, just after we'd seen the Germany Italy match? Shearer's bit about how many semifinal players would have made it to the England team had me in fits! That they're still talking about the 'golden generation' of English football makes me think that the BBC pundits did not see the Germany Italy game because it was on ITV!

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  • 168.
  • At 07:04 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Gav wrote:

Matt C, I think you should think about what you say before making petty comments. What's Carvalho's first name? You Tw*t

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  • 169.
  • At 07:19 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Pilotasso wrote:

Portugal fan here.

haha, Cristiano Ronaldo...hehe, not my choice though. He needs to mature, althoug hes alot better than hes credited for. Alot of peaple dont like of his individualism.

If I had to choose a player, would be Miguel, whos never mentioned but was a MONSTER defending and launching all of Portugal attacks in virtualy every game he played.

I wouldnt choose any French player, if I had to, I would choose Zidane (duh) but he was a sample of himself compared to the match against brazil.
I would never choose Henry for his "made it easy" Penalties wich gave France 2 victories.

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  • 170.
  • At 07:23 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • SK wrote:

Agree with boscelona in that I am ashamed to be English because of the moronic anti-Ronaldo brigade(typical chav behaviour in my opinion). Rooney is no angel, as many on this site will have already pointed out to you, he deserved to be sent off.If the boot had been on the other foot and it had been Ronaldo stamping on, for example,Gary Neville's privates, don't you think that Rooney would have been one of the first ones up there pressurising the ref to send him off? Grow up, you anti-Ronaldo haters !! you are giving our country a bad name as all the rest of the world will view the people of this country as bitter, sore losers. There is enough crime on our streets now without having the moronic few encouraging spiteful hate campaigns.

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  • 171.
  • At 07:28 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Tim Butdim wrote:

Scots love seeing English lose.

English fans cheer on scotland in tournaments.

Just like England lost, not being able to beat Portugal after 120 minutes of football, and having never been good enough in this tournament (even our commentators were negative from the outset...bloody Motson)...it's the way of the world!

Ronaldo's a cheat. Last night against France showed that. Diving when nobody was near him.

He's the same as many european players. Diving is a cancer that needs banning. FIFA have the pictures. Thay have the power. DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT NOW.

They'd NEVER survive a game of Rugby.

Even Henry's at it now...but then after the Champions League final he did say he would have to learn to dive. It paid off.

Ronaldinho's an exception. His focus is the ball no matter who is kicking/pushing him.

A great player.

That's Ronaldinho...not Ronaldo (the skinny one).

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  • 172.
  • At 07:28 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Matt wrote:

Anyone who thinks Rooney deserves to be sent off can't have watched the video footage - there is no intent there - its not even what even constitutes using the word "STAMP" he does tread on him though.

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  • 173.
  • At 07:28 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Papa wrote:

Something real funny is going on here!!! The English press has been spinning sensational stories about Ronaldo who is obviously a talented boy as way of covering up for a less than inspiring performance from the Engaland team. Lets face it, the writing was on the wall for England even b4 they met Portugal. But of course the english press has found an excuse for the failure of its stars....the best youngest footballer at this years world cup..Ronaldo. Sorry England it could have been Rooney but for his stupidity.

Maybe The press should stop the hype otherwise it may be another 40 years from now before they even reach another semi-final. Right now they are just not even good enuff in the best eight.

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  • 174.
  • At 07:32 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Brian wrote:

The player who put in most effort for his country was C Ronaldo.
If England had players who wanted to win as much as he did, they may have got further in the competition.
However, his effort was not always constructive or in the spirit of the game, else he would be the best young player by far, acclaimed by all.
Portugal were not the only ones who tried to cheat - Holland were worse in the game against Portugal. How Robbing of Chelsea can show his face after the dives he made is beyond me. But then, he earns so much he can't turn that down and diving for Chelsea will be appreciated by their fans as much the Utd fans will apreciate Ronaldo diving for them.

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  • 175.
  • At 07:34 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • bobbylebonfire wrote:

It's finally time to tell all you that 2 DAYS BEFORE THE ENGLAND GAME I was blogging on worlcupblog.org in the english language portugese section(click on flag) They've suspended all comment as there was a really bitter war there..bit like here really, but it sounds bad..! I left days ago because of the homophobic insults.."fag (insert nationality,anybody doesn't agree etc).Anyway, as i woz saying, 2 DAYS B4 GAME certain portugese were circulating a vote for ronaldo amongst portugese sites, just click n vote. Typical, really all this stuff about skewing the vote, blatant diving etc it comes out that certain people, and i'm not generalising that nation have been at it long before us. We're just playing catchup.Vote for wozzizname!

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  • 176.
  • At 07:40 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • lopez wrote:

I find it hilarious that Portuguese fans keep saying that England (mostly Joe Cole) was diving just as much as Ronaldo. I think I watched about 5 mins of the France/Portugal game and he went down about 3 times! Every time he gets the ball he seems to end up on the ground. Sometimes he is genuine...mostly not. People say get over it, Well now Portugal must get over Henry's dive. Ha! Poetic justice if I've ever seen it.
Rooney got sent off because he tried to play English football against the South American style. And with an Argentine ref? of course he got sent off. It seems that everybody dives sometimes at this level of football, but to say that England dives as much as Portugal is laughable.

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  • 177.
  • At 07:47 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Redzer wrote:

I have been an avid fan of the BBC coverage throughout the world cup but i must say recent events have really annoyed me. First it was Eriksson, then Ronaldo...seems to me like it is everybody's fault except the English players themselves. You have to look at the level of expectation you put on your team . Its a joke. Not one player besides possibly terry, and definetedly Rooney have proved themselves as international class players. You may think they are brilliant but just because you think so means they are not. England grow up and give your players backing and less pressure. One more thing, despite Rooney being a world class player it was his fault for being sent off. Can anybody hear dream to imagine what would have happened if Ronaldo had stamped on lampard in the *alls? Stop and realise England are not good enough.

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  • 178.
  • At 07:49 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Mark wrote:

Yes, all those English fans who've voted against Ronaldo are petulent, bitter fools...not a single one would have been someone bored at work trying to find some amusement in an otherwise mind-numbing day at the office.

Ronaldo is the current 'hate figure' because he is this year's best example of a wasted talent. With his flair and technical ability he can beat anyone...and yet his favoured tactic seems to be gamesmanship. And the English have never liked gamesmanship so he is now the target for their derision.

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  • 179.
  • At 07:57 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Rita Simoes wrote:

I'm apalled at what's going on around the votes against C. Ronaldo. That is of a such low level that it makes me sick. How can the English say now that Portugal is a team of cheaters that have no fair play if they're now doing everything but clean game to prevent the scapegoat for their defeat to win that prize (which, in my opinion, he deserves, for all his talent and his strong will in the pitch)? I'm shocked with these senseless feelings of "anti-Portugal" and "anti-Ronaldo", only explained by a bad losing attitude and perhaps a feeling of superiority over a small country named Portugal (I can't find a rational explanation, I'm sorry).

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  • 180.
  • At 07:58 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Marcus wrote:

Oh, this is so funny!
I suspect it's only the red-tops causing all the fuss. I'm sure that, left to their own devices, most genuine English football fans wouldn't care if Ronaldo won the competition or not. Unfortunately it seems most of them read the tabloids and believe what they read. Or are influenced by other people who do to vote in stupid polls.

Yes, I'm English, and gutted we are out, just not an idiot is all!

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  • 181.
  • At 08:01 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Ikechukwu chikwendu wrote:

Let’s face the facts; Rooney’s inclusion in the English squad has been more of a disadvantage than a merit. Inform and cool headed players like Defoe and Bent were left for a player who is recovering from an injury with a blazing temperament.

Isn’t it funny how things change? The person who is supposed to be reprimanded for barbaric stamping and shoving of fellow players has been relegated to the background and protected by the whole English fans and press while a player who protested an inhuman act by a country acclaimed world best striker is now seen as a villain. Different strokes for different folks. If it an English player that was stamped on, I guess the press would have been angling for a life ban.
We should swallow the bitter pills of defeat and stop blaming Ronaldo.

England blew it right from the squad selection (Walcott with zero top level football under his belt making it to the world cup). Two unfit dudes, an average Crouch and one ball boy were selected to deliver the most priced soccer diadem; disaster and it came to pass.

Let us say the truth; save for few guys on the train, our guys weren’t world class. 2010 is around the corner so let’s start building now

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  • 182.
  • At 08:21 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Phil wrote:

I am Greek and an admirer of English football. Not necessarily for its ball handling quality but for its ethical approach to the game. I can never watch 90' of German, Spanish Italian, Dutch or any S. American game but with pleasure I can watch West Brom vs. Southampton. We have to differentiate between politics and ethnic dislikes and enjoy the game. I was stunned to find out that Chelsea fans were disgusted by Drogba's diving last year since anywhere else on the globe they'd be smirking. I am convinced that in 1986 Maradona would have never got a chance to enter the penalty box dribbling past a squad had it been any other team than England, simply because he would have been handed his Achilles' tendons on a platter by some defender. Of course I have seen English players fake but proportionally their offences to the rest of us are miniscule. I also used to admire the Portuguese national team until its disgraceful perofrmance in this World Cup. Several players (Figo, Deco, Maniche, Ronaldo etc.) have reverted to the faking tactics, orchestrated by Scolari, forcing non-existing fouls and suspensions by among other things holding their faces every time someone "fingered" their arms. Shame for a team whose fans I still hold in great respect for applauding us instead of showering with bottles after defeating them in the final 2 years ago. What class!

Bottom line, Ronaldo is part of his team's greater picture; indeed a great player like so many more (Zahovitz, Maradona, Stoichkov etc.) But to be the best player you must be a complete "package", including character, otherwise join a circus to continue your joggling.

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  • 183.
  • At 08:25 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Robert wrote:

i am an england and i am not writing this just because we lost to portugal i am writing this because i think Christiano Ronaldo does not deserve to win the Best Young PLayer Of The Tournment he should win the biggest effin diver yes he may have skill but he is not a good sport.

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  • 184.
  • At 08:31 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Anna wrote:

Come on!!!!Rooney deserved to be sent off. He cannot play football!!. He is too rude and agressive on the ground with no sportive spitit. Cristiano Ronaldo is a very good player who has done a lot for Manchester United (England) and now you want to forget about that. The only thing you have to remember is that he loves his country as much as you love yours. That is why he complained about Rooney´s attitude and that is why you are complaining about him. Leave him alone and boo Rooney for kicking stamping and pushing players.

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  • 185.
  • At 08:31 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • John Wood wrote:

Its pretty clear from these mails (and on other blogs) that English contributors are, very much in the main, stating England were very poor in the World Cup and are not making excuses for the exit. I dont recall England being 'poor losers' (more accurate phrase 'agrieved') when beaten by a better side, fairly. In fact quite the opposite. England had every reason to be agrieved against Portugal for their tactics as they were against Argentina in 98 for Simeons and others tactics. Outside of England (ignore the Scottish) the general concensus is Roonie should have been sent off which I cannot disagree with. But recall his situation. He was being aggressively hounded by two defenders (probably with the intention of winding him up)yet he stayed on his feet and battled on. (What happened to the directive 'to protect the tallented players ref?')I wonder what a Portugese player would have done? We in the UK have the good fortune to see both players regularly and most will agree Roonie is worth 2 or 3 Ronaldos. This episode hopefully will be a useful lesson to Roonie and We will see him rise to be a true world superstar like Zidane.

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  • 186.
  • At 08:54 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Eduardo wrote:

I'm still amazed by the way people talk about Ronaldo's behaviour. If one hadn't seen the match England vs Portugal, would be lead to think Ronaldo is the guy that went mad again, and stepped over brutaly over another player.

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  • 187.
  • At 09:11 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • John Wood wrote:

At the end of the day, Portugal is going to be the loser in all this thanks to their cynical behaviour in the World Cup. I wonder how many English and Dutch people are going to change their future holiday plans with regards to places like the Algarve? Its a shame for the impoverished decent Portugese people who depend upon the tourist trade. All because of spoilt brats who have come to England to earn silly money from English people and then show their gratitude in this awful unsporting behaviour.

Does any English Team fancy buying a Portugese player in the current climate? Scottish Football may welcome them with open arms!

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  • 188.
  • At 09:19 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Syd Sutherland wrote:

I thought I would weight in on the debate regarding Ronaldo and give one point of view from the other side of the Atlantic. And before anyone goes into an anti American rant I am not an American. I for one have thoroughly enjoyed watching the World Cup from exciting games to boring. For the first time all the games have been televised here in Canada. Live in the very early AM and replayed again during prime time. It has been a joy to watch such talented players showing their "stuff" on the world stage. However the thing that bothers the heck out of me and so many North Americans is the behaviour of players such as Ronaldo. Soccer players are seen here as the biggest whimps in professional sports. Touch a player with a feather and he goes down like he's been gut shot by a shotgun and rolls around in performance worthy of an Oscar. Although football, soccer to us, is a world sport it has never gained a large North American following, because of such histrionics. It detracts from the game and such spectacles as a Zidane creating magic and carrying his team when by all accounts he should be collecting his old age pension and rocking away at a retirement home. I hope that someone like Ronaldo matures, Rooney gets a hold of his temper, and will both entertain us for many years to come. I would hope that such talented players would strive to leave behind as their legacy to the sport, great play and sportsmanship rather than petulant displays currently in vogue.

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  • 189.
  • At 09:24 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • zaphodbeeblebrox wrote:

All this brouhaha is typical of the English media and English football fans. Rooney kicked a player below the belt, which is accepted by everyone including Sven the coach, which is despicable. There has hardly been any criticism of him, and the criticism has been focused on his stupidity. It was not stupidity! It was hooliganism and criminal behaviour to inflict serious pain on an opponent. This cannot be censured strongly enough.

Ronaldo's role in this entire thing was very minor given the crime. If the roles had been reversed and Ronaldo had done the stomping and Rooney the pleading you can be assured the British press and fans would have crucified Ronaldo while applauding Rooney. If a player stamps on your team-mate's gooneys what are you supposed to do? Smile and shake his hand because he is your club team-mate?

Now I hear about people rigging the vote on the Young Player of the Tournament and I feel sick at the stupidity and petty vindictiveness that this shows. These people are the ones spoiling the beautiful game and not Ronaldo.

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  • 190.
  • At 09:27 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • tundraboy wrote:

Why are people so impressed with C. Ronaldo's stepovers? Every time he does it the defender just watches him, waits for him to get done, and then continues marking him. His step overs are just a waste of his own energy. It doesn't fool anyone because it's all leg action with a stationary upper body.

Zidane's stepovers on the other hand actually gets the defender bobbing this way than that because Zidane does shoulder and hip feints with his stepovers.

Sorry this isn't exactly on topic but watching C. Ronaldo's stepovers always drives me nuts. He is quick though.

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  • 191.
  • At 09:27 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • bobbylebonfire wrote:

'vote for ronaldo' link circulating on portugese blogs at least 2 days before england game. Who is david valencia? anyone remember him? maybe the ecuadorians had a liitle skewing first off. Then the portugese hijack it, then the scots and finally in come the english, better late than never! And they get to carry the can for it. Doesn't matter, we got bigger population . "wink" - job done! as a previous blogger said.

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  • 192.
  • At 09:29 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Rob Bridden wrote:

I dont blame Ronaldo for our defeat, I blame the manager and the players.

Why I voted against Ronaldo though is for a much more important aspect.

OUR KIDS!!

What will they believe if they see this guy win an award after, diving (many times), remonstrating with referees for cards (many times), tipping the "knowing" wink to his bench, and the lowest of the low, HEAD BUTTING, an opponent from behind, giving himself chance to run off. Compounded by the fact that the opponent in question was a team mate and supposedly friend. For that alone he is a low life, who deserves nothing but grief for his actions.

He may be a terrific talent, but so were the likes of Maradona, Platini, Pele, and still Zidane, but can anyone who has posted here, truly believe any of those GREATS could stoop so low.

Thought not.

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  • 193.
  • At 09:31 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • kwarz1 wrote:

I agree, sad state when the focus of an entire nation is on one players comment to a referee. They act like it made all of the difference in the world. What was the casue of england's inability to advance? Christiano R$onaldo, I dont think so. England played poorly on both ends of the pitch, no inspiration, no finishing. I also agree with the posts abouit Rooney. If one paid any attention to his behaviour during the cup he was complaining, bitching, whining, asking referrees to present cards when he was "fouled" The kid has a bad attitude like those fans who are running some smear campaign against C. Ronaldo. Sure he dives but so do a bunch of other players. Get over it england and start taking reposnsibilities for your own actions (or lack thereof)

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  • 194.
  • At 09:45 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • rachel wrote:

You England fans are really sad, hating on Ronaldo this way, he's a great player with alot of skill, so give praise where it is due please and stop the non-sense.

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  • 195.
  • At 09:54 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Terry wrote:

"He may be a terrific talent, but so were the likes of Maradona, Platini, Pele, and still Zidane, but can anyone who has posted here, truly believe any of those GREATS could stoop so low."

I think Cristiano Ronaldo should get the Nobel peace prize, how else to explain how he can make the english forgive Maradona for the Hand of God and make the English support France.

Tabloids are probably for blame for the english trauma at penalties, you could see the fear on the english penalty takers, what would happen to them if they missed? In this case, nothing, since they lucked out and there is a foreigner to be blamed for winking, it´s the Wink of God, so much more serious than the Hand of God since Maradona was a genius who would not stoop low.

Cristiano Ronaldo really did eliminate England, but it did not happen when Rooney was sent off, it happened when in a very unfriendly crowd he does what he should and scores a penalty. That was his cardinal sin, though of course nothing that can be admitted out loud. Losing is only acceptable if everybody agrees that the other side is the best in the world, so if somebody else does win they must have cheated. And about unbearable smugness, take a good luck at yourself England.

Blame Ronaldo now, don´t demand any change from Rooney and see what happens next time you got a decisive match or a penalty shoot out. I am sure a foreigner will be found to be blamed then as well.

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  • 196.
  • At 09:57 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Schweini 7 wrote:

Ronaldiver is an elegant, skilful player who is a joy to watch when he is staying on his feet. Unfortunately this is not the case a lot of the time.

OK, in the modern game everybody dives. It's part of the game these days - where result can be determined by a free kick or penalty or even having an opponent sent off, players have learned to be more than a little cute when it comes to going down under the softest challenge (Torres v Ukraine), running onto prostrate opponent (Grosso v Australia) or making the most of a genuine clip on the ankles (Henry v Portugal). Ronaldiver however has taken things to new heights - he not only dives, but follows this up with vociferous protests and referee-chasing. We all saw this in the semi-final, where after falling to the floor he went pleading to the referee - and was joined by his coach for good measure. Then there is the Rooney incident which has been done to death.

The Young Player award has now six candidates - who will be rated on style, charisma, fair play and appetite for the game, as well as pure technical skill:

Traquillo Barnetta - had a decent tournament, scoring a cracking goal in thr group phase. However as part of a dour Swiss side, he really didn't have much of a chance to show off his abilities to the full.

Cesc Fabregas - was on the pitch for less than half of Spain's match time, but did make an impression in the group stages. Stands a chance, but Spain's early elimination would rule him out of the reckoning IMO.

Lionel Messi - I think this guy is just there because he is called Lionel Messi. Only played 122 minutes, and despite running rings around a tired Serb defence didn't really do much.

Christiano Ronaldo - did plenty, and showed off his great skill and verve. However he fails miserably on the fair play front. If this guy wins the award I can only conclude that fair play is not that important.

Luis Valencia - I was really impressed with this guy during the first phase games against Poland and Costa Rica, but when it came to taking on tougher opposition he was more or less absent. He was strong and competitive without being dirty, and stands a decent chance.

Lukas Podolski - my choice for the award. No one could match him for sheer enthusiasm - as much as he would make his way into attacking positions he would also make his presence felt in the middle of the park defending. Scored three cracking goals, and was unlucky not to add more to his tally - if he had managed to connect with Odonkor's cross in the semi he would have been a shoo-in. Always had a smile on his face, and represents the new and dynamic face of German football which was born at WC2006.

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the best player award is ment to be to the best player on the pitch. We should not look at what Ronoldo did to rooney, becasue its not a fair play award. Ronoldo is the most talented so please people give the guy some points for his ability, please??

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  • 198.
  • At 10:20 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Schweini 7 wrote:

@ gsm404@bham.ac.uk:

Check out the criteria for the young player award. Fair play is one of them.

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  • 199.
  • At 10:29 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • chris wrote:

Luis Valencia from Ecuador has ALWAYS been the leader in the voting for the best young player. He did get the most votes at the last second, there was no cheating, etc. If you would have done your research you would have seen that he has consistently been at the top of the voting.

So please less sensationalism and more accurate journalism.

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  • 200.
  • At 10:31 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Gary wrote:

England fans (especially the ones who only watch once every two years and even then only in the quarters) always have to blame someone.........http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/euro_2004/3848967.stm

Oh and what about Michael Owen against Argentina in 2002.....no that was never a dive......

Do you really need to blame someone? Maybe you're just not good enough.

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  • 201.
  • At 10:35 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • maverick wrote:

No doubt Ronaldo is extremely talented and he has proved it in this world cup. I dont see any reason why this anti-slogan started against him.
I guess the british media was the one which emphasised much against him after their pathetic display on quarter finals. Englad team does not deserve a place in the 2nd round and they should be glad for what they achieved with their skills. They havent displayed any superior technical football skills like players such as Riquelme, Tevez, Klose, Zidane, Ballack and Messi demonstrated. In a way England is responsible for whatever they got and finding a scape goat in a budding player like Ronaldo to vent out their agony is mere stupidity.

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  • 202.
  • At 10:48 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • bobbylebonfire wrote:

can anyone here READ? Portugese were circulating a "vote ronaldo" link to fifa over a week ago. I know because i saw it on a portugese blog. So who are the hypocrites now? Pathetic sqealing demeans you all. Hypocrites!

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  • 203.
  • At 11:02 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • sk wrote:

Unfortunately the whole Rooney/ Ronaldo affair even made my portugese friend fearful that I would not speak to her again because of the vindictive comments she had heard about from the English media( I am English). Fortunately I do not have the small minds that many "so called" English fans have in being spiteful enough to set up a campaign to deliberately try and prevent Ronaldo winning the award.I will quite happily be visiting Portugal in a few weeks and will not let a stupid, unnecessary vendetta against a player ruin a good friendship!

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  • 204.
  • At 11:04 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Kristiano Monaldo wrote:

England need to stop blaming Ronaldo and face it they arent good enough. If we England had a player like Ronaldo in the squad we would of far.

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  • 205.
  • At 11:30 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • franck wrote:

maybe ronaldo is a disgrace to football but this anti-ronaldo hate campain is a disgrace to the human nature
you must be proud to destroy a 21 years old kid like this?

after that dont ask why people hate englang so much

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  • 206.
  • At 11:50 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Rob Parker wrote:

Dear God!!

Why are u trying to kill the boy? Do u want him to leave? Do u think he'll even care? Don't u people realize there are lots of great clubs waiting for just that? Clubs ready to offer more money and, who knows, better roads to his success. England needs great players. Where would we be without the foreign superstars? Think for a minute! The kid will grow into another Figo. Do u remember what Figo was like in his star days? He was trated as a god in Spain. Cristiano is going there.Give the kid a break! We're givin' the world an image of sore loosers...

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  • 207.
  • At 11:53 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • Anne wrote:

This is a classic case of sour grapes if I ever heard one. If Wayne Rooney had ever played in a pickup match with the likes of say, Vinnie Jones (another notorious attacker of private parts), and kicked HIM in the "groin area", Wayne would not only have a red card, but a spinal cord injury resulting from the worst beating ever received. He should consider himself fortunate. Undoubtedly, Ronaldo was behaving like a big baby in every way (what a shocker for a 20 year old kid.) But if you want to blame someone, blame FIFA. Their insistence at being much more stringent with penalties awarded and more liberal with yellow and red cards has led to all this ridiculous and effeminate overacting just to get the call. Some of these guys don't belong on a pitch, they belong in Hollywood.

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  • 208.
  • At 11:54 PM on 06 Jul 2006,
  • MCardodo wrote:

Maybe Ronaldo will not win the award, but England definitely already won the "worst LOSERS in the world" award. Congratulations on such bad attitude.

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  • 209.
  • At 12:05 AM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • Gareth Bennett wrote:

The whole 'let's vote against Ronaldo' thing is just s bit of fun and a way for supporters to get involved, so why not? Jorge said that Rooney deserved to be sent off - what about Luis Figo and his blatant head butt on Van Bommel? He should never have faced England. The ref of the Portugal v Holland match was criticised for over-zealous use of the cards, but from what I saw, all the Portugese ones were deserved. In fact, Costinha should have got another yellow before his handball for a crude ankle kick, and Deco should have got a straight red for his deliberate hack, and been banned for 3 games. True, the ref missed the high challenge on Ronaldo but he also missed the one on Robben.
The France game should have seen at least 2 yellows for Portugese diving, especially a blatant one in the penalty area. Yet afterwards, Scolari went off screaming at the ref and Ronaldo whinged on about how the ref was biased in favour of the French. Portugal play good football and have very skilful players but as long as they dive and playact, they'll be criticsed for it. Obviously, they're not the only one at it, but it does seem to be part of their game. I just wish that FIFA would do something about instead of simply talking; retrospective punishments should be handed out. It's often too difficult for a ref to judge a dive or a feigned injury in a game. Also, stop handing out yellows for silly, trivial things. Who cares if a player celebrates by taking his shirt off? If players know they can others sent off, they'll play up to that.

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  • 210.
  • At 12:21 AM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • Jonathan wrote:

Funny how the English always seem to blame someone other than themselves for chokeing. Australia went out of the world cup to a blatant dive which broke our hearts, but you dont see us carrying on like pork-chops. Well done, your offially (once again), the worlds worst losers and biggest bunch of whingers at the WC....still, at least that means you win something!

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  • 211.
  • At 12:21 AM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • Stusy wrote:

Ronaldo is a good player and deserves the best young player. Just because he went over to the ref when your precious rooney got sent off and ronaldo said something to the ref. You just need a scapegoat to cover up Englands poor performance. He may fall over a few times but he is still a very good player. Also if you didnt notice he wasnt the only 1 who was going to ground easily but he's the only 1 who gets criticised. Honestly who wants a brilliant prospect for footballing future to be taken away from british football thats up to you but it would be a waste.

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  • 212.
  • At 12:22 AM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • Stusy wrote:

Ronaldo is a good player and deserves the best young player. Just because he went over to the ref when your precious rooney got sent off and ronaldo said something to the ref. You just need a scapegoat to cover up Englands poor performance. He may fall over a few times but he is still a very good player. Also if you didnt notice he wasnt the only 1 who was going to ground easily but he's the only 1 who gets criticised. Honestly who wants a brilliant prospect for footballing future to be taken away from british football thats up to you but it would be a waste.

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  • 213.
  • At 12:31 AM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • Anonymous wrote:

Most of you just go on about Cheating Ronaldo, Cheating Portuguese. not criticising anyone else, oh wait England got beat by Portugal so they are the worst, the whole bad loser thing makes you cast a blind eye over the other players and teams and focus mostly on the team who knocked you out, woop dee doo you got beat, get over it, it happens, you obviously werent good enough, look at it from our point of view in Scotland, expect defeat and you've gt nothing to lose. Its a lot easier than expecting the impossible.

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  • 214.
  • At 12:51 AM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • juzfahted wrote:

the world cup is over for England get over it!!
Do you think a few people from England voting will make that much diffrnce when this is a global vote?
As i say as an English man get over it!!!

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  • 215.
  • At 12:53 AM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • juzfahted wrote:

From an english man ...GET OVER IT!!!!! WHY DO WE NEED A SCAPEGOAT WHEN WE HAVE ONE ALREADY

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  • 216.
  • At 12:55 AM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • Sandra wrote:

What’s all the fuss around Cristiano Ronaldo!! Is he England’s scapegoat for having lost the match? You criticise his behaviour, but then you fans act like a herd of sheep baaing. Is that acceptable?
You don’t know us Portuguese. Pressure just makes us better (sometimes…)

By the way is WC for water closet?:)

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  • 217.
  • At 01:01 AM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • daz wrote:

I can't defend Ronaldo at all- his antics against France were a real shame. No worse than much of what we see in the premiership mind, but he let football down in one of its showcase games. Having said that, his unsporting behaviour against England didn't come close to having a big enough influence on the result to warrant the media hysteria. Rooney was always going to get a red and surely the tabloids should be questioning why Beckham, Lampard and Gerrard failed miserably to repeat their club form rather than spreading hate against this year's scapegoat. Satirical take on tabloid hysteria: http://www.deadbrain.co.uk/news/article_2006_07_04_5227.php

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  • 218.
  • At 01:05 AM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • james wrote:

i think its a disgrace that ronaldo has been voted off top spot, im an england and i understand why english fans want ronaldo off the top, but still there is no doubt he is one of the or possibly the best winger in the world and i am personally disgusted at the email that has been sent around. also im not a man u fan, in fact im a man city fan but i still think its disgusting what has happend to ronaldo bothon and off the pitch, i feel for the lad and im so glad he played well against france despite exiting the world cup.

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  • 219.
  • At 02:26 AM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • joninoz wrote:

Alot of people in Australia I know are also frutrated by Ronaldo(Portugal) more so regards his antics in the Semi-Final. He is of great talent but the diving is a joke, he is not alone. I saw nothing in the Quarter Final nor the Semi Final to make me vote for him. There were quite a few youth players in the German team.

PS sick of hearing the whinging english and scots on the forums. can you guys get a life you both have huge chips on your shoulders. Culloden was years ago mate.

Viva Italia

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  • 220.
  • At 02:36 AM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • jay casta wrote:

The blast against Ronaldo is the typical "winging pom" mentality. Instead of looking at the violent actions of their golden boy Ronney (the stamp on Carvalho's tomatoes) and assess their failure objectively at the world cup once again, instead they've gone for a scape-goat, Ronaldo, who has been by far the best young player ("BYP") of the tournament. He deserves all the accolades and will undoubtedly and deservedly so be voted the BYP at this world cup. It could have been your Rooney, had he not shown his violent tendencies once again.

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  • 221.
  • At 02:56 AM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • Maria wrote:

All you English are just sore losers!

The more you attack Ronaldo, the stronger he gets...

As for Man U not renewing his contract--my golly--there've been talks about a Real Madrid transfer long before this year's World Cup. Duh!

To Ronaldo and the rest of the Portugal team: Your defeat against France was a disgrace... You had a chance and you didn't take it. You were so close... But despite all that, im still cheering you on. You made me believe Portugal could make it... thank you Scolari for the memories!

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  • 222.
  • At 03:05 AM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • Shaun wrote:

In the end, we've got to remember; it's just a football game. Why do people get so wound up about it and the cheating and the stuff that goes on. Personally, I do like football and I did watch the world cup, but really... there are lines to be drawn. For a start, we put so much hope into 23 players (ordinary people like ourselves, doing their job. how many of you lot out there can claim to have done their job to a 100% standard every single time?), that's got to be hard enough as it is. Secondly, we form a degree of hate when something doesn't go our way. Yes, Wayne Rooney stood on Carvahlo, regardless of whether it was purposeful or not. And yes, Ronaldo did not need to get involved with the ref. But for heavens sake, what's happened has happened and it's in the past. Learn to get on with it. Stop living in the past and look forward to the next european cup. Even if England went out of the World Cup a little unfairly, deal with it. Life goes on. Ronaldo may not have made himself popular with his pretty-boy antics, but he's only, what, 20 years old? He's still a kid. Kids do that. He's got a lot of talent, but just needs to grow up a bit. Once he grows up and learns a bit of sportsmanship then i believe he can go a long way.
Thirdly, I think for starters that for any of the Scottish people who started to boycott the vote are extremely pathetic. For starters, you didn't even make it to the World Cup! Don't take it out on England. Jealousy is a terrible thing. But for the English fans to retaliate by boycotting the vote further is just fuel for the fire. It's not doing any justice and is only going to make relations worse between the countries. It's pathetic and childish. At the end of the day, these players that everyone is basing their opinions on are just ordinary people. Sure, Ronaldo hasn't helped himself and he's bound to get stick when he gets back to England, but just open your eyes a little people. Realise.

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  • 223.
  • At 03:19 AM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • Sam wrote:

Nice to see Ronaldo took it well after losing to France...

"Everyone who saw the match could see that the referee wasn't fair.

"He should have shown yellow cards but he did not because Portugal is a small country.

"We just have to carry on working and then we will be a big country."

hahahahaha

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2006/teams/portugal/5153086.stm

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  • 224.
  • At 03:29 AM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • Gordon Sutcliffe wrote:

It seems that this blog is getting seriously hijacked as a 'offloading-our-hatred-of-the-English' blog.

This blog is about Ronaldo and the FIFA young player vote. So I wonder why so many posts seem to diverge and give us diatribes about the English, English players, and Rooney. First of all, whether Rooney was guilty of anything more than losing his balance in a sandwich of two players kicking him around is open to debate; unless you are telepaths, keep it shut. Secondly, Rooney was sent off, and nobody except a tiny minority (probably the English equivalent of anti-English racists on this board) suggested that the referee made the wrong decision; whether it was an accident or not, it DID look bad, and from appearances the referee was right to send him off; very few have complained about this, so once again, those saying that we blame the referee because we're "whinging poms" or whatever, you're making up phantom arguments. Similarly, I don't remember anybody but Beckham taking the brunt of the nation's bitterness in '98. Have we changed so much since then? You're just looking for excuses to have a go at the English, and stooping to the level of what you think you are criticising in doing so. But when all is said and done, all of that is irrelevant. The debate is about the antics of the Portuguese and Ronaldo in particular, regardless of whether England won or lost, or of the merits of Rooney's sending off. If you want to debate the English fans, players, and Rooney, do it elsewhere. Has this all been put into sharper focus because England were victims of it? Of course it has Einstein! What's the problem with this? Do people not suddenly lead political or fundraising campaigns when they are a victim of a crime or a disease? Putting the evils of the world into sharper focus is not wrong, whatever the motive. Wanting to see punishment for wrongdoers is not whinging. There has been other cheating at the World Cup and we have been equally disgusted by it; we even cringed at the odd dive from the English. Herein lies the difference, we cringe, we feel ashamed; where latins say 'nice one, well done'.
In summary:
* THE ENGLISH HAVE NOT SCAPEGOATED RONALDO FOR THEIR LOSS, FIND AN ARTICLE THAT SUGGESTS THIS BEFORE JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS!
* YOU DO NOT KNOW ROONEY'S INTENTIONS IN PUTTING HIS FOOT DOWN AND IS, IN ANY CASE, IRRELEVANT TO THE DEBATE OF PLAY-ACTING AND RONALDO'S OWN BEHAVIOUR.
* NOBODY HAS CRITICISED THE REFEREE.
* DO NOT POST COMMENTS ABOUT THE ENGLISH AND PORTUGUESE IN GENERAL UNLESS YOU WISH TO OPEN A BROADER DEBATE ABOUT THE ENTIRE MORALITY OF A NATION. CRITICISING ENGLISH TAXPAYERS IN PORTUGAL AND CONDEMNING THE WHOLE NATION FOR IT IS EXTREMELY NARROW-MINDED.
* THE ENGLISH "DO" ACCEPT THAT THEY LOST DUE TO THEIR TACTICAL FRAILTIES AND LACK OF QUALITY, AND TOOK THE LOSS ITSELF PERFECTLY GRACEFULLY. IT SHOWS YOUR SENSE OF PERSPECTIVE IF YOU CONSIDER US WORSE LOSERS THAN ARGENTINA V. GERMANY AND THE PORTUGUESE THEMSELVES AFTER THEIR LOSS (PARTICULARLY SCOLARI). THE DISGUST AT PORTUGUESE ANTICS IS COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT TO THE LOSS AND IS INDIGNANCE TO THE ABUSE OF FAIR PLAY, NO MORE NO LESS AS AN ENTIRELY SEPARATE ISSUE TO THE RESULT OF THE GAME. SO, YES, JONATHAN YOUR COMMENTS ARE COMPLETELY GROUNDLESS AND BORN OF YOUR OWN ANTI-ENGLISH RACISM. IF YOU SPOKE SPANISH YOU WOULD HAVE READ THE COMMENTS FROM THE ARGENTINIANS WHO ARE STILL BEMOANING THE HOMER REFEREE, SAYING THEY ARE THE STILL THE BEST TEAM, AND GERMANY ARE NOT EVEN 1/10 THE TEAM THEY ARE; BUT YOU CHOOSE ONLY TO FOCUS ON THE ENGLISH.

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  • 225.
  • At 03:50 AM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • Michael wrote:

I love this stuff...you English fans are great. I see nothing wrong with hating someone who partially contributed to your WC exit. Although the sending off appeared 100% justified, it is entertaining to see the postamble.
As an outsider, I believe that English football will never improve until they address their lack of skill relative to the rest of the strong football nations. Really, focusing on Ronaldo as the reason for their exit is a true diversion. It probably would be more productive to look at their way overhiped striker who throws little tantrums and accounts for an overwhelming total of 0 goals.
The indignation is amusing and shows a great passion for football but ultimately it is a symptom of the greater delusion that the English have about their competitiveness. It is as if English supporters believe they would have gone through had this terrible injustice not occurred. Alas they did not and Ronaldo had his best performance of the tournament...he probably gets a kick out of this too.

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  • 226.
  • At 04:32 AM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • Ashley wrote:

What are the English crying about , they lost fair and square it does not matter who played a better game , the only thing that matters is who gets the ball in the back of the net and the english players were pathetic in the penalty shoot out , and why all this cry about Ronaldo he did nothing wrong , why don't the english fans ask that Rooney guy if he knows the meaning about sportmanship or is he just the same as the drunken english fans who surprisingly do not say a word when Ronaldo does the same when playing for MAN U , come on you English learn how to defeat in your stride

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  • 227.
  • At 06:04 AM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • alan wrote:

Firstly, Rooney did not deserve to be sent off against portugal. He was the one who was being fouled in the build up to the incident and the so called 'stamp' was no such thing. Look at the footage again, Rooney's only focus was on retaining possession of the ball. He was being fouled lost his balance and his foot went out to support himself. Rooney himself denies any wrongdoing and is willing to take any ban that fifa dish out rather than admit to something he didn't do.

Secondly the ref did not send rooney off for the so called 'stamp'. Again watch the footage and it is obvious the referee has no intention of isuing a card until Ronaldo intervenes. It was the push that the referee sent Rooney off for and in it is my belief that the referee saw a replay of the incident realised he had made a mistake and rewrote history by claiming it was the 'stamp' that Rooney was carded for.

As for Ronaldo, as gifted as he is his actions (and those of the portuguese team in general) have been detrimental to the supposedly beautiful game. Diving, rolling around, the clutching of faces as though they have been hit, haranguing referees, waving imaginary cards to get opponents sent off all common place at this world cup and all completely disgusting and against the laws and spirit of the game.

You can moan about the English and the stereotypes that go with it but the English premier league is widely regarded as the fairest and cleanest in world football. Yes the huge rise in the import of foreign footballers has seen an increase in diving/simulation but on the whole these incidants are few and far between and the large majority of fans would not stand for it becomin g anymore widespread.

I'm afraid that Ronaldo only has himself to blame, headbutting an opponent before a game and telling them that you are going to get them sent off is way beyond decent behaviour. I think ronaldo deserves everything he gets at the moment and i feel if would be a travesty if the young player of the tournament was someone who plays the game in such spirit. What message does that send out to our children, those playing football at grass roots. Do we want them to believe that in order to be successful they need to cheat.

i would encourage people to vote against ronaldo and the fifa technical committee to do likewise and help maintain the integrity of our game.

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  • 228.
  • At 07:25 AM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • Cesc4president wrote:

Where were all you guys when Henry dived against Spain?? Or when Figo dived against Bularouz or head butted van Bommel??? Why do you arrogant isle inhabitants start crying in the moment u get kicked out even if you deserve it cause you DIDN´T score? Bad bad ronaldo the bad bad boy who has so much influence on refs. that he can give red cards to opponent players! Come on wake up you lost because in your terrific league that you always call best League in the World (even though again you didn´t won anything)the best strikers are foreigners and your home growns like Owen, Crouch and Walcott are one hit wonders. Who is saying now that ronaldo shouldn´t come back if he doesn´t want his ass kicked?? Isn´t it Rooney?? What a great sportsmen.. again boxing himself through like when he was a streetkid.

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  • 229.
  • At 07:50 AM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • John Barbosa wrote:

This is really disgusting.

So the reality is that:
Mr Rooney is a known example of fairness and a truly sportsman, just look into his past record on the premiership, a gentleman he is.
Mr Rooney never kicked R.Carvalho’s testicles, NO SIR, that was a n invention of the jealous Ronaldo.
Mr. Rooney doesn’t have a temper, NO SIR, he’s not a bully, NO SIR!
Ronaldo complained about an aggressive FOUL against a team mate, so what? Is this wrong? or this is all about Mr Rooney’s the image as the modern English bully, therefore his frantic on the pitch are OK?
He cannot be accused of anything?


so much for the fair play, is the English way? Can’t accept they were defeated by a much better team?
Now I understand why worldwide whenever you say English you read hooligan.
It’s just a game.
Btw, It is not after Ronaldo that Real Madrid is after, they got it all wrong, what they are desperate to sign is a lame and sqaured footballer by the name of Wayne “bull” Rooney.

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  • 230.
  • At 08:21 AM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • Bill wrote:

Nice to see yet another blog turned into an excuse for morons to vent their anti-English bile. I'm not voting for Ronaldo, not because I think he had anything to do with Rooney's sending off, because he didn't. I'm not voting for Ronaldo because he is a cheat and a diver and has been since he joined English football a few years ago. I'd hate to see any award go to him when other young players such as Podolski, Messi or Fabregas have played a much more honest game.

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  • 231.
  • At 08:23 AM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • ihaterooney wrote:

That's absolutely pathetic! What would you have done in the same circumstances when you saw your fellow countryman being stepped on the groin? Would you simply walk off without feeling a little bit furious? I could imagine the English player doing exactly the same thing (if not worse) if they see a Portugese player did the same to their mates! All those things about Ronaldo demand a card from Ref was shameful, a bad reflection on the English fans in general. That just means you cannot accept defeat and the fact that your star striker was acting like a wild bull. In the eyes of the neutral (I right am), you should be ashamed of your star striker for what he did at that situation. Striker is often closely marked and if the revenge was to step on someone's groin rather than scoring against the opponent, that I would consider a behaviour of a loser. A campaign of "rooneythecoward" should be more appropriate.

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  • 232.
  • At 08:38 AM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • Mark wrote:

Ronaldo chose to get involved with wayne ronney being sent off he then winked at the bench as if to say "nice one". If he hadnt of got involved and instead been like how a team mate should be and gave rooney some sympathy in being sent off. The ref did nothing in the previous 10 seconds when rooney was being spun left and right etc by three different players. I think ronaldo should be loaned out to a division two side and made to apologise in front of fans how not to treat a team mate.

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  • 233.
  • At 08:50 AM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • James wrote:

Post # 57 is excellent.

And I'm a Londoner.

And he's clearly Argentine.

But a great post!

It's about time we english stopped crying into our pints and directed our energy towards the FA.

The Sven Years have been a vast waste of talent.

The McClaren Years will be the same.

Bring back attacking football.

Bring back Terry Venables!

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  • 234.
  • At 09:44 AM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • joely111 wrote:

Ronaldo is a great player. He is definately guilty of unsporting behaviour in trying to influence the referee, but that is the same unsporting behaviour visable in plenty of premiership games. Has the great John Terry never complained to a referee? And Ronaldo's team mates were Portugese on that day, not Man U.

This is just part of the game now, and making Ronaldo guilty for a common failing is reactionary and childish.

So he winked. Big stars have big egos, and a cocky atitude goes with it. I can learn to live with that, sooner than I can a kick in the balls. How easy it is to gang up on a kid, all tabloid guns blazing, whilst the true villain rides off with 24 million quid in his saddlebags, leaving his talentless sidekick in charge.

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  • 235.
  • At 10:03 AM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • boris radek wrote:

Cristiano Ronaldo is a good player, skilled technician and deserves the nomination as the "Best young player of the World Cup".
This campaign is originated by the british bitternes for being sent off by Portugal.

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  • 236.
  • At 10:31 AM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • San wrote:

didnt read all the comments on here now just the blog.. I already voted for the best young player before the whole Ronaldo incident.. already voted for Cesc Fabregas long before and I think its really good that the FIFA named him from their side cause I thought he was truly outstanding and hope that he will stop in Arsenal!

As for Ronaldo: the Fifa wrote on their homepage its not only about the playing but also about fairplay so if Ronaldo would win it would be a farce.. Me will keep my fingers crossed for Fabregas, he deserves it! Great talent!

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  • 237.
  • At 10:54 AM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • Giddy wrote:

Royston Vasey seems to have a problem with me. The point I have made about Ronald O is that like Maradona, he is a wonderfully talented footballer who should be a role model to youngsters, but because of his behaviour, he is not someone I would want my children to admire - unlike other players such as Zidane.

I didn't mention the wink, sunshine. His general demeanor gives that away. Or were you too busy being a smart ar$e to spot that?

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  • 238.
  • At 11:33 AM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • Giddy wrote:

The most ironic thing I spotted on Wednesday was the sight of a Portugal player being treated by the physio. The FIFA logo on the physio's bag was 'OUR GAME IS FAIR PLAY.'

The diving of the Portugal players was disgraceful on Wednesday and you don't need to be an England fan to spot that. Portugal have had wonderful players for some years now. All they have needed is a goalscorer - perhaps they want penalties instead. Exactly what did they bring to this World Cup?

At least two great teams are contesting the final.

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  • 239.
  • At 11:37 AM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • San wrote:

Just read that Podolski won the Award for Best Young Player... I personally still think Fabregas made an even better impression but I think its a good choice out of those 6 who were left..

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  • 240.
  • At 11:59 AM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • Giddy wrote:

Good on Podolski!

Perhaps conduct and fair play does mean something to FIFA after all. Hopefully Ronaldo will lose these less savoury elents of his game and in time become someone we can admire and fear for his talent and not dislike for his conduct.

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  • 241.
  • At 01:07 PM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • Khalid wrote:

I think England fans are foolish to think it was Ronaldo's fault that they lost. The England team is rubbist and can't play football in a high pressure situation. Sore losers. I recieved that email and instantly voted for Ronaldo - not out of spite, but because (bar Messi) he's the best on the list. Yes, better than your failed "idol" Rooney.

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  • 242.
  • At 01:30 PM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • ciggy wrote:

my gods you scots are bitter little people sitting up there in the freezing cold in the rain with your ginger hair and kilts. Its not our fault you never qualify for anything now is it.

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  • 243.
  • At 02:10 PM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • Giddy wrote:

Khalid - you wouldn't have been a supporter of Brazil would you - and now switching to Pakistan for the cricket series by any chance?

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  • 244.
  • At 02:16 PM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • Stuart Pritchard wrote:

Hey Ciggy post 243

Please dont tar all of us scots with the same brush (the same brush I suspect was used on you). There are 5 million scots and only a few have contributed to this discussion and only some of those have been as stupid as you. Rascism is wrong, why should I and my nation be insulted by you because you dont like the comments of a few individuals. Im appalled by both English and Scottish people on this blog and generally throughout the world cup. Please take time to read all the posts and realise that its not only Scots who are complaining about a minority of English but people from all over the world.

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  • 245.
  • At 03:15 PM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • lala wrote:

First of all, try to watch again the game of Portugal against Holland! You’ll see who started the violence in the game! Then, and after the red cards, try to imagine a competitive game with 9 players in both teams without fouling...in my opinion is impossible! Then, Ronaldo had no fault in Rooney's red card…You can only blame Rooney! Oh, and by the way, cheating in FIFA's best young player just to kick Ronaldo's ass is so so low! I never thought English people were like that! You make me sick!
And against France, well I think that Henry was already falling when Ricardo Carvalho touched him...but that doesn't matter anymore! We lost, and that is ok for Portuguese people! We are proud of our team. Not because they reached the semi-finals but because they tried to honour our country. And they made it!
I'm just sad because Figo will not get the trophy he certainly deserves for his entire career. Oh and mad because of those who put the Portuguese football with "bad name". Portuguese are not savage, violent (as people and as soccer players) or other things that you say! And we can handle with any team. If we lose, well then we lost! And you should think the same way...

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  • 246.
  • At 04:21 PM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • Gordon Sutcliffe wrote:

I must say I'm getting tired of reading so many posts tinted with hatred and racism against the English. Is this really the mentality of the people here? You come to a British website, search out blogs where you can have a go at the English, and vent your spleen with rabid hatred. If the English are so sickening, what exactly are you doing here, doing exactly the same thing as the butt of your criticism? Being impartial, subjective, and blind to the misdemeanours of your own football team and nation (which in any case is irrelevant as we're talking about the football teams, not the people). Quite why there is a need for some of you to come on here and call us all hooligans is quite beyond me. It lends no credit to arguments when the arguer speaks with barbaric hatred, racism, insults an entire country of people while disregarding the defects of their own.

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  • 247.
  • At 04:30 PM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • vidya wrote:

im so disapointed with the english fans, instead of focusing on why their superstars failed ,they have made a scrapegoat of poor ronaldo. It was a straight red for rooney and he deserved it too.and y single out ronaldo , beacause they beat england? how many times have we seen joe cole dive , i can remember many. and what about Henry , we know he dived against spain n the penalty agaist portugal was a clear case of playacting, but will he be booed , no he will be given a heros welcome in arsenal i suppose. This kind of double standard is so sad. And im really sad that ronaldo didnt win the award , i think he was much better and influential then podolski

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  • 248.
  • At 04:51 PM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • Gordon Sutcliffe wrote:

Vidya, your post is completely pointless, but it is representative of all the anti-English posts here:

1. Instead of focusing on why their superstars failed >>> the failure of our superstars is an entirely separate issue and has been under just as much scrutiny; there is room in our papers for both issues believe it or not.
2. They have made a scapegoat of poor Ronaldo. "Poor" Ronaldo has not been made a scapegoat at all. The English accept they lost fair and square, the behaviour of the Portuguese is an entirely separate issue. As a United fan before an England fan first and foremost I felt ashamed that one of my club's players was capable of scheming against his own teammate.
3. A straight red for Rooney. Yes. Who has questioned this? Tell me. Who? Don't put words into our mouths.
4. He deserved it. Well, you don't know his intentions so don't jump to conclusions.
5. Joe Cole diving. Yes, the English are starting to dive more and more, but don't say it's the same as the five blatant dives in the penalty area during the France game, the constant hounding of the referee, and the constant theatre of "players" on the floor.
6. Henry. He has also been criticised. But this is the first time we have seen Henry do anything like that in a very long time. Ronaldo makes a living out of it.
7. Henry's penalty against Portugal: Do you have super slow-mo replays in Portugal? Carvalho clearly kicked Henry's standing leg and even though Henry tried to continue running his balance had been compromised and could not stay on his feet. It is unbelievable subjectivity not to be able to see this in the replay.

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  • 249.
  • At 05:05 PM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • jjr89 wrote:

Those that say Ronaldo doesn't dive much are talking B.S.

Did you see the french match?

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  • 250.
  • At 05:17 PM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • Alex wrote:

Its amazing that the one country, who more than any other, owed its sole world Cup triumph to refereeing errors should be the one to hold forth and lecture the rest of us on the evils of cheating and refereeing incompetence.

Can anybody imagine the reaction if England lost a world cup final to Argentina by a goal that did not cross the line, that never was - the sheer bedlam and hysteria that would explode around our heads. In the 1966 Quarter final between Argentina and England, Argentina had to play with 10 men because the Referee sent off the Argentine captain Rattin (in a match where English fouls doubled Argentine ones) because he ‘ did not like the look on his face’ and because Rattin was allegedly insulting a referee who later on admitted to not understanding a word of Spanish.

Imagine the English reaction if Beckham had been sent off for abusing, in English, a referee who later admitted to not speaking or understanding a word of it.

The English are the spoilt, petulant and inadequate children of international football. Not once in 40 years of mediocrity have they ever admitted to loosing a tournament game because they played a better side, not once have they ever had the grace to congratulate their conquerors, there is always an excuse, always a whinge, always a hate figure to divert attention from their lack of any real ability to play good football. English football is a joke. The English now hate the Portuguese not because of their so called antics, but because the Iberians who they would rather patronise have cleaned the floor with them three times now in the last 6 years, Euro 2000, Euro 2004 and now this world cup - what a record. Portugal have produced Figo, a former world player of the year, respected throughout the game who has led his country, a small modest south European nation to the last 4 of at least 3 competitions, England have produced David Beckham, better known for his hair not playing style, who has led his country, one of the richest in the world, from one underachievement to the other.

Portugal have Ronaldo, a a fine winger with pace, trickery and above all courage, England have Rooney, a one trick pony (all he ever does is try and shoot from outside the box or barge his way through it) overrated and over hyped. Ronaldo will achieve great things in Spain, Rooney will spend the rest of his days bullying the likes of Charlton and Bolton and striving for red cards in major tournaments when confronted with good defenders (who can pocket mediocre and overrated strikers), so all the post match talk will not be about how average he really is but how ‘’his temperament let the great genius down’.

Then again he is also very likely to end up in prison. Lets face it he does look like a convict.

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  • 251.
  • At 05:22 PM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • Stuart Pritchard wrote:

Gordon Sutcliffe

Why cant you just accept that most of the world think that Rooney deserved to be sent off for violent behaviour on the football pitch while Ronaldo is being made a scapegoat cos he dared to encourage the ref, which we see players of EVERY nation do in every game these days.

The problem that we have is that a pathetic minority of english 'football fans' tried to rig a vote against someone who they childishly blame for their team going out of the WC. Dont call ronaldo a cheat for diving or speaking to the ref and then justify someone else doing the same Diving is diving, cheating is cheating whether its Ronaldo, Cole, Terry or Henry!! its all the same!!!! .

The ire is aimed at the minority of big babies who just cant stand losing again!!! This is just Maradonna, Koeman etc all over again. Well guess what....it happens to everyone elses teams too!!!. Stop banging on about for years and years and thinking that we should all agree. The rest of us just have a grumble and forget about it. It is just a bloody game!!!

Re read all of these blogs and you will see plenty of hatred and racism directed towards nations other than england too!!!!

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  • 252.
  • At 06:16 PM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • tom wrote:

Good job not too many peoople in Scotland have internet access then hey ;) Podolski was easily the best young player anyway. Ronaldo had a very average group stage, an average game punctuated by cheating against England, then one good game against France but again lots of diving in that game. We are sending the right message out to young kids playing the game... Podolski is an honest hard working bright young player. Scotland....will we ever see you at a World or Euro Cup again?.... I doubt it :)

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  • 253.
  • At 07:26 PM on 07 Jul 2006,
  • Gordon Sutcliffe wrote:

Stuart Pritchard. I shouldn't waste my breath on people that are quicker at having a go at the English than they are at seeking reason. If you had done the latter you would have read in my last post: "A straight red for Rooney. Yes. Who has questioned this? Tell me. Who? Don't put words into our mouths." From appearances Rooney deserved to be sent off, I have always said this and nothing to the contrary. Learn to read. What you and I and nobody but God knows is what Rooney's real intentions are, and given that putting his foot down to keep his balance is just as plausible an explanation as a stamp on Carvalho, who are we to pass divine judgement? Don't be so arrogant that you think you are in possession of all the "facts".

The problem you're having with some English voting against Ronaldo is exactly the same problem that put him there in the first place: an intense campaign from people of your own nation who have adopted Ronaldo as their national hero; if that's not childish then I don't know what is. At least the English can support their actions as a form of delivering what they see as justice; while the Scottish can only look back to age-old hatred and anti-English invective base in the modern day on nothing in particular.

To say that all cheating is the same is like saying that all crimes are the same, wouldn't the legal system be so much simpler if that were true. Again, if you read my posts properly you will see that I have accepted that English players have cheated themselves, but you haven't read my posts properly have you. So what is your point exactly? Let's try again shall we:"Joe Cole diving. Yes, the English are starting to dive more and more, but don't say it's the same as the five blatant dives in the penalty area during the France game, the constant hounding of the referee, and the constant theatre of "players" on the floor." It's really bizarre that you have made up so many points that are contradicted quite clearly in my last post. Ronaldo a scapegoat? No, he's been vilified, but not at any time has anyone said he was guilty for England's exit. People, stop making things up. God, I'm getting tired of arguing with such small-minded buffoons who argue about what they think you say and not what you actually say.

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  • 254.
  • At 12:14 AM on 08 Jul 2006,
  • José wrote:

Yes, that`s true! Ronaldo is the man!The British were really cheated by one broken foot superstar(????)man: Rooney !
By the way: it wasn`t the last time you`ll loose a game against us!
You should be ashammed about the campaign you made against Ronaldo: the more you shout the GREATER he`ll be. It`s difficult to see that?
Mercy on you!

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  • 255.
  • At 09:05 AM on 08 Jul 2006,
  • Frazer Watts wrote:

Ronaldo and the Portugese team are a disgrace to football FIFA should ban them for a couple of years. Shocked to read that comment about the campaign in Scotland re: Ronaldo. I know the Scottish are not the biggest England fans, but I did'nt realise they were fans of cheats.

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  • 256.
  • At 03:13 PM on 08 Jul 2006,
  • Kaspar Silas wrote:

This is a stupid post. Ronaldo is an amazing player. He is strong, fast, full of tricks, good in the air and has a great shot. Every english supporter I talked to before the game was dearly hoping he wouldnt play.

As he grows he will surely go on to be a legend of the game. Not giving him the young player of the year was a joke. All because the TV cameras caught him doing what happens in all football. Those who dont know this havent played football at any decent level.

It is typical of the narrow mindedness of english supporters to prasie this appaling decision. I notice no one on this post mentions the england team "cheating" in 1966 by claiming the ball was over the line when they knew it wasnt. Even this world cup did crouch not pull a defender out of the way by his hair to score. He cheated too yes perfect peter. Shearer finsihed his career pushing, backing in... just breaking what rules he could to be an amazing player. You know what its part of the game.

Ever seen early Pele. They kicked the shins of him. You think he just took it pointlessly. Didnt try to get those who kicked him sent of. Watch again more closely. Just watch modern football? Notice how easily the modern player goes down. Professional footballers play for what they can get and we all praise them when they win a penalty for our team.

Stop transferring blame to others. England are out for playing bad even on a dream draw. Great players playing so defensive and badly that every neutral celebrated there departure every bit as much Ukraines or the Swiss. Need to blame someone, Sven? well maybe but given the stupid pressure you all bring on your own team try a mirror first.

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  • 257.
  • At 04:22 PM on 09 Jul 2006,
  • jade hamilton wrote:

cristiano ronaldo is a hero!
he saved portugal and wiped out england he is also an inspiration to us younger generations to watch and play football come on portugal and come on ronaldo!

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  • 258.
  • At 03:24 AM on 10 Jul 2006,
  • vic wrote:

very funny to blame your ridiculous world cup adventure on ronaldo.you would look better doing circus acts on CNN.rooney as the clown..

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  • 259.
  • At 10:01 AM on 10 Jul 2006,
  • Stuart Pritchard wrote:

Gordon Sutcliffe

Your post says 'appears' and 'not the same' etc. Thats exactly what im talking about. Ronaldo is a cheat for this and that. But when our players do it.....its different.

As you said 'its unbelievable subjectivity'.

To the people who started this ....thanks for spoiling another great competition with your hype, bile, hatred and bad sportsmanship.

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  • 260.
  • At 11:37 AM on 11 Jul 2006,
  • Stefan wrote:

why is everyone going on about ronaldo diving when Henry is just as bad. France knocked out Brazil with an Henry dive, and then knocked out Portugal with an Henry dive. Ronald is an excellent player and he will realise as he gets older not to dive.

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  • 261.
  • At 10:03 PM on 11 Jul 2006,
  • hunni wrote:

i know ! he iz sooooooooooooooo gud and he iz pwopa fit! wot r u guyz chattin?
i luv im he iz 1 ov da best playerz!!

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  • 262.
  • At 10:04 PM on 11 Jul 2006,
  • hunni wrote:

i know ! he iz sooooooooooooooo gud and he iz pwopa fit! wot r u guyz chattin?
i luv im he iz 1 ov da best playerz!!

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  • 263.
  • At 10:05 PM on 11 Jul 2006,
  • hunni wrote:

i know ! he iz sooooooooooooooo gud and he iz pwopa fit! wot r u guyz chattin?
i luv im he iz 1 ov da best playerz!!

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  • 264.
  • At 02:26 PM on 17 Jul 2006,
  • mikel mvubu wrote:

france shud of won portugal are cheats and england r loozerz brazil france and argentina iz best

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