World Cup 2006 Blog

From our reporters in Germany

We all love the Germans!

laura_smithspark.gifIsn’t it funny how 10 days of football can change so many people’s ideas about other nations?

I never expected to hear so many voices from around the world say how great the Germans are. I also didn’t expect the World Cup to be quite such an international love-in.

But that seems to be the way it’s shaping up, most of the time.

I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve scribbled down “the Germans are great and all the fans are so friendly” in my notebook as supporters from a host of different countries tell me their views on their time here.

Of course, there is the odd bit of aggro – mostly heard from drunk English and Australian fans on late-night train journeys in my experience – but it seems far outweighed by the positives.

The hosts seem wisely to have decided to rise above any German-baiting and concentrate on making sure their million or so visitors have a good time.

paul_geoff_203.jpgI was speaking to Paul and Geoff, from Staffordshire, England, as we watched the nerve-wracking Italy-US game on a big screen in Kaiserslautern last night.

“They’re beautiful people,” said Geoff, about pretty much every nationality he’d encountered on his trip.

He also said how great it was that Germans seemed to have regained their pride in being German – for many years after World War II a difficult subject. Several Germans have also told me how proud they are to have the tournament here. Long may the love-in last!

By the way, thank you to everyone who sent comments on how Kaiserslautern – known as K-town to the US military stationed nearby – got its nickname.

I have to say, it may be small but I really like the place – which is lucky as I’ll be here once more on my travels round Germany.

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Me? I'd make the hosts qualify for every World Cup, even the hospitable Germans.

I would reserve one space in the competition though: for a team made up of the best players from all the non-qualifying countries.

This would make the World Cup a real festival of footballing talent, with the likes of Ryan Giggs able to take part.

Maybe this soccer team would be like the Barbarians rugby union team, selected to entertain customers, rather than to win.

For now, thank you, Germany!

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  • 2.
  • At 08:01 PM on 18 Jun 2006,
  • OmegaSupreme wrote:

I think the way this tournament has been run will change the image of Germany for years to come. First class.

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  • 3.
  • At 09:21 PM on 18 Jun 2006,
  • Michael wrote:

Thanks guys, we love you too... :-)

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  • 4.
  • At 09:32 PM on 18 Jun 2006,
  • Sarah Plunkett wrote:

Thanks, Laura, for the good review. I'm an expat who thinks Germans are pretty nice. In the main, they are friendly and courteous. It doesn't surprise me that many English have been pleasantly surprised by the welcome they have received by their Hosts. Maybe the UK media will start amending their stereotypes!

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  • 5.
  • At 10:00 PM on 18 Jun 2006,
  • Dadooronronroninho wrote:

I live in Germany and I can guarantee that yes, they DO have a sense of humour. British visitors rarely see it cos most of them are businessmen and, unlike in England, joking has always been something you do with your friends, not your work colleagues.
A younger generation who have spent time in the USA or other English-speaking countries to learn English are changing this habit, though. Offices in young industries like IT are pretty much like in the UK.
So wise up, Brits, modern Germany is more socially equal & just as democratic as UK, and is just about the LEAST militaristic country in Europe. Come & have a look.

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  • 6.
  • At 10:11 PM on 18 Jun 2006,
  • Mick Trezise wrote:

Being married to a German wife, I've been watching most of the games on German TV with my father in law and this has been excellent. No bias from the commentators and multi lingual presentation from Premiere World.
This World Cup is actually opening peoples' eyes that the Germans are not all dour, miserable people at all. Give them a break and you'll discover that they're no different to anyone else with good and bad all over.
The tournament is going down a storm and German viewers, although obviously wanting the German national team to win, are supporting any team playing good football.
Here's hoping England start soon then eh!
COME ON ENGLAND!!

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  • 7.
  • At 10:12 PM on 18 Jun 2006,
  • Lynn Bear wrote:

First time in Germany and I was blown away! Paradise on earth. What great people - so friendly and helpful!Berlin Berlin wir gehen nach Berlin!!

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  • 8.
  • At 10:15 PM on 18 Jun 2006,
  • Rick Smith wrote:

Germans have an amazing sense of humour. Before I went to see the world cup games I had been given the impression (mostly by British media) that Germans have no sense of humour, were very serious and didn't know how to party. Will that has been wiped permanently from my mind. They are great fun!!! I just love them. Oh and the women are beautiful too!

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  • 9.
  • At 10:17 PM on 18 Jun 2006,
  • Resident Alien wrote:

As a German living in the UK I'm glad that there are so many positive comments being made, especially by English fans, about the Germans and Germany in general. The Germans love football even if they don't necessarily support their own national team and the World Cup is a great opportunity to show the rest of the world what Germany is really like. (It's not all sauerkraut you know.)

The Germans are still very aware of their past and they have always been very uneasy about 'being proud' of their country. However, I think that they have now finally accepted that it is okay to fly their flag again and celebrate a modern Germany in a modern Europe with friends from all over the world.

Welcome to Germany!

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  • 10.
  • At 10:42 PM on 18 Jun 2006,
  • tony rebel wrote:

I couldn't agree with that blog more. I've just returned from an amzing week in Germany and I have to say that their tourist board needs shaping up as I never knew how much Germany had to offer. The people are great,the scenery beautiful,the cities modern and the the beer and food,well my belly testifies how much I enjoyed them. Having the football there just added a great feelgood vibe around the whole place.

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  • 11.
  • At 11:13 PM on 18 Jun 2006,
  • Laurence wrote:

I'm another expat living in Bavaria. Not surprised at all by these comments and the general warm feelings towards the WM06 hosts. I've even got a German colleague at work who can do Irony....
Also surprising how many German's I've met during the tournament who are happy to support England in our games. Guy in the next village up from me even has a St.Georges flag up outside his house. Plus there were quite a few Germans wearing England shirts in Nuremburg last Thursday.

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  • 12.
  • At 11:30 PM on 18 Jun 2006,
  • gary gordon wrote:

Ive been living in germany for ten years !! and have fallen in love with the german people !! they have a great balance of work hard and play hard !! and have a great pride in there homes and respect for others !! from an english point of view we are not forieners to the germans untill we open our mouths other wise we look just like them !!they are our people !! Please tell me how a country that brews the worst beer in the world usa has managed to deprive the millions of fans visiting the world cup home of great beers from drinking local brews at the ground !!!

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  • 13.
  • At 11:30 PM on 18 Jun 2006,
  • gary gordon wrote:

Ive been living in germany for ten years !! and have fallen in love with the german people !! they have a great balance of work hard and play hard !! and have a great pride in there homes and respect for others !! from an english point of view we are not forieners to the germans untill we open our mouths other wise we look just like them !!they are our people !! Please tell me how a country that brews the worst beer in the world usa has managed to deprive the millions of fans visiting the world cup home of great beers from drinking local brews at the ground !!!

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  • 14.
  • At 11:40 PM on 18 Jun 2006,
  • gary gordon wrote:

after ten years in germany i can assure you this is not the germans putting on a show just for the world cup its how it is heare organisede and clean !! freindly and fun !! as i say to my german freind viel spass aba nic so veil gluck !! LOTS OF FUN BUT NOT SO MUCH LUCK !!com on enggllllaaaaaaaaandddddd

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  • 15.
  • At 11:45 PM on 18 Jun 2006,
  • Alexander wrote:

I was in Germany a few weeks ago and even then as they were preparing for the World Cup the Germans were excellent hosts to the numerous international tourists there.

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  • 16.
  • At 12:08 AM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • Gerrit wrote:

Well, thanks a lot for all the compliments. Somebody said the worldcup "will change the image of Germany for years to come". I hope that's still true after we kicked you out in the round of 16 ;)

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  • 17.
  • At 12:34 AM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • Roger Franklin wrote:

Germany and its people have long been hugely underrated, so it's delightful to see so many fellow Englishmen and women finally realise what a great place it is and how lovely Germans can be.

I truly believe this World Cup will represent a turning point in Anglo-German relations, as I hoped it would be - and not before time.

All we need now is for the tabloids to cotton on to the change in sentiment... (cue breath not being held).

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"I never expected to hear so many voices from around the world say how great the Germans are. I also didn’t expect the World Cup to be quite such an international love-in."
That is great to hear. I am sure that the next host SOuth Africa will be great too.

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  • 19.
  • At 02:18 AM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • Matt wrote:

Great to see everyone's having a great time. As a British student studying in Frankfurt for the year it's simply fantastic to be able to soak up the world cup atmosphere. The Fan Fests are terrific. I was at the 'Main Arena' to see both of England's games so far, and with 15,000 other english fans for the Paraguay game it was the best football atmosphere i've experienced in a long time. I really hope South Africa carry on the FanFests in 2010 as they let those not lucky enough to get hold of tickets experience the atmosphere and excitement of the world cup just as much. I concur totally with all the comments and long may the love-in continue. Only one more question to ask now, 'Wer wird Weltmeister?'
Matt, Frankfurt

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  • 20.
  • At 02:25 AM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • Charles wrote:


I am baffled by the reply to my posted comment which you ask for and then tell me I am not allowed to comment. Obviously the Germans are more friendly than you.

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  • 21.
  • At 03:26 AM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • Derek Frey wrote:

As a German (youngish, and well aware of my country's past), reading these comments is just great! Thanks! Danke! The mood here (in Munich) is something to behold. People from all over the world are sharing in an experience I've never thought possible. To meet fans from just about every corner of our planet, having a party together, exchanging flags... I love it! Absolutely love it!

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  • 22.
  • At 03:59 AM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • Ralf wrote:

I am a German living in the US and frequently travel to the UK for business. I think people are all the same. They care about their families, to have a good time and to live in peace. Germans are no different. I also think that Germans are underrated in both the UK and the US. They have no humor, no fun, etc. Let me tell you, the bet parties I have ever had were in Germany. Germans know how to have a good time and to involve the entire family, football is no different...
The world cup is great and I am enjoying every single game...

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  • 23.
  • At 04:55 AM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • Jo Verner-Carlsson wrote:

There are many people - and I don’t have to tell you where most of them are gathering - who think "Europe" is all about a corrupted, complex machinery called Brussels, about endless and fruitless negotiations dominated by France and Germany, about losing one’s national identity etc. etc.

But look at what’s happening in Germany these days and you might recognize that this is not only a German, but a truly European success story.

Where else in the world would you see all these nations assemble so naturally and in such numbers than on this continent which has gone through all imaginable historical purgatories and - at least partially - learned some lessons?

Long live Europe 06!

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  • 24.
  • At 05:36 AM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • Dean wrote:

I lived in Cologne for 4 years before moving to the US. The Germans are great people, they are just so friendly, I have many fond memories of having a beer on Friesenstrasse at 4 in the morning with thousands of people there and not a hint of trouble; everyone just happy to laugh and drink :)
The sooner the tabloids get over the war the better 60 years ago! I'm surprised they don't bring the Napoleanic war up more often!

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  • 25.
  • At 06:26 AM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • sonny pathak wrote:

I fully agree with you Laura. It has been a great World Cup up to now and the Germany have put a lot of work into it. i myself have been helping out in Hamburg and the comments from the visitors are all positive.
Danke, Backenbaur

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  • 26.
  • At 06:28 AM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • sonny pathak wrote:

I fully agree with you Laura. It has been a great World Cup up to now and the Germany have put a lot of work into it. i myself have been helping out in Hamburg and the comments from the visitors are all positive.
Danke, Backenbaur

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  • 27.
  • At 07:50 AM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • astrid wrote:

being a german world cup volunteer at frankfurt, frequent visitor to england and fervent lfc supporter, i was absolutely thrilled to see england beat paraguay and party with my liverpool friends afterwards!!! i lived and studied in england and it's so good to finally see that things are changing between germans and the english. i had hoped that the world cup would finally give us germans an opportunity to show the world and especially the english ;-) that we're not all boring bureaucrats, but know how to party and play good hosts to all the great fans from across the world.

it doesn't come as a surprise to me that certain english papers still misinterpret german coverage of the english team (deliberately or beacause they're just too stupid) to boost their sales. and it doesn't surprise me either that certain german papers do the same with english coverage for the same poor reasons. it also annoys me that german media emphasise after each england match that the fans were all partying peacefully and no hooligans were in sight. not that i'm not glad that everyone's getting along, i just didn't expect anything different!!! there you go, the english also managed to polish their image.
for my part, i'll continue flying the german flag and st george's cross side by side on our balcony at least until germany and england meet again in the final.
i think it was about time we all got rid of the old stereotypes.

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  • 28.
  • At 09:11 AM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • nick meynell wrote:

Just got back from Cologne - sadly i cannot stay on for the England game due to work commitments. A first class world cup, really well organised and policed. Friday night in Cologne was great, different nationalities just chatting, singing & drinking. Thanks Germany.

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  • 29.
  • At 09:25 AM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • Parmi wrote:

Hey - that's a great comment about including a team of best players from the non-qualifying teams in the World Cup. This needs more thought. FIFA?

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  • 30.
  • At 09:57 AM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • chris wrote:

I think that in the UK, we aren't taught to hat Germans. However a lot of our recent history is tied to them. I'm currently on a year aborad in Spain and last term I lived with 2 German lads. They were fantastic, really good fun, witty, decent people. Of course we inevitably ended up talking about the Wars some drunken nights, but solely to say how strange it was that our ancestors colud have fought each other and how we were friends

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  • 31.
  • At 10:10 AM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • JohnR wrote:

Lots of good comments here. its no surprise to me that people traveling to Germany are finding the people there to be great host's. They are experiencing things for themselves.
We should all stand back and maybe realise just how much we allow the dodgy media sheets to manipulate our feelings about someone or somewhere.
It's maybe time that we started thinking about making people and organisations more accountable for what they publish.

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  • 32.
  • At 10:18 AM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • Jan wrote:

I'm really glad to see all the positive posts about Germany. I was lucky enough to spend the week before the World Cup in Berlin - it was one of the most beautiful, safe and vibrant cities I have ever visited. The build up atmosphere was amazing, just like a huge street party, good humoured and no sense of trouble. I really didn't want to come home!

Well done Germany!

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  • 33.
  • At 11:04 AM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • Charlie wrote:

I'm English - love all the Germans I've met before and during WC06. Stereotypes are hard to get rid of and are propogated by low rent media outlets. Just spend sometime in Australia and you'll see why they are so parochial too.....

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  • 34.
  • At 11:07 AM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • Craig Benton wrote:

I've lived in Germany now since 97 after leaving the RAF. The only big difference that I see between the Britsh and Germans is sarcasm, other than that we are basically the same; "Beer, Football and fun". I knew that hosting the World Cup would open the Germans up to a lot of positive press. Good, and good for them!! My German family are Football mad, me too!! Imagine what I have to put up with when England play Germany....Have fun..

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  • 35.
  • At 11:30 AM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • Kevin wrote:

The hospitability and welcoming nature of the Germans will only be a surprise to people who know nothing more about Germany than World War II films, what the tabloids tell us and that they beat us on penalties every few years. The British have really been living in the past for far too long. Hopefully now the stereotypes will change.

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  • 36.
  • At 11:36 AM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • Aircool wrote:

I used to live in Germany a long time ago, it's a fantastic place full of fantastic people and I visit as often as possible.

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  • 37.
  • At 11:39 AM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • Seb wrote:

I am a German who lived in New York and is now living and working in London. Thanks for all the good comments on this website. Having so many international friends I've never expected anything else from the worldcup 2006 than the biggest party ever. It was about time that some poor and narrow-minded newspapers learn what's really going on in the modern world.

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  • 38.
  • At 11:42 AM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • Robert O Connor wrote:

I have just spent 4 nights in Hamburg to experience the world cup. I along with 17 of my friends from Liverpool were made very welcome by the host nation. We watched the England game in the purpose built fan zone, and it was superb.
Having watched the Germany game the night before where they scored a late winner, the atmosphere in the city was fantastic. Having spoke to some of the locals that night, they were amazed that so many German Flags were being displayed from cars, windows and buildings throughout this World cup. They said that the flying the German flag is almost unheard of in Hamburg, and this world cup has brought back some national pride.
Keep it up Germany- you are putting on a great show for the world to see.

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  • 39.
  • At 11:43 AM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • nick wrote:

I lived in Frankfurt for 16 years and although the city is not necessarily a true reflection of life in Germany it was certainly enough to bring home to me how similar we are as peoples.
I was concerned the English fans travelling to Germany would only look for negatives to confirm existing prejudices, but have been encouraged by almost all the posts above.
The principle hurdle to breaking down cultural barriers tends to be the English inability to learn our continental neighbours' languages and, as a German speaker, it drives me to distraction to hear some of the ill informed comment about the Germans from people who have either never visted the country, or speak a word of the language.
I have been back in the UK for a couple of years now and genuinely miss the slower pace of life and the more civilized work/play balance which I find harder to find here in the UK.
Good luck for the rest of the tournament and hope the 'friendly' atmosphere continues.

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  • 40.
  • At 11:53 AM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • Karl Heinz wrote:

I am so delighted that there are so many positive comments on the WC 06 in Germany! Also, I am happy that we (well most of us, there are stupid people everywhere) the German people have finally got the one big chance to show the world at the beginning of the 21st Century what a nation we are how we relate to our European neighbours especially. Not to forget the rest of the world. I love this feeling of unity, happiness and friendship! May it last for ever and continue after this extraordinary event! Long live Football! Long live across the nations understanding! This is only the beginning of modern; 21st Century Europe!

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  • 41.
  • At 12:13 PM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • Lukey wrote:

Normally you get a good bit of debate going in the comments section but on this subject it is clear that everyone concurs. I will add my voice too but I must say I agree with you all, the Germans are wonderful hosts as I have noticed on my regular visits to Hamburg, a fantastic city. I always have a laugh when I go to parties in Germany and I have also noticed that the people at them can have a great time without getting totally drunken, one English trait we are, sadly, well known for.

Let's not get carried away, the tabloids will continue to have an undercurrent on anti-Germanness for decades to come, but many of the white-van men who read them will be able to say "Actually I went there for the world cup in 2006 and the Germans were brilliant!".

So far this World Cup has been superb, Vielen Dank Deutschland. As Jim said: no matter what happens to their national side, the Germans are already winners.

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  • 42.
  • At 12:15 PM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • Geckoman wrote:

It is really nice to read something positive about us Germans and I really appreciate it. The new discission about "nationalism" here is fought out by people born after the war, me and my mates (30-40 years old) have learned about the horrible german history and we know what we have to do - we give the rest of the world the happiest tournament we ever could. It is not about nationalism, it is about fun and sports. Some jewish made a protest against the Team of Iran and I think that they should shut up because this is only about sports. Germany and Iran always had a good relationship so I would be glad if Ahmedinejad would come to Germany to tell everybody here if he still thinks the holocaust has never happened. Thank you all for your nice comments and I hope England will be in the final against Germany and we will see a good match without a so called Wembley-goal. Even if England wins the Championship, that would be OK because you deserve it too.

Sorry about my bad english - have a lovely day in Germany :-))

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  • 43.
  • At 12:16 PM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • Rupert wrote:

I find it great that we ( English/Brits ) are finally finding out that Germany is great country to visit. I just wish I could persuade my brothers to come here!
Now all we need to do is get Germany to change it's stereotype image of old England - crap weather, crap food, nothing to see or do, expensive, hooligans. 99.9% of the German population would not even consider a visit to the UK. A crying shame and a view my German wife does not share......she loves England and the English.

Rupert ( 20 years in Germany )

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  • 44.
  • At 12:24 PM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • john-henry adler wrote:

This tournament is a great chance for the British media to decide on whether to continue feeding our negative preconceptions about the host-nation, which has undergone a transformation like no other country in Europe in the last 50 years, or to apply an even-handed approach. So far, in this world cup, I am glad to see that a healthy proportion of journalists seem to realise that fairness and accuracy go a lot further than the boring, ignorant, and racist kraut-bashing news-reporting that showed how badly our media was stuck in the past.

Germany has pulled off a mega party by encouraging everyone to come, including fans without tickets and I am glad that our press is doing its bit to keep that positive vibe where Germans and English are partying together, as it happened wherever England played in this tournament.

On their humour:
I lived in Germany for 3 years and felt ashamed of my own pre-conceptions. Once I learned the language, I found that German humour is based on double-meanings and wordplay - just like ours. I realised that jokes get lost in translation. In fact, I found that they have many of the jokes that we have.


England will most likely play Germany, let’s show them that we are good guests and demonstrate our great sportsmanship regardless of winning or losing.

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  • 45.
  • At 01:19 PM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • Anette wrote:

Rupert ! NO!
I love England and I know many other Germans who do aswell. (I am German by the way).
And the Brit weather isn't miserable, food is fine and rugby awesome, just a pity, it's not that popular over here.
Anyway, I support England and Germany (YES, that IS possible...!!) and I hope loads, both teams will blow em all away !!

Have a good one all you Brits and I really enjoy having you here in Germany !!

Anette

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  • 46.
  • At 02:24 PM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • Christoph wrote:

Come on Rupert, it's not really 99,9 per cent of us germans that don't want to visit britain ;)

Anyway - thank you for all the nice comments. Hope that this WC will really be a turning point in the british-german relations.

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  • 47.
  • At 02:32 PM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • Mark wrote:

also a big thank you from me for your great comments on Germany... Rupert be assured most Germans love England and appreciate it for its humor (which is not naturally given to us), your lovely towns and your traditions and even your fish and ships (I even have a F&S shop in my street in Berlin). Thanks England and sorry sun :-)

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  • 48.
  • At 03:01 PM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • dirk wrote:

Germans are a hospitable people and we just want our guests to enjoy their stay - not due to the German post-war habit of desiring to please, but as a natural obligation.

Personally I have worked with Brits as a serviceman and during my career for the past twenty years and I always found it easy to get along with them both professionally and on private terms. Most of them seemed more than willing to drop quickly any preconceptions about Germans and Germany in general.

The media on both sides of the channel convey distorted pictures of life in Germany and Britain to this very day and I have been expecting the British view on Germany to change to a more realistic and indeed positive image for the past ten years.
Now, that it finally seems to happen, I am very glad for it.

I have a notion the British and the Germans are much more similar than they both managed to realise so far.

Anyway, I hope you all the enjoy the tournament as much as I do!

Regards from Bonn
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  • 49.
  • At 04:56 PM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • r_diger wrote:

Rupert, I have been to England an several occasions. I on my trips trough the lovely English countryside I have run across many Germans. Germans have a positive view on England. We love Monty Pyton, the Queen, Fish and Chips, Beatles and many more.
I also would like to add the most English that I have met over the year had a rather positive on Germany. Let's not take the SUN headlines too seriously.

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  • 50.
  • At 05:14 PM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • Ed Reid wrote:

Greatly embracing stuff, and quite rightly.

Check out www.adoptagerman.com. It's a website set up by the sports brand Puma that illustrates these friendly relations.

You can adopt a German to be your guide for activities in Germany whilst the World Cup is on.

A truly honest, entertaining and useful site.

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  • 51.
  • At 05:15 PM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • Ed Reid wrote:

Greatly embracing stuff, and quite rightly.

Check out www.adoptagerman.com. It's a website set up by the sports brand Puma that illustrates these friendly relations.

You can adopt a German to be your guide for activities in Germany whilst the World Cup is on.

A truly honest, entertaining and useful site.

Ed


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  • 52.
  • At 05:16 PM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • Ed Reid wrote:

Greatly embracing stuff, and quite rightly.

Check out www.adoptagerman.com. It's a website set up by the sports brand Puma that illustrates these friendly relations.

You can adopt a German to be your guide for activities in Germany whilst the World Cup is on.

A truly honest, entertaining and useful site.

Ed

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  • 53.
  • At 05:28 PM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • Nat wrote:

I´m so glad to see these positive comments on the WM in Germany..I nearly have a tear in my eye as this subject really frustrates me! :-) The Germans deserve it through and through...and have every right to be proud of such a tolerant, fun loving, friendly country. I am from Staffordshire and live in Hannover. What an atmosphere in the city centre the past week! It´s electric. I was overawed by how friendly it was and how willing the Germans are to support other teams and get into the spirit. I think the British could learn a lot from them about being open and relaxed about other nations. What is it with us? Have we got such a lack of esteem that we have to hate everyone else to make ourselves feel good? I know from reading these comments that there are happily tonnes of people who think otherwise. I just wish that the media could grow up and get a life!

Great one Germany! See you again at the FanFest!

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  • 54.
  • At 05:36 PM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • Blake wrote:

I had a fantastic time in Nuremburg - not only were the Germans wonderful hosts, but it was fantastic mixing with all the Trinidadians, Japanese, Koreans, Swedes, Croatians and others who were all getting on really well with the thousands of England fans. There was no sign of trouble, even on the hot & sweaty evening train back to Frankfurt. The atmosphere was terrific in the city and I wish I could still be in Germany for the next few weeks, like many of the fans I met.

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  • 55.
  • At 06:09 PM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • Alexandra wrote:

Thanks guys, it's so good for a German to read your posts... It always used to make me so sad realising how big the prejudices towards Germans still were, although I have such close friends allover UK! I'm so glad we finally get a chance to grow up and us Germans also get mature in developing a healthy, pacifistic national identity...

I'm so happy to celebrate with British foreigners during party nights in Munich - and "don't mention the war" no more! (okay, now I started it...)

Lovely to have you here - have a good time!

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  • 56.
  • At 08:02 PM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • Dadooronronroninho wrote:

Should the unfortunate happen and England and Germany meet in the 2nd round, I guess it won't be long before we're reading about krauts and panzers in the Sun. I'd like to ask the BBC bloggers to give a message to your employers. Please get some interviews with English fans who've been in Germany for a while and are enjoying it, not people who just stepped off the plane. Find time for them on the news as well as Gary Lineker's shows. Sometimes you have to take action for balanced reporting.

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  • 57.
  • At 11:43 PM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • zargorn wrote:

Okay ... if you let us win on penalties again you can call us krauts if you like. Somehow I think I would miss it.
After all:
"Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result."
Wait ... who said that? Damn! Did I bring up the war again?

But sriously: England vs Germany have always been great matches. And a little bit of rivalry makes it even better. I really don't care much about mocking comments in Sun as long as I see people don't use them to make up their opinion of the country. And, well, the 1 millionth WW2 comment in Sun would not really promote british humour to us but thats what you have Monty Python for ...

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  • 58.
  • At 11:58 PM on 19 Jun 2006,
  • Rolf Habich wrote:

Re posts 58 & 59, Nat & Blake:

Thank you both very much. Here we have - again - the reason why many Germans respect English people irrespective of stupid English tabloids' bias and aggressiveness: their sense of fairness. It is one of the virtues that have led many Germans to respect and like English manners; virtues that you have to defend against those who want to create a rift between us and want to make you believe nothing ever changes. I wonder if many people are aware of the terrible implication of supposedly nothing ever changing. It denies you your dignity, your capacity of growing, developing. Show the dark princes of hell in the yellow press the red ticket.

"Fairness" is a word you find in every German dictionary, a fact you can be proud of, especially if the majority among you keep on living up to it.

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  • 59.
  • At 01:49 AM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Giovanni wrote:

Thank you for the compliments.I work at a Fan Fast in Gelsenkirchen (20.000 people).I have to anser the questions of our guests and help them as good as well. I can only see a few games, but i enjoy the time, to meet so many people from so diffrent countries.Its such a great time, and im proud to be a part of it, to represent Germany.Its a good time, and i have a lot of fun. But one think i have to say, i `m enthusing about the americans.My english ist not good enaugh to explain,what i want to say about them, but they are very cool and nice. The World to guests by friends! Greets from the Ruhrgebiet!

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  • 60.
  • At 03:15 AM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • kwasimodo wrote:

Hi there!

It's nice to read that so many people have good time over here( in Germany). I do hope this party remains as peaceful and friendly as it has been so far. But I'd would also like to say that sadly there are still some germans left who are too narrow-minded to apreciate the chance of meeting so many interesting people from all over the world. I hope all these great fans and the awesome atmosphere teaches them better.

Have nice worldcup everybody
best regards
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  • 61.
  • At 03:16 AM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Torsten wrote:

Ummh, what to say?
I always thought that those hate tirades against us (Germany) were just an expression of british humour.
I never thought that there are that a lot of people to take that for truth.
Anyway, nevertheless I of course hope Germany to win the cup we`re, an I mean ALL the people who were here, allready are the winners of this tournament.

Just to hope that this friendly and warm climate along all the people won`t end withing the World Cup.
Then we really can say that football is more than a game.

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  • 62.
  • At 08:54 AM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Johannes Lengdobler wrote:

Hey guys! Thanks for the great article! We aren't that bad you always that, huh? :-) I enjoy this great party here and I hope, the rest of the world also does. laura Smith-Spark is right when she says, Germans have got back their pride in being German. I think, we've found a "healthy" way of loving our country.
Greeting from Regensburg /Bavaria.

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  • 63.
  • At 10:37 AM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • a j h wrote:

It's so wonderful that my fellow Brits are now seeing Germany in a new & positive light. Let's hope that the British tabloid press will follow and learn to present Germany & the Germans in a fair & realsitic way. Perhaps it's a first step to a more open British view of Europe ?

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  • 64.
  • At 11:22 AM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Astrid wrote:

Hello World!

Thank you so much for all the compliments!

We Germans have to give back compliments: You are great guests! You are great football-fans! It's really, really, really, really big fun to party with all those people from all over the world! We love you!

I don't usually take interest in football. I don't even know the names of the guys on the german team. But this world-cup party makes everybody a football-fan somehow. And that's because of you!

Because of people from everywhere in the world, who just come here to have fun with us. Germany loves you!

Peace, love and good vibrations from Bonn
Astrid

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  • 65.
  • At 01:00 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Katja Carsten wrote:

Funny, isn't it? It takes the German's most beloved game to make them - us - being proud about our nationality again. Finally, I have to say. This is the first time ever that I can even share this feeling, and I have to say, it was about time. A new and exciting experience, being so patriotic.

I am so happy to live here in a country that is able to show the world how happy everyone is about having the honor of hosting the world cup. And hey, even the weather is great! ( A fact that should never be underestimated!)

I am more than glad that people from around the world feel welcome in Germany and really seem to have a great time!

I never would have dared to picture in my wildest dreams how the world cup would change the atmosphere in Hamburg, all over Germany, how all the fans get along so well and just enjoy this event.

Lots of love from a happy and proud German girl enjoying the world cup!

Thanks for this article, by the way!

Katja
from Hamburg

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  • 66.
  • At 04:09 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Torsten wrote:

It is bad, that we do start loving our country like others do, and I can only hope, that after the worldcup the flags and other patriotism do not show off again!

We are not allowed to do this and we have to remember all the bad things that which the germans did.
Everytime we start to doing this many say "NO" to it, because they will remember the german history - why this should be changed only by the worldcup?

I will never be proud of this country were I was born and I will everytime excuse (and pay for -> Israel) the mistakes of our ancestors!
This is the way how it is...

Torsten, 29 years, Germany

PS:
If you want to hurt a german, only say "NAZI", because all germans are still this... very easy, or?
And yes - many are doing this...

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  • 67.
  • At 04:46 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Mic Es wrote:

Well, unfortunately I think I should introduce some gloom to this blogged love-in, at least when it comes to Anglo-German relations. Some people here have expressed their expectation that the World Cup might be a "turning point" in Anglo-German relations. I hope so but I am not convinced. Just wait what's going to happen after a likely England vs. Germany match, especially so if Germany wins (remember Lineker?). And just wait what the Sun and the Mirror are going to write about it. And the "Germany" section in English bookshops will always be full of WW II stuff and nothing on modern Germany.

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  • 68.
  • At 04:59 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Pisquare wrote:

I hope the world has recognized that Germany is an ordiary country in europe . Not better and not worster than other places in Europe . If the worlcup has shown this, it would be a good result .

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  • 69.
  • At 05:40 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Alex wrote:

A Time To Make Friends!

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  • 70.
  • At 06:01 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • David Nussbaum wrote:

Being German and living for some time abroad (in Sweden) it is interesting what other newspapers write about Germany, the people there and what still sucks. Gladfully not that much to the last one :)

But just as Mic Es wrote, let's see what happens in Sweden, when they - the Swedes - meet the Germans on Saturday and Germany wins...

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  • 71.
  • At 06:23 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Stefan wrote:

Im german but work in China. Im so happy to see, how people from all over the world are having fun together and watching football at home in germany. Im so sad I cannot be part of it. Wish I could be there to party with all of you. Have fun!
Stefan

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  • 72.
  • At 06:44 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Lars wrote:

As a German, thank you all for your positive comments. We do love cultural diversity and have respect for any nation not only as a host obligation. As you can see, we love the game and support any team who is doing a good show. Besides that, none could be more surprised than us how well our team is doing at the moment. But more than seeing our team win, we want that every guest in germany has a time to remember.

And to my fellow German Thorsten:
What can I say, just a sad comment. How many Germans have you met who share your oppinion? Turn on your TV and listen what our guests have to say. Come to Cologne where I live and open your eyes. Please don't judge our friendly nation from the 10 or 20 people you met in your neighbourhood.
If you are not proud of your country then you should put those ancient history books aside for a moment and take a look which nation is one of the most peaceloving on this planet, which nation cares more about environment and which nation had so many citizends who spend their private savings after the Tsunami, which let the already more than generous government aid package look like peanuts. The red cross was not able to spend all that money until today, cheers to black, red & gold
please escuse me that I gotta go now to have a beer with my friends from Ghana, oh and in case you might wonder, black or white couldn't matter less in our friendly little country

see you in the pub from whereever you are

Cheers Lars

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  • 73.
  • At 06:45 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Arno wrote:

In the last weeks Germany made a metamorphosis: Before the World Cup many of us (Yes, I'm a German)were not able to say that they're proud to be German, and now we're like most of the other countries on the globe. But I'm still not sure if it is already health patriotism or just World-Cup-joy; we'll see.
It's fantastic to have the "world at home"!
To the Nazi-topic I must say: We are no Nazis and Nazis ARE NO GERMANS!! Because we were their victims too. Of course there are some, but they're also in many other countries on the globe. :-(

I wish the World Cup would never end and not only becaus of the soccer.
Other countries must have this great experience, too!!!

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  • 74.
  • At 06:48 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • René wrote:

Hi Mates!

It is overwhelming to read your comments about the world cup. I have never expected this and now I am really proud of my country as a good hoster.

Now I hope that even Queen Mum (may God rest her soul) will change her mind. ;-)

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  • 75.
  • At 06:48 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Arno wrote:

In the last weeks Germany made a metamorphosis: Before the World Cup many of us (Yes, I'm a German)were not able to say that they're proud to be German, and now we're like most of the other countries on the globe. But I'm still not sure if it is already health patriotism or just World-Cup-joy; we'll see.
It's fantastic to have the "world at home"!
To the Nazi-topic I must say: We are no Nazis and Nazis ARE NO GERMANS!! Because we were their victims too. Of course there are some, but they're also in many other countries on the globe. :-(

I wish the World Cup would never end and not only becaus of the soccer.
Other countries must have this great experience, too!!!

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  • 76.
  • At 06:53 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Felix wrote:

It is very moving to see all those positive reactions towards my home country Germany!
I think this might really be the right moment to end the old never-ending conflict between our two countries, which was once fought in a terrible war and since then kept alive by the rainbow press. All the english fans I met here were really great people, and I will never forget this athmosphere in our cities. It is an awesome experience to see so many people from all spots of the world sharing celebrating together peacefully in our beautiful country, wich finally seems to have awakened from a long gloomy slumber after WWII, smiling. I am proud of my country, not out of unreflected patriotism, but because this country changed into a peaceloving and open-minded society. Even the sun is shining :) Come and be our guests and enjoyu yourselves and tell everyone what a nice stay you had. Oh, and you better forget about that clichee that germans don't have a sense of humor :P

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  • 77.
  • At 07:39 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Manni wrote:

Thanks for your entry
I think, we have a big party feeling in Germany right now. But I don't think that it's about pride or beeing German. Today I stood next to a friend with a flag singing you hymn - with wrong text ^^

Manni

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  • 78.
  • At 07:41 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Manni wrote:

Thanks for your entry
I think, we have a big party feeling in Germany right now. But I don't think that it's about pride or beeing German. Today I stood next to a friend with a flag singing our hymn - with wrong text ^^

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  • 79.
  • At 07:43 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Marco wrote:

I like to say thanks. I´m not a sport freak, but I´m really impressed now. Theese days we have the 2nd "Love Parade" on the streets in Berlin. Nice to have you here (Live or by TV ;-). And when I read this blogs, I could cry for luck. Welcome in the new Berlin ;-)

Peace, Marco

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  • 80.
  • At 07:53 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Andreas wrote:

I agree with Lars and many others: Torsten, go back to your left-wing extremist live-the-real-socialism-anti-everything hole you came out just to write an entry in this blog! Nobody wants those "Ewiggestrige" (eternal yesterday) like you any more!

Go England! Go Germany!... and therefore especially: Go England tonite, beat the IKEAs! ;-)

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  • 81.
  • At 07:54 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Jan wrote:

I dont see the diffrence. We are the same Germans as last year. These german citys are the same you bombed 50 years ago. Now everything and everyone is nice and beautiful?

How could anglo-german relations improve, if they haven't in the last 50 years? Who would bye a tabloid with so many blank sides, that stay after leaving out the nazi blah-blah? Thats unrealistic. Stop playing in white and black and start german-bashing again. Than everything will be fine.

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  • 82.
  • At 07:59 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Michael wrote:

Hello everybody,

after having read through all these comments I wish to add two points.

First
To me it is impossible to be proud to be german (as I am), because I did not have to do anything to become one. I think it is the same with all other nations. Today I feel pride in the way my people behaves to millions of other people, making them feel wanted and even liked.

Second
It gives me a big smile to read some folks writing about "WC 06" as being used to connect those two letters to a place well known to everybody ;-).
Maybe it means something like: being in one place with everybody else gives us great relief?

Hi from Hamburg, Germany (come over and have a good time).

Michael

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  • 83.
  • At 08:00 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • nerofix wrote:

nice comments guys, you're welcome ;-)

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  • 84.
  • At 08:14 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Sebastian Meyer wrote:

I'm a 17 years old german pupil. As long i can remember it was not easy for me to be proud of beeing german, because there are often very critical discussions about the german past.
But in the days of the world championship when I read all the positive comments on the atmosphere in Germany, the behaviour of Germans and how people from different countries all over the world enjoy it to be here, it's the first time in my life that I'm really proud to be german. for this fantastical feeling I'd like to thank you all.

Greez Sebastian

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  • 85.
  • At 08:17 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Roland wrote:

Somehow this looks strange to me.
What for hell's sake do you think or thought is living
here in Germany? This people doesn't consist of a mad
and brutal version of inhabitants of the Sesamy-Street.
Even not if my rotten English sounds like that!

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  • 86.
  • At 08:30 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Johannes wrote:

@ Larry: ABSOLUTELY my word!!!

I think, we have the duty to prevent a new Third Reich to cme up, but we have the right of being proud of ourselves. Why hould I be ashamed when I'm in "foreign" countries? These guys who marched through Europe and killed Millions, that WASN'T ME! So why being ashamed? Maybe some people can't divide between "memory" and "present". Strange, because even in the German language these words have nothing in common...

But I'm also very excited, if the Anglo-German relation would stay that good if Germany faces England on he pitch and Beckham becomes Lineker...

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  • 87.
  • At 08:31 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Sarah wrote:

I am an A-Level German student from a german family and I think that it is great that germany is finally getting the recognition due to it for being such a brilliant country!! The culture is vibrant and individual, the towns and cities clean and the people are so friendly and welcoming!!
I first went to germany when i was thirteen on an exchange; I was terrified at the prospect of spending a week and a half with an unknown family that did not speak English (I had only been studying German for two years then, yet when it was time to go home I cried as I did not want to leave!!! It was the best holiday of my life!!

It is amazing that the image of Germany has beem changed so quickly, long may it continue!

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  • 88.
  • At 08:33 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Tusnellda wrote:

Thank you everybody! It sure means a lot here in Germany that our guests are glad, and we hope they will remember us as their friends.

Today (I was at one of those fan-thingies) was the very first time in my whole life that I actually sang the national anthem aloud. Furthermore there has never been a time where there was a comparable amount of black-red-golden flags. Some important part of german history is happening here right now.

All of these wonderful comments you write give us back our pride and I am deeply thankful.

Welcome to Germany! (And an especially warm welcome to you, Land of Harry Potter)

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  • 89.
  • At 08:36 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Jonas Neumann wrote:

The comments really said it all, and all i want to say is: Maybe well meet in great britian at world cup 2018 :)

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  • 90.
  • At 09:32 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Ulrich wrote:

Enjoyed reading all those comments!
To summarize,


  • the majority of visitors enjoys their stay in Germany,
  • Germans are overwhelmed and delighted to see that they were successful in making the WC a success for everybody
  • many Germans still feel uneasy about experiencing patriotism,
  • the world cup may or may not change the image of Germany for the better "for years to come",
  • Germans may or may not develop a new form of "healty" patriotism because of the WC.

I'm a 29-year-old German who spent 9 months in Britian as a visiting student a few years ago.
One of the most valuable experiences of my time there was to get into contact with people from many different countries. I enjoyed learning about their similar and different views, beliefs and mentalities. As a foreigner, I've always felt welcomed by the British and never experienced any anti-German feelings. People were interested in my personality rather than my nationality. That's what matters, I guess. In a nutshell, it was a great and important experience I would not want to miss.

I can understand a lot of what my fellow countrymen and -women wrote, though. I grew up in the belief that it is "politically correct" and desirable to be free from patriotism though I never felt guilty for my country's past. I used to think that it is a coincidence what nationality I am by birth, therefore I don't want to be seen as a German, or European for that matter, but simply as a person.
What I find quite interesting is that now the Germans, "us" (I find it sort of strange to use that word, as if I did not belong to them), are actually encouraged by people from other countries to feel proud of their (our) nation. Why is this, I'm wondering? Is it because it's a "natural" thing? I'm very curious to see whether it's just inspired by the WC or if it's going to last longer...

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  • 91.
  • At 09:38 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Stefan wrote:

i think the we all have to learn about each other, so we can get rid of our prejudces. the best thing for this is europe, the fifa wm is just the beginning. lets support both!

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  • 92.
  • At 09:54 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • wayne wrote:

I am german with two grandfathers who served in the war. My father was born in the Ukraine, my family was scattered. There was a dark past but I was born 20 years after the - conflict. I have visited England more than 10 times in last years and will continue to come to England because of its great people.
I am a German in europe and I consider England to be our most important partner. Yes, I think England is Europe. The old one.
The british humour is unique but - believe it or not - germans can show some symptoms of humour also. As long as you don't mention the war. And the people I know want even get over that.
I am still not shure if the words of german politicians are meant as a very special german joke when they said: "ah, no fear, the showing of the flag is not patriotism, its something else, something harmless."
Showing the flag is patriotic and thats fine. I think that Germany can be proud of the way the games are hosted. Ok, the sandwiches could be better and we will work on the service. But this event as a whole has united the country more than anything else and this patriotism is in my eyes nothing negative. When I see the flying flags I feel that the country it symbolizes is one worth to visit. Welcome now and in the future. If we hopefully meet in the final then the best should win.
Wayne

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  • 93.
  • At 10:13 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Alexandra wrote:

Hi,

I totally agree with Stefan: get rid of prejudices.
I was at the LIVE8 concert in London last year. When all the locations were shown on video screens the people were very enthusiastic but when Berlin appeared on the screen nearly every one barracked the Germans. I could not believe what happened. standing there within so many people who had come to do something good and then this.
I am glad to read that there might be a change in people's opinion.
I really like what currently happens in Germany. It is a big party and we all have fun (even those who don't like soccer). It is a very healthy patriotism and I think we deserve it.

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  • 94.
  • At 10:30 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Andreas wrote:

come on guys ( and girls ) , come to teh point. It IS a really big party at the moment. I'm still wondering about some issues and hoping Aldi and Lidl won't close at 8 p.m again after the world cup ;)
Regarding the humour: not even all but a lot of of us german know about ironic and sarcasm ...trust me :-)


and to the politic discussion here the past posts: that little crazy guy bomb the world....yes with that horrible speech....he was a Austrian, not a german ...( okay, this was a bit too sarcastic I think. )

I know about the past but I'm glad to be not a victim of it.


.......by the way......you are losing this game against the swedish....HOW COULD YOU DO THAT? ...again penalty with the germans :-)))

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  • 95.
  • At 10:30 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • T. K. wrote:

Thanks for pointing out that we Germans are not only about Überholprestige or «Made in Germany»-quality. We are also "only human" as well. The funny thing is that Germans hated themselves (like in a love-hate relationship) for centuries. This is typical for Germans. We always complain about everything (you will notice that when you hear the Germans debate about the economy). But at least this huge event brings out some better sides of us. ;-) (I hope that your impression is not only made because of drinking too much beer -- oh my gosh, you seem to be able to drink a lot more than we do...)

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  • 96.
  • At 10:33 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Ute wrote:

What's so different with this world cup? Did you not notice at the word cup in 1974, which has been hosted by Germany as well, the we Germans are as nice, friendly and normal people as you British and English are?

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  • 97.
  • At 10:34 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Andreas (from above) wrote:

definitely more than we can drink...I was wondering how much after I was out with a englisch guy yesterday.....my head's still burning

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  • 98.
  • At 10:38 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Chris wrote:

Torsten,

I do not know what you do for life, but I am guessing you have attended free (well, tax-based) lower and higher education and also receive some benefits (such as healthcare) from the government. Why then can you not at least be grateful for those things. If you really don't like it just leave!

There are also many other countries in this world where you would not be able to be so openly critical of the country of birth. Nobody asks you to patriotic, but don't ruin the mood for the rest of us. It must feel great to be constantly apologizing and ridiculing your own people and avoid the responsibility as a citizen to actively participate. I live in the US and I find it quite nice how its people show their flag and respect for their country. It is true, Germans (and also others) slaughtered millions of people, but you also forget that just as many risked their lives to topple that dreadful NAZI regime. And also: Before you start defaming the goold ol' black-red-gold, you might want to acknowlegde that this flag was burned by the Nazis because it stood for freedom and democracy. And no, this is not revisionist thinking!

Finally:

A country and its people can only be respectful of others if it respects itself.

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  • 99.
  • At 10:41 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Petra wrote:

I'm a German and I can't tell you how proud I am to hear all this positiv words about Germany and the Germans. Normally I'm not so into sports - but this...
You just have to go out, party and meet people. And for the first time in years
nobody is shocked 'cause I am german and I now how to have fun.
I've been to the UK several times in the last years and was asked every day where I'm from, because nobody expected me to be german. I really think this is going to chance now. How beautifull!

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  • 100.
  • At 11:02 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Chris wrote:

Hats of to all the teams and players! You guys have ALL been wonderful and I can't wait to see the rest of the games. To all the fans, be they German, English or any other nation: Enjoy the aferparties since this is where they serve the "real" beer;)

ps. Klinsi, you made us proud! May the football gods be with you:)

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  • 101.
  • At 11:10 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Andreas (a different one) wrote:

I think there are no more Englishmen reading this threat as patriotism vs. Torsten-ism (cashing in as much as you can from your country but hating it for exactly that) is a typical German issue. No other country would ever have the same problems. Did you see/hear how the English fans in Cologne tonite kept repeating singing their national anthem over and over again?

Eigentlich könnten wir hier auf Deutsch weiter diskutieren... ;-)

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  • 102.
  • At 11:24 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • fritz wrote:

hey guys,
don't loose all of your prejudices - they are too much fun... anyway they work just because there some kind of deep respect for each other since more than 100 years.

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  • 103.
  • At 11:31 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Constantin wrote:

Hey everybody,
seems like the Germans are taking over this blog after tagesschau.de posted the link...let's call it the "blog-blitz"...just kidding, I'm German aswell.
Anyway, I can't explain how happy I am to see so many fans from all over turn this event in to a international love-fest. Let's hope it erases a few of the prejudices that still exist among some people.

Regarding the relationship that Germans have to their country I would like to add my personal perspective:
As a young German I see my countries history as a reflection of all traits of character that rest in mankind. The philosophical achievements of Kant contrasted by the insane cruelties of the holocaust. We started two world wars, killed millions of innocent people, were divided, reunited and played a part in the most remarkable peaceful turnaround of an entire continent. Quite a story, but not always a nice one. Is it thus possible to love this country? Well, sometimes you love somebody not due to his or her perfection, but rather their complexity and their entire character. History should be learned from and by trying to be the best hosts possible we can set a sign that we have indeed learned quiet a bit. Hope you read this Torsten!

But hey, it's time to return some of the Anglo-German loving :)
I would like to emphasize the surpreme sportsmenship of the English fans. It is great to see how fans disrespect any player who takes a dive during the game - best attitude in the world!!!

Keep on partying and enjoy the world cup in Germany

Constantin

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  • 104.
  • At 11:52 PM on 20 Jun 2006,
  • Benjamin wrote:

As a kraut from germany i want to thank you all for your nice comments. they are able to change my point of view about the british, too; but it was never bad!
but i hope we will keep our rivalry when we play football against each other.
lets meet in the final in berlin! may the better team win, but if that is you, please score real goals ;-)
May god save the Queen, who said in berlin 2004, that stereotypes wither in the face of human contact.

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  • 105.
  • At 12:00 AM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Kerstin wrote:

I live in New Zealand and used to live in England for some years. My husband is from England and was the reason why I moved there. Never in my dreams did I think I would return to England after some bad experiences during an exchange. (Some of my class mates were beaten up because they spoke german). The same with the Netherlands. When I was a child and on vacation I would get dark glances as soon I opened my mouth and I did not understand what I've done to deserve this. Another country not to ever visit again I thought a while later. But in fact travelling and meeting people from other contries is the best thing you can do to get to really know each other. Confrontation and well considered discussions can help to turn prejudice into tollerance and respect for each other. Wherever I go I'm very happy to mention from where I am.

I met many brits, dutch and other nationals during the last ten years and find most of them have developed a relaxed and modern view about modern Germany. We are also intelligent enough to distinguish between sensational press and serious media.

Thanks for Larrys statement. I agree with you.

I wish I could be in Cologne right now, my hometown. I would love to share this very special atmosphere and drink some Koelsch on the grass beside the rhine. *seufz*

Have a great time all of you!!

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  • 106.
  • At 12:05 AM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Andreas wrote:

What a wise lady the Queen is!

Well, no wonder: Afterall she's German! ;-)

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  • 107.
  • At 12:18 AM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Uli wrote:

Greetings from Germany,
after reading all that stuff I'm so proud of being a part of it. It is a great atmosphere here in Germany and love it listening to all the native English speaker or other languages I do not understand. It gives me hope for our world to see how people with so different ethnic backgrounds have fun together.
It is not only changing the international view on Germany, the WC is also changing Germany itself. You feel some connetion and unity between all Germans. And its a good felling to have the possibility of being proud of Germany without feeling kind of strange because of our past.

I'm looking forward to meet more of you great fans.

ULI

ps: I will try to fight against my own (unconcious) prejudices concerning England during my stay (half a year) in botley near southampton

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  • 108.
  • At 12:25 AM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • mclunar wrote:

Just came back from England. I wish they all would read these postings. There's still more than rivalry between the two of us ...
check my URL for more on that subject! ;-)

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  • 109.
  • At 12:53 AM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • gisela diercks wrote:

june 20th,i love the germans and i do hope so very much that the team returns to berlin on july 9th.i wich them all the luck in the world. i hope the country remains peaceful and the games cont. without any problems.i enjoy watching the games in the usa,although i would have loved to see the games in berlin and hamburg. thanks gisela

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  • 110.
  • At 01:56 AM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Anne wrote:

Hey thank you very much for your article and your experiences in Germany. Right now I'm in Canada and this is now the first time I realized that we shouldn't hide ourselves the whole time and be ashamed of our nation etc. The world cup is fun and every German inhabitant should be allowed to show his nationality and can be proud of his nation. Before I went to Canada I never even thought about being proud to be German or having a flag of Germany in my house but here I really experienced what it means to have a spirit and to connect with all the other people from your country. I think it is a really good thing and it doesn't mean that this will lead back to the nationalism!!! Anyways I think that the World cup is an opportunity to bring our people a bit closer and it gives all visitors a chance to see Germany and what it is like right now! :) mhh i guess that i kind of changed the topic or its not all about ur article but I really wanted to say this once! :)
Thank you very much
Anne-17, international student in Canada :)))

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  • 111.
  • At 02:02 AM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Ronald wrote:

"We are not allowed to do this and we have to remember all the bad things that which the germans did.
Everytime we start to doing this many say "NO" to it, because they will remember the german history - why this should be changed only by the worldcup?

I will never be proud of this country were I was born and I will everytime excuse (and pay for -> Israel) the mistakes of our ancestors!
This is the way how it is...

Torsten, 29 years, Germany"


What in the blue hell has gotten into you? Never be proud of this country? We try to be the best hosts we possibly can and give our best in every way - now you say something like that. I tell you something Torsten, no other nation has such a broad knowledge about this dark passage of history! No one will ever forget what happened, but let me tell you that I am proud of what has been accomplished in those past 60 years. I am sick of these people who always try to make everything bad about Germany. Yes - I will always remember what happened, but no - I will not support a negative atmosphere in which everyone thinks it is ok to goof on Germany, because it would devaluate everyone's efforts in trying to make Germany a better place to live in and in making friends with
different people from different countries!

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  • 112.
  • At 02:33 AM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Knut wrote:

As a German I must tell you: It's all acting. Whenever a stranger appears we try to be friendly, especially we do that with Englishmen. ;-)

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  • 113.
  • At 02:38 AM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Benny wrote:

Ok, first of all, thanks for all the positive-toward-germany related comments. The only thing i can say about it, is: It's about Time, cause we aren't that bad... Some even got a glimpse of Irony! ;D

The first time i have been to england, the first words i heard (from an old couple in Canterbury, who noted we are germans) were: "Go home you lost the war!". This was 12 years ago and i was still a 14 year old kid and i assure you, it hurt me very much (i still remember it ;>), because i just didn't understand. It even hurt me more when a guy in a t-shit shop, asked us "are you from germany?" and then after saying "i got something for you!" he offered us nazi-stuff, which i've never seen before in my life!

I hope this kind of attitude will be past for ever! Just see us as most of us are: Kind cosmopolitan people.

Enjoy the WoldCup, party with us!

And try to accept, we're playing good football too. England is owing a proof of their Soccer-Skills at the moment, you have to admit. :p

Nevertheless, fun comes first! Meantime i don't care who wins the Cup, because Germany is already one of the winners. Thank you all.

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  • 114.
  • At 03:07 AM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Kerstin wrote:

Well you have done it. You got me tears in my eyes.
This is such a lovely blog to read. Thank you for all your wonderful comments. I am living in Toronto for about three years now. I have learned that being a German is rather positive. I get a lot of positive feedback and my pride on my country has risen over the time. Let's say I am now more aware of being German.
After 1993 when Stuttgart hosted the World Championships in Track and Fields I knew the world cup will become a huge party. Germans love sports and if there is a good reason to party, we party.

I shared my appartement with an English guy, I had many good laughs with him and over here I got to know even more English friends.
There is a little poking rivalery and we hit on each other once in a while. But it is always good for a laugh - and that's what it is all about.

Laugh with each other and the world is a great place to be.


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  • 115.
  • At 08:45 AM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Maik wrote:

As a German i just can say: Dankeschön! for all that great feedback.

Have a nice WC06.

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  • 116.
  • At 08:59 AM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Uwe wrote:

I´ve complete filled out my World Cup plan before the first match starts and the final match is GER - ENG.
See you in Berlin.

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  • 117.
  • At 09:22 AM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • viv wrote:

when i read the first article i felt a bit embarrased, like what the hell did they expect? that we germans are unhuman, a grey mass of no humour, stubborn, unsocial and intolerant towards other nations? of course we are not! like all the comments do confirm, to my relief. i do love the english language, like a lot of my friends, and i like the clichees we germans have about the britisch! (hehe)

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  • 118.
  • At 09:46 AM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Bloxer wrote:

Thank you guys for all the nice comments.

You know, we Germans just saved all the good jokes, for so many years, in case the world cup may return someday. And it has....

Greetings from Hamburg

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  • 119.
  • At 09:47 AM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Bloxer wrote:

Thank you guys for all the nice comments.

You know, we Germans just saved all the good jokes, for so many years, in case the world cup may return someday. And it has....

Greetings from Hamburg

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  • 120.
  • At 10:08 AM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • sp-muc wrote:

Hi everyone,

I have been reading this blog now for about half an hour, and reading these friendly statements from british fans and friends just gives me the creeps. Thanks a lot.

I have always been annoyed by the unfair British and German tabloid press that tries to keep up anachronisms that derive from aur predecessors.

My desire to all intelligent guys in Britain and Germany: Give the tabloids hell. And the best way to do so is: Stop buying Sun and BILD.

By the way: I spent one of the best weekends in my life in London in 2000, where I saw Bon Jovi at Wembley Stadium (one of the last concerts performed there before it was closed down, I believe).

Best wishes from Munich, welcome to Germany and especially Bavaria (Seppelhut and Lederhosn Country (((-;). Enjoy the games.

Stefan

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  • 121.
  • At 10:08 AM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • John wrote:

Not long time ago, I would never have expected such nice words about Germany from an Anglo-American point of view, because of the stereotypes widely transported through the media (especially the English) about the beer drinking, leatherhosen-wearing, German skinhead with lack of humour.
I hope (and think) your experience is the opposite (FYI only about 0,0000001% of German population is wearing leatherhosen on a daily basis :-) )

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  • 122.
  • At 10:12 AM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Frederic wrote:

Thanks for all the good feedback. We are very happy to host the world cup 2006. It's a fantastic atmosphere here in Frankfurt, where I live. At "Main Arena" many peoples to come show the games - peoples from all the world. It's very important for us to convert our slogan "The world to guest with friends" ("Die Welt zu Gast bei Freund") to you... The world championship helped us to find the way back a piece of our "we-feeling".

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  • 123.
  • At 10:28 AM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • christian kanele wrote:

Hi,
I am a German expart in Switzerland. So I can see the WC06 from a very different angle (Switzerland is Group leader at the moment!).
When I read about the yesterday's results I was happy on the one hand (Germany wins over Ecuador)on the other hand I am scared what will happen with the "U.K. starts to love the Sauerkrauts"-feeling when both teams meet each other on the green field. I am happy that the English start perceiving Germany differently. The more I am scared which atmosphere will be heated up in the tabloids (German as well as English) when "Rooney meets Ballack".
B.T.W.: I have the largest British royals mug collection on the Continent.
:-))

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  • 124.
  • At 10:46 AM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Karl Lynch wrote:

I have to say that I am glad the English perception of the Germans seems to be shifting. I have lived here for three years now and find the Germans extremely friendly.

What must be said about all the English people (I'm Irish) posting their comments here is that you have to give yourselves credit for the attitude you have shown to the German people. A lot of English fans came here carrying many years of social prejudices and from what I have seen these prejudices have been cast aside very quickly by the many English fans that I have met. I haven't heard bad words from any German fan about the English Fans and the English fans deserve a lot of credit for that and likewise haven't heard any bad words about the Germans from the English.

Keep up the good show!!!

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  • 125.
  • At 11:15 AM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Tomski wrote:

Hey guys,
I as a German am very pleased by all your positive comments I just read.
It makes me feel really proud to see how you are having a good time with us. I am spending most of the time at the public viewings in Dortmund (yes, as a student I can afford that *g*) and it was incredibly great. I have had beers together with people from so many countries that I even stopped counting ;) Even with people from Trinidad & Tobago which I especially liked for their Carribean relaxedness ^^
It is wonderful to realize that you guys really like staying here with us. I am now convinced that we are great hosts, but you are also wonderful guests :)
There is no "send the foe back" anymore, everyone is having fun with everyone, regardless of the nationality, which turns the whole country into the biggest party of this summer of love ;)
This shows to me that people are quite the same everywhere on this planet. There are no borders. A smile and a good joke can carry me thousands of miles.
Thank you all of being so peaceful and willing to party!!!
Enjoy your stay here, and as a little hint: If you go to Dortmund without a ticket, try to get inside the Westfalenhallen (www.fancampdortmund.de), a stonethrow away from the stadium. Cheap and wonderful place to party and stay the night with thousands of people from all over the world, and of course all matches shown on bigscreen :)

Keep on partying here and let's all work together making this World Cup one that won't be forgotten that fast!

Oh, and don't mention the war ;)

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  • 126.
  • At 11:19 AM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Thomas wrote:

hello, i come from potsdam near berlin and read your comment with interests.
george, you´re right. no question about that. but i can see that problem in many faces in every "sophisticated" european country. i also don´t want to go alone through some suburbs of paris for example (just to pay no attention to gb). no alibi, just a hint. i think thats not a german, it´s a problem and a challenge for our todays society. ps: apologize for my solecisms (:

wish you a nice time in germany!

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Hi everybody,

I'm very happy that English people start seeing "Theee Germanz" (quote of "Snatch" movie) differently. I've lived in the UK for a while a couple of years ago when I was 16. During that time I realised how many common prejudges there are toward German people (I'm NOT saying that there aren't as many on the other side..) in England.
I'm very sad that I can't experience this change now since I'm currently based in south India for a longer period of time. Apart from having a great time over here I'm seriously unhappy about not being able to join the biggest party of my lifetime which is right now going on back home in Germany...
Oh and if the English team will really meet the German one in the World Cup I'm sure that the majority of the fans will not give up their new friendships with either side!

Joh from the sub-continent

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  • 128.
  • At 12:00 PM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Rex Kessler wrote:

Hi eveybody,

as a young german who has been travelling around the world quiet a bit, i am soooo happy to see those various people from around the world havin a good time in germany!!
this is a wonderful experience and i am having a hard time finding the appropriate words to describe my feelings about this. especially in these difficult times which seem to be full of hate, distrust and prejudices its a relief to see that people with most different cultural background can have a great deal in common: we are all humans, love the game, and love to celebrate this fest together.
thanks to everyone around the world for those good vibes!!! really gives me some hope for mankind!even if england should win the cup

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  • 129.
  • At 12:01 PM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Sebastian wrote:

Nice opinion about Germany. I hope the Champion will be an European country. From Berlin to London...Waw

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  • 130.
  • At 12:49 PM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Olaf Boeing wrote:

Actually, being a good host is mandatory. However I would also not be unhappy if Germany finishes first :)

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  • 131.
  • At 01:04 PM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Andreas wrote:

nobody out there probably understands what this means to us here in germany. i am 36 years old, and, like everyone here, grwe up with a feeling of shame, shame of the most barbarian crimes in modernity. a shame that is difficult to carry when you are young. i love my country. it is not better or worse then any other, but it influenced me, and it shaped me, and like veryone else, i wanna be comfortable with it. the last 60 years have been a permanent effort to reintegrate ourselves into a family of peace-loving, relaxed, civilised nations, and it dominated every aspect of political and social life. every aspect. there is a very, very strong feeling that we achieved it, and it is breaking free in these days, and it is beautyful. it is amazing. that is what the flag waving is all about, the smiles and the relief to have the world here, and to enjoy every minute of it. i do not think you can really understand what that means. a country - happy, and loosing it´s demons. these days will change germany forever.

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Thanks to all who wrote so many positive words about Germany and the Germans. But it's not only the Germans who are responsible for the lots of positive vibrations arising all over the country around this world cup. To me it's also you! The people from all over the world, that come to visit us, to watch the matches in the stadiums, at the public viewings or in the bars. The people who join on the streets, dancing and partying together no matter where they come from. This is really great. To me the most surprising thing, that I hope will last for a very long time, is the great amount of smiling faces on the street, enjoying their lives, talking and smiling to unknown people. I never expected something like that being possible in Germany. So again, thanks to all of you and let's hope the this great event will continue peacefully.

Greetings from Dortmund

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  • 133.
  • At 01:22 PM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Peter wrote:

Hy I am German and I am very proud that I can read these nice post about Germany, about me! Thanks!!

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  • 134.
  • At 01:23 PM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Ametyst wrote:

Hi everyone!

I'm really wonderfully surprised to read all the positive comments about Germany - and I can't wait to feel the atmosphere myself, we're heading for Germany on Saturday! We're boarding the ferry at the same time that Germany's playing Sweden. I'm glad it's Sweden so I'm not missing an encounter with England, hehe!

I'm a German living in Scotland. I have not had any bad experiences at all but it appears that it is more the English that are obsessed with the War (and Nazis) rather than the Scottish. Most of the WWII and Hitler stuff is in fact coming from England, incl the 'Hitler Channel' on TV (officially known as UKTV History). Not a day without at least one programme on the subject not to mention the occasional all-day special. That's just frustrating in my eyes. No wonder the relationship can't improve if British TV [and newspapers] always refer back to the one thing. Also, History lessons in British schools focus on WWII extensively but anything later than that and what has happened in Germany since is being blissfully blanked. It was shocking to read about Benny's experiences in Canterbury but it's not suprising really when you look at the above.

As for the humour: Germans do have humour - the British just don't understand our humour as a lot of it is based on the language itself, the way the sentences are formed and the prounciation. Sometimes something said in a really serious voice is indeed rather funny - because it was spoken in a serious voice! That it of course hard to translate and the humour gets lost. Another thing is that humour varies from region to region with the local dialect. Also hard to grasp in tranlation. British humour is often based on play with words and sexual situations. Both do not really work in German. Let's face it, British people/society is relatively prude compared to Germans so jokes on sexuality are not that impressive to Germans. Just one thing: no one in Germany would ever go to a sauna with the swimsuit on! :-)

I think it is time that the German people find their national pride again. I'm sick and tired of the governmentally decreed "but think of the past- we've got to keep a low profile!" thing, stop teaching this to the children in German schools! Would you believe I have not once sung the German national anthem in my 32 years of age!

I think part of the misery in Germany is the lack of national pride, this is what keeps people of East and West 'emotionally' apart even after 16 years. It is time to come together as one nation and value the variety of culture we have in Germany!

On a lighter note: I am very happy to see that my country is getting positive press at last! Thanks everyone who has been to Germany and found the experience worthwhile. Spread the word!

*Ametyst*

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  • 135.
  • At 02:53 PM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Bea wrote:

Guten Tag all :-)

I took my time to read Laura´s article and all 138 replies. My chin is wobbly and my tissue wet from the little tears that I wiped away in the last half hour.

Ametyst, you wee gem, you hit the nail on the head with your observations. You saved me some time because I would have written more or less the same.

Auf Wiedersehen in Germany. ANY TIME you come to my country is "A time to meet friends"

Tschüss and regards from Gelsenkirchen

Bea

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  • 136.
  • At 03:07 PM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Ben wrote:

Finally ...

...someone pulled those stick out of those german ar*&es!

It's an overwhelming feeling (for a "Kraut") reading
over all those comments!
Most has already been said so I'll try to keep it short.

In a post-war Germany being proud of your country used to be
a rather diffucult task. Just a few years back the majority of people would have considered someone with a german flag on his car a Nazi.

Not anymore!!!

To me, you make the difference this time - YOU, the rest of the world.
You are the ones that "granted" Germany the right to a new kind of
national pride - a pride pretty much every country has but one that
Germany coulnd't afford. A pride that has nothing to do with facism!
Germany has to thank you!

We just want to give you a little something in return. And everybody
who has been here before knows that Germans can have a good time.
As many others before I think the sense of humour got lost in translation
since we started saying more than "Jawohl mein Führer".

I think this "little" football-event made it possible for Europe to grow together in a way none of us would have expected.
Come on England! We'll squeeze together over here!

Let's just hope that this spirit remains long after Germany has won the
world cup ;)

So come on over and let's all party together peacefully
"Forgive, but don't forget!"

Cheers mates! See you in the final!

Ben

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  • 137.
  • At 06:28 PM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • TheWurst wrote:

A. Harris, glad to see that you`re back in your cave - have a nice time there. And to everyone who lives in 2006: welcome to Germany and thanks for all the positive comments ;)


PS: little boys are not as dangerous as they might look like, so please don`t be scared

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  • 138.
  • At 07:34 PM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Thomas wrote:

Harris,

you are a dumb idiot. I don't think that you really had been to Germany these days. And comparing today's pride in Germany (because of the World Cup) with 1933 is really more than ridiculous - it's stupid!
Shame on you, you dumbass!

Thomas

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  • 139.
  • At 07:50 PM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • nouseforaname wrote:

To A. Harris:
Named after the general, aren't you? Or are you the general? Could be since you claim to remember 1933.

But what disturbed me (as a german) the most about your message: you call football soccer. How weird is that?

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  • 140.
  • At 08:17 PM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Alexander Wolfeil wrote:

Hello everybody,

i was in Frankfurt when England had their first game. The English fans where really nice. On thing astonished me. A drunken fan gave a dosser money. The British are nice people.

Thanks Alex

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  • 141.
  • At 08:18 PM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Boris wrote:

A. Harris:

It's people like you who refuse to accept reality and thereby keep outdated prejudice alive.

Must suck to be stuck in 1945. Should I ever invent a time machine I might stop by and take you to the 21st century. Or at least to the year 1990 where you shall spend the rest of your days watching the penalty shotout between England and Germany on continuous loop...

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  • 142.
  • At 08:50 PM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Fritz A. Berendsen wrote:

So finally a Fritz has to put in his halfpennies-worth.I enjoyed reading the 144 blogs immensly.What a solace!
To look back in history a little.The greatest disservice a king did to his country, was K.Richards Splendid
Isolation.That cut England off from the developement of the rest of the "world". His little daughter,though,when she "spake" used
German syntax. Why did her paps have to do it,for sex ofcourse.Then came the time that all the royals merrily
intermarried,German & English.No internatl. competition.Clara Schumann
writes to her beau John Brahms in Ischl, how much she looks forward to a concert at St.James Hall.Now start the crazy times,when goggling at a cuetie the guy comes over to ask to
pistols at 5 am.(Today in Munich you
admire a cookie a guy brought over for the WM he thanks you for good tast(his) and asks you to join everybody for a beer.) Then everybody gets filthy rich and think they cany stand the other relative
getting rich too.So they have two wars.One looses his shirt & pants,the
other an empire.So we're equal again.
Clara Schumann comes over to play piano and you come over to play Football.The only sad thing about this is,though,that it took us 100 years to find that out. In the USA
where I live,as a good kraut, they say: "Play Ball!!!"Regards Fritz

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  • 143.
  • At 08:58 PM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Sam wrote:

I am English, but have lived in Hermany all my life. Thankyou for all these friendly Comments. Our local radio station (SWR 3) is operating a traffic service for everybody visiting the WC. Every half an hour everything important is broadcasted in english, Frence and Spanish. Nationalism? No way. We have got a 1.5 * 2,5 metre England flag hanging outside our house. A few neighbours accross the road have hung up a massive Croatian flag, on the other side of our small village there is an Equadorian flag. I hope it changes the English attitude towards the Germans. Oh, and for everybody who thinks IKEA is German: It is Swedish.

And for Harris: Ever heard of Stauffenberg, The White Rose or Admiral Canaris? Seen any of the various Jewish monuments? DO know what black red gold stands for? I suggest you get to know modern Germany a bit better before you believe the wonderful fairy tales the SUN writes about.

Greetings from Germany and have fun

Sam

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  • 144.
  • At 09:06 PM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Christian wrote:

Thank you all for your nice comments about germany. It's amazing how much the last 2 or 3 weeks could change, in the way many people in the world see germany. I just spend 9 months studentexchange in the US and some of my freinds asked me if we still live in the zones or if Hitler is still alive. I sayed to both questions no and that I'm verry proud to be a german. All the people I know are verry nice and we know how to party .
Germany is modern Country at wich we can be proud. We wennt over so much trouble in WW1 and WW2, but know you don't notice it anymore. We are no Nazis anymore. Were are know an nice Contry wich is open for all people of the world.
i have although been in Uk and I must say that the US and the Uk are both are although 2 verry nice contries. Bye and Thank you verry much for your comments.
( But sorry guys that we will win the Cup )

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  • 145.
  • At 10:18 PM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Philip wrote:

"Torsten" and "Harris" seem to be Nazis joking with
arguments, they regard as to be "left".
Go to hell and this time for ever!

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  • 146.
  • At 10:26 PM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Sebastian wrote:

Hi!

I'm German, working as a volunteer in the stadium of Gelsenkirchen and I'm deeply impressed of the ambience and the spirit which we are living these days here in Germany. I've been living abroad for two years now and EVEN ME, as a German, am really blasted by the friendlyness and the open way to try to help people my compatriots are showing. It's amazing to hear from so many people how much they like our country and how much they appreciate us as hosts to the world. Thank you all for your visit to our country and for sharing your experiences in this threat! Hopefully you can tell everybody out there that we are not the same guys stereotyped as all around the world, sometimes, and that we have a great country welcoming everyone as a friend!
Nevertheless, we should change the official slogan "A Time To Make Friends" (Die Welt zu Gast bei Freunden) into "Making friends with the WorldCup Winner" (Die Welt zu Gast beim Weltmeister) ;-) Good luck to everyone! SCHLAAAAAAND!

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  • 147.
  • At 11:20 PM on 21 Jun 2006,
  • Christoph wrote:

1. That's the problem of many germans: they're bloody masochists.
2. An alle deutschen:
Die werden ihre Meinung noch ändern, wenn wir die Inselaffen/Segelohren erstmal rausgekickt haben, und Weltmeister sind. ;)


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  • 148.
  • At 02:28 AM on 22 Jun 2006,
  • Ralf, Germany, Cologne wrote:

I have to admit, that I really do not like to eat "SAUERKRAUT", although I am German. Please believe me: This is not an inconsequential detail, because at present people from all over the world have to realise, that the Germans are different than what they think them to be. Most of my fellow countrymen (and I) are not that kind of impolite and unhelpful people without any sense of humor. I am sure, that most of the WORLD CUP visitors are going to change their idea in respect of the attitude towards life in Germany while celebrating and taking part in such a great event. I am happy to read such well-meaning comments about German people and their hospitality, which has been proved since the opening of the FIFA WORLD CUP 2006. As a German I do hope that all of you will remember my native land as a modern country with great cultural backround consisting of open-minded people: Welcome to Germany all the time :) Greets, Ralf

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  • 149.
  • At 08:49 AM on 22 Jun 2006,
  • Frank wrote:

German-British-Friendship

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  • 150.
  • At 08:53 AM on 22 Jun 2006,
  • Frank wrote:

Als Deutscher möchte ich mich bei den Engländern für diese netten Worte bedanken! Wir sehen uns im Finale in Berlin!!!


As a German I would like to thank the Englishmen for these nice words! We see ourselves in the finale in Berlin!!!

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  • 151.
  • At 08:32 PM on 22 Jun 2006,
  • Michael wrote:

referring to chucky (No 155)

Here we go again ....

Being part of a good host doesn´t neccessarily make a good guest, too....

The world will last longer than this little tournament.

Bye, Michael

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  • 152.
  • At 02:00 AM on 23 Jun 2006,
  • BigBen wrote:

Krauts shut up :-))

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  • 153.
  • At 10:21 AM on 23 Jun 2006,
  • Astrid wrote:

Whoa...

I think I'm gonna start a Sauerkraut-Export company. Seems I might make a lot of money with that in the UK... ;-P

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  • 154.
  • At 02:16 PM on 23 Jun 2006,
  • ruud wrote:

england sucks.
and to the idiot above me-germany has organized the world cup.
not blatter,hes a sukkel.
and...the east of germany is more modern and clean than england.
i know the dirty english cities-bah!
im from the netherlands but i really love germany.its a wonderful country and the cities are gorgeous!!!
and...
my best friends are germans.
its incredible-people from england dont like germans,but they drive german cars(mercedes,porsche,audi,vw,bmw...)
they wearing german sportswear(adidas,puma) and they eat haribo...
im sure english people are really jealous of germany and holland,because they are not as rich as germans or dutchies!!!thats the reason why they are frustrated.

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  • 155.
  • At 02:30 PM on 23 Jun 2006,
  • Dirk from germany wrote:

Hello England ,

Many thanks for all these friendly comments about the german !

Welcome ,have fun at WC´06

Dirk from germany


p.s.(Chucky!!!... Shut up!)

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  • 156.
  • At 02:54 PM on 23 Jun 2006,
  • Vince wrote:

referring to contrarian:

you have obviously no idea what you are talking about. This World Cup is of course organized by the German Oranization Committee around the omnipresent Franz Beckenbauer NOT by the Swiss. Get your information right: Fifa is BASED in Switzerland but NOT Swiss! And the World Cup is always organized by the host nation.

Otherwise I simply ignore what you had to say cause we all have our own opinion and the right to talk about it.

That being said by an American who has been to Germany and I can so not agree with what you are saying about your own country... you have no idee... sorry.

Keep on with the good job Germany. Hats up.

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  • 157.
  • At 03:15 PM on 23 Jun 2006,
  • Ametyst wrote:


@159 (Contrarian)

Hope you have left Germany because it's due to people such like yourself that keep Germany's reputation down. If you don't like it - leave!

You seem a rather frustrated person as well for whatever reason. Remember, it's up to yourself to make your life and not to any government and governmental organisation. Not sure what sort of people you know and are surrounded by either because none of the points you so heartily describe match any of the people I know.

Get a life, deary - and stop being miserable.


@158 (Astrid)

You can buy Sauerkraut in any major supermarket over here already, so there goes your business idea, sorry! ;-) However... if you'd like to start a company selling decent bread I'm all for it! *giggle*


*Ametyst*

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  • 158.
  • At 03:20 PM on 23 Jun 2006,
  • Heiko Goetze wrote:

I´m really impressed of all these comments and to be honest I never expect that, but whoever I met in the cities or in the stadiums, they all say the same, Germany tooks our heart, people from Argentina, England, Brasil, Iran...I´m a 28 years old german and worked abroad in UK, US and even Latin America and wherever I met people they couldn´t believe that I´m German. I guess specially the younger generation, my generation, is really warm-hearted, open-minded and a fun-loving generation and the world cup is showing Germany´s real face and I would be glad if the British Media would end up with their old stereotypes. I have a bunch of friends in England and I like to be your in your country as well and it´s true a lot Germans do have sympathy for the English football wearing your shirts.

Our guests are our friends...

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  • 159.
  • At 09:18 PM on 23 Jun 2006,
  • volker wrote:

what else is left to say.
i don't like germany...i don't like england... i don't like itay....
but i like berlin....and london...and rome, munich, liverpool....
it's just europe...and yes i am proud to be a european....

nowadays it's a great feeling.....volker.....(a european from germany)

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  • 160.
  • At 09:21 PM on 23 Jun 2006,
  • volker wrote:

what else is left to say.
i don't like germany...i don't like england... i don't like itay....
but i like berlin....and london...and rome, munich, liverpool....
it's just europe...and yes i am proud to be a european....

nowadays it's a great feeling.....volker.....(a european from germany)

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  • 161.
  • At 01:32 AM on 24 Jun 2006,
  • Nane wrote:

Well...I have to say, that: YES, we do have television!!! AND we are a modern country with great people who really know how to party!! And thank you all so much for the very, very nice and great comments about Germany.

I think, that it is so sad, that still so many people (English and Americans) think, that we Germans are still living in the medival times!! No, come on it's 2006...don't you guys know that!!

To all people who wrote these great things about Germany: THANK YOU!! I really hope, that the attitude of those, thinking we are from the moon will change in the future!

And thanks for making the FIFA worldcup so great!!

It's gorgeous partying with all of you guys!!

I hope you will enjoy your trip to Germany...and probably you will come back someday!!

Thanks for the great blog here at BBC...

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  • 162.
  • At 02:00 AM on 24 Jun 2006,
  • The Kraut wrote:

All so nice to hear the mostly positive comments about how great we Germans and English find each other now meeting at the WC and all of this hugging and complementing of each other, really touching, ...where is my handkerchief when I need it ...*sob*...

Well, I'm sorry to destroy the harmony, but I am not so optimistic it will last a long while or that it holds true regarding the mass(es) of people in general.
It is indeed wonderful but it does not help a lot if there are individuals of both cultures that meet each other and learn to appreciate each other if it only happens on World Cups or by some private initiatives or as exchange students passing a year abroad. I know some English people myself and yes, we like each other personally. I even lived in England for 3/4 of a year, so it is not that I don't know what I am talking about.

But there is a difference to consider: Personal level vs. social grouping / national identities.
Biases, preconceptions and ignorance between members of a culture or nation are long-lasting and it will still take years, maybe another 50 or more, before a 'real' change of perceptions between the German and the English can take place.
There is not much hope it would happen any sooner. I will not repeat again the firmness and perseverance of all the sterotypes and silly jokes from the "oh so funny" Brits about the Krauts, this has been done sufficiently here.
But just take a look once more at the 'typical mob behaviour' in England. Let's take two examples, one of which is from this blog in a comment already:
- post # 96 above mentions Live8 , when the Berlin transmission began, the crowd started to boo because it was a concert from Germany
- just go into a pub in London (or elsewhere in England) and observe the people watching a football game of Germany play against another team but NOT England - and the other team scores. They will cheer in the SAME way as if England has scored a goal (which would be natural then). Why? Simply because they despise Germany and want to see it lose against whoever. These things do not happen in Germany if an England game is on (against another team except Germany). Unfortunately I must say now. I cannot understand some Germans here who are supporting or admiring English football or the English team - hey guys - you are like Jesus to me, really. Offer your right cheek after havin been slapped constantly on the left one....

It is sad but true:
The "English" as a collective still want to be our ENEMIES (yes, I am choosing WAR language now, so the Brits will like and understand it better, do you?). They deliberately CHOOSE to be our ENEMIES. They want to be it. That's a fact, accept it.

That is why I want England to be knocked out of the contest as soon as possible (before July 9th of course)! Get out of our wonderful country again, please. It is my right to say I don't like "the English" for a good reason since you "English" do not like us - or me personally because of the country I was born in.
And this will hold for years to come. I might change my opinion as soon as "they" change their behaviour, as soon as I can enter a Pub in England with out being looked at with derision or hate if my German accent is heard. I regret I will not live to see this happen. The majority of common Brits are ignorant and will remain this way for many years to come.

Sorry guys. Enjoy and dream on your World Cup dream of peace and harmony. But this is REALITY.
Bash me now if you like, but prove anyone to me that the facts I mention are wrong (Brit or German), and please bear in mind once again that I did not talk about personal relationships.

Cheers,
Proud to be a Kraut (nice rhyme)

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  • 163.
  • At 06:31 AM on 24 Jun 2006,
  • Martin wrote:

Hi guys,
I am a German, studying abroad in Australia. I am really happy about the positive feedback. Every foreigner seems to like Germany for many rasons we take for granted, the only negative comments here are actually from Germans themself.
Germany has become one of the leading economies because they always tried to improve. We are rarely satisfied, while others say "well, we got a situation, I can live with it" the Germans tend to say "well, we got a situation, I can live with it, but this, this, this and this it not perfect yet, how can we improve?". In Germany, complaining is considered as a good thing, as it helps improving. In one way, its true, it helps to keep on moving, improving, but sometimes we tend to block ourself with this attitude.
Thats how it was, it is and probably will be for good. I am fine with that to a certain state. What I am not fine with is, that some Germans (The Kraut just above) use to destroy good and optimistic thoughts. I see this blog as a very big compliment I really appreciate. I have been a couple of times in England, and yes, also I had bad experiences, but I had them in Germany, in Spain, in whereever, even Australia (sorry dudes), too. But most of the experiences had were great, and thats what counts. I think in a wold where globalization takes place more than ever we finally should come over this stereotype thinking. The worst you can do is to generalize. Sure, there are tendencies in the whole, but rarely in the individuum itself, the word "individuum" already says.
I am proud of my country, I am proud to have many friend from all over the world and I am proud that we gonna win the WC ;)! But I am sick off those people (unfortunately we Germans tend to be like that) who talk everything down. These are not the people who improved. Those are the people, who actually block.
Thank you onces more for the blog!!!
Martin

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  • At 06:36 AM on 24 Jun 2006,
  • Martin wrote:

Hi guys,
I am a German, studying abroad in Australia. I am really happy about the positive feedback. Every foreigner seems to like Germany for many rasons we take for granted, the only negative comments here are actually from Germans themself.
Germany has become one of the leading economies because they always tried to improve. We are rarely satisfied, while others say "well, we got a situation, I can live with it" the Germans tend to say "well, we got a situation, I can live with it, but this, this, this and this it not perfect yet, how can we improve?". In Germany, complaining is considered as a good thing, as it helps improving. In one way, its true, it helps to keep on moving, improving, but sometimes we tend to block ourself with this attitude.
Thats how it was, it is and probably will be for good. I am fine with that to a certain state. What I am not fine with is, that some Germans (The Kraut just above) use to destroy good and optimistic thoughts. I see this blog as a very big compliment I really appreciate. I have been a couple of times in England, and yes, also I had bad experiences, but I had them in Germany, in Spain, in whereever, even Australia (sorry dudes), too. But most of the experiences had were great, and thats what counts. I think in a wold where globalization takes place more than ever we finally should come over this stereotype thinking. The worst you can do is to generalize. Sure, there are tendencies in the whole, but rarely in the individuum itself, the word "individuum" already says.
I am proud of my country, I am proud to have many friend from all over the world and I am proud that we gonna win the WC ;)! But I am sick off those people (unfortunately we Germans tend to be like that) who talk everything down. These are not the people who improved. Those are the people, who actually block.
Thank you onces more for the blog!!!
Martin

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  • 165.
  • At 08:43 AM on 24 Jun 2006,
  • Justus wrote:

I also dont like england.they are unschooled and ignorant.
they call the germans "krauts"but they dont know that they are "krauts"too!!!
the english people are people from east-holland and northern germany.
englishman,check out your history-you will see:without germany and holland you wouldnt exist.
but they are only interested in tales of ww2.and thats the other problem-they lost the war against germany(hey,everybody knows-only usa has beaten germany)and germany is better in football...they are bad losers and they wanna see germany as brown noses but we are no brown noses..thats the reason why the most people from potato island are frustrated...

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  • 166.
  • At 02:01 AM on 25 Jun 2006,
  • Rolf Habich wrote:

English friends and fellow Germans:

Let us not get divided by the language of hate and ignorance that is spawned from the mouths of the proles on either side. I think a large part of the Anglo-German antagomism apparent here is due to the fact that here hoards of dumbheaded, misguided individuals from the lower classes see a forum to over-inflate their pitiful (German: "Würstchen") egos and project them onto a larger screen of self-importance. Stupid is as stupid does.

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  • 167.
  • At 02:48 AM on 25 Jun 2006,
  • Julio wrote:

And that comment above shows you that we have our share of pricks too.
Well, at least im sure Justus does not represent the majority of the country.

Sadly im not in germany at the moment but will be there in time for the final. Im planning on going to a big screen + fan fest. Ive been living in England for 12 years (moved here when I was eight) and just finished my A-levels, and I cant go back before the 7th of July.

I really hope that English-German relationships will get better, even if the media on both sides will carry on their annoying traditions.

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  • 168.
  • At 02:49 AM on 25 Jun 2006,
  • Julio wrote:

And that comment above shows you that we have our share of pricks too.
Well, at least im sure Justus does not represent the majority of the country.

Sadly im not in germany at the moment but will be there in time for the final. Im planning on going to a big screen + fan fest. Ive been living in England for 12 years (moved here when I was eight) and just finished my A-levels, and I cant go back before the 7th of July.

I really hope that English-German relationships will get better, even if the media on both sides will carry on their annoying traditions.

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  • 169.
  • At 02:51 AM on 25 Jun 2006,
  • Julio wrote:

And Justus comment shows you that we have our share of pricks too.
Well, at least im sure Justus does not represent the majority of the country.

The lower classes? Please open your eyes.

Sadly im not in germany at the moment but will be there in time for the final. Im planning on going to a big screen + fan fest. Ive been living in England for 12 years (moved here when I was eight) and just finished my A-levels, and I cant go back before the 7th of July.

I really hope that English-German relationships will get better, even if the media on both sides will carry on their annoying traditions.

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  • 170.
  • At 12:29 PM on 25 Jun 2006,
  • Dirk wrote:

I'm glad to see that a lot of people are renewing their picture of Germany. I have worked for more than a year at an international project in Switzerland together with englishmen, dutch people, americans, guys from Poland, Russia, Italia, etc. And everybody said to me that I'm not typically German because I have a sense of humour. I got sick of this stereotype and appreciate that now the people get now a different picture of Germany. I hope this will be the begin of a great friendship between the nations...

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  • 171.
  • At 02:30 PM on 25 Jun 2006,
  • The Kraut wrote:

So you already belong to a share of "pricks" if you are rightfully complaining about the English behaviour....
Ignorant! There are many Germans who feel insulted by this kind of British dumbness and they have a right to express it.

Speaking of "pricks", how about these guys, mostly English (over 300 arrests according to new figures):
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/5112364.stm

So you are not of the opinion that these English "fans" (be they upper, lower or middle class) should be better sent home?

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  • 172.
  • At 03:35 PM on 25 Jun 2006,
  • ben wrote:

There are, of course, some prejudices that we have to keep alive. The weather in England is bad, Germans wear Lederhosen and, this will stay true forever, the germans started the war.
But there is a deeper problem that may be overcome now: Maybe the educational system and the media in Europe (including Britain ;-) could open up a little. Europe is beautiful, and even England is worth a visit, at least passing through to Scotland.
Ben,
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  • 173.
  • At 09:14 PM on 25 Jun 2006,
  • Ralf, Germany, Cologne wrote:

Dear "Brits", first of all I have to say that I actually like the English attitude towards life very much. I have already been to Streatham (London) and stayed there at a very civilised host family's home. I liked it... Tut-tut! The English fan's behaviour was definitely unsavoury and ansocial while my fellow countrymen in Stuttgart were enjoying Germany vs Sweden within a public viewing area! Sorry, but those English zanies are the worst representatives of England. Why do they have a problem with coming to terms with the fact, that the German team is playing MUCH BETTER!!! than the English. It's a fact, that your fellow countrymen provoked the Germans... Their attitude is not to be fair! I do appreciate, that most of them were arrested by German police and not allowed to get back into the city of Stuttgart before Monday, 26th June. They immediately ought to leave Germany, because they only intend to destroy the good mood which has been arisen in Germany since 9th June. Shame on those English "kooks" - Their behaviour just represents criminal offences!

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  • 174.
  • At 09:43 PM on 25 Jun 2006,
  • Gerd wrote:

Seems I starrrrt sufferrrring from identity crrrrisis ... so PLEASE : if you rrrreally think you must tell everyone how much you like the Gerrrrmans, do it, but please except me. I apologize for any inconvenience and thank you for your understanding.

Gerd (a real Kraut from Munich)

... or, like the father of my ex girl friend from Italy used to call me:

Adolfo.

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  • 175.
  • At 08:15 AM on 26 Jun 2006,
  • Volker wrote:

Hello,

I live in Hamburg and i never ever experienced a more peaceful and relaxed party than on the fan-fest in hamburg. we are so proud to have the world in our city- and please, come and visit us next year as well;-))

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  • 176.
  • At 10:22 AM on 26 Jun 2006,
  • jessie molton wrote:

i h8 football so much !!!!!!! also your site sucks

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  • 177.
  • At 10:22 AM on 26 Jun 2006,
  • jessie molton wrote:

i h8 football so much !!!!!!! also your site sucks

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  • 178.
  • At 12:01 PM on 26 Jun 2006,
  • stefan wrote:

My dear British friends

As someone who used to live and work in London for 4 years in the early nineties I don´t want to spare you my comments on some of the issues discussed here.

First of all I am really glad and gratefull to see that finally so many of you apparently discover that the Germans are not at all what you used to think of us. I am saying this bearing in mind and remembering all the stupid stereotypes I had to face during my time in Britain.

I did and still do like the British people very much for lots of different reasons. But I also continue to hate being confronted with the WAR whenever I meet with one of you. You are famous for your sense of humor. But why don´t you realise that it is not funny at all to make silly jokes about the war whenever we have spent an hour or so together?

In various comments above you concede that your perception of Germans and Germany has been biased by your historical education and more over by your media. Now i wonder, did you ever ask yourself about the underlying reasons for that? Why has it become a significant part of your culture to define your own national pride and patriotism on keeping this part of our common history alive as if it all happened yesterday?

Since the war Germany has been seen as a nation without pride, patriotism, caught in permanent ANGST and the absence of self-confidence. In fact this never really reflected the truth. But now it seems to me that you are pretty similar to us if you need the Germans to find reasons for your own pride and patriotism. So, as a German who knows what he talks about in this very respect, I want to encourage you to define and think of yourself more in the present and not so much in past. Your are a great people and I love you even if the vast majority of you does not like me.

But please, it is time that you, who knows better now having been to my country, speak up and raise your voice to tell your media, teachers and anyone else who forms the public opinion that you are bored by the old stories and that it is time to make peace.

See you next time in Britain ;-)

Stefan

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  • 179.
  • At 01:02 PM on 26 Jun 2006,
  • Raintiger wrote:

Hello everyone !

I do not think you can be proud of something you have not achieved yourself.
So I say,.. I am "happy" to be German, as I am happy to be European , but I am absolutely proud to have friends from all around the globe.

Take care everybody and see you around ;)

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  • 180.
  • At 01:16 PM on 26 Jun 2006,
  • Oliver wrote:

I don't care if Brits like us or not. I have no need to explain the remaining world myself or my nation, BUT I want us to play football against them (England, not the UK) at a wc and it is almost impossible. Come on folks, against Brazil a nice David Backham is not enough. They kill you before breakfest.

We also do not play against the Netherlands, this whole wc makes no sense any more, just cancel everything! Hope to see you in South Africa in 2010! :)

Oliver

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  • 181.
  • At 01:17 PM on 26 Jun 2006,
  • Oliver wrote:

I don't care if Brits like us or not. I have no need to explain the remaining world myself or my nation, BUT I want us to play football against them (England, not the UK) at a wc and it is almost impossible. Come on folks, against Brazil a nice David Backham is not enough. They kill you before breakfest.

We also do not play against the Netherlands, this whole wc makes no sense any more, just cancel everything! Hope to see you in South Africa in 2010! :)

Oliver

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  • 182.
  • At 01:23 PM on 26 Jun 2006,
  • Raintiger wrote:

... allow me one more comment concerning the stupid comments of some guys of german and of english nationality in this otherwise very nice blog.

Universal rule:
"Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity."

Lets just ignore them.
Take care,...

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  • 183.
  • At 02:15 PM on 26 Jun 2006,
  • Raas wrote:

I do not care what other people from "foreign" countries say or think about a so called german mentality.

At the End it all comes to this:
Are we willing to share what ever there might be, without boundary?

A clear "YES".

Just my fifty cents.

At Saturday hundreds danced, sang, sweated to the rhythms of a samba group on the "market square" in Nuremberg. What a night!

Turkish people, folks from Argentina, Croatia, Sweden - dutch's embracing germans - a "grande" celebration of one lovely energy, fun, letting loose, get going, come together.

That, above all, I will hold dear, and remember.

Am I grateful? I AM.
Thanks folks, where ever you are coming from, where ever you are going to - you're always welcome!

With many regards.

Raas

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  • 184.
  • At 10:06 PM on 26 Jun 2006,
  • Christian wrote:

As a young man from Hamburg I really enjoyed reading this blog. A few times I got a goose skin because of these words.
We can't keep secret that we have lots of people here in Germany who don't want us to sway our flags or to sing our national anthem but this world cup shows that there are a lot of voices who defy those people. The generation of '68 is antiquated!! I am so lucky and I hope that this world cup will leave one's marks.
All over the world the people love our country, so why shouldn't we do? That can't be german humor ;)
Thank you for making me proud with your statements about Germany and Germans and excuse my English :)Thanks!!

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  • 185.
  • At 10:52 PM on 27 Jun 2006,
  • Tobias wrote:

I am from Hannover, Germany. Today many spanish fans sung on their way to the stadium "Ohne Holland fahr`n wir nach Berlin" (We´re going to Berlin without the Netherlands) - in German! Cool!!! ;-)

It´s just fun everywhere, many people here got the feeling of the Expo 2000 coming home again.

(By the way: the stadium in Hannover is near a square named Waterloo.

Does it mean something to the French? I don`t think so, Spain 1; France 3

Many greetings from Hannover!

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  • 186.
  • At 12:15 AM on 28 Jun 2006,
  • Robert wrote:

This world cup is such a fantastic event, i can´t believe that. It´s a great honour for us, the germans, to welcome the hole world in our great country.

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  • 187.
  • At 11:35 AM on 01 Jul 2006,
  • Jens wrote:

I am a german guy living in the Netherlands, thus beeing aware of loads of stereotypes involving the Germans, British and the Dutch. I'd like to say, that even if the world-cup will not shift these stereotypes over night (very unlikely), it obviously has done some good (for everyone). That's something to be happy about, isn't it. Don't take prejudices too personal and you'll be fine (I'm referring to some of the german writers here).
Greetings and thanks for all the positive comments on this site.

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  • 188.
  • At 12:00 AM on 02 Jul 2006,
  • Astrid wrote:

To all the British people who stay in Germany: Don't cry! Don't go home early! Stay for the party at the finals. There's a helluva lot of good, cold german beer for you to drown the frustration. :-)
And maybe you'll like to see our team kick the portugés out in the penalty shootout. Take a close look. For next time...

*sympathy*
Astrid

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  • 189.
  • At 03:41 AM on 02 Jul 2006,
  • Thomas wrote:

Hi, I am a German with relatives in England. My brother in law and my sister live in Somerset. I'm very sad that England has lost the match against Portugal. I am always an English supporter wearing the English shirt and also the German one. But don't be too sad. See you again at the EURO 2008. You can be proud for your team. Penalty kicks are always a kind of lottery.

Thomas

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  • 190.
  • At 09:06 AM on 02 Jul 2006,
  • Silly Rooney wrote:

GO HOME ENGLAND!!!
its the best day for the world cup!
the whole world is happy that england is out!!!!!!!!!!!!hahahahaha

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  • 191.
  • At 09:31 AM on 02 Jul 2006,
  • Victoria wrote:

As a Brit (who took a long time to come round to the idea of living in Frankfurt), I think the Germans have provided the greatest World Cup! They have planned everything so well, and been so welcoming and friendly and supportive. We have enjoyed every minute. Seeing all the international fans in our city is wonderful, there is such a party atmosphere.This is a great and beautiful country- come see for yourselves!
Such a shame about England, but.................come on the Germans!!!

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  • 192.
  • At 05:45 PM on 02 Jul 2006,
  • Patrick wrote:

The "English Invasion" in Frankfurt was really impressive. I know, we are not supposed to like each other but here we appreciate real football fans who spend everything they have to see their team playing more than little german Nike indoctrinated Kids running around in a Ronaldinho shirt. It was really refreshing to see how much passion and effort England supporters put in to it! Football is alive and it belongs to us and not to FIFA and Mastercard !!!

Having talked to many of the England supporters in Frankfurt, we agreed that tearing down some of the stereotypes is overdue. But why not keep a (somewhat ironic) rivaly (with the awareness of it being made up by the contributions of the tabloids here and over in Britain?
What would a World Cup be worth without them? And now "surrender Panzer Krauts!" eh... I mean: "Elfmeter Trottel fahren heim" (Penalty-idiots home!).

It was really great to have you here, ENGLAND SUPPORTERS... And all this in my home town: I had the time of my life! Thank you so much and come back!

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  • 193.
  • At 10:25 PM on 05 Jul 2006,
  • Moritz wrote:

Hello, I'm Moritz from Frankfurt.

Sorry if my English is not so good.

I'm very happy to see what the english people think about the germans.

I think the world cup was the pefect thing for the germans so show the world how we are.

A few weeks befor the worldcup started in frankfurt was a festival called "Skyarena" It was very well.

Look at the picture:

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/cat/2449/display/5839207

And this video:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5pKcmUBqvFI&search=skyarena

Moritz

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  • 194.
  • At 04:24 PM on 08 Jul 2006,
  • Anonymous wrote:

Hi , I'm Markus from Germany .
I'm really happy to see that the worldcup has changed the Image of my country.
I wished this party would never end ,
It's really fun to celebrate with people from different nations.
I already miss the dutch people , It was such a big fun to watch them invading Stuttgart city.

I hope the spirit of the Worldcup will stay forever in Germany .


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  • 195.
  • At 06:36 PM on 08 Jul 2006,
  • Rob wrote:

Germany is a colonized country striped from its culture.

No country has been so much defamated than Germany, got itself ripped in half and brainwashed through Hollywood and general media.


It is a pity, but the germans of today are nothing but a shadow of what was once a proud, honest and unique nation.

PS- never ever trust the britts!!!! They are known for having absolutely no respect for honesty and thruth.

Better luck next time.

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  • 196.
  • At 08:00 PM on 08 Jul 2006,
  • Sarah Lambrecht wrote:

Hey all!

I´m Sarah from Germany.
Thank all guests for the nice time!
I have been in Britain four times and i really love the Britains. You guys know how to party! ;)

to Rob: Think you got some other problems with "shadows"....

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  • 197.
  • At 11:40 AM on 09 Jul 2006,
  • Garry 1848 wrote:

Yes, it was a geat party we all had together.

I took some pictures in Gelsenkirchen (England-Portugal) - have a look and enjoy the peaceful und friendly atmosphere if you want:

http://www.prolls.de/specials/wm_2006/ENG_POR_GE/html/default_eng_por_ge.html

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  • 198.
  • At 01:46 PM on 09 Jul 2006,
  • Marvin Sczepek wrote:

Hey,
my name is Marvin. I am from Germany (Halle). To me it is a real pleasure to read this article and the comments on it. It really makes me proud reading about experiences made in Germany during the World Cup.


I want to thank the whole world for a months of excitement and love.
I love everybody that cheered for their team.

I love Soccer!
I love Germany!
I love the whole world and everybody that does, too!

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  • 199.
  • At 10:12 PM on 09 Jul 2006,
  • Anke wrote:

Thanks, guys, for all the great comments. It's a balm to the soul for all German to read this. We had had great fear to face the World. But you and the other fans of everywhere here trustet us. THANKS! Whats the greatest party without amicable guests? You are allways invited!
Anke

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  • At 10:06 AM on 10 Jul 2006,
  • Robert Tansley wrote:

All I can say is AMAZING! I am English but have lived in Berlin for the last 8 years. The World Cup was simply amazing, the football superb, the organisation fantastic, the parties unbelievable and the people and atmosphere breathtaking. The amount of harmony I have seen and felt was incredible, all nations together, all languages, cultures accepted and problems with politics, war, etc etc pushed to one side - I wish we could transfer the feelings from the world cup in Germany through the world, daily, to make this world a better place...... Life could be so easy. The Germans were wonderful, have not heard one negative report and I pleased and proud to say I was there and I was a part of this wonderful event! Speechless......

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  • 201.
  • At 01:37 PM on 10 Jul 2006,
  • Michael wrote:

Hi everyone!

It's very satisfying to see, that not only the german people think, that this worldcup was one giant and very friendly (fan)fest for all nations und people, who have visited germany over the past 4 weeks.

I met a lot of foreign fans (trinidad and tobago, english, swedish and so on), they all seemed to be very surprised, how friendly and warm the atmosphere was. Besides that, some english guys reported of the german stereotypes, delivered by the british media. I hope, this will change from now on. I know, that there some very annoying german "fans", especially visiting football matches of germay outside of our country. This "fans" are not the usual german fans.

After all, it was a lot of fun, helping foreign people to find their way to downtown, to the stadium or a beer ;-) I'm looking forward to be a guest myself in one of the following tournaments and to celebrate with fans from all other the world in the same way.

Thanks everyone for having such a friendly and lovely party with all of you!

Best regards from the south of germany,
Michael

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  • 202.
  • At 01:38 PM on 10 Jul 2006,
  • Michael wrote:

Hi everyone!

It's very satisfying to see, that not only the german people think, that this worldcup was one giant and very friendly (fan)fest for all nations und people, who have visited germany over the past 4 weeks.

I met a lot of foreign fans (trinidad and tobago, english, swedish and so on), they all seemed to be very surprised, how friendly and warm the atmosphere was. Besides that, some english guys reported of the german stereotypes, delivered by the british media. I hope, this will change from now on. I know, that there some very annoying german "fans", especially visiting football matches of germay outside of our country. This "fans" are not the usual german fans.

After all, it was a lot of fun, helping foreign people to find their way to downtown, to the stadium or a beer ;-) I'm looking forward to be a guest myself in one of the following tournaments and to celebrate with fans from all other the world in the same way.

Thanks everyone for having such a friendly and lovely party with all of you!

Best regards from the south of germany,
Michael

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  • 203.
  • At 02:01 PM on 10 Jul 2006,
  • Laura wrote:

Thank you thank you thank you! :)
I'm a young German and I NEVER expected our image became so much better through the WC!
Well, before the WC, I didn't like football... Typical stereotypes, à la "Boring and stupid" but the WC (and especially our team.) made me being a football-freak XD
It was a very positive experience to be proud of my country and I think, we shouldn't let us be scared from what happened 60 years ago. Of course it's very important to remember it, but we shouldn't act like WE, the new generation, were responsible for that :)

Anyway, just thanks for that many positive comments - it's a great feeling ^__^
In the holidays I'll spend a few days in England (and then a week in Ireland) and I look forward for a new, hopefully good experience :3

Bye
Laura
P.S.: The ball crossed the line ;)

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  • 204.
  • At 09:49 PM on 10 Jul 2006,
  • thomas ihle wrote:

first of all sorry for my english.i live in lemgo (nordrhein westfahlen)germany
lemgo has got a population of about 40000 . turkish ,russian ,asian ,blacks,italien ,greece,and about 200 english poeple have been living here for a long time. there have never been any problems,between this different ethnic groups. it is pretty nice mix ,and i sometimes wonder myself ,that the person i am talking to , is not an original german.so what. the original germans are disappearing ,very good. to all british poeple have been thinking bad about germany , i would like to say come and visit us.you will be surprised in a positiv way.

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  • 205.
  • At 11:21 PM on 10 Jul 2006,
  • Kim wrote:

A typical german "thing" is to suppress other opinions. For example opinions from people who criticise the "official" worldcup-patriotism-hysteria in Germany. Just think about it.

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  • 206.
  • At 11:24 PM on 10 Jul 2006,
  • Michael wrote:

This World Cup was just awesome. With it one of the main tasks of sport - bringing people all over the world together - has reached a new dimension.

I will never forget the fan fests, the great atmosphere and the pictures of it - it was outstanding. How did Blatter say "The best World Cup ever".

The Germans are not the world champions in soccer, but they are in organisation and hospitality.

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  • 207.
  • At 12:23 AM on 11 Jul 2006,
  • Matthäus wrote:

Being really amazed at so many positive views on Germany I feel very grateful, too.

I could only watch the WC(WM) on TV and what I saw there was breathtaking (good play, a great atmosphere and quite unexpectedly behaving country-fellowmen).

You see, I´m in my fifties and have strong connections with Britain.
I´ve been there about 15 times (mainly Scotland) and had only one really bad experience in Wales six years ago when my car got scratched, but my best friends are from Glasgow and from Cambridge. And I always took it for granted that Brits make and are used to making those "funny, ridiculing" jokes on Germans. When somebody did that I often thought of a Scot who wouldn´t have liked any Scots´jokes either.

When travelling and asked where I came from I found it more convenient to say: "from Bavaria" and I avoided the word Germany. Then many people would use friendly stereotypes like: beer festival, Munich, dirndl etc. and I was quiet although I live 200 miles north of that stuff at the other end of Bavaria in Franconia which is quite different (e.g. wine instead of beer).

For me all these misunderstandings and stereotypes were even more disturbing and unpleasant as I play Celtic music in a band (tin whistle and Northumbrian pipes). So far playing this sort of music has never been a problem in Ireland (fleadhs and ceilis are great!) but in Britain we were laughed at twice and so gave up playing there.

So my (personal) hope is that the games in Germany have changed so many people living in Britain that - strange as it may be - even a German band can perform Celtic music there. We´d love to and I´d write a new jig or reel for that.

Kind regards from Bavar..., I mean Germany.

Matthäus

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  • 208.
  • At 11:38 AM on 11 Jul 2006,
  • Danny wrote:

Well, thanks lads. Love your comments about my country. Did you know that there is not one joke I know about Brits here, although we have jokes on every other european neighbour, of course!? Strange? No, that's because we love England and it hurts to hear that England hates Germany. Hope that will change.
Just keep on mentioning the war, I like the jokes ,-), they're mostly ace! Keep 'em sarcastic on a personal level, not just flat and impertinent like the gossip.
Cheers
Dannyboy

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  • 209.
  • At 01:35 PM on 11 Jul 2006,
  • Chris wrote:

The World Cup 2006 has been awesome in every respect. The atmosphere was brilliant. It couldn't have been any better. All the people I met at fan fests in various cities said that they were enjoying themselves and so glad that they could sample the World Cup atmosphere. Fans from all over the world also said that Germans were so peaceful, welcoming and friendly and loved partying - something they'd never expected to this extent. As a German I'd like to say thank you to all fans from abroad who made this World Cup and unforgettable and enjoyable experience. Thanks to the fans all over the world who came to Germany and made this event and unforgettable experience. You were great guests. I had the time of my life. I'm glad to hear that most of you enjoyed this World Cup as much as I did and I hope that you'll visit our country sometime soon. Even though the German team didn't win the World Cup, Germany won the hearts of many football fans for hosting such an awesome and brilliant World Cup party. I think this is what most fans will remember when they think back to the World Cup 2006. And that is Germany's greatest achievement.

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  • 210.
  • At 04:14 PM on 11 Jul 2006,
  • QuantreX wrote:

Danke an Allen die Mitgefeiert und Gefiebert Haben wir Erkennen uns kaum Selber Aber Die WM06 hat den Anstoss Dazu gegeben Das wir Eine Familie sind und das Gefühl ist Einfach Wunderbar Danke an Allen den Engländern den Franzosen den Nord und Südamerikanern etc. ihr habt ja Mitgeholfen THX an alle auf der Welt es War Wunderschön!
So Friedlich Feiern das gab es noch nie!!

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  • 211.
  • At 09:55 AM on 12 Jul 2006,
  • Jojo wrote:

Hi, I AM a german girl , an i think the WC was really great! even if Germany didn't won against italia! I think Germany hast the best team of the world!(I hate italy!)

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  • 212.
  • At 02:24 AM on 14 Jul 2006,
  • Frank wrote:

Oh, most of these Germans here (I'm German, too) seem to be mainly interested in of what other people think about them or their country. As if the World Cup first serves the purpose of showcasing the host nation ... Personally, I couldn't care less.

Please remember: it was about FOOTBALL, it was a FIFA tournament, even if it was organized by a lot of Germans. Of course it is the responsibility of the hosts to provide the organization - and that one has to be as excellent as possible.

I had the time of my life. Thanks to FIFA and to all the football/soccer enthusiasts that have shown up here. The parties on the streets were fanstastic, the fans from all over the world were great, their outfits incredibly creative. It was them that provided the core part of the festivities, the hosts just helped them to let it all out.

I've been to other great tournaments before, WCs and ECs. Have to say this one was the best, particularly because of the huge and crowded fan fest areas. That was what created the great atmosphere in the first place. People of every host nation are usually friendly when it comes to addressing their guests - so what's the big deal about hospitality in Germany? I even experienced that in England during Euro96 - apart from the tabloids and some hools, of course.

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  • 213.
  • At 03:29 AM on 16 Jul 2006,
  • David Dube wrote:

Germans may have hosted a great tournament but deep down, they are still 100% racist.

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