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They've become one of our favourite places to shop. With over 17 million items for sale on their website, forget about the high street, you can get whatever you want on eBay.
However, not everything we've found on eBay over the years has been what you'd expect from the biggest name in online trading. This time we're not talking about fake handbags or dodgy designer goods. Now we've found dangerous weapons, designed to harm, openly for sale.
Counterfeit designer goods for sale
Two years ago, Watchdog investigated counterfeit designer goods for sale on eBay. The company later told us it had sharpened up its act and when two months ago we bought dangerous goods from one of its rivals, eBay told us that it prevents any prohibited items from appearing on its site. On the evidence we've gathered, it looks like it was wrong.
Further searches uncovered more dangerous knives when Watchdog browsed eBay's 13,000 categories. Under antiques, we found rugs, maps and clocks. In 'collectibles' we saw, teapots and autographs. But we also came across a less savoury item; a knife disguised as a pen. Further searches on the site uncovered more dangerous looking knives, including a dagger made of plastic that is as strong as steel and a flick knife, advertised under the category 'outdoor sports'.
All these knives were for sale on eBay's UK site, even though the sellers were in America. Many of the knives we found clearly looked illegal. So how easy would it be for us to get our hands on them?
One knife was confiscated
Our researchers ordered six through eBay, including flick knives, the plastic dagger and the knife hidden inside a pen. They cost between just £3 and £9. One - a flick knife - was intercepted by Customs. The note they sent detailing why the knife had been confiscated stated that they thought it was an offensive weapon. If we disagreed, we could argue the case in court.
The remaining five knives did get through and soon arrived in the post. What caught our eye was how the sellers had described the goods on the Customs declaration on the packaging. One was labelled as a 'gift', the other a 'tool' and one even a 'prop'. It seemed they were quite happy to tell the truth about what they were selling on eBay, but they didn't want to take any risks at all when it came to Customs.
When we received the knives we arranged a meeting with the Metropolitan Police to confirm their legal status. So that we didn't get charged with carrying an offensive weapon the police recommended that we put the knives in a securely locked case and carried with us a letter explaining that we were taking them to the local police station.
The police were horrified
When we arrived, our knives were examined by Sergeant Ian Lewis, who was horrified. He didn't like the flick knives or the special pen known as a 'disguised knife', but it was the plastic dagger- classed as a 'stealth knife' - that really shocked him as it would pass unnoticed by metal detectors. Sergeant Lewis made it clear that we'd be committing an offence if we left with these knives, so we were happy to surrender them to be destroyed. In his expert opinion they we all offensive weapons, illegal to sell or import into the UK.
Police response to knife crime
Leading the national police response to knife crime is deputy assistant commissioner Alf Hitchcock, of the Association of Chief Police Officers. He told us in this case, eBay is undermining police efforts. "I find it quite shocking that a retailer and a responsible retailer at that would be selling offensive weapons. Any company selling knives such as these should clean up their act, get a grip and need to stamp it out immediately. It's immoral to allow such weapons to get onto the streets of Britain and they do have a responsibility."
Whatever the law says, we had no trouble getting these knives on eBay's UK site. And it isn't as if we did it under the counter; the whole process seemed completely above board. So, why didn't eBay try to stop us getting them? It seems the security it boasted about last year has let the company down. Its software is supposed to filter out dangerous or prohibited items by recognising key words in its online listings. But somehow it missed words such as 'flick knife', 'plastic dagger', and 'pen with knife'.
eBay should stop this happening
Dr Tom Ilube, a specialist in internet security, thinks it's within eBay's power to prevent this sort of thing happening. "If they really wanted to do something about it then they could. I think they have to get more sophisticated with the way they search for key words. If you only have a limited set of key words, and you look for exact matches it's not going to be very effective if people are being smart about the words they use."
Tom was clear that the fact the sellers were based in the US and not the UK is not an excuse. "It's not a complete get out clause. It makes it a bit more difficult but eBay already deals with the situation of filtering things out in certain countries, and it could do that in this case as well. When you're as big as eBay, you have the resources that eBay has and you have the power in the market place that it has, so it is your problem whether you like it or not. You set up the market, you run the market, it is your problem."
In fact, eBay agrees. It told us this shouldn't have been able to happen and admitted some of the knives we bought are illegal in America too. We know from the eBay website that we are not the first people in the UK to have bought from these sellers. But we hope we're the last to have bought an offensive weapon. And eBay needs to make sure that we are.
Following Watchdog's report, Mark Lewis, Country Manager for eBay (UK) came on to the programme to announce that eBay intends to ban trade in all knives, with the exception of cutlery knives, on both its UK and Ireland websites.
In a statement eBay said the following:
"Trust is the engine of our business and it is our duty to provide a safe and secure marketplace for our members. The security measures we already have in place are designed to make sure that only legal knives have been offered for sale by UK and Irish sellers on our UK and Ireland sites and we are satisfied with how these measures have been working in both the UK and Ireland.
"We have a good track record of leading the online industry in going above and beyond what the law requires in a number of areas such as fighting counterfeits or banning the sale of ivory worldwide. Similarly, our policies on weapons and knives go above and beyond the legal requirements set out by the Home Office. However, the laws surrounding the sales of knives are extremely complex and so we have decided that the best way to protect our members and achieve the safety guarantees they have come to expect from us is to remove and ban all knives, with the exception of cutlery knives, from our UK and Ireland sites.
"eBay's marketplace structure means that it will take time to work with our sellers to remove the knives currently for sale and prevent new listings from being posted. However, we are committed to achieving this as quickly as possible."
Illegal knives
The exact legal definitions detailing which types of knives are classed as offensive weapons are complex and hence open to interpretation. However, the police experts that we consulted considered that all five of the knives we obtained would qualify as offensive weapons, falling under the definition of stealth knives, disguised knives, flick knives or gravity knives. Offensive weapons are illegal to sell or import in the UK.
In addition, the vast majority of knives are illegal to carry on the street, except under exceptional circumstances, regardless of whether they fall under the strict definition of an offensive weapon. However, that does not mean that it is illegal for someone over the age of 18 to buy, sell or possess such a knife, as many knives have a perfectly legitimate purpose, for example a dive knife for diving or a knife used in some outdoor activities.
eBay told Watchdog that all knives would be removed from sale on the UK and Ireland sites in a matter of weeks.