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Mariam, web team | 14:24 UK time, Thursday, 1 October 2009

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Forty years ago this year, the summer of love was in full swing and the music festival was born: Woodstock, a free event, attracted 500,000 people and the biggest rockers of the day. Fast-forward 40 years and the summers of free love are a thing of the past; today's music festivals are commercial beasts, with the biggest charging more than £200 for a weekend.

Today there are more than 350 music festivals across the UK, with acts performing everything from folk music to hardcore trance and everything in-between. They attract thousands of partygoers and the UK's biggest industry names, but the music festival has become big business.

Getting a ticket for the biggest gigs of the summer is no easy task, for some of the major festivals; you have to sign up a year in advance to buy a ticket. But this year with so many brand new festivals launching, some people who bought tickets didn't get quite what they paid for.

It's fair to say that not all festivals go to plan. Even the biggest festivals this year have had problems; at the Chelmsford leg of the V Festival this year, headline act Oasis didn't turn up after singer Liam Gallagher caught laryngitis.

Still, at events like that you did get plenty for your money. But what about the smaller ones jumping on the festival bandwagon?

Just last week, at this year's fledgling Southern Sounds Festival, it wasn't just some of the acts that didn't turn up; neither did most of the crowd.

Watchdog was contacted by a number of festival goers who were left sorely disappointed.

The Southern Sounds festival in September should have had 100 artists, in five arenas over two days. Amy Dancer and her friends spent £41 each on tickets to celebrate her birthday.

"There were meant to be 5,000 people there as advertised, there were more like 500. We tried to dance but in each of the tents there were like 10 people and after a while you just give up."

You might think no crowds are a good thing. But some of the bands they'd booked to see weren't there either. Amy and her friends were left even more disappointed when some of their favourite acts failed to perform.

"We didn't find out Chicane weren't playing, we just stayed at main stage and waited and there was no appearance at all."

By the end of the festival, 20 acts didn't turn up. Including most of the headline acts.

The organiser of Southern Sounds, was 22-year-old club promoter Jonathan Adam Lane. He'd fancied his luck on the festival circuit. But with low ticket sales, he couldn't afford to pay the bands. That's why some of them didn't show.

Some bands, such as dance act the Freestylers did turn up. Even though they hadn't received their payment in advance. At the festival grounds, they were given cheques to cover their fee, unfortunately these cheques bounced, meaning they ended up performing for free.

Matt Cantor of the Freestylers said:

"I think his [Jonathan Adam Lane's] intentions were good but he was totally naïve about what he was meant to do. Thought he could wing it and it totally backfired on him."

Watchdog contacted The Office of Fair Trading who said in cases like this you should be due at least a partial refund:

"If the change is fairly insignificant then your rights may be limited. But if it's a significant change for instance if the headline act has changed then you may be entitled to some of your money back or perhaps in some circumstances a full refund."

So far, Watchdog hasn't spoken to anyone who's had even some of their money returned.

At least the Southern Sounds Festival did happen. Some people who'd paid for festival tickets this summer got absolutely nothing for their money. And they're still waiting for a refund.

Nineteen of this year's festivals didn't take place at all. Including Memories of Woodstock, in Shrewsbury organised by New Dawn Events. They promised great music at a great price with no hidden extras. These old hippies were planning to relive the heady days of 1969 over two days in August.

When he saw the line-up - music fan Stephen Smith was desperate to go:

"Well, I'm a child of the 60s and 70s, and I've always liked Jethro Tull, they're one of my favourite bands. I regard them as the thinking mans rock band and when we saw they were advertised on the internet we thought let's do this."

The man behind New Dawn Events is Brian Davies, He planned to sell 15,000 tickets. But without enough ticket sales, some bands pulled out. And the event collapsed.

Stephen Smith only found out the event was cancelled when he received a letter through the post:

And then we get this simple compliment slip through the post with no explanation saying the event was cancelled and we'll get refunds, but up until now they had not been received.

When Brian Davies cancelled the event, he pointed the finger at what he called 'greedy bands' and their high fees. But Ian Anderson - Jethro Tull's lead singer - says that's rubbish.

He's written an open letter to Brian Davies. And doesn't mince his words.

"An open letter to Brian Davies, despite of your intention to cancel appearance, we immediately offered to appear for 50% of the contracted fee. I utterly deplore your tactics for forcing us to accept the cancellation at this late date, and you are short changing the ticket buyers. When will you finally learn the painfully obvious lesson and give up this preposterous illusion of being a major concert promoter, you have acted irresponsibly to musicians and actors alike."

It's not easy organising big events at a time when people are short of cash. But Memories of Woodstock isn't the first festival Brian Davies hasn't quite got off the ground. He's tried before, over the last 18 months Davies has had to cancel three other festivals at the last minute. One in Plymouth and two in his native Scotland

When an event doesn't happen at all, the advice is clear.

Michele Shambrook at the OFT says:

"If you bought tickets to the festival and the festival is cancelled then the provider is in breach of contract and so you can claim the money back and potentially other costs if they're reasonably foreseeable."

Brian Davies of New Dawn Events says he will issue refunds when his insurance pays out. But our festival goers have heard that one before.

Will Stephen get his cash back? On the website of New Dawn Events Brian Davies says, "It's a sad case of affairs when people think of money before love and peace." It seems those refunds are starting to sound as hazy as the memories of Woodstock first time around.

Southern Sounds Festival told us

"Firstly, many acts did play as advertised. We did have 80% of the line-up paid for 100% in advance and confirmed. The remaining 20% of the line-up was either confirmed and had received 50% deposits or hadn't received deposits.

"Myself and family lost £100,000 just to get the gates open and the public into the event, we all believed it better to open the gates and still offer them an event as opposed to just cancelling, especially other events like cancelled without refunds. As a result my company has/is in the process of being liquidated, and refunds are not likely unless the acts that didn't play release their huge deposits for doing nothing, to the punters that paid to see them."

Brian Davies of New Dawn Events told us

"PayPal has had money deposited back into it, this way PayPal customers can get their refunds. Streamline customers that used their credit cards are being done as we speak. I myself am trying to get the people that sent cheques and cash paid. All this means that people that contacted you will be paid very soon.
"Before the show goes out on 1 October we hope to have 80% of customers refunded."
"The reason for the cancellation was due to very poor ticket sales, how can an event take place when agents want all fees three months or more before the event takes place. All deposits on bands were paid.

"We were involved with this failed event in Scotland. Myself and the agent involved agreed that this could not go ahead due to poor sales. Exeter was a non-starter after many trips to try and arrange the event, its very hard to get the public to come to a new venue.

Our May event in Shrewsbury went ahead and we catered for all disabled people that usually couldn't go to see live acts, We have emails and letters from customers that would bring normal people to tears."

Have you had any problems with festivals being cancelled? Does it make you wary of booking tickets to gigs? Let us know what you think.

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  • 1. At 9:47pm on 01 Oct 2009, petelea wrote:

    The Brian Davies / New Dawn event in May at Shrewsdbury did not go ahead as described.
    The concert headlined by Fairport convention and featuting Mostly Autumn was cancelled without notification. I had tickets both for this and the Woodstock event to the value of £225.90.
    I actively support as many such events anf bands as possible, and found Mr. Davies' comments about people bieng more interested in money than love and peace insulting and stupid. I've been to every Jethro Tull tour since 1972 and have never noticed many flower power people about!!
    Despite detailed written communications, e-mail and personal contact on the phone, I have yet to recieve a refund of these monies. Forget love and peace, I just want a refund of the monies paid for the services offered which were not provided.
    As New Dawn Events trade from an address registered in Scotland it is apparently not possible to pursue Mr. Davies or New Dawn Events through the small claims court for England and Wales; I feel this may have some bearing on my early concerns surrounding both Mr. Davies and the organisation's location given the nature of its business, and Mr. Davies' obvious origins in the Merseyside region.
    I am about to take a trip to Scotland and look forward to dropping in at the trading address to see what progress if any, is being made with refunds, and if a cash settlement can be made at the time.
    I'll keep you posted.......
    PS
    Thanks again Ian Anderson for getting to the point, see you at Buxton!!!!

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  • 2. At 11:45pm on 01 Oct 2009, brilliantdogtrainer wrote:

    I saw the programme tonight and was hoping that our problem may have reared its head and that other people may have had a similar experience.

    My daughter bought two tickets for the Leeds v Festival in March of this year over the internet. She booked through [company removed, herein named website A] at a cost of 145.00, using my debit card. She received an e.mail confirming that the tickets had been bought and the money went out of the account almost immediately.

    The tickets arrived in the middle of August from a company called [website B]. The tickets stated early entry with a face value of ten pounds each. This made no sense at all as the tickets also stated that these tickets were only valid with a Festival ticket.So began a real merry go round of phone calls/e.mails.

    On taking the matter up with [website A]they immediately passed the buck saying, whilst they appreciated our concern the problem was not theirs but with [website B]. On telephoning [website B] the person at the other end of the phone was no help at all stating that this is what was ordered via [website A] and that was that. They suggested that if an e.mail was then sent to The Disputes Manager they would investigate. This farce went on right until the 28th August 09 the day of the Festival. The Disputes Manager has been e.mailed and to date I have heard absolutely nothing. My take on this is that the purchase was made through [website A], they took the money out of my bank account and as far as I am concerned that is who I made the contract with. They having passed this onto a third party ie [website B] is not my problem. Arguably [website A] made an error when they instructed [website B]. The thing that is extremely concerning is how on earth can anyone justify sending two worthless tickets at a total value of 20.00 and take 145.00 and get away with it. By the time the tickets arrived the Festival was sold out and [both website A and B] could do nothing anyway.

    I am at the moment pursuing this with not only Trading Standards but with my Bank. This was a birthday present and it came to nothing, might just as well have flushed my hard earned money down the toilet !!!!

    I will see what happens and post.

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  • 3. At 4:38pm on 02 Oct 2009, emmatrainor wrote:

    I booked and paid for tickets for [festival details removed]. The festival was cancelled two days before it was due to start. I paid £107 and have yet to receive a refund, the company won't answer the phone, reply to emails . I hand delived a letter to there offices in september, they have not replied to it. I think this company is disgraceful.

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  • 4. At 6:28pm on 20 Oct 2009, Bunkreeloon wrote:

    I ordered 4 tickets for the Crathes Castle events and they arrived a day before I heard that the concerts were cancelled!! I paid thru Paypal but contrary to Brian Davies assurances, we have NOT got our money back. Neither has our friends who also paid by Paypal.They have also been told that their credit card company will not help them as it was a Paypal payment.

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  • 5. At 10:15pm on 25 Oct 2009, muadib wrote:

    Still no refund for the Woodstock gig and its nearly November.

    80% paid? Before saying that shouldnt the BBC have demanded proof?

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  • 6. At 3:00pm on 27 Oct 2009, jproscoe wrote:

    I'm also still waiting for a refund for 2 Memories of Woodstock tickets - Brian Davies will not reply to any emails or answer calls, and by the looks of other online forums, many other customers are in the same position.

    Does BBC Watchdog do anything beyond the broadcasted programme to put pressure on people such as Brian Davies to deliver their promises?

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  • 7. At 2:50pm on 01 Nov 2009, uriah66 wrote:

    We are still waiting for our refund on tickets and hotel accommodation for £255.00. We have sent letter of claim to Mr Davies in September with no reply. Now going through Scottish County Court to try and recover money. Luckly we are seeing Uriah Heep this week in London and Thank god Brian Davies was not involved in this concert!

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  • 8. At 6:22pm on 03 Dec 2009, Theprogsdodahs wrote:

    The end of yet another month and more (so far) empty promises of a refund for the £217.90 of 2 weekend tickets. Does he hope we will just eventually give up and go away? Will watchdog help us out by exerting more pressure on this man to fulfill his legal obligations??
    Time will tell; meantime Keep rockin' all you folks out there who love and appreciate quality music and lets make sure we DO support those that legitamatly want to stage and promote Excellent music!!

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