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Diederick Santer Diederick Santer | 09:02 UK time, Monday, 22 February 2010

Well, I'll settle for that! A near faultless performance from cast and crew alike, and a brilliant actress delivering the killer cliffhanger to 16.6m stunned viewers. It was everything I could possibly have hoped for - a truly memorable event to mark 25 great years of EastEnders. I'm very proud of everyone involved.

Bradley Branning and Stacey Slater attempt to escape police in a taxi in the Who Killed Archie episode of EastEnders

Forty eight hours after EastEnders Live, I'm trying to put things in perspective. I said in my earlier blog that all the best EastEnders moments of the last 25 years involved some kind of creative risk. Going live was a massive risk, but seeing it pay off so successfully, getting us our highest ratings in seven years, has made all the stresses worthwhile.

The biggest burden for me has been keeping the secret. I've been reading the comments on my blog and I can reassure Bridget, sweet alternative, Jon and others, that the cast and crew really didn't know until the night.

The moment I told Lacey Turner (Stacey) that she was the killer, with less than an hour to go before the performance, was very exciting. She was shocked, and momentarily disorientated, but went with it immediately. We'd talked before about how it could be her, and she knew what she needed to do. I also told Jake Wood (Max), not that he was the killer, but that he would be supporting Lacey in the final scene in which she would be revealed as the killer. Watch it here:

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I never told Charlie (Bradley) - he, along with the rest of the cast, learnt it as the episode progressed. We've always managed this story on a need-to-know basis.

So how did we film all the episodes after the 'reveal' without them knowing? Peter - you've pretty much worked it out. Well done! Here's my more detailed explanation, although I have a feeling that Peter probably puts it better:

By the end of Friday only two characters are in on the secret - Stacey and her confidante Max - and it seems that Bradley is assumed to be the true killer of Archie. Monday's episode (22 February) picks up with Stacey and Max both distraught at the loss of Bradley, and to some extent blaming themselves for what's happened.

But the audience now know something more than the actors did when playing those scenes - that Stacey is the killer and Max knows it. Here's where it gets tricky! With the greatest respect to those two brilliant actors, their sadness and guilt plays both ways. Upset at their loss and at encouraging Bradley to run, or upset at their loss and the fact that Stacey's actions may have led to it - these two sets of feelings and emotions more or less look the same.

It's this kind of split intention (where we've given an actor an intention to play which could mean one thing or another) which we have used heavily during this period with a number of characters. With Stacey and Max, it's all helped by the fact that Stacey mysteriously disappears quite soon too.


We won't be filming new scenes on Monday (although we are doing some sound editing), but we will be dropping some quickly shot material in before too long. So I can assure viewers that the story doesn't become conveniently forgotten about, but rather stays active.

None of the writers, directors or actors working on the episodes that have been filmed up to now (about two months' worth) have known the truth. It's made it very tricky, as we've asked them to follow and work on our storylines without every being truly able to explain to them what's going on. But they've gone along with it, trusting our assurances that it would all make sense in the end. Another big risk! But I think this one will pay off too.

Zara, gorde21, emma, Angie Linford, Mark, Ash, mac, julie and others - thank you! I'm delighted you enjoyed the episode.

To Elizabeth - I do hope you don't abandon us. There's plenty of warmth and hope in the months ahead in EastEnders, and not too many tragedies. Although something rather unpleasant does happen to Sugar the dog, now I think about it... Oh, what is it with this programme and death?

Finally, to Ex-Tender, I reckon the music in the Bradley montage might have been One Day Like This by Elbow (but I didn't produce the Aftermath show, so I'm not 100% certain!).

Thanks for reading, and thanks so much to those of you who took the time and trouble to comment.

Diederick Santer is executive producer of EastEnders


  • Comment number 1.

    Congrats on a awesomwe live ep omg didnt that coming Stacey!! really enjoyed it had me on the edge of my seat. Also i would like to know about christian and Syed what is going to happen to them? becasue i love them and they have to end up together and Marc and John are amazing. Hannah xxx

  • Comment number 2.

    Congratulations on a great episode and the brilliant ratings.

    On the off chance that you're still reading the comments and are able to reply...

    Did Stacey tell Bradley she was the killer when they were in the bedroom in the live ep? The actions of Bradley afterwards would seem to indicate she did but then Charlie didn't know, so a lot of us are confused if Bradley knew or not


  • Comment number 3.


    Brilliant episode on Friday night - congratulations to you all! I have a question - you mentioned the 3 clues that would give it away if you had noticed them - what were they? I am intrigued!

    Many thanks!

  • Comment number 4.

    A massive congratulations to everyone at Eastenders! You all did amazing! Apart from a few little wobbles (which I feel added to the whole experience rather than faulted it) = BRILLIANT!!
    How Diederick and the rest of the 'inner' team kept that secret for almost a year is beyond me!! Shame Bradley died but best of luck to Charlie in future projects!! and hope Lacey gets better soon :)
    Again well done to all involved...makes me proud to be a fan of Britain's best soap! You deserve all the praise in the world!! :D Lorna xxx

  • Comment number 5.

    Eastenders has been a tad depressing over the last couple of years. But this storyline and live episode have ben extremely entertaining. Apart from Jack getting flustered, and Max attempting to rip his tonsils out, I thought it was pretty faultless... only the mili-second of extra pause time between scenes was noticeable. An amazing achievement.

    However, that said, I'l like to see a bit more humour (as long as it's not Mo) injected into Eastenders in the coming months. I can think of a few good comic ideas involving certain characters (Billy and Jean for instance), so I'm positive the script-writers can do the same! ;-)

    Finally, I love the fact that Stacey wasn't even included on certain adverts/posters ahead of this episode, a very nice touch, and I'm sure it would have help to throw a lot of people off Stacey as a suspect.

  • Comment number 6.

    Can we please please see the moment when Lacey was told that Stacey is the killer, and possibly when Jake was told so he could support her? Any chance of a peek at the behind the scenes stuff going on (eg them rushing around in the golf buggies and getting ready for their cues?)
    Any plans to shoot a one off episode showing how Archie met his end and the movements of all the suspects in those minutes? You dont have to dress up the Vic for christmas again, we'll take it how it comes!

  • Comment number 7.

    I really enjoyed the episode. Thanks for answering all these questions too!

    I loved The Aftermath because it's nice to see the actors as they are in real life. Shame Lacey, Steve & Babs couldn't make it to R&R but I'm guessing they were exhausted. "Drained" was the word most of the cast used afterwards lol Must have been so stressful going out live.

  • Comment number 8.

    Congrats to everyone in the cast and crew. It was brilliantly acted, and the whole family sat in silence around the tv on friday night at 8 o clock! We were all amazed to find out it was Stacey, and sad to see Bradley die. Heres to another 25 years!
    Well done Diedrick!

  • Comment number 9.

    So you portray a young woman with a mental health disorder and now she's a murderer. If I thought for one second this is leading up to a sensitive and intelligent look at how the mentally ill are treated, especially when they have committed a crime their illness contributed to, I'd carry on watching. I suspect instead we'll get more of the same: ratings - and headline - grabbing sensationalism.

    As someone with mental health issues it feels like yet another kicking, especially by EastEnders. I've not forgotten how the exploration of Grant's trauma at what he'd witnessed while in the army was soon dropped in favour of him being portrayed as a violent 'nutter'.

    Congratulations. You've lost a viewer.

  • Comment number 10.

    CustardSock - ohh boo hoo, they lost you as a viewer. Its the end of the world. NOT!!

    Anyway, well done on a fantastic episode on Friday. Me and my family were hooked, proper on the edge of our seats. Eastenders - big talking point in work today, lol. Thats all the talk about, not the other boring soaps.
    Just wrote to say well done and keep it up, think all the actors did a brilliant job, so there were a few mistakes, no big deal i think most were expecting ALOT and there wasn't :) xx xx

  • Comment number 11.

    I can't congratulate the whole EastEnders team enough on the success of the live episoide. We were 100% engrossed in it for the entire half hour. It is the sadest thing I have seen on T.V. for a long time and still can me want to cry when I think about it!

    A massive well done to the brilliant Lacey, Charlie and Jake. Their performances were absolutely fantastic, so emotive. All's I can say is wow..

    I'm really gonna miss Bradders.. :-(

  • Comment number 12.

    Congratulations to all involved in the live episode, it was amazing and a really memorable way to celebrate the show's anniversary! Lacey Turner was fantastic as always, but especially considering she was ill.

    I'm curious as to what the 3 clues were that Stacey dunnit! I heard that they are:
    1. Stacey's voice can be heard whispering 'Bradley' just before Archie is killed
    2. Stacey is the first person to be shown on the trailer for the Christmas Day episode
    3. Stacey spitting on Archie's coffin at his funeral

    are these right?

    Also, would it be possible to see the Christmas Day and Boxing Day episodes again (maybe repeated on BBC Three or put on this website or on iPlayer)? It would be great to see them again now the killer's identity has been revealed.

    Thank you & happy 25th birthday Eastenders :)

  • Comment number 13.

    Diederick, I just wanted to congratulate you on an amazing episode, and an amazing storyline, and although I guessed that it was Stacey it didn't spoil the surprise at all! What a great way to end your time at EastEnders. You will be missed by the viewers, you have created some exceptional storylines and characters and and brought a great deal of realism to the show, in my opinion. I'd like to wish you all the best for whatever you move on to and I hope Bryan Kirkwood can keep up the amazing work on EastEnders.
    From (a different) Peter

  • Comment number 14.

    I never watch EAST ENDERS (the last time I watched it must be at least 10 years ago when Lou/Eth/Willy were around) but I did watch the LIVE episode, and very good it was too. I was epecting a very pedestrian (read: safe) storyline/acting but it exceeded expectations. May I ask is anyone unemployed (signing-on every two weeks, living of the dole)? I wonder if "soaps" address the mundane (as opposed to murders) things in life or is "holding up a mirror to life" too boring? BTW: why was Bradley's watch showing 20:20 at 20:07 (approx) during the bedroom scene? BTW I still have the first ever EAST ENDERS RADIO TIMES edition inlcuding the illustration of the Square from 1985; now that must be worth a bit. Congrats again - see you in 25 years?

  • Comment number 15.

    It's a shame that you take that view CustardSocks, failing to notice the sensitive way that the character of Jean has been handled for years and the portrayal of Ronnie as a woman who is struggling following her inability to deal with grief and years of personal trauma. There have been countless examples of characters coming to terms with depression and trauma and I think you are making quick judgements regarding the handling of Stacey.

    The murder wasn't written as happening during one of Stacey's bipolar peaks, she was on medication and coping with her illness at the time. She became a murderer not because she was mentally ill, but because she had been raped by a man who had already indirectly killed her best friend. Seeing the hurt it caused Bradley and the obstacles it had put in their lives, she was tipped over the edge. I am sure her bipolar will feature heavily as she struggles to deal with the events, but you are creating links between the disorder and murder that aren't necessarily implied.

    I've dealt with mental illness both personally and through my work and I think Eastenders does a lot of good work when dealing with sensitive issues. You cannot ignore the fact that the programme is a drama however and so in many cases, situations have to be manipulated to fit that drama.

    Congratulations Diederick, not just for this storyline and live episode, but for all the work that you have done on EE. You have made the programme unmissable again and the standard of the show is back to it's best. The big episodes have all been really gripping and emotional, but the storylines have also been enjoyable on a weekly basis. The live episode was phenomenal viewing and really added to the tension of the story. Please tell Simon Ashdown that he is truly wonderful at what he does and many fans recognise his consistently great writing.

    Good luck in future projects, you will be missed at EE!! Please please put Ronnie and Jack back together for a significant period of time as a parting gift!!! They're more than ready for it now! :)

  • Comment number 16.

    your live episode was fantastic and exciting. and ilove watching eastenders

  • Comment number 17.

    eastenders is the best soap in the world

  • Comment number 18.

    I am still irritated by the lack of information about Archie's death. We had no post mortem report, there were no forensics - DNA etc. - what about fingerprints on the Victoria bust ? Considering you put on Silent Witness, full of forensics, the legitimacy of the programme was non-existent.

  • Comment number 19.

    not watched in years, but tuned in on Friday night.

    thought the whole live thing was done very well - congrats to all. big question is are you going to do it again or was once enough?

    story line built well to the finale, the whole thing very believable. poor Charlie was still shaking half an hour later.

  • Comment number 20.

    Just seen a news report where the Police have complained about their portrayal during the Archie Mitchell case. Have to say I did wonder whether they would complain, what with the bribes and tampering with evidence, and of course chasing a person on to a roof (instead of backing off and getting a negotiator) however, drama can not reflect real life all of the time- they had to get him on the roof and be stressed enough to fall. Perhaps they ought to be careful to represent the Police in a much better light next time they do a crime scene or maybe even introduce an active policce officer to the square (not just a bent ex one like Jack!)

  • Comment number 21.

    What an amazing episode. Everyone at EastEnders should be so proud of themselves. To pull that kind of drama and tension off so convincingly is one thing but to do it live is something else entirely. All the cast, crew, writers, producers and directors have excelled themselves.

    I have been a massive Bradley and Stacey fan from the very beginning and I'd just like to thank Simon Ashdown for such an amazing script for their story to end on. For them to realise that after all they had been through they were still the loves of each others lives and always would be is all us "Bracey" fans have ever wanted and this was the most perfect ending their story could have had without being a sunset ending. Thank you to Lacey and Charlie for bringing the characters to life and creating a partnership that was truly magical. I am so sad their story is over but what a story it has been and I shall enjoy watching it back for years to come.

    Charlie you have no idea how much you and Bradley will be missed but I'm sure those electric performances over the last 4 years and- none more electric than Friday's- will mean that we shall see you back on our screens before long!

    Well done everyone! Here's to the next 25 years!

  • Comment number 22.

    Diederick, I don't know if you're going to be reading this comment, but I would like to congratulate you and your cast/crew on a FANTASTIC job on Friday - I had to keep reminding myself that the show was live! Everyone pulled out all the stops and maintained a level of professionalism that should make every actor proud.

    I was stunned by Charlie Clemment's exit and the reveal that it was Stacey. I just want to tell you that if anyone was capable of pushing Eastenders to a new level, it would be you. Your drive and ambition has well and trully paid off, you should congratulate yourself most heartilly.

    There are rumours that you are soon to be leaving EE, if this is the truth, I hope the show can maintain the high level of standard you have re-created and wish you all the best in your next venture. May your next project be just as successfull!

  • Comment number 23.

    I was very excited about Friday and watched it with a group of friends. It was brilliant, everyone did really really well. I thought for a moment it was Phil when Shirley said 'you got away with it' but then heard Stacey's little voice tell Max she did it. My first thought was well why didn't she tell Bradley and tell the police it was self defence but that wouldn't have made a great show (I know). My money had been on Becca, I can't figure out why she's in the show (apart from to annoy the life out of me). I think Bradley and Stacey were doomed from the start, sadly. I watched the after show on BBC3 which was great but I thought some of Larry Lamb's comments were a bit in-appropriate. Perhaps he'd had one too many? Its so strange because he's Gavin's Dad, not horrid Archie.

  • Comment number 24.

    I thought that eastenders live was the best episode ever :)
    well done to everyone involved with the show :)
    that was clever to keep the murder a secret i found it so much more exciting and interesting :)
    please never ever stop eastenders :P
    ill be looking foward to there 50th anniversary ;)
    iloveEastEnders .x

  • Comment number 25.

    Congratulations to all who worked on the live episode, especially Lacey and Charlie: I was riveted!

    I'd also like to know what the three clues were, please post them on the blog :)


  • Comment number 26.

    To be honest it was crap to have her as the killer, Ryan would have been a much better candidate, and brads death was really badly done. They forgot the passports so why didn’t she go and get them as the police were looking for him not her so it made no sense for him to risk going back to the house. Or why didn't they keep running, then phone Max so he could get them and arrange to meet somewhere outside Walford?

    Also why climb on the roof when spotted???? The whole falling off thing was just silly, he shouted Stacy run!! But why? he didn't know she was the killer and neither did anyone else so why would she now have to run if he was caught?

    Plus when he fell off nobody went to his aid to check his condition or if he could be revived. The Police just stood there like lemons and did nothing apart from hold Max and Jack back, but were happy to chase him across the roof. The whole thing was a total let down.

  • Comment number 27.

    American EE fan here - first time posting. We are two months behind, but I'm on the EE website everyday so I can read what's up to date. I thought Archie's killer was Sam...very surprised to find out it was Stacey. Can't wait to see the 'live' episode. Mr. Santer: would love to know what the 3 clues to the killer were please. I will greatly miss 'Bradders.' Been watching EE since it began (yes, I'm old).

  • Comment number 28.

    First of all congratulations to the actors, you didn’t stuff up.
    However what was the hype all about, eastenders has been known to be dull in the past .... and this live 25th anniversary special was no different.
    Have to say BBC this is not what I pay my TV licence for, you should be ashamed.

  • Comment number 29.

    hi east enders what a wonderful show on friday so stacey has another duf duf under her belt!!
    we noticed jacks mistake at the begining, but he soon got over it, well done all of you. cant wait for the next big storyline to get us gussing and sitting on th eedge of the seat.
    when is becca going to leave as she is a menice and minx hope she goes soon??????

  • Comment number 30.

    Having Stacey as the killer was brilliant! However, I'm annoyed because I've recently had a book published updating the classic Christmas Carol story with Stacey as the main character instead of Scrooge (the title is "A Wonderful Life?" ISBN 978-1-906905-09-5) and I hadn't bargained on this twist/development, but with the 'spirits' analysis of her past behaviour, this would've fitted in nicely. -well done.

  • Comment number 31.

    Hello, I'm the TV blog editor and I've got some good news for all of you who want to know more from Diederick.

    He's filmed some videos to answer some of the questions about the live episode which came up on Facebook, Twitter and the TV blog! The EastEnders web people are editing the films and hopefully the first one will go live on the EastEnders site tomorrow.

    I'll post a link when it does - because I know they asked him, among other things, to point out the three clues that Stacey was the killer. So keep an eye on the blog here!

    Meanwhile, in other exciting news - the scripts for the alternative endings have been published on the EastEnders blog and all the backstage action is on their blog too, since you asked rubydooby01.

    Thanks for your comments everyone.

  • Comment number 32.

    i cant believe bradley died he shud cum bk lyk dirty den did .y bradley it shud of been ryan or janine i love eastenders lol

  • Comment number 33.

    I have just watched the live Eastenders episode and first off, would like to congratulate some fine performances from the actors, a great job in acting! Secondly, I would like to express my utter disappointment towards the Eastenders writers and would like to say what a terrible job you have done over the past couple of years. Being a young scriptwriter myself, I understand the basics for a good script and, in my opinion, killing off characters is the easy way out for a show to progress, anyone can write a show and kill off characters to create a climax.
    I feel that over the past few years the show has gotten more and more depressing. I used to enjoy watching Eastenders, but it seems like it has become more of a burden to watch than a pleasure. I have been watching Eastenders for as long as I can remember, a good 10 years at least, but I feel that it has given as much as it can and to keep on watching it would lose the little credibility I still have left for the show. So I will end my comment by regretfully saying, you have lost a viewer. Good luck with your show.

  • Comment number 34.

    Congratulations to all the cast and crew involved in the live show.Absolutly brilliant even my partner who doesnt watch EE (there are a few still around)watched to find out who killed archie.Special congratulations to Lacey Turner who was brilliant despite having flu,and to Charlie Clements who bowed out in style,also to Jake Wood and Scott Maslen I know he fluffed his lines but picked it up and carried on brilliantly.Well done guys.

  • Comment number 35.

    I enjoyed the drama and tension of the East enders live episode, it was well acted (even with Jack's fluffed lines). I don't think the plot was that strong, why did bradley agree to going on the run (he is far more independent than he was a few years ago), there was a connection of him with Archie when he hit him. I surpose it was the idea of sheer panick and accidents that kept getting bigger.

    I don't get how or why bradley would go on the roof (so he could slip off I surpose and leave the show with a bang) he's a strong lad but surely not that atheletic, he would of given himself up. I think the writers just made stacey the murderer, because nobody would think of her, yes she had the motive and even the anger but I don't think she would of done it. The writers just wanted to put a warped twist on the storyline, everyone thought bradley did it and it turned out his wife did it. I think it's just piling the most misery they can on stacey and it's sensationalist. It is quite well done.

  • Comment number 36.

    Viewers have to understand and that Stacey, while mentally ill was actually attacked by Archie leaving her thinking that he was the father of her unborn child. What a dreadful predicament to be left in, leaving her in long term emotional and mental turmoil. Now her new husband and knight in shining white armour lies tragically dead after falling from the roof top as the police chase him thinking he was the killer. Will Stacey's life ever recover? will she ever expose the baby's real father? Will she suffer a relapse mentally? But how many viewers will actually feel sympathy for this character? Great acting by all, we wnat more.....

  • Comment number 37.

    I hope nothing bad happens to Stacey Slater, she better not og to prison or levae the show, shes fantastic. I absolutly love her. I remeber when I didn't use to like her when she first came to the show but when her character had progressed I absolutely loved her. I absolutely loved the live episode, the best and suspense bit was when Bradley had died and Stacey revealed that she is the killer. Although I felt sad when Bradley died. As I have said before on the otehr blogs 'Diederick why did you had to kill Bradley off, he could have just left the square with Stacey after she revealed she was the killer but not to Max but Bradley and make a surprise entry later on the year with Stacey.

  • Comment number 38.

    Id firstly like to congratulate all involved with this terrific storyline, and the exciting climax! Archie was a classic character, and from his first scenes brought so much entertainment.

    In terms of the live show, wow! I noticed a few minor things, Jacks stumble- but that actually fitted in quite well with storyline. A very shakey camera when it was nearing the climax outside the vic. Everyone held their nerve, and gave amazing preformances!

    Two of the most brilliant, heartbreaing, but exciting storylines i've ever seen on television. Ronnie/Danielle story, and her death, and this Archie murder story. Its great to see easties back on top, and giving these amazing, gripping storylines!!! Diedrick has done a sterline job, and he should be very proud of himself indeed, as well as Simon Ashdown, and all the crew!

    I wouldnt have chosen Stacey as the murderer, and I wouldn't have killed Bradley- I think the character of Stacey is given a bit too much to deal with... obviously tho, with an actress with the outstanding talent of Lacey Turner, its clear to see why she gets the gritty, tough stories- because she does them justice. Please tho- give Stacey a bit of peace for awhile!!!

    Well done again- looking forward to each and every episode to come!!!!

    P.s how does one get the dream job, in the script writing department of Eastenders????????????

  • Comment number 39.

    please please please eastenders get becca out the show she does my head in and i hate her acting
    if she be in eastenders any longer i might just have too swich off
    please get her off the show and put her in the mad house
    apart from that eastenders is great
    thank you

  • Comment number 40.

    Well, six days on and am still so gutted for Bradley! Will really miss him on the square - and hope that the TRUTH WILL OUT soon !! Good luck to Charlie for the future.

  • Comment number 41.

    dear everyone at Eastenders you should really do another live episode it was deadly

  • Comment number 42.

    I know this is going to be a repeat of many messages above, but I still feel the need to congratulate all involved in such a fantastic episode; every single person, from the runner to the writer and so forth. I don't often watch soaps but thought the episode was a triumph. How it was technically achieved I do not know. Hats off to the whole team, I can't see that being topped too soon!

  • Comment number 43.

    Brilliant live episode. Stacy was awsome. i was feeling all of her emotions. what a brilliant actress she is.
    Also well done Jack for not going to pieces and bring it back.
    Well done Eastenders, here is to the next 25 years

  • Comment number 44.

    I feel sooooo sorry for stacey hope she comes bk plsss !! xx

  • Comment number 45.

    i defo didnt think stacey wud be able to pick up that thing and actually wack archie not to mention i had me own ending planned. i thought sean would have come back to get revenge on archie for ruining last christmas anyway am glad i finally no who it is
    but there are still some questions unanswered and id reli appreciate it if someone could answer them:

    1. where was phil on christmas day and why did he need a false alibi if he didnt do it???

    2. who was trying to stitch up janine and why???

    3. why did bradley have to die in a stupid why??? i thought he was so much cleverer then that

  • Comment number 46.

    It was great i loved it, it had everything, had me on the edge of seat for episode right from when archie was killed.
    All i want to know though is Did Jack (Scott maslen) forget is lines or was that all part of it????????, if he did make the mistake then they certainly did not let it effect the rest of the scene. So top marks for that

  • Comment number 47.

    hi there! well what an excellent live EP it was! like the actress who plays mrs masood i was convinced it was Ronnie! i thought that when she threw the paint and her hands were red (blood on her hands?) was a clue! and the archie/ronnie snowglobe conversation was a clue but they werent!!! i was suprised to hear its stace! ok....my question is u know the trailer where he gets hit with the bust and u hear whispering ... who is it and what are they saying??? im sure u can hear someone whispering her name so perhaps someone knows what she's done i duno! xx


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