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Flotsam and Jetsam

Mark Devenport | 16:34 UK time, Friday, 29 January 2010

That's what we are, just journalistic pieces of debris lobbying around on the peaks and troughs of expectation from these talks.

After a night and a morning of optimism, the late afternoon feels more pessimistic. Sinn Fein's negotiators returned to the castle amidst rumours of a wobble amongst republicans over the proposed reforms on parading.

The DUP leader Peter Robinson came to the microphone with a sober message that he wouldn't sign off on any deal until he was satisfied it was right and that people here would be gutted if the process was brought down, but that he didn't believe collapse should be the outcome if there was no deal today.

The few are now predicting that the prime ministers will be en route any time soon and these negotiations could well go on into the night.

The Ulster Unionists haven't turned up at all today - their leader Sir Reg Empey was busy explaining his role in last months talks with the DUP at Orange Order headquarters to his huddled Tory partner Owen Patterson.

However senior Ulster Unionist sources say that even if there is a deal the party will not endorse it. Instead, they are expected to say that because they did not negotiate the agreement they will have to take it away and examine it before coming to a view.

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  • 1. At 5:05pm on 29 Jan 2010, Stormontspy wrote:

    Mark,

    What date will the divorce be for the Tories and UUP. Normally when an older man has an affair he goes to a younger model. Instead Reg chooses Peter. Wonder what Iris thinks...

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  • 2. At 6:43pm on 29 Jan 2010, purpleknight1001 wrote:

    Seeing as Tony Blair is now finished for the day and has probably knocked back a drink or two to steady the ship he might as well catch the next flight to Belfast and join the all night party, the more the merrier!

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  • 3. At 7:09pm on 29 Jan 2010, Pan-dora wrote:

    GO FOR IT HILLARY!

    Is there any truth in press speculation that Hillary Clinton has been invited to NI by Arlene Foster to open a number of new job centres?

    Surely the 'warning' by Envoy Declan Kelly (Belfast Telegraph) is a fig leaf for a new protectionism by the American administration to secure US jobs which is at the top of President Obama's agenda. I can assure both Secretary of State Clinton and Envoy Kelly that through the ups and downs of living in NI, I never once had to rely on hand-outs from the US.

    Pandora

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  • 4. At 9:27pm on 29 Jan 2010, SCB388 wrote:

    How can the Parades issue take up a week in discussions ? What about more pressing matters ? Given the debacle of the 11 plus fiasco and many other contentious issues, how can we entrust the devolution of Policing and Justice with Sinn Fein and the Duplicity party in the driving seat ?

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  • 5. At 10:26pm on 29 Jan 2010, democratic_Centrism wrote:

    Seeing as Tony Blair is now finished for the day and has probably knocked back a drink or two to steady the ship he might as well catch the next flight to Belfast and join the all night party, the more the merrier!

    I'm in the mood for regime change here, like many others no doubt!

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  • 6. At 11:31pm on 29 Jan 2010, spinspamspun7 wrote:

    This comment has been referred for further consideration. Explain

  • 7. At 00:08am on 30 Jan 2010, spinspamspun7 wrote:

    This comment has been referred for further consideration. Explain

  • 8. At 5:52pm on 30 Jan 2010, The_Oncoming_Storm wrote:

    Mark how much longer can this charade go on for? If these talks were a dog, they would be taken out the back and put out of it's misery!

    They should be given 24 hours to do a deal or Stormont will be suspended and all salaries and expenses stopped immediately.

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  • 9. At 9:43pm on 30 Jan 2010, spinspamspun7 wrote:

    This comment has been referred for further consideration. Explain

  • 10. At 10:43pm on 30 Jan 2010, spinspamspun7 wrote:

    This comment has been referred for further consideration. Explain

  • 11. At 11:41am on 31 Jan 2010, wheresJeffrey wrote:

    So the talks continue, but does anyone know where wee Jeffrey has been throughout the latest crisis?

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  • 12. At 12:51pm on 31 Jan 2010, DisgustedinDERRY wrote:

    #11

    You ask a question I have already answered; where's Jeffrey? He's in North Belfast washing taxis!

    I see the moderators were playing games with spinspamspun7?!?

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  • 13. At 1:33pm on 31 Jan 2010, Stormontspy wrote:

    Post 11,

    Your username and post is something we would all love to know. Speculation has it he is on the run from the Sunday papers!! Speculation has it that the Sundap papers will wait until a deal is done at the request off the NIO.

    Post 12

    do you ever get tired of playing the idiot!!

    Stormontspy

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  • 14. At 1:35pm on 31 Jan 2010, Stormontspy wrote:

    Message to moderators.

    Look through these postings. There is so many comments that have been referred to you. Stop dithering and make a decision.

    Stormontspy

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  • 15. At 2:26pm on 31 Jan 2010, SusieFlood wrote:

    Mark

    ON THE SEVENTH DAY THEY COMPLETED THEIR EXPENSES CLAIMS

    The break in the negotiations shows that our politicians have got their priorities right.

    As well as a deserved day's rest they will also be able to catch up on other important matters such as completing January's fiddled expenses claims.

    Susie
    Carryduff

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  • 16. At 4:32pm on 31 Jan 2010, DisgustedinDERRY wrote:

    #11

    Now there's a thought, maybe the vertically challenged is at the 'MOVIES' I'm guessing the Princess and the frog, or maybe a gangster film involving a terrorist and a taxi depot???

    Who knows!!!!!!

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  • 17. At 5:01pm on 31 Jan 2010, Pan-dora wrote:

    BBC AGENT PROVOCATEUR?

    An article appearing in Phoenix Magazine (published in Dublin) alleges that MI5 was responsible for exposing the Robinson scandal, and suggest BBC was its 'agent provocateur'.

    The head of BBC NI surely must respond to this suggestion of involvement with the security service.

    Pandora

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  • 18. At 7:26pm on 31 Jan 2010, spinspamspun7 wrote:

    This comment has been referred for further consideration. Explain

  • 19. At 7:31pm on 31 Jan 2010, Cui bono wrote:

    Help ive lost me wee dog. brief description-small, well kinda short has a lovely we coat (not that Sinn Fein one). Yaps loudly now and again and has a bad habit of licking things that we dare not mention on the day that it is , for fear of causing offence. But lalely i have not heard him and have not seen him for a week now and i'm really worried. I'v even contacted the press but they've been no help. They have'nt responded to my pleas its almost as if they've put a gagging order on me search for me wee mutt. So if anyone can help me find him i'd love ya for ever! ps he answers to the name of jef and if you throw an oul high heel for him he'll fetch it back and give ye a wee lick. RSVP

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  • 20. At 9:34pm on 31 Jan 2010, Stormontspy wrote:

    Pan-dora,

    I read the article you referred to. The BBC have questions to answer but I am sure they will do what they normally do... bottle it.

    Stormontspy

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  • 21. At 9:46pm on 31 Jan 2010, thelocalboy wrote:

    Stormontspy, Pan-dora,

    Anywhere online where I can see this article?
    Thanks.

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  • 22. At 9:56pm on 31 Jan 2010, Stormontspy wrote:

    Thelocalboy,

    Put into google - phoenix magazine alledges MI5 knew off robinson affair.

    Let me know how you get on.

    Stormontspy

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  • 23. At 11:43pm on 31 Jan 2010, Pan-dora wrote:

    22. thelocalboy:

    Google: Did MI5 Bring Down Peter and Iris Robinson

    This will find what you are looking for.

    Pandora

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  • 24. At 00:12am on 01 Feb 2010, spinspamspun7 wrote:

    #18 (referred to whom and by whom?)

    A moderate post to the moderators who bin to the bbc dustbin !!!!

    Only asked how far we could post ???

    I'll see how you waken in the morning !!!

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  • 25. At 00:14am on 01 Feb 2010, Stormontspy wrote:

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

  • 26. At 00:15am on 01 Feb 2010, Stormontspy wrote:

    Spinspamspun

    The moderators are slighly retarded. That will explain things..

    Stormontspy

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  • 27. At 00:41am on 01 Feb 2010, Stormontspy wrote:

    Post 25 hit a nerve. Come on BBC be honest! I pay your wages!!

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  • 28. At 01:45am on 01 Feb 2010, spinspamspun7 wrote:

    Jeffery Donaldson is the new PC moderator, cleaning Noel's taxi !!!

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  • 29. At 5:56pm on 01 Feb 2010, thelocalboy wrote:

    ahh yess..Thank you..i found that article online :)

    now, fellow bloggers, Ino a man who is going onto 'lets talk', and would who is trying to think of possible questions he could ask the politicans on the panel...
    any suggestions? A bit of a humerous one is always good tv aswell ;)

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  • 30. At 7:27pm on 01 Feb 2010, SusieFlood wrote:

    thelocalboy

    WHERE IS JEFFREY DONALDSON?

    Susie
    Carryduff

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  • 31. At 8:37pm on 01 Feb 2010, Stormontspy wrote:

    Thelocalboy,

    Ask Peter Robinson when does he receive his oscar?

    Stormontspy

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  • 32. At 09:50am on 02 Feb 2010, Stormontspy wrote:

    thelocalboy,

    Ask the panel will all MLA's from 2002 - 2007 give their salaries and expenses back as they done nothing for 5 years.

    Stormontspy

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  • 33. At 10:54pm on 02 Feb 2010, spinspamspun7 wrote:

    Is Jeffrey about? No, vanished, hospital visiting ???

    Anywhy time to address the almighty !!!

    Hello,
    Mr/Ms/DUP Moderator,
    Permission to post !!!

    I accept your removal of my post on "Hillsborough 3pm"
    Got carried away on my anti-Iraq stance, talking about Blair
    being taken to the Hague.

    Regards still being moderated posts "Flotsam and Jetsam"
    since 31st Jan. #6,#7,#9,#10,#18, still no response !!!

    Wasn't Claire Short great at Chilcot?

    When will an MLA get applause from the electorate???

    On the radio,this morning, Stephen with a "ph" stumbled/dropped his
    acidic/aserbic comments to an neutral/punchdrunk MLA and lost !!!

    Moderators,you have my email and tel no, If I've strayed beyond
    the pale, contact SPIN !!!

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  • 34. At 11:12pm on 02 Feb 2010, spinspamspun7 wrote:

    #31

    Stormontspy

    Ask Peter Robinson when he's receiving the Nobel Peace Prize !!!!



    Interesting to see how the moderators respond,before I'm wiped !!!

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  • 35. At 11:23pm on 02 Feb 2010, spinspamspun7 wrote:

    Again I'll try to get a post past the Moderaters

    Accepted I was over the top with "Hillsborough 3pm"

    What about #6#7#9#10 and #18 £££

    Days later and no response !!!

    Mark
    Remember one of the posts was about you scribbling on your coat.
    I added comment about kebab stains !!!

    Is humour ever allowed again ???

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  • 36. At 11:28pm on 02 Feb 2010, Stormontspy wrote:

    Spinspamspun,

    Check out post 24 on quick on the draw.

    Stormontspy

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  • 37. At 11:45pm on 02 Feb 2010, spinspamspun7 wrote:

    Bleather,

    YOU ARE AN RECONSTRUCTED NUMPTIE !!!


    Surely time for the Scottish Media Dianosaurs
    to cower beneath the truth, slaver, use my
    BBC contribution, no more !!!


    Campbell,Renton and you,you comic presenter !!!

    Time to present comment on Sccots Politics !!!

    BBC ???

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  • 38. At 00:21am on 03 Feb 2010, spinspamspun7 wrote:

    Staggered on posts!!!

    Moderaters respond !!! Can't be Jeffery,watching elsewhere !!!

    Have commented re my entrenched views on bLAIR !!!
    Still applauding Claire Short on her performance !!!

    Makes P+J almost an sideshow !!!
    So what's next ???

    Moderaters,still await an response to
    #6,#7,#9,#10 and#18 !!!

    Is this a discussion blog or just someperson to be PC
    and be polite to all others ???

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  • 39. At 00:34am on 03 Feb 2010, DisgustedinDERRY wrote:

    #38

    Ever heard the saying 'two monologues don't make dialogue'?

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