Obama and Zuck on jobs, education, health and fashion
For over an hour it was just two guys in white shirts and ties shooting the breeze about the economy, education, immigration, jobs, health care and even fashion.
Sure, they weren't any ordinary guys and they weren't alone.
This was President Barack Obama and Facebook boss Mark Zuckerberg, who had abandoned his trademark hoodie to host the first ever visit by a sitting head of state at the bricks and mortar headquarters of the world's biggest social network.
Mr Obama came to Facebook for an online town hall meeting to sell his deficit reduction plan and himself for another stint in the White House in 2012.
It seemed nothing was off the agenda as he happily answered questions asked by Mr Zuckerberg, live audience members and Facebook users who had logged in to take part virtually.
"A lot of people all over the world use Facebook to share a lot of things - things about their day, their families, their kids and of course their views on politics," said Mr Zuckerberg.
"It has never been as easy in the history of the world for people to have their voice heard and exercise their freedom of speech. Just post something, comment, like. But it's good to complement that online dialogue with some face time as well."
Mr Obama was in complete agreement, recognising the opportunity as one to reach out to some of the 600 million users who make up a younger demographic of the population and generally rely on their social group to keep them informed.
Throughout, Mr Obama played to the crowd by tackling issues dear to their heart. Silicon Valley has for a long time been pushing for changes in immigration law, at a time when the technology industry is fighting for talented engineers and computer scientists.
The president asked: "If we've got smart people who want to come here and start businesses and are PhDs in math and science and computer science, why don't we want them to stay? Why would we want to send them someplace else?"
To huge applause he added: "We want more Andy Grove's here (founder of the world's biggest chip maker Intel and an immigrant from Hungary). We don't want them starting an Intel in China or France. We want them starting them here."
On education, the president scored big time with this audience:
"We have got to lift our game up when it comes to teaching math and science," he said. "That hopefully is one of the most important legacies I can have as president of the United States."
Mr Obama also said he wanted to get people as excited as they once were about going to the Moon:
"I always hear stories about how we can't find engineers, and that's why we're emphasising math and science. We want to start making science cool," said Mr Obama.
"I want people to feel about the next big energy breakthrough and the next big internet breakthrough the same way they felt about the moonwalk."
Reducing the country's reliance on oil was another touchstone.
"It is so important for us to invest in new approaches to energy. We have got to have a long-term plan. It means investing in things like solar and wind."
And let's not forget the deficit which was the president's raison d'etre for coming to Facebook.
"We have an unsustainable situation," he said. "We face a critical time where we are going make some decisions - how do we bring down the debt in the short term, and how do we bring down the debt in the long term?"
Mr Obama repeated his call for the end of tax cuts for the wealthy and noted that millionaires like himself and Mr Zuckerberg will have to pay more. "I'm cool with that," the 26-year-old Zuckerberg interjected. Though according to Facebook's latest valuation, Mr Zuckerberg is no longer a millionaire. His company is now worth $60bn.
Mr Obama's final pitch came to the young people who came out in force to help elect him to the White House in 2008. While he recognised that many who played such a pivotal role back then might well feel frustrated at the pace of change and the lack of progress, the President appealed to them to get involved once again for 2012 - whether it be for him or the other guy:
"I know that some of you who might have been involved in the campaign or been energised back in 2008, you're frustrated that, gosh, it didn't get done fast enough and it seems like everybody's bickering all the time," said Mr Obama.
"Just remember that we've been through tougher times before. If you don't give us a shove, if you don't give the system a push, it's just not going to change. And you're going to be the ones who end up suffering the consequences," he added.
The town hall, which pulled in over 2,800 online comments, was seen as a landmark event for Facebook and it's internet TV channel.
"I could never have dreamed when I first started working here that six years later Facebook would be the platform that the president of the country would choose to speak to everyone in America," said Randi Zuckerberg, Facebook's head of consumer marketing.
"It's a pinnacle for us in the United States but I think there is still so much that can be covered by Facebook Live around the world. Facebook is a really global platform and President Obama's view is the view of one political party and we want to make sure we hit a representative sample because Facebook users come from all over the world, all political beliefs."
The audience was made up of about 500 Facebook employees who won a ticket in a company lottery. Other guests included well-known Silicon Valley figures like Ron Conway, dubbed the godfather of angel investing, Yelp chief executive Jeremy Stoppelman, Dan Rosenswieg of Chegg, and Meebo's Seth Steinberg. MC Hammer, musician and entrepreneur added a little bit of glamour to the occasion.
Before the event kicked off, there was a lot of buzz about what Mr Zuckerberg would be wearing. Famed for his dressed down look, he did don a jacket, shirt and tie when he joined other tech titans in February to dine with Mr Obama.
This time around, he dusted off the same outfit - something the President made fun about:
"My name is Barack Obama and I am the guy who got Mark Zuckerberg to wear a jacket and tie," he quipped.
In reply, Mr Zuckerberg presented the president with his very own Facebook hoodie: "in case you want to dress like me".
Comment number 1.
At 13:02 21st Apr 2011, budgood wrote:it was pretty rude to ask the nation if they had any questions and then ignore them completely. The number one question from facebook was about the contradiction in federal and state law in regards to the legal availability of cannabis
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At 13:09 21st Apr 2011, budgood wrote:war was not mentioned once, kind of an elephant in the room and I was surprised that given the tech savvy crowd that the issue of net neutrality was not brought up given the recent botched policy allowing mobile internet to prioritise trafic, which will dictate that resources will now go into building the mobile infrastructure up instead of fixed line because it will be in the interests of the telecoms corporations. it seems plenty of questions were to controversial for him to address and his responses were quite slow and laboured if you ask me.
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At 13:20 21st Apr 2011, budgood wrote:anyone is better than Bush though.
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At 18:46 21st Apr 2011, genericdelusional606comment wrote:All PR - nothing of substance, words and no action is all you get from any politican/
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At 21:35 21st Apr 2011, budgood wrote:this blog is a bit slow
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At 21:59 21st Apr 2011, TheCommunist wrote:Disagree with you budgood.
At least Bush had some experience. What did Obama have, two years as a senator? Really give me a break
Make weed legal
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Comment number 7.
At 22:11 21st Apr 2011, TheCommunist wrote:Plus I enjoyed Bush's speeches, especially when he started to stray from the written speech. That's when he was funny to watch.
Unfortunantly people do not give him the credit he deserves.
Let's see Bush was in for two terms and two wars and raised the national debt by around 5tn dollars.
And on the other hand is Obama. In office for 2 years and has already spent some 4tn dollars. Doesn't that worry anyone?
NOBAMA
I'm what you would call the younger generation and he doesn't appeal to me. He's well spoken but inexperienced.
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At 23:31 21st Apr 2011, budgood wrote:lots of criticism "TheCommunist" but your poor grasp of facts obviously precludes you from being able to offer any rational alternatives.
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At 03:52 22nd Apr 2011, viola wrote:I thought it was a bit cheeky for "Faceboy" to sit opposite the president man-o-man (must be he's contributing big-time to the Obamarama campaign).
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At 07:27 22nd Apr 2011, time4justice wrote:I just hope our first good President in a decade isn't foolish enough to accept dirty Yelp money and alienate the entire small business community. Quick, where's my one-star button?
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At 06:34 23rd Apr 2011, tedpoe wrote:Obama and Zuckerberg make a good team. Jobs are coming back to America but Corporate America has to do more. http://www.digitalundivide.com
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At 11:11 24th Apr 2011, Tengsted wrote:Another blog about Facebook? Shockeroonie!
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At 14:29 24th Apr 2011, philip3561 wrote:"The town hall, which pulled in over 2,800 online comments, was seen as a landmark event for Facebook and it's internet TV channel."
Can only hope that education extends to grammar..... "it is internet TV channel"???
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At 02:07 25th Apr 2011, Kennys_Heroes wrote:100% tax for all personal earnings over $1bn, would solve a lot of problems.
Would MZ be cool with that?
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At 11:27 26th Apr 2011, jerrymcph wrote:This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.
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At 20:56 26th Apr 2011, TheCommunist wrote:budgood
Give me some facts on one good thing Obama has done that has really benefitted this country?
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At 14:56 28th Apr 2011, USAperson wrote:16 - nothing - 2 more companies in the northeast just announced they were going offshore.
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