Stuck in Istanbul
Our departure has been further delayed now by a mysterious development - the motor on the captain's chair on our charter plane is reported to be broken. Much hilarity in Istanbul - parts are being flown by F-16 from London. (I made that up - at least the F-16 bit...)
Nobody here knows why a captain's chair has a motor - are there any pilots reading the blog?
Some reporters are demanding a per diem. Others are hoping to stay and become Ritz-based local reporters...
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"the motor on the captain's chair on our charter plane is reported to be broken"
Did all that Obama-induced drool from the press pack slosh forward into the cockpit and cause the chair to break somehow?
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Justin, with the autopilot on board there is little for the captain to do. So they like to spin their chairs around, going 'wheeee'. This gets a little tiring after 15 minutes or so, so a motorised chair takes the effort out of it.
Hope this helps.
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Poor y'all....
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Strange the only pilot I have met were in a addiction rehabilitation facility.3 out of 15 flew.
Safe travels.
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Well I guess it just puts off the awful moment when you and all the other sufferers of Obamamania have to
leave cloud cuckoo land and face reality. Bon voyage and happy landings Justin
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Justin, now that the Republican Senator who lost his seat due to alleged corruption has now been proven innocent, will you finally blog on it?, the judge said that in 25 years he has never come across such disgraceful tactics by the prosecution, indeed he has ordered criminal charges against the prosecution team.
You blogged on his conviction, so can I expect you to blog on his conviction being overturned?.
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It could be much worse Justin. I had a similar experience many years ago while flying back from Ascension Island on a C-141. The pilot reported mechanical problems and we had to land at the SAC base in Ramey, PR. After some deliberations it was decided that we would have to spend the night on the island. The next morning a crew member had to fetch the pilot who had spent the night at his girlfriend's house and was MIA. I suspect the tool used to correct the mechanical problems was a roto rooter!
In the meantime, enjoy the Turkish coffee! Have a nice flight home unless, of course, there are no more unscheduled detours in which case you may have to enjoy dates and yoghurt...
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Rustigjongns (#6) "now that the Republican Senator who lost his seat due to alleged corruption has now been proven innocent ... "
Senator Stevens has not been "proven innocent." His conviction has been overturned due to prosecutorial misconduct. It is unlikely he will be retried, so he will remain unconvicted, but it is not the same as being exonerated.
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Gary, very true. But does it not also mean that he is found not guilty?
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seanspa (#9), no, it does not. The jury verdict has been annulled, not replaced. His situation is the same as before he was indicted, since the indictment was also thrown out. If the verdict was dismissed "with prejudice," that would mean that he could not be tried again, which could be interpreted as meaning that there is not sufficient evidence (the new evidence being taken into account) to convict, or, alternatively, merely that the nature of the charges does not warrant a second trial. I have not read whether or not the indictment and verdict were dismissed "with prejudice."
Occasionally, a court will find that a defendant is "factually innocent," which is exoneration. I have not read that that is the case here.
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seanspa (#9), upon further investigation, I have found that the judge dismissed the case "with prejudice" as requested by the Justice Department, so Stevens cannot be retried on these charges. In the court of public opinion, we are all free to think whatever we like about the man.
Lots of people think that politicians as a class are liars and thieves, whether indicted or not. As for me, I have no opinion on Stevens, beyond thinking it was time for him to retire anyway.
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ref #6 and 8
I am not going to say Stevens is innocent but there are others who may have done worse currently sitting in congress.
But this was a politically motivated prosection to get rid of Steevens and although nothing will be done I have contacted my Senators to urge the Senator currently sitting to resign. There is no way Stevens would have lost otherwise.
But I remember a former cabinent member after being found innocent in a similar trial asking"Where could he go to get his reputation back?"
Still waiting for the prosecution of Chris Dodd to begin
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Oh no, i feel for you Justin. I like the guy who blamed it on autopilot. Thats all the fun the pilots get. You should try and get at least BBC news to them.
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"... become Ritz-based local reporters" - you already are, aren't you? If you ever left the lavish confines of the unreal world of the Ritz's for a moment and did some serious reporting on the real problems ordinary people face every day, it might prove a sobering corrective to the intoxication with the Obama myths. Evidently the demonstrations at the G20 conclave in London didn't penetrate the sedate salons of the Ritz. Nor do the human rights violations in Turkey matter as much as some pilot's seat cushion. And the "hilarity" of F-16's is lost on Palestinians and Afghani who are still waiting for their reservations at the Ritz until their bombed-out homes are rebuilt.
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14, Douglas.
You must be a barrel of fun at parties.
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Justin:
Some reporters are demanding a per diem. Others are hoping to stay and become Ritz-based local reporters...
I have to agreed with the per-diem pay...
-Dennis Junior
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Justin:
Nobody here knows why a captain's chair has a motor - are there any pilots reading the blog?
I hope some pilots would be reading the blog of yours....
-Dennis Junior
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@11: Considering that the DoJ requested that the case be dismissed with prejudice, it's a pretty clear indication that they believed they got what they wanted. Since what they wanted was obviously not Stevens' punishment (because they asked for dismissal with prejudice) then either they knew he was innocent (which would have been egregious prosecutorial misconduct) or they knew they couldn't prove their case (same thing before our laws) or they just wanted him out of office (which may go beyond misconduct to something else). Any one fo the three is beyond the pale in my opinion.
@all: This is another example of our country trashing the rule of law (one of the two principles, along with the consent of the governed, that allows our government to operate). It makes me wonder if anyone in leadership even wonders any more how those of us on the outside react to their behavior. It's almost like they only focus on either impressing each other or on playing gotcha with each other, and our purpose in all this is only to pour more money in their jars so they can play longer.
In any case, here's hoping the prosecution team is sentenced to (a) being disbarred for life, (b) prohibited from ever interacting with any level of government as an employee, a contractor, a consultant, or a lobbyist, and (c) sentenced to picking up trash on the side of the road or mopping floors in Federal buildings for the next 10 years on Saturdays. I see no reason for my tax dollars to pay for their housing or upkeep, so no jail time; they can instead retrain and work a real regular Monday-Friday job, like the rest of us.
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lol the Ritz Istanbul. is that the one that had all the roaches in it?
He should have got in touch with the Consulate and tried to see if he could get a room.
A beautiful building . If it has been repaired after the attack.
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9 seanspa
legally yes.
but isn't it funny.
Gherkin. I thank you for mentioning that he may well not be innocent.
One reason I deride you but hold you above the likes of Truepo.
Seanspa I'm pretty sure he took some riches. and agree with Gherkin that others have.
I find it funny that some think him innocent .FOR SURE. when OJ got off on technicalities they were still ready to hang him.
We all know what happened. prosecutors were forced to rush to get it on the table. or it would have been hidden forever.
Not the most relable two in alaska there. Stevens and Palin.
Who jumped on Stevens when given the opportunity.
Was it the Dems or Palin that pushed.
No verdict here.
He's gone, who cares now.
Just keep an eye on the Gorilla from Wasilla.
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arclightt (#19), I don't agree with your analysis. Remember that the prosecution was undertaken by the previous administration. It was a Republican administration prosecuting a Republican Senator. It does not seem likely that it was a merely political investigation; it is more likely that they believed the case warranted prosecution. Why it was mishandled so badly is a matter under investigation, and I don't think it is helpful to speculate. If individuals are found to have acted improperly, there are remedies which can be applied, including disbarment if appropriate.
As for the request by the Justice Department, under a new Attorney General, to dismiss with prejudice "in the interests of justice," all it means is that the Attorney General believes the conviction is tainted and that it cannot be reprosecuted. It does not mean that he believes that Stevens would have been found guilty or not guilty had the case been handled properly from the beginning.
Attorney General Holder has no stake in this case. He wants to get rid of it, and he wants to clean up his department.
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22 so it could have been the gorilla that pushed it.
Thanks
the without prejudice assessment seems right.
"lets not waste any more money because someone screwed up."(maybe even someone who will end up with a nice holiday home out of it. not a street sweeping job.
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22, Gary -
Heard on the news that a judge has dismissed all charges, which I believe in effect turns back the clock as if it never happened - no trial, no conviction - so I think that pretty much declares him "legally innocent" since he has by the judge's decision not only not been proved guilty but not been charged. But, oy, what a mess. I think he was guilty at the very least of stupidity and naivete, but wondered all along about the conveniently missing witness.
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bere54 (#24), I don't think there is any such term as "legally innocent." It is correct that his status is back where it was before the indictment, except that he cannot be reindicted on the same charges.
An interesting question at this point is whether there is any merit in the argument that the new Senator ought to resign so that a new election can be held without the cloud of conviction over Steven's head. The Republicans want this, of course, but it was a Republican administration which prosecuted Stevens.
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Gary_A_Hill, no matter your personal dislike for republicans the man has been found innocent, how can you interpret the Judges freely available judgement as proving that Mr Stevens is not innocent?.
Your final argument is obviously an attempt at misdirection, tell me would you prefer innocent people to go to jail just because their political views do not match your own?.
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Happy, I agree with all the comments suggesting that those in congress are not 'innocent'. I was not suggesting that Stevens was, just pressing Gary on the point.
I have said before that they must be a time limit on 'serving'. Else it always turns into helping yourself.
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25, Gary - "I don't think there is any such term as "legally innocent."
A person is legally innocent until legally convicted, but no, it is not a legal term -- that's why I put it in quotes, meaning that he is considered (by the law) as innocent as anyone else is who has not been charged with and convicted of a crime -- the old innocent-until-proved-guilty thing.
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26, Rust -
Stevens has not been "found innocent." His conviction has been overturned and the charges dismissed (not due to proof of innocence but rather to prosecutorial malfeasance), so he is no longer guilty. Therefore he is innocent (see my comment 28) but he has not been found innocent by a jury verdict. There is a difference. In other words, he is not liable under the law but he has not been acquitted of the charges. It's more like the charges were never made.
The law is a strange animal.
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bere54 (#28), our disagreement is only over nuances of English usage. Whether a person is "innocent" or not is a question of fact. Our legal system presumes that a person is innocent until proven guilty to a particular standard. A person can be found "not guilty" even when they are not, in fact, innocent.
Sometimes a person will be exonerated after being a suspect, or even convicted, and will be declared "factually innocent." This normally applies when the wrong person has been charged with a crime, and it does not really apply in Stevens' case. There is no question of Stevens being the right person, but it is a matter of judgment whether anything he did constitutes a crime. That judgment ultimately is one for a jury, and even though a jury declared him guilty, he is now and will remain unconvicted (and unindicted) because the judgment and indictment were vacated and he cannot be retried.
I just don't find the term "legally innocent" to be helpful. Call me a quibbler, if you like.
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Rusti (#26), why do you assume I dislike Republicans? My own mother is a rock-ribbed Republican, and I love her.
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Here's a link a definition of presumption of innocence from a legal encyclopedia, for the wonks among us:
http://www.answers.com/topic/presumption-of-innocence
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30, Gary -
A little tidbit I was taught in journalism class lo those many years ago:
Since a jury verdict is either "guilty" or "not guilty" (but never "innocent'), the "found innocent" expression is a journalism one, and the reason for that is to prevent errors (huge libelous errors), because if the "not" in "not guilty" were accidentally left out of a headline there could be big trouble.
I find it interesting that the law never declares anyone to be "innocent." (Except before trial.) They are only declared to be "not guilty," which is almost like saying "not proved."
So my term should have been "legally not guilty." Which under these circumstances does not clear his name in the same way a jury verdict would have. And even a jury verdict does not alway clear one in the eyes of the public, i.e., O.J. Simpson.
If it is the adverb "legally" you quibble with, I can't help that. He has been legally cleared of the charges.
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bere54 (#33) "If it is the adverb "legally" you quibble with, I can't help that. He has been legally cleared of the charges."
No, it is more your use of "innocent," and especially in conjuction with "legally" to create an unhelpful term "legally innocent" to which I object. The encyclopedia article to which I linked covers the notion of presumption of innocence pretty well, I think, and I will leave it at that.
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The journalistic angle is interesting, but it seems to me that "acquitted" is the term best used, because it refers to a finding of not guilty, rather than to actual guilt or innocence.
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35 -
Either one, we were told, was preferable over "not guilty" for reporting purposes, but for some reason "found innocent" seemed preferable over "acquitted," though I agree with you. Perhaps it was thought that "acquitted" was more difficult for the reading public to understand back then. That was, of course, way back before the advent and popularity of legal dramas on TV, except of course for Perry Mason.
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I find it fascinating the backwards and forwards over the Steven's case. It seems clear that the message is that he was not cleared on a mere technicality. The question arises were the prosecutors just inept or did they have an ulterior motive. Remember that in the last 8 years it seems that lot of people were put into jobs (remember the Justice Department scandal) because of their politics not their skills, and so the former is quite possible. If the latter, and as the prosecutors were Republican it will be very interesting to know their motives.
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26 was OJ innocent?
computer says yess.
How many believed it?
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26 Who went to jail?
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37 PUSH PALIN.
simple enough motive.
she turned out to be a dud though.
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@22 (Gary A Hill): I wondered as I wrote that why an R administration would go after an R senator unless they thought there was something there.
Accepting, however, at face value the current AJ's decision not to retry the charges, then either (a) the current AJ saw that the charges were not true or (b) he saw that they were unprovable. In either case, the previous AJ and prosecution team should have seen the same thing. The fact that they chose not to (combined with the judge's investigation into prosecutorial misconduct) suggests pretty strongly that the senator was wrongly tried in the first place.
Note that this doesn't determine whether the senator did things that were unethical or immoral, or he did not. From what came out, it seems to me that he was crowding the ethical line, at the very least; however, that's sadly all too common across all levels of government, not just the Congress, the White House, the Ds, or the Rs.
Regards to all.
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arclightt (#41), neither (a), nor (b) is correct. The case was dropped by the current AJ because of defects in the prosecution which would have come out during appeals.
I don't agree that Senator Stevens was wrongly tried, I believe that the prosecution was improperly handled. We don't know whether a proper prosecution would have resulted in a different verdict.
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Chit-chat kitchen posters -
After composing a lengthy, well thought out and incredibly amusing post was told no comment was supplied so I have unilaterally decided to move the discussion here. Looks like a good spot, nice Istanbul location with plenty of room to grow.
Could the return of Heloise have anything to do with this?
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timewaits -
Thought I would find you here.
Same thing happened to me. Funny coincidence that it happened with the return of Heloise. But publius will tell us that he has been helpful and should not be spanked! (Isn't that a bit like telling the French that we saved them in WWII so they are supposed to help us in Iraq? Just joking, of course.) I suspected something was wrong before I tried to post because all sorts of things had turned bold that had not been so before.
I'm sure your post that disappeared was brilliant!
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bere54
Coincidence??!! I don't think so! Liked your analogy with the French.
"Oh thank you for shutting and bolting the door, unfortunately we were all outside at the time! But... not your fault, you meant well."
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bere54
I see that British-ish is allowed to post on the Heloise corrupted page! Which is now all bold. Gave it a try, but with no success. I do not want to go onto the current thread and interrupt their conversation about.... religion!
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It's just starting to snow here. Watching the news from Spokane, just 30 miles west of here, they have about 3 inches on the ground. Just hope it's stopped and disappeared before soccer practice this afternoon. 72F forecast for this weekend. Lucky thing that the older you get the quicker time flies.
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timewaits -
I knew it was gender-related! The last time the thread went wrong, it only affected the females, remember? Does this mean that Heloise is a closet sexist? Will anyone look for us here if they are able to post on the other thread? Are we crying in the wilderness?
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seanspa -
So sorry about the snow. This too shall pass. Of course, I can comfortably say that as we are having a bright sunny day and it might get as warm as 60(F) today.
Are you, as a male person, able to post a comment on Still Stuck? If so, please tell Heloise that he has locked some of us out, and that we are over here feeling a bit rejected.
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I can confirm that females are not singled out. No comment supplied indeed.
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seanspa -
I am very sorry to hear that! Must check the Montreal weather... Nope! nothing but sun and mild 10c in the forecast. Do you get Chinooks as they do in Calgary?
Alberta's economy is taking a nosedive with the falling oil prices. Lots of stories about Canadians who went there for jobs now returning home.
And yes, time whips by with age!
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bere54
"closet sexist"
I believe he would deny that charge. That does not mean it is untrue. He did call me "Darling" once, I thought it charming. I don't mind being someone's darling! Would you consider that sexist? I am not a closet or card carrying feminist.
Maybe at this point I could go into a long story about how I had my past read.....! (Relates to the topic.)
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timewaits, by mentioning whips I can only assume you are trying to tempt sam onto this thread.
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Someone, not me! will have to bravely venture onto the now Prison page, as I see Detroit can also post on our old thread. Should I ever have the opportunity to speak with Heloise again, will have "a word" with him!
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seanspa
Very amusing, but I don't think our chit-chat is his style, nor whips mine. Sorry if I misled anyone! I'm still puzzling over happylaze's reference to, leg vices!
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timewaits -
I don't mind at all being called "Darling," but I can't remember the last time someone did. Very little really offends me, except perhaps being called "You a--h--le!" I can thankfully say that hasn't happened recently either.
First religion, now prison? What happened to the puppy? Last time I looked over there, there were about twenty-seven not-yet-posted posts from happylaze.
seanspa -
Perhaps your computer is gender-conflicted?
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happylaze is able to post in Still Stuck so I went over to the prison and left him a message.
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I feel like we are closet posters or in Maxwell Smart's cone of silence. Sooner or later someone who is able to post will notice our absence. If not I will have to drown my sorrow in house cleaning! And I really do not want to be doing that! Were are Detroit's tracking skills?
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Every time someone posts on Still Stuck we have to post something here so as not to fall behind number wise on the "Topical posts." I'm running out of things to say. Maybe I could tell a long winded story posting one word at a time!!
I'll begin. "Once...."
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bere, if my laptop was a mac you may be right about the computer being girlie. funnily enough it's an HP, and you know he's a male as well.
I've tried a number of times to post on the other thread, but to no avail. Oh well, I'll just have to stay and chat with the ladies.
This may shed some light on happy's leg vice.
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Maybe seanspa's is one of these, pink! Or purple, that I have been told is the new pink!
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Good pick timewaits. I see the pox has spread from Reflecting into Still Waiting. I had the kitchen band strike up a tune to soothe the brawl. I think we might enjoy the tune here also.
And-a-one
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bere54
Good work! I notice on the old thread happylaze is ironically suggesting people "Speak Up."
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I have taken it into my own hands to communicate directly with said jester and to recommend that if the same could be applied to truly a pile of.... we would all appreciate it.
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60 sean now I know why Sam always says the intrnet was invented for porn,
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seanspa
With trepidation went to your link. "Uh oh, what kind of trouble is seanspa going to get me into now?" Turned out to be just a regular, run-of-the-mill, leg vice. Such a surprise! Could you not find any legs with vices? (as in the other kind.)
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63 lol time I was merely suggesting that if they think they can post then do, but for people that have never entered into the conversation to start telling those that have joined in what to do is a bit like a backseat driver.
who has their own controls but refuses to use them while the bitch about the driver.
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Ha! Found you! Have some of us been sent to the naughty corner?
I wonder if this will post?
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bere54
63 (con't)... And!! speaking on our behalf.
happylaze, I thought you told me I had nothing to fear from you! Men and their promises...! (Jest! jest!)
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I think I might have led it away for a while. but have to go check on our newest member of the familly. Number 4 who is now sitting under Betsy Magoo being Cheep.
Keep posts infrequent and include lots on one post.
Throw a tosh at the other threads for good measure . Or start organising a mass boycott of the blog to deter the truely offensivly boring and infantile one.
But the Gary you like him don't you. Don't find him half as irritating as the likes of me.
Well done talk of appeasers
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Time to share some good news. My youngest sister has been declared free of cancer upon completion of her treatments and having had time to recover:-)
She'll be able to start back to work 3 days a week as a beginning.
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Still testing, at least this time the post is appearing.
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To Publiusdetroit
I love the muppets.
Jim Henson was a genius who is missed by many, although his production company is continuing. I loved the characters they produced for "Farscape."
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A little bird told me,
No comment was supplied."
And it seems it was all down to an un-closed tag (I don't recall not closing it! ;-)
It's hybrid software, so I reckon the problem's in the mickey$oft part...
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pulius, great news and I'm sure a huge relief.
Happy, instead of your one word posts, you could use this link as variety.
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Ed, what you say may be true, but why does that mean that some can post and some cannot? Even if we don't want to get involved in the same old argument.
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Publius, Good news. Give her my very best wishes.
The rest of y'all (ducks), I'm truly sorry. (IF it was an unclosed bold move on my part.)
;-)
Halitosis
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publiusdetroit
Well that is very good news. I am happy for her, you and your family.
happylaze
I think #70 requires a bit of translation. About I can understand is that you want us to "throw a tosh" from time to time.
AND..... Heloise?!!? Would you please stop doing whatever it is you are doing. Part of my post - that I was NOT able to post - was to welcome you back! You do not come across as the sort of person who thinks it is acceptable to leave destruction in their wake. But you are, so please stop, for your darling Canadian's sake. And if that doesn't do it I don't know what will.
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To#71 Publiusdetroit
This is, indeed excellent news!
To all:
I have a serious question to raise that I tried to post on the other thread. I have been following the situation with Roxana Saberi who goes on trial today. Apparently, she did break some laws but is she really a spy? This does not seem likely to me. It reeks of politics and games.
How will this effect relations with Iran if she is found guilty and what would be her penalties?
Just asking, and if this is too serious we can revisit the question of 'first puppy's' bona fides. (why does this site have such difficulty with Latin?) It was not my fault it was introduced on the 'serious' thread. Gunsandreligion mentioned it first and I was only following the idea to its logical conclusion.
I wonder if this is too long to post?
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I just posted a comment that did not register.
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75 happylaze
I know, I know. Now how to say this without bringing the wrath of somebody down on me? Did you notice I received a compliment? First pleasant comment I have read. It might not mean much to you but does to me. Perhaps the Canadian way has some merit. You must know how to sweet talk. Do you not?
Haven't you ever been given the silent treatment? Very effective, which is why women use it so often. (Betraying the secrets of the sisterhood here.) Gets the point across.
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Sean's Dad,
It is strange that only Happy can post. Maybe it's in the smoke, but (as it happens) I'm also similarly enhanced at the moment, but facing a door which fails to acknowlege a comment, even one attempting closure....
;-)
More good wishes to Publius' sister. God(s) blessings.
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Ref 76 seanspa
Thanks. It was great news and a relief.
Joy
aquarizonagal
I thought Sesame Street was one of the best uses of television ever created. My mother used to provide day care for my oldest neice. I came back home to help on the farm, and was also working an afternoon shift in a factory. My niece and I would watch 3 hours of the Street most every morning I was not in the fields. One show in English; the next in French; the third in Spanish. She is now a teacher. Speaks quite fluent Spanish (she took classes), can get by in French.
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82 many have tried . many have knocked me for not trying. but you are being played as a tool to justify his annoyance.
I would not think that he is being respectful to you . just that having been called out for being a liar and always sticking to being nasty he throws a line like this in. Which he always does.
Try to then reason with him.
If you like. I won't.
Pub,
Glad to hear she's doing well.
I hope she want's to return to work, as opposed to being encouraged. I had a friend that was at work because the medical would be stopped if she did not go back.
79 Time the first part was actually about our chicken having hatched a chick today.
Lol Halitosis.
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To follow the Prunus Virginiana threadlet, I have similar memories as it being the stuff of dares (like who can hold on to the electric fence longest, etc.). They are very sour!
But Granny Fletcher's chokecherry wine did suffer shrinkage once we discovered where it was stashed....It was possibly my first alcohol.
Regarding the glitch, i reckon the blockage is more an artefact of some attempt to un-bold the thread...unintended consequences and all.
Timewaits, Thanks for your intended welcome, and be assured you're still my darling, and I wasn't even playing...just careless, IF it was me.
Loading the offending page (in a new tab) and examining th source code (ctrl/u) and searching for 'heloise' (ctrl/f and then "previous" to get to last occurence)) will reveal a strange script fragment....(or maybe you'll find yoursrlf as the script subject...?)
Why are they avoiding me? (pouts)
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To Timewaitsfornoman:
Most of the time I can understand Happylaze quite well but other times I think we all need some of what he uses in order to 'get' the message.
I see that my serious post did appear here so if any are so inclined please enlighten me. Otherwise, let the kitchen ring with laughter, music, good conversation, and be blessed with good foods and good wine or beer for those so inclined!
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I went out to run some errands and come back to find everyone here!
publius - great news about your sister!
seanspa - are you implying that my Mac is girlie? I assure you it is not; his name is Thomas.
aqua - I too have been concerned about Roxanna Saberi. Surely the diplomats have something in the works. Maybe it's just a trick to give Iran a bit of bargaining power.
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85 happylaze
No, no I'm going with the silent treatment! I am not easily wooed.
I thought you were talking about chickens, but did not know you had any, now I do.
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Timewaits and bere were commenting earlier about the use of the term of endearment "Darling", and how they did not find it offensive.
I have noticed that waitresses in many diners have begun using the old endearments once again. Hon, Honey, Darling, Sweetie, etc.; are being used as they once were by those Darlings of the Diners. I find it fun and refreshing, especially since they enjoy endearments returned to them.
I find that Darling, Gorgeous, Good-looking, Beautiful; are always well received in return. My mug of joe is always kept well warmed and it opens the door for delightful banter in the diners where this revival of once taboo endearments are allowed.
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Aqua, I too have been following the case. It seems odd that the charges have escalated from buying alcohol, through working without a press card (which the iranians removed), to spying. In the light of a lack of details on the spying charges, it's impossible to even guess whether there is any substance. We can only hope that she gets treated fairly.
Whatever the facts, the case is not going to help improve US/Iranian relations.
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Aqua .. I would think her innocent but a journalist has to be careful in foreign lands, maybe she was spying. It is not as if the US has not got spies there.
She is now getting a trial. (as with the USA "whatever that means" does come to mind)
And it did not take as long as some of those at Gitmo.
I suspect Iran wishes to make this point.
Not defending anyone here. just daring to give an answer.
I hope she is allowed a fair trial.
but I wish that for all that face trial.
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happylaze - I don't mind at all your speaking for me at #367 on the thread-gone-wrong. You expressed my sentiments. And I like your string of one word comments on comments; not only succinct but says all that needs to be said. Eliminate needless words! per Strunk and White. If everybody simply responded "tosh" perhaps those boring diatribes would dwindle away.
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89 1 lonely bantie that insists on trying to hatch several times a year.
She had no eggs under her until 21 days ago and has been sitting since early Jan.
We got worried she'd never quit sitting so we got a couple of fertilised eggs from a friend and stuck them under her. Last year she had two 'Anaconda ' chicks -twice her size in no time.
She's the perfect chicken for someone who wants to rear chicken. We don't just a few eggs here and there.
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publius, our diner waitresses don't use regular diner endearments. Maybe it's the reserved New Englander thing. Except there's one down the highway a piece where the waitress always calls me "hon." I only go in there when I'm delivering someone to the train but she always remembers me.
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publiusdetroit
Hhhmmm not sure about some of those terms! Not for me anyway. Living where I do and having a real (as in, not faked) charming Frenchman call me, "ma chere" should do it! Or almost anything they say! I'm really letting out trade secret here. But, none of you are French, so I'm safe. Two men I know with the same name (neither one my husband) puts an "ie" on the end of my name and I find that appealing. Maybe I should suggest my husband try! but really why should he require my helpful hints.
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93 bere54
"Tosh" I agree. I suggested the silent treatment but maybe men are not capable of it.
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I have friends here who had some bantams and something came along night after night and ate them all. So sad. Not for me; I cannot get attached to chickens, having once worked with great hordes of the stupid things. But my friends were sad.
Once when I was house-sitting for these friends, the chickens massed together and menaced me until I gave them an extra feeding. They actually herded me towards the barn. I was in fear for my life.
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aquarizonagal
There was a terrible case involving a Canadian-Iranian photo journalist a few years ago. She did not survive the experience.
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Very sad news: Hallmark is cutting hundreds of jobs. Wonder if this means people's taste is improving. Will the people who turn perfectly decent songs into elevator music be next?
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To #94 Happylaze
We had a Bantie hen like that we called her "Little Mama." She was a great setter and a good mom. She even hatched two duck eggs for us once.
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#100, funny!
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bere thanks.
I'm all up for the Tosh approach
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HcXcYlF3_0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLJFRgE4Ywk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwZ_78ciKgI&feature=related (not tosh on this one. but different)
You can fool some people Sometimes.. but you can;t fool all the people all the time
and one for TT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQlOLARxC_A
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To all
Thanks for responding to my questions re: Roxana Saberi. I also hope she gets a fair trial and does not become a ring in a political ring toss.
A waitress at our local diner calls us "my old sweeties." We always tip well on the rare occasions that we visit. I think that is why she remembers us.
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Thanks to all others who are sharing the good news of my sister.
The Kid Sister
My eldest sister returned home from college for summer break and bought a new electric typewriter to replace her old manual, portable typewriter which she gave to Kid Sister to play with; telling Kid Sister that if she learned to use proper typing techniques the eldest would let her use her new electic typewriter.
At age seven, Kid Sister rode her bicycle into town; checked out a typing manual from the town library; sat down to the little manual typewriter and began typing from the Junior Encyclopedia Britanica, starting at letter "A".
I seemed to be the only one in the family paying any attention to the progress Kid Sister was making with her typing skills (I doted on Kid Sister). I was supplying her with reams of paper and new typing ribbons whenever she ran low. I also proof-read her copy. Kid Sister was up to the letter "L" when I showed Eldest Sister the huge stack of typed pages and asked her when she was going to fulfill her end of the deal. Eldest Sister was amazed, and granted access to her electric typewriter. Kid Sister was typing at a blazing 175+ wpm on the manual typewriter by then. The electric typewriter allowed her to increase her wpm to 200+ in no time.
Eldest Sister had transfered to a nearby Community College to save money on tuition and live at home. Kid Sister went on to finish her typing of the JEB by the end of the year. Kid Sister had truly gained encyclopedia knowledge from her passion to learn typing.
Happylaze
She is thrilled to be going back to work. She's a dedicated nurse, and loves her job. The hospital did not pressure her to return. I know many companies do force people into returning to work before they have recovered enough to handle tasks. The company I retired from was one of them.
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101 lol Aqua
Hotel california by Sir Robert Nasta Marley (who was like our president of two races ,though many forget that.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OnvE60gMa4&NR=1
"self-closing bold": (or <b /> if that doesn't show up right).
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105 Glad to hear it
106 Opps
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Love that Kid Sister! Respect!
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Having grown-up on eggs from free-range chickens, I still look at the pale yolks and paper-thin shells from a "factory" operation with distain. Best eggs still come from chickens that get to peck in the cow pies. We always raised Rhode Island Reds.
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To Happylaze and Hesiodos
Just visited the other thread and I admire your perseverance and your intestinal fortitude.
I see that the Red Cross is now being castigated. I have personally witnessed the work these good folk do so was tempted to wade in with my pittance but discretion being a better part of valor for me I have returned here instead.
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Heloise
Because you asked, I did as you said and followed your directions. Other than finding a fragment that I guess I wrote that was as far as I got.
You apologize like I do...."IF"....!
Your C.D. (my new initials)
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On the subject of Roxanna Saberi I ask; Ms Marbles, where are you? I would certainly welcome your intimate knowledge of Iran on this subject.
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Well Kiddies,
My dear one and I must now go to the CPA in order to "render unto Caesar."
So sad...I will check back later. Have fun!
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