Lib Dames a-waiting
Their fingers are itching but Lib Dem officials over in the Wales Millennium Centre are having to hold off from counting the votes in the Welsh leadership election.
Supporters of Kirsty Wiliams and Jenny Randerson are all waiting too ... for the postman. Lib Dem rules say the ballot boxes won't be opened until midday OR until the last postal votes arrive.
So the party has rules around when precisely they can open ballot boxes but not around what happens when there's a tied vote in a crucial debate on taking the party into coalition government?
I'm Betsan Powys, BBC Wales' political editor. I'll be blogging the inside track on 
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Oh, I wish this was on proper telly, with Betsan giving live 'blow-by-blow' coverage, and Vaughan Roderick giving bilingual graphic explanations of the type beloved by Jeremy Vine, with Adrian Masters doing a pseudo-Paxo 'did you threaten to over-rule her' questioning..
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So much like a non event as far as the public would appear to be concerned.
Lib Dems? what the hell are they for, at least toilet paper has a function,
and can succefully be flushed once it's function has been completed.
To most peiople I speak to, and have been so dioing for the last few decadesm, they are a total irrelevance, their sole and only function to ctreate a unnecessary divide between those who wish to ensure a relatively fair and balanced socio/economic fabric for all, and those, who to use Thatchers words, will benefit from the wealth threading it's way down from the top under her moneyterist policies.
Neither of which seems to have done the general public much good over the last forty years or so.
As I see it, the Lib Dem's have done much to stymy any attempts to go either way, and as such have been a terrible stumbling block to democracy.
Where they have managed to gain power of sorts, in local council chambers, they have little to be proud of despite all their crowing.
But they certainly have extended the time scale where more definitive and valued work could have been achieved, had they not managed to screw themselves in, by the lousy and simplistic election process tolerated in this most undemocratic of so called democracies.
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