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Despite continual protests from campaigners, sales of animal fur have risen.
It remains fashion's biggest taboo but whether we like it or not, fur can be seen on fashion catwalks around the world and is being worn by the rich and famous.
Are our attitudes changing? Is it ever right to wear real fur?
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Fur should stay where it belongs - on the animal!
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As the saying goes, it takes 40 dumb animals to make a fur coat but one dumb animal to wear it. If these people could just see how fur is obtained, especially in places like China where animals are skinned alive, then they would think twice about wearing it.
Vile disgusting fashion for vile disgusting people.
FJ, Isle of Wight
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People only think fur is cruel because furry animals are cute!
Dale, from Thropton.
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I wear fur if it is second hand, and would only buy new if i could find farmed fur from a good breeder along the lines of organic/free range ethics. I would never wear new fur from wild animals.
What's the difference between fur and other animal products?
S. Wilkins
cardiff
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I can't see the problem. We have for all time used animals for food and clothing - is eating going to become frowned upon next? There's enough regulation to ensure the animals are well treated. There are very few man made materials that have the same properties when faced with a siberian winter.
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Would anyone wear human skin??? Who gave anyone the right to kill animals for their fur, it's sick and wrong.
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I happily eat meat and wear leather shoes so think it would be a bit hypocrytical to complain about fur.
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I wear leather so why not fur? Utterly ridiculous to not wear fur. Are we going to ban the innuits from wearing fur. We have done it for tens of thousands of years.
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I personally wouldn't wear fur because i think it looks ugly but i think that anyone who eats meat shouldn't turn their noses up to fur, it's hypocritical.
Anyone who isn't a vegetarian/vegan should accept that fur has been used by the cave men to keep them warm and wear as clothes
Jess
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The return of fur as a fashion item is in short disgusting. Any civilised person should realise that there are so many alternatives to fur in the modern world there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to wear this murderous item.
Perhaps these fur toting celebrities who by default are promoting the wearing of fur to all of the misguided youth around the world would feel differently if we started skinning little dogs and strapping those on our backs!
Simon, Milton Keynes
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It is never right to wear any kind of fur. If anyone has seen the way cats are bred for their fur and the treatment they receive in china then surely they must agree. I have never seen anything so cruel in my life. Why should an animal die so that we can wear its coat. These days it is so easy to buy imitation fur soits completely unnecessary to wear the real thing.
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Fur is worn by beautiful animals and ugly, ignorant people.
Fake fur is so realistic now that NOBODY needs to wear animal fur for fashion or fun. It must never be allowed back in the shops.
Brenda, Suffolk
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I believe that the problem lies not with the ethics of wearing fur but the animal rights and wellfare involved. If fur is produced in a manner that is acceptible then there should be some mechanism by which tracabilty can be ensured. We manage it with meat, why not fur? We all wear leather after all!
Jonathan in Exeter
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No, I don't think it is ever right - we are now all fully aware of the cruelty involved, and how anybody can feel good walking around wearing a dead animal is beyond me!
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I saw a video exposing the non-regulated Chinese fur trace and it was one of the most vile, inhumane and disturbing things that I have ever seen.
I wouldn't dream of wearing fur and I imagine that anyone else who has seen this video wouldn't either...
Steve, Brighton
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Its never right to wear fur (leather and sheepskin are by products of the food industry) fur and in particualr the skinning of live dogs and cats as is going on at the minute in China is despicable - degrading - disgusting - no one but the animal should wear fur .....
Pauline Greenhalgh
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if the animal is going to be killed anyway, what does it matter, like leather,
the one show christmas single for number one, its furry good
jeff from liverpool hope uni
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I think its disgusting the way people flaunt their wealth with fur.I am a Rabbit and Cat owner and the thought of these fantastic animals being killed by people feeding others stupid egos upsets me.
As a by product and survival necessity its more acceptable.but only if your an Eskimo
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If someone feels it is OK to wear fur from animals - then I feel they are probably likely not to care much for any precious life.
If anyone has seen the footage released by PETA, which was filmed in China, of cats and dogs (amongst other poor creatures) packed into tiny cages and thrown about and then being skinned alive - and if you think this is OK, then these people need questioning.
If a human being is capable of such vile acts upon an animal, then they could also be capable of inflicting the same act on a human being.
Please don't wear fur. Respect all precious life!
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sure its ok to wear fur. it is a renewable source, it is not oil based therefore it is a green product.
We will all be running around naked if all the anti fur/ global warming lobby have their way.
Then we would be in trouble with the moralists.
fur hasalways been a clothing item along with animal skins.
I say to the protestors, get over it and find a hobby.
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Fur coats are worn by beautiful animals and ugly people.
Why anyone would feel the need to slaughter animals in their quest for warmth, or god forbid, fashion beggars belief - there are plenty of faux alternatives. People that wear fur are heartless and ignorant.
Thea, Northampton
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We should wear fur because we are better than other animals and we should flaunt it. John in Birmingham
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Let those who wear it watch how the animals suffer in life and death for their own vanity. Fake is good!
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If people want to wear animal skins, they should buy a Donkey jacket !!
Lewis, Holland
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in reply to the comments of remabcastle - please have a search on the internet to see the kind of 'regulations' that are followed in the production of fur. Have a look at the dog fur trade in the far east or the hunting and the method of killing baby seals. Not to mention the commercial production of fur animal.
And to those who feel its ok because we eat meat or wear leather then please consider that leather is a by product of the food trade and that the eating of meat is natural for humans - we are carnivours. The killing of an animal purely for fashion is unnaceptable in the modern world.
simon, milton keynes
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I wear an old fur coat, hat and gloves when out in our old open-top vintage car. They keep me snug as a bug in a rug and look right for the year. 1929. People in cold climates used to wear furs all the time and I am sure they saved lives.
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I would never dream of wearing fur. Most fur farms have appaualing conditions for the animals and death is rarely quick and painless. There are synthetic furs that are luxurious and well made, I can't think of a single reasons that designers are still using this cave-man clothing.
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I am surprised at this as I thought that people's attitude towards the welfare of animals has changed for the better. The wearing of real fur is totally unnecessary in this day and age and people who wear it disgust me. Would they wear their pet dog or cat? I don't think so.
Caroline, Beckford, Tewkesbury
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Today I was sent a heartbreaking video of animals in China being skinned alive for their fur, together with a petition. So no I don't think it's acceptable to wear fur. Fake fur looks great so why do we have to take the life of an animal? If every animal was killed humanely and we needed to wear fur to keep warm then that would be a different story.
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Totally disagree with rare animal fur being used and think people should be made aware of the horrific way in which animals in China are killed for their fur (dog and cats included). They should also know that the feux fur on their coats may be cat or dog. There are some amazing artificial non-animal furs these days and these should be promoted by designers not animals!
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YES!!! Its beautiful and has been part of fashion for many years! I love Fur, Most of it is vintage. However, I would not buy fur from China tho, as the animals are skinned alive. If Millions of people eat meat everyday, then i dont see the problem with people wearing fur!
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On no account should anyone wear fur. Perhaps the wearers should see a video on the cruel ways that most animals are killed in order to keep the fur clean. Plenty of good man-made look-alike furs around.
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Nope - there are excellent synthetic products available. Leave the fur where it belongs! Might have been necessary for cavemen but totally not needed now.
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If you are willing to skin the animal alive yourself then why not? In fact why stop there? Why not wear the entrails too and smear the blood over your face? That might make you feel and look better.
Alternatively, use your brain and end the suffering.
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Fur is the only really warm material and as I suffer from Reynaud's Syndrome it is important that I keep warm.
I have a 50 year old mink coat that was created almost before I was born and I have no compunctions about wearing it. I agreee with other comments that it is hypocritical to eat mear and enjoy other animal by-products and yet get out of your tree about wearing fur.
Madeline
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Absolutely not, a human wearing a fur coat is an ugly sight, leave it where it belongs to the beautiful creature.
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Fur has long been associated with other materialistic status symbols, usually by people who don't have much but wish to 'wear their wealth'. The manner in which this fur is produced, especially in the lower price ranges, is despicable, often with the animal being skinned before they are even dead. The wearing of fur just signifies indifference to suffering to compensate for something missing in the wearer's lives.
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Why buy real fur when modern fake fur is just as realistic? At least no animals are killed for fake fur.
Sarah from Swansea
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Fur is for beautiful animals not ugly people.
Ora
London
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There is a huge difference between breeding and killing an animal for food and the distasteful practice of killing wild animals purely for aesthetic vanity. Modern imitation furs - if you like that kind of wear - is capable of providing the same effect without the murdering of wild animals for no genuinely good reason. If hunting is banned, and this was confirmed by this Governments own report (the Burns Report) as being the most humane way of controlling foxes, then killing wild animals for Vanity should defrinitely be banned.
Jeremy
Worcester
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Why should animals die to make selfish women look beautiful as they think.
Are we such a cruel nation?
If the people who wear it had to kill the animal then they would think twice, especially if it was running around in its natural habitat instead of having the cowards way out of farming it in a pen and having some heartless profiteer do their dirty work for them.
Margaret. Dunblane Scotland
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I think fur is fine - as long as the animal is killed to eat. Using any animal for just it's skin/feathers/fur is wasteful and shows utter contempt for other species.
Linda, Thetford
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Fur is plain wrong, people think because they have the money to buy it they have the right to wear it
it's not fashionable it's sick cruelty on this scale to animals all in the need of a fashion statement just shows how low we can really go.
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Agree with most of the above, it's not the fur itself that is the issue it is the means by which it is removed from the animal. Yes we have leather shoes etc. but the inhumane manner in which fur is obtained makes any fur products unacceptable. We don't need the heat that fur provides and it isn't even practical to wear most of the time. Luise in cornwall
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I have watched videos produced by PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) which are hugely disturbing and horrific. Animals kept in crampt cages piled on top of each other out in the elements. Some are skinned alive, some have their heads bashed in and some are electrocuted. Which ever the way, their death is incredibally brutal and their skinless body is then thrown away or left to rot - think also of the canadian seal hunt! You cannot compare the leather by product of the meat industry to the agony these "fur" animals have to edure in their short sad life.
Jude Argyll
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Of course you shouldn't wear fur!!!!!
It's truly revolting and disgusting.
We don't live in caves anymore, just in case some of you hadn't noticed ... and don't NEED to eat animals there are enough regulations to ensure the animals are well treated". This is not true.
Regards from Ruth in Braunschweig, Germany
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Caroline, Tewkesbury
I am surprised at this as I thought that peoples attitude towards the welfare of animals had changed for the better. The wearing of real fur is totally unnecessary in this day and age and people who wear it disgust me. Would they wear their pet dog or cat? I don't think so.
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Animals are bred and kept in small cages all of their loives before being killed in an unpleasant fashion so that their fur can be used. The alternative method is to trap, in a painful and unpleasant fashion, an animal in the wild. The fashion for leopard fur coats and tiger rugs helped to drive these beautiful cats to near extinction.
fur looks so much better on the animal than as a trim on a coat!
In the last few years, faux fur has become extremely popular and it looks very real. I have no problem with wearing this and enjoy it, it's lovely and soft to the touch.
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Fur is completely unnecicsary and incredibly cruel. It is disgusting that people would justify the live skinning of innocent creatures simply so they can look good.
jenny from bournemouth
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Because we are at the top of the carnivore food chain we accept the killing of animals in order to provide the necessary protein for a healthy living standard.
To breed/trap or otherwise kill another living creature just because we wish to be seen wearing it's fur to appease our vanity amounts to blatant obscenity,particular in an age when man made fibres are quite capable of reproducing to a high standard
William of Newbury
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p.s. by the way, why not ask Paul McCartney for his views - and his daughter Stella. :-))
Ruth in Germany
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I personally believe that its wrong to wear fur, it always looks better on the animal than on a human being. Fake fur is so good these days there is no need to have to kill animals for it. The Chinese have always had a sadistic nature towards animals and this is obvious in their treatment of animals.
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Why kill an animal for the sole use of its fur? In this day and age of artificial fur, there is no need to wear it.
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Hi great show. The fur from animals is there to protect them,not us, we have our own skin.The market place is full of Faux fur which looks and feels good.Another fact is that the Canadian Bear is being killed for the fashion of the Royal guards headgear,again there are cruelty free products out ther if we just look.
Regards Dennis Owen
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last week I crossed the line in this dilemma of - fur or not to fur . when the fur in question comes from an altogether different era- ( circe 1900 ) I regard this as permissible I thought of it as getting familiar with great Auntie Daisy's DNA.
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I do not eat or wear any animals, and follow a vegan diet. But even as a vegan, I do not think it is hypocritical at all for non vegies to not wear fur. It is one thing to eat something to give sustenance, it is completely another to inhumanly rip the skin from another living creature, and put it on ones own skin, purely in the name of fashion, something utterly frivolous and needless. Fur looks much better were it originally belongs.
But the question is do we have the 'right'. One needs to define what having the 'right' actually is. It's a way of justifying our actions. Can we, in the western world, justify farming animals in unimaginably inhuman ways, purely to rip them up, rip off their skin, and put it on our skin, for no other reason than fashion?
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Nothing in life is ever clear cut. As with animal testing, it could be argued that if something is done to prolong life it is justifiable. However, if it is for the sake of vanity, it is abhorrent. Innuits wearing animal fur for survival is completely different from Eva Longoria where Ocelot fur because she thinks it makes her look nice.
I find it hard to understand why anyone would want to where a dead animal. All creatures look better alive.
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When my daughter was 8 years old a neighbour asked her whether she liked their new bearskin rug. She calmly replied that she thought it probably looked much better when it was on the bear. Says it all really, doesn't it?
Cynthia, Cornwall.
P.S. On which planet does remabcastle live? High welfare standards for animals bred for fur? You haven't heard about the way animals are brutalised in China, obviously. Educate yourself, please.
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fur is soft,gorgeous and makes you feel like Greta Garbo. Rabbit fur is lovely... eat the meat, then use the fur. why not?
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Fur coats are worn by beautiful animals and ugly people!
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SUSAN CARDIFF.
WHY CAN'T PEOPLE REALISE THAT THE FUR LOOKS MUCH BETTER ON THE ANIMAL IT WAS MEANT FOR.
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Leather comes from animals farmed for food, fur comes from animals killed specifically for their fur and some suffering indescribable agony when killed. The wearing of fur is unacceptable and only goes to highlight human vanity at any cost.
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No matter how beautiful you are, fur looks better on its natural owner.
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Ithink that fur is abhorant and that it looks better on the animals.
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Fur looks much much nicer where it originally came from.
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Fur is plain wrong, people think because they have the money to buy it they have the right to wear it
it's not fashionable it's sick cruelty on this scale to animals all in the need of a fashion statement just shows how low we can really go.
Kim Ritchie, Edinburgh
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i think fur should not be worn because i was brought up thinking and being told would you like it if it happend to you and if i was a sheep or any animal with fur i wouldnt want it so it shouldn't be alowed to be used!
from peter age 14
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To anyone who supports fur, go on the PETA website and watch the animlals cramped into tiny cages, then watch as a dog is skinnned alive, then left to die. It can take up to half an hour for an animal that has been skinned to die. Look into that creatures eyes and then see if you can wear your coat.
Jenny from bournemouth
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There are plenty of excellent fake furs without killing animals,
Fur looks better on the original owner. Only a total boycott will stop the ill treatment of animals to obtain them
Elisabeth69
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i think wearing is fine its fashion and it feels beautifuland you look great in it.xx by april age 11
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sorry but I'll start wearing fur when I become a teddy bear, but at my age I more likely to be a teddy boy
Keep the fur on the animal that owned it as of right
Jon
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Im a veggie and would not wear anything from an animal. Theres so many other materials that look just as good. Its a very selfish thing to do. I only hope there is such a thing as karma and people who buy fur one day suffer the way the poor animals have done. People need to stop thinking about themselves and start thinking about how its made. I think it looks disgusting. Why do humans think they have the right to do this? Why do we believe we are any better than anything else? People are on the whole a disgusting race.
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If you wear fur please watch video clips of the pain and torture that animals go through! They feel pain and fear just like we as humans do! Its sickening!
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The way animals are treated for fur is horrible. Fur is a sick thing. Its for cute animals and ugly people. Whats wrong with fashion, i like it but why were animals fur and skin when you have perfectly good skin and hair. People are sick to even think fur should make a comeback. Im very opininated on this subject and have done a speech about it. It was tittled i would rather go naked than wear fur, which is a phrase used that i found im ny research. People need to get a grip you wouldnt drape a human skin around you, why an animals. They should have just the sam equal rights as humans, just because they dont have the gift of speech means we can treat them any different ot humans!!!
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It's wrong to wear fur!!
How would we all feel if someone was to take off our skin and then wear it just to look good!
What's wrong with fake fur, looks just as good, half the price, and not nearly as cruel.
I don't understand why people would want to wear fur anyway, it's like wearing a dead animal!
I am truely against wearing animal fur, it's wrong, cruel, and down right pointless!
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Fake fur is warm and very luxurious these days why do you have to kill to get fur, the argument that if you eat meat etc (I don't) makes it ok is rubbish - cows are killed for meat and to waste the skin is disresepctful to the animal - minks are purely bred and killed for their skins, the animal itself is wasted which is not the same.
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The fur industry is founded on either keeping animals in cages all their lives or killing wild animals for no other reason than their fur or the horrific treatment of cats and dogs by skinning alive. Anyone who wears fur whether new or second hand is part of that horror. Only the huge financial resources and power of the fur industry has kept this disgusting trade alive. If the fashion industry had any sense of morality fur would be history.
Frankie from New Forest
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I dont think its right to wear real fur but if its pretend fur thats ok. One more thing, if we eat meat and the animal that the meat came off of I think its ok if you take the fur off. Or if you really want real fur just get it where you know that the aniaml was killed humanliy.
Thankyou
Melissah xx =]
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I have no moral objection to wearing fur. I eat meat, wear leather, so why not wear fur? Fake fur is very toxic to produce. Foxes are pests in some areas. I f they are to be culled use their pelts. Fox fur looksmuch better on me than it does' on some mangey murdering fox!
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While there are alternatives to the real thing, why kill animals to keep you warm? I would never ever, ever wear fur!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Animals farmed for their fur are brutalised, mistreated, starved and killed in the most horrific ways. I would regard anyone who wears farmed fur as someone without a conscious who is only interested in their image.
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I believe it is immoral to breed and kill another species for fur. People who wear such items are vain and have no compassion for other species.
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The comment about the total boycott is right but whilst the fashionista's and designers still bring out the tired old arguments about fur being better the stupid women with more money than morals will continue to follow like the pathetic sheep they are.... Luise cornwall
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It's okay to wear leather and suede because it comes from the cow, which we farm and kill to eat the meat. So, on this basis, it's okay to wear cow's fur as it is a by product.
However, if fur coats are made from animals soley "farmed" to use their fur, then it is wrong. If we use all of the animal, then okay.
Just my opinion.
Diane, Derby
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I do not agree with fur, it's so wrong and generally it seems that it's not obtained by humane methods and they methods that are used are horrendous.
As a vegetarian I don't think I could every agree with fur even if it was done humanley. (see comment 45)
Gemma, Wilts
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S Wilkins - I also wear second hand fur but that doesn't stop loonies trying to set light to it.
Chris Chester
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Just to add on to dukehorses comment. I had a fake fur mink jacket and it was very warm. Even though I did not wear it very often it was warm. So why cant people that want real fur just have the fake fur its just the same difference.
Thanks
Melissah xx =]
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I do not mind fur being worn if the fur is used for meat. What concerns me is that if it becomes fashionable and desireable by the elite - would there be a demand for more exotic fur such as endangered species?
It should be regulated to make sure this doesn't happen.
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Wearing fur is wrong.
Animals are just like us, how would we feel if people wore our skin, which is like the fur on an animal.
It's not right, it's cruel and pointless, and fake fur still isn't the best, but a lot better as it's cheaper, and a lot less cruel.
If everyones complaining about the credit crunch at the moment anyway, why would anyone want to spend lots of money on an expensive piece of clothing, especially when it's pointless and considered as animal cruelty!!!
fur is a no go!
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i would say fur is ok but the fact is that people are not using the fur thats available like from things we kill to eat. they are killing and wasting animals just for fasion.
from cece
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Cats and dogs are being skinned ALIVE while we speak in certain countries...the fashion trade is causing this cruelty...stop it by not wearing fur xxxxxxxxx
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Humans' indifference to the suffering and cruelty that man causes to other species is the big issue and the fur trade offers the cruelest amongst our species a means of making money and being dispicably cruel at the same time. Every individual needs to change attitudes and realise we have a responsibility to look after the other species with which we share this planet.
A dog or a bear's life is as precious to them as ours are to us. Live and let live.
Why would Nigella want to kill a bear, whether it's from Alaska or anywhere else? An indifferent attitude.
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I had to dress up once for a play and my mum made me a fox scarf out of furry material why not even do that if you want a dead animal round your neck. Even though its wrong!!!!!!!
Thanks
Melissah xx =]
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It's wrong to wear fur!!
How would we all feel if someone was to take off our skin and then wear it just to look good!
What's wrong with fake fur, looks just as good, half the price, and not nearly as cruel.
I don't understand why people would want to wear fur anyway, it's like wearing a dead animal!
I am truely against wearing animal fur, it's wrong, cruel, and down right pointless!
If everyones complaining about the credit crunch at the moment anyway, why would anyone want to spend lots of money on an expensive piece of clothing, especially when it's pointless and considered as animal cruelty!!!
fur is a no go!
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Humans' indifference to the suffering and cruelty that man causes to other species is the big issue and the fur trade offers the cruelest amongst our species a means of making money and being dispicably cruel at the same time. Every individual needs to change attitudes and realise we have a responsibility to look after the other species with which we share this planet.
A dog or a bear's life is as precious to them as ours are to us. Live and let live.
Why would Nigella want to kill a bear, whether it's from Alaska or anywhere else? An indifferent attitude.
Tim London
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Ok - I eat meat, so I have no problem with wearing leather and suede.... we eat the pigs and cows and sheep, so it's only right to use as much of the animal as we can. I don't understand vegetarians who wear leather.
However, I've not met anyone who EATS mink or chinchilla, or leopard or tiger...... which makes a significant difference. To kill something merely to wear its skin, when there are perfectly good modern substitutes available seems unethical. Yes, cavemen wore furs - but they didn't have alternatives. Yes, the Inuit wear fur - but they do use as much of the animal as possible, and given the conditions fur may well be the best option.
But as yet, it's not 30 degrees below on the modern High Street. The whole fur thing is being driven by fashion and the desire to flaunt wealth.
Fur is better left on the animal. And face it folks - it will never look as good on you as it does on the original creature.
Kath, Aberdeen
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It's wrong to wear fur!!
How would we all feel if someone was to take off our skin and then wear it just to look good!
What's wrong with fake fur, looks just as good, half the price, and not nearly as cruel.
I don't understand why people would want to wear fur anyway, it's like wearing a dead animal!
I am truely against wearing animal fur, it's wrong, cruel, and down right pointless!
If everyones complaining about the credit crunch at the moment anyway, why would anyone want to spend lots of money on an expensive piece of clothing, especially when it's pointless and considered as animal cruelty!!!
fur is a no go!
From lucy, solihull.
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For those of you, like me, who object to ill treatment of animals kept in cages for fur, the potential extinction of animals in the wild and the distressing way that they are slaughtered - especially in China, can find positive ways to objecting by signing petitions at www.care2.com
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From Alan in Brentford.
As my veggie wife once said "I wear leather because he (me) will eat the rest of the cow."
I/we have no problem with skin/fleece/fur from a food animal, after all pelts have been clothing for thousands of years. I do object to using an inedible animal just for its pelt.
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while I do eat meat and wear leather, I consider it totally wrong to wear the skin of wild animals.
as a by product of food production I would find it more aceptable
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leoathome it is already regulated, to some extent, about the endangered species and as usual it makes the idiot factor try and get it!!
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Why do we continually look back with our choice of clothing. Fur was great when we didnt have all the great fabrics we have today. Its totally unsuitable for our life style. It's not cold enough in the UK for any fur garment, it hates getting wet and look dreadful when it does get wet. So lets look forward with our clothing. We are happy to do this with our IT equipment.
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I've said it earlier but get real, FAKE = OIL. Fur is a green renewable source.
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if the whole animal is being used - sheep, rabbits etc - then no problem. i have a problem when an animal is farmed just for the fur.
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Nigella, would you skin your own mother and wear her as a coat.... I am hopeful that you would not! Bears are vegetarians themselves, they eat berries, maybe you should try some time in the Alaskan wilderness to experience the real truth about animals, and not just what appears in your everlasting fridge.
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Of course not!! Imagine the outrage if some celebrity came out with their pet wearing human skin. What makes us so much better than animals that we can SKIN them and prance around in their fur, just for the sake of the latest fashion rave? I would like the answer to that!! Fashion is one of the greatest evils of the world: look at what it has brought us: sweatshops, Photoshopping and THE FUR TRADE. It is sick.
Aside from that, when people state that we don't have a problem with leather, but no one will wear fur, I would like to point out that we don't eat foxes or seals. We eat cows. I'm not saying that's right, but if we weren't meant to eat cows, we wouldn't be able to digest them. False meat doesn't provide as much nutrients for us and our families, so real meat has a bonus, but what are the advantages of real fur? Oh, it feels nice! Good for you!
- Abbii, Isle of Wight
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I wish I had realised this was going to be on the show. It made me so angry, and I had to turn over, after hearing the comments about women looking better wearing fur, and the comment that if you ate meat then that somehow made wearing fur acceptable. Much of this fur comes from animals which are not in the British food chain...cats, dogs, etc etc.
For it to appear on The One Show like this is upsetting, and I really hope they will feature a few famous beautiful women who look wonderful without having to drape a dead animal on their bodies.
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Emily 1313; How do you know, when you buy fur, that it has not originated in China? You can't always rely on labels nowadays, as the maker may import skins from China, make the 'clothing' (yeuk) and label and sell it under his own label. If you want the gruesome butchery of animals like cats, dogs and rabbits on your conscience that's up to you. I hope you sleep well at night.
Cynthia, Cornwall
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Like Nigella, I have a mink stole that belonged to my mother. It hangs in my wardrobe but I have never worn it and wouldn't. However, my mother died in a car accident when I was 10 and, although I am now 60, it is still a reminder of a beautiful woman. I believe I should now get rid of it but I wouldn't sell it any more than I could bring myself to put it in the dustbin.
Holly, Colchester
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NOBODY, but NOBODY has the right to wear the skin of another. Anyone who thinks this is o.k. is wrong! The only place fur should be is on the animal it belings to.
Joan,
Seaford
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luciee-x unfortunately the credit crunch never hits these people I didn't see many top bankers losing their houses through the mortgage probs - a few might have had to give up 2nd homes but in general there will always be an elite that are never affected by these situations and they will continue to support this barbaric trade - Luise
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I was very angry at Nigellas attitude. By the time I had registered on the blog the show had finished. I wanted the presenters to ask Nigella to defend skinning cats and dogs live. What an insensitive woman!!!!!!!
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Nigella Lawson should lose weight and stop eating so much disgusting and heart-clogging food, such as goose fat, and clotted cream.
BBC, please set an example and stop putting these toffs on TV as an example of preparing healthy food or an example of a good decent human-being.
Nigella doesn't need the money - and I find her extremely naive and arrogant.
Get some decent healthy food shows on TV. Try a vegetarian/vegan show?
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To deprive any animal of its life for the purpose of adornment is obscene. The barbaric practices carried out in the name of fashionwear is no longer acceptable in our age.
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The difference between wearing fur and wearing leather coats is the the ANIMALS ARE ALIVE WHEN THEY ARE BEING SKINNED!!!!!! Until you watch it on the peta website you have no right to even comment on it!!!!! WATCH IT and then decide! EVERYONE that wears fur should be MADE to watch it, it is the most horrendous, harrowing thing I have EVER seen. All you fashion losers are welcome to wear fur if it is killed humainly but when a living creature has to go through pain and suffering like that, it is TOTALLY barbaric and wrong!
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KentooHolly - if you want rid of your mothers stole, then bury it and release it soul/souls.
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No, not these days. Why would anyone in their right minds pay hundreds of pounds for a second hand coat. Plus the fur looks better on the original owner.
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The use of fur is disgusting the animals are treated so poorly, and then skinned alive. I think that anyone who buys fur should think about whether they would like that to happen to their pets. Some people are just small minded and dont think about where the fur comes from. People feel pain too just think how much it would hurt if you were skinned alive and there was nothing that you could do to stop it. I think that everyone should think a little but more where all things from animals come from.
Emma
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NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!
WE USE LEATHER AND EAT THE MEAT FROM IT.
DO WE EAT THE MEAT FROM THE CATS, DOGS AND MINK ETC FROM CHINA WHERE THE FUR COMES FROM? NO WE DONT!!!!!!!!!!!!
THESE ANIMALES ARE ALSO KEPT, SLAUTERED (ELECTICUTED/CLUBED TO DEATH), AND LIVE IN AN IN-HUMAIN WAY. ALSO THERE IS THE CLUBBING TO DEATH OF BABY SEALS IN THE NORTH/SOUTH POLES. I DONT SEE MANY COWS BEING SLAUTERD IN THIS WAY!!!!!
IT IS AN ABSERLUTE DISCRACE TO WEAR REAL FURS
IT MAKES ME SICK TO HEAR PEOPLE SUGESTING REAL FUR IS FINE AND HAVEING THE GAUL TO COMPAIR IT TO WEARING LEATHER.
PEOPLE WHO WEAR REAL FUR ARE SCUM AND DESERVE A LIFTIME OF UNHAPPINESS.
THIS SUBJECT IS VERY CLOSE TO MY HART AS I HAVE SEEN THE WAY IN WHICH THESE ANIMALES ARE TREATED.
REGARDS
KEV
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Nigella Lawson - you've really gone down in my estimation - you spoke without knowing the facts of live skinning - maybe a dumb animal's skin will suit you......
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Have you seen the brutal way these animals are killed???? Watch some videos and then make a decision.
This is not about eating meat, or that the animals are cute!!....this is about the inhumane treatment and brutality that these creatures receive just so someone can parade around feeling nice. Why does this make you feel good? These people disgust me.
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what else did anyone expect Nigella to say? She's a pampered brat who got on TV due to connections - oops usual way for the beeb. However the issue is fur so at risk of stealing the NSPCC's ideas "shall we stop it now?" Boycott magazines that advertise with the users, shops that sell any products from the designers that use fur... I already do but doubt they care they know I cannot afford most of it anyway.
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There should be a world wide ban on the sale of Fir coats. Animals are farmed in certain parts of the world under intense cruelty and we should respect that these animals should have a right to a proper life.
Ted Storrington
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i prey every night for those poor cats and dogs being skinned alive...the thought haunts me as I hug my little jack russell, how could any human being do such a thing!!! I think about the pain those creatures go through and I prey that they die quickly, my dog cries if I hug him too tightly - this must be stopped.
I go to a local market and I see real fur hair bands and such, and I really feel liking ripping them off the stall...why are some humans so stupid and insensitive.
these animals have feelings - why jurt them???
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Leather is the skin of food animals, so as long as you eat meat there is no reason not to wear it.
But I can't remember the last time I saw mink pie in the supermarket or chinchilla and chips at the takeaway.
Jethro
Cheshire
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hehe akamerrikin a worldwide ban on fir might be a little dodgy at this time of year. I appreciate your sentiments though.
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I have a dilemma about fur. My late Mother left me her Russian Squirrel fur jacket. If I wear it my 2 daughters would never speak to me again but my Mother loved it.
I would never buy a fur coat as I believe that to kill an animal just for its coat is very wrong, but what do I do with the one I have?
Also I cannot leave it to my girls as they would hate it.
Weatherwax15
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Besides the disgust of using fur, I was appalled to witness pictures of distressed animals, bloodied, on a family show, with children screaming at the TV, we should have been warned that you were about to show these images, I am sending my complaint to Watchdog. Shame on you One Show
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unfortunately continental cowboy people walk away until confronted by this - take your anger out on those who supply fur please and talk to the children and get them to campaign with you while people close their eyes nothing will happen. If everyone complains nothing will ever be seen outside of documentaries which many ordinary people don't watch or know that it will be even more traumatic. This was tame compared to the reality.
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Don't forget this trade depends on the public buying the coats / products - everyone should be made aware of the vile cruelty involved before buying - like a warning on cigarettes, each garment should state how the animals died and how many. Then the wearer can feel proud of the blood she / he has on their hands...
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Thank you One Show presenters and producers for having the courage to show the pictures of extreme cruelty which mean that fur can be produced. I found these truly horrific, as did the presenters who I believe are compassionate people, but who had to do their best to remain neutral. Sadly it is necessary however for people to see what happens to make real the horror . I feel that you might have helped people to move on.
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Please please - to anyone who thinks wearing fur is acceptable then go to the PETA website or log onto care2.com and see the truth about fur farms for yourselves. Go on - have the guts!!
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'The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the ways its animals are treated ~ Mahatma Gandhi' (1869-1948, Spiritual leader of India). Fur for fashion can never be justified – those that wear fur are extremely shallow and obviously do not have any kind of conscience. Whilst millions of animals continue to suffer on this delicate planet, perhaps those more caring and compassionate humans, who are concerned about the innocent sentient beings with whom we share this world, will be able to console themselves in knowing that “what goes round comes round”! Sadly, the odds are strongly stacked against gaining respect for all the animals in this world. We can’t save every animal on earth but we should all do our best to ensure that those animals that do come within touching distance of us have never suffered and will never suffer for the vanity of a pathetic follower of fashion. For those of you who think wearing fur is okay, visit the PETA and LYNX websites and find out the true facts of how the fur and skin is literally ripped off live animals simply to satisfy a pathetic fashion whim.
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Fur is environmentally friendly and along with leather naturally sustainable materials. In many parts of the world they are essential to human survival for heat containment. Nearly all my fur and leather which I use in winter are for the purpose of warmth in wet and windy conditions. other materials simply do not work at all well and wear out. My 1940s flying jacket packed up 5 years ago, but everything else, some from my grandparents will outlive me even with the hard use. Unfortunately those who advocate the inferior artficial materials are the ones polluting the planet for the rest of us.
Steve Bournemouth
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Steve - invest in a top of the range sailing jacket - it,ll keep you warm and last you a life time! No need to wear something from brutilised animals!
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I was not prepared for those horrific and life changing clips of the cats and dogs in China.
and cannot get those images out of my head and although I do not want to be shielded from the truth, I found their almost flipant inclusion in your programme totally shocking.
Those images were appalling and I wish their had been some sort of warning beforehand.
I feel sickened and shocked.
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It's unforgivable, even just watching the one show put me off my dinner and nearly reduced me to tears, be a grown up and have a heart, wear fake, no-one can tell the difference anyway, get over yourselves fur wearers, you're scum, put your money into something more useful like saving lives and stopping crime, do something good with your money, and just hope if you wear fur you never come across me!
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Steve Bournemouth - in response:
1. the callous way that the skin is ripped off the conscious creature is certainly not friendly 2. Mass production of anything - food, material, babies, livestock is all environmentally unfriendly 3. Everything we do has a consequence - do something negative like brutalise fellow inhabitants of this precious Earth and it affects us all. Do something positive with your life by minimising the hurt you contribute towards and it will only come back to bless you.
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I agree with the doisbgud, I was put off my dinner and it is going over and over in my head the images, I couldn't turn off quick enough, needless to say I never want to go to China!!!
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I think people who wear fur are vain, ignorant and narrow minded fools. There are currently no laws in place to regulate the fur trade. Fur is transported to one place and is sorted by colour, not by country of origin. China's fur trade industry is the biggest in the world and they skin animals alive so as not to damage the fur. As the animals fur is being ripped off it's own back it is still breathing but in so much agony it doesn't have the strength to yelp. Watch the video on PETA's website and if you still think fur is ok then you are truly heartless! The chinese will skin anything and there is no way of telling whether you are wearing fox or rabbit OR cat or dog. Some of these pets still have their collars on them when they are being treated in this inhumane way. These are people's family pets! If you wear fur take a moment to think where it might of come from and what agony that animal had to go through so you could look nice! People think that it is ok to skin an animal but not a human, animals have rights too. They cannot scream out and say "that hurts" but it doesn't mean they don't feel pain! It is a good job there are people in this world that are willing to speak out for animal rights.
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Aghhh getting more and more wound up the more I read, it isn't right but a cow is used for meat and skin, everything (at least) if you people think killing an animal to make yourself look pretty i.e your pet dog or cat then I am afraid you don't deserve an opinion!
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Quote: "Fox fur looksmuch better on me than it does' on some mangey murdering fox!" - mojoleg
Of course it does, because that's the way nature intended: for a human (the blatantly more superior species) to rip the skin away from this beautiful creature and drape it around their neck as a garment. Murdering? Well, I must say, I haven't seen any foxes locking thousands upon thousands of chickens up in tiny little sheds to make an inflated profit recently, have you?? And I apologise, on behalf of foxes, if they don't use bath salts and flowery shampoo and plaster themselves in cosmetics in order to dispose of their 'mangeyness'. Get real!
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Could you please get a cage,put a bear inside with its claws and teeth in place.
Then throw that Lawson women in and lets see if she can kill it and wear the skin as a trophy.
I'm appalled at her comments,what a stupid,stupid person.
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Put yourself in place of any animal that is killed for its skin. Shame on anyone who would consider buying such an item as they are surely as guilty as the killer.
Consider for one moment... the ability to 'reason' is what sets humans apart from the rest of the animals that inhabit this world and there is reason whatsoever to justify the killing of animals for their skin or body parts.
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Quote: "I say to the protestors, get over it and find a hobby." - bryan_1234
Get a hobby? GET A HOBBY? Would you tell vegetarians to get a hobby?? Feminists?? Muslims?? What about NSPCC volunteers??? They all stand for their morals, and what they believe is right, and you come out with that nonsense?? Who are you to stop people protesting, to stop standing up for what they believe? Shall we all just lie down and succumb to the media? I don't think so! I'm not asking you to change your opinions (unlike some of us); I'm asking you to respect other people's, and find a hobby other than abusing other people because of their beliefs.
Aside from that, what evidence do you have to suggest that these people do not have hobbies (other than a sense of individualism and what they believe is right and wrong)? None, thank you very much.
- Abbii, Isle of Wight
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WELL DONE - I am so impressed with the One Show, you guys have done an excellent job. Perhaps in a future show you can also delve into the devastating effect the fur industry has on the environment. The CO2 emissions from fur farms are excessively high and the pollution from these farms have devastating effects on the surrounding environment.
When an animal dies it degrades naturally - so to ensure a fur coat will last it is extensively treated. The fur industry pollutes the environment with highly toxic chemicals, including sulfuric acid, formaldehyde, and ammonia. A farmed-fur coat takes at least 20 times more energy to produce than a faux-fur coat, and dressing and dyeing furs is classified as high-polluting by China's National Environment Protection Bureau.
So aside from the very important fact that killing an animal for fashion is abhorrent, it is also detrimental to the environment.
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Oh darlings, listen to you all going on about dog & cat fur. Just because you have been taken in by the nice little peta people and their horrible ads.
No self respecting woman would be seen dead in that dog or cat fur stuff, it smells and is cheap.
What you really need is a luxurious mink, female pelts of course or a wonderful chunky fox with a huge collar.
Not only do i look stunning in my beautiful furs but in the recent weather we have been experiencing here in the UK, I have been snuggly warm.
I am not one of those rich celebrities, just a normal hard working woman who likes to treat herself now and then.
I have bought 'faux' in the past but it has too much shine and is horribly synthetic. With the shortage of oil on the planet and the impact of processing this oil to produce this 'ethical' alternative, REAL FUR is the only option.
Try it, you might like it, although most of you have probably never been within 10 feet of real fur.
Furry hugs to you all :)
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I think it's terrible that people can consider wearing real fur. Most of these animals are kept under stressful conditions, some are still alive when they are skinned and it's carried out in front of the other terrified animals. These animals are not part of the food chain and are soley bred to be killed. We as humans eat meat and wear leather which is a by-product of a regulated industry where animals are cared for, do have a life and are slaughtered under strict guidelines.
These needs to be stopped before it escalates into more animals being killed needlessly.
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laughingfurqueen daaaarling - you must be seriously ugly inside and out if you feel you can only look better wearing a dead animal. What a sad out of touch excuse for a human being!
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Quote: "Not only do i look stunning in my beautiful furs but in the recent weather we have been experiencing here in the UK, I have been snuggly warm." - laughingfurqueen
Oh, how wonderful! I'm sure we all feel great for your 'snuggly' feeling, especially the poor incarcerated animals that were slaughtered to make it. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU??? Is cotton not good enough for you????? Well, SORRY! This is hardly an Arctic temperament, is it? I hope someone pours a bucket of mink blood over you one day, and we'll see how much you like the other parts of the animal you so cheerfully and wannabe-upper-classedly advertise. And, of course, everyone cares about how 'stunning' you look, especially with all these creatures suffering for as long as half an hour with NO SKIN for you to look it (if you do, which is... doubtful). For every half an hour you wear that coat, you deserve a damnation of suffering. Have fun, DARLING.
- Abbii, Isle of Wight
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As a meat eater I have no objection to wearing leather or hide which comes from animals which were reared for meat.
The wearing of fur which comes from animals which are reared for no other purpose than to provide a fashion item is objectionable and at least as bad as using using animals for testing cosmetics.
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I can't believe how monumentally stupid Nigella Lawson's comments about fur were this evening. She equated wearing leather shoes and coats as a by- product of the meat we eat with wearing fur! How many cats, dogs, and foxes have you seen skinned in our supermarkets? They are killed soley for their fur and as a reasonably intelligent person, Nigella should realise this important difference. She also said she'd like to kill and skin a bear - I'd like it to be the other way around.
Mandy, Bristol.
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Oh Abibib you must be so cold in your little cotton shirt, down there on the Isle of Wight.
I love my furs, I do not ask anyone else to love them, although they appear to do so given the comments I receive when wearing them out.
I do not impose my views or opinions on anyone else and I do not profess physical harm or abuse on people who don't like fur. You have your view and I have mine and we are both entitled to them in this free society of ours.
Don't try to tell me you are talking on behalf of the animals because they can't because that is exactly why they are better off adorning my beatiful body than overpopulating our countryside.
Pass me my fox boa darling!
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I unfortunately turned the tv over at the wrong time, as I have been so upset since watching. Killing animals for fur is wrong and the abuse these poor creatures suffer should be stopped!
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Quote: "Oh Abibib you must be so cold in your little cotton shirt, down there on the Isle of Wight." - laughingfurqueen.
I would appreciate it if you got my name right, since I do not mock yours. And no, thank you, I am fine. Sorry if were are not all so susceptible to the cold as you are.
Quote #2: "Don't try to tell me you are talking on behalf of the animals because they can't because that is exactly why they are better off adorning my beatiful body than overpopulating our countryside." - laughingfurqueen
So you're saying that because animals can't talk, they deserve to be slaughtered and hung on insensitive humans' bodies?? That's a pathetic excuse. And to your 'beatiful body' comment, since I have never met you (and have no intention of doing so), I cannot judge your looks, but I imagine you are beautiful by the media standards, which assume that everyone should look like everyone else and fit a certain frame, which is an appalling attitude, and should be banned, so as to stop people starving themselves in order to look like the models in magazines.
And foxes hardly 'overpopulate' the countryside! There are more CHICKENS than there are foxes- but I suppose that's OK, since we eat them, isn't it? There are more chickens than there are humans, for that matter, and the majority are suffering in conditions that should be reserved for judgemental people and torturers.
- Abbii, Isle of Wight
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I am laughing at the comment from "laughingfurqueen". She recons that animals are better off adorning her beautiful body - freaking hilarious! She may cover her cellulite and wobbly bits with dead animals to try make herself more attractive but it not fooling anyone! Seriously, laffing so hard here I can hardly type!!! LOL!!!!
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Anyone who wears fur has blood on their hands and sponsors cruelty. So many people are ignorant or don't care about animal suffering. Would the same people who have dogs, cats or rabbits for pets and consider themselves animal lovers wear fur? Would they have their pets beaten, starved, thrown around, hooked and skinned alive? The only way to have a clear concience is to refuse to buy or wear it.
There is no need and no place in this world for cruelty. If you argue in favour of fur, watch the videos of how the animals are treated, then ask yourself again.
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It makes me so angry, ignorant people who say we eat meat, so why not wear fur.OPEN YOUR EYES TO WHATS REALLY GOING ON. For vile disgusting fashion, animals are cruelly skinned alive . Are some people just plain stupid or what? What i would like to do with people who dont give a dam about the welfare of animals i would like to.... I can barely control my anger at the moment. I just wish there would be enough campaigns for the voice of the animal. I think the people who wear fur should be put in a room and watch a video of what really happens to the poor animals who have a heart and soul and feel pain, just like we do. DISGUSTING VILE PEOPLE ONLY WEAR FUR !!!!!
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It is definitely not right to wear real furs.
It is so very different to leather or sheepskin, these are animals that are bred for meat, and it is only right that we should use all of the animal, including wearing the skins.
A wild animal is not bred for meat, and needs his skin to stay alive. It is immoral to wear fur.
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I couldn't agree more, BRUNOisBLACKANDWHITE. It's nice to know that there are people in the world who do care. God bless, x x x.
- Abbii, Isle of Wight
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I am so pleased to see that the majority of people feel that the fur trade is evil, can anyone in their right mind wear a skin of something other than their own? I do not believe that wearing anything that comes from the suffering of another animal has any justification.Yes I wear leather, but the leather comes from an animal which has fed me and my family. I would no more wear the skin of my 2 dogs, who I love dearly, than wear Leopard, Civet of Artic Fox!
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Oh how nice, a love in for the anti's!
Off to snuggle up under my gorgeous silver fox fur duvet. made with over 40 pelts.
Sumptuous, warm and eco friendly.
Care to join me Abbii, you sound such a cold person xxxx
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Quote: They are better off adorning my beautiful body than over populating the countryside.
Congratulations Laughingfurqueen you have successfully just made yourself into a laughing stock by your uneducated, vain and shallow little remarks.
IF you're female - you're a real embarrassment to the majority of us!
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Yes I'm glad that so many are against the fur trade as well but that doesn't stop the trade. Laughingfurqueen is pathetic but has succeeded in winding everyone up. He/ she doesn't deserve any attention, apart from maybe psychiatric help!
To help to put an end to this vile trade, please support and encourage all who care to support PETA or Animals Asia Foundation who are actively doing something about it. Join in all campaigns, write to your MP's and above all, don't let those who are pro fur ever win. Those who care are the richest, those who don't are very sad.
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Dickerdawe - you're so right! Care2.com is an excellent site to campaign on too and I urge everyone who cares to take a look at it.
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It is never right to wear real fur. We no longer live in caves we do not need to wear fur for any practical reason. Only these self-obsessed fashion peacocks concerned with their appearance could ignore the exposed facts regarding the unbearably cruel way that real fur is obtained.
There is no comparison with leather and suede which are by-products of the meat trade. Anyone who thinks there is no difference can not have seen the vile and unspeakable treatment of cats and dogs in China or if the are not moved by this they must be sick.
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I am disappointed by the way the one show dealt with the issue of dogs, cats and rabbits being skinned alive - cos the pelt is cleaner and easier to remove in one peice from a live animal .......... they skimmed over this abhorrent practice then proceeded to discuss which jackets looked best - this is not the issue guys - you shouldn't even be thinking in terms of which looks best - that choice just should not be there...... can you imagine the pain of having your whole skin removed - ripped from your body - all your nerve endings screaming - the cold and the shock of it flooding your body till your kidneys fail and your heart beats itself into a heart attack .......... its depravity - totally disgusting.......
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How people could wear fur is beside me, what these poor Animals suffer is beyond belief
Skinned alive and killed in barbaric ways don’t they have any compassion.
Cats boiled alive dogs beaten over the heads some still very much alive’ before skinned, Arctic foxes live in filthy tiny cadges till the day they are electrocuted with probes put in side of there rectum and the other end in there mouths then switched on; how wicked people can be to defenceless Animals Wouldn’t it be nice if we could just put these people who wear the fur?
In the animals place. I wonder if then they would see the light! ‘Try looking at you tube the fur trade*and china one of the worse.
Sue Devon
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Hey jollyvaliant - we're bigger than that! These ignorant people need urgent education and need hauled into reality!It makes me angry too how flippant these dreadful self obsessed people are!
Keep going everyone - we'll stop them in the end! Our trade with China must stop - thet're so destructive. Think tigers!!
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The people who are happy to wear such items should be happy to watch how these poor animals are treated and slaughtered. Would they happily watch their own pet dogs and cats skinned alive? The comparison to wearing leather is a complete nonsense - we have laws in the European community that ensure humane slaughter. Unfortunately people with lower intelligence cannot see beyond their own vanity.
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If we don't protect animals from this type of brutality, we become accomplices.
Please sign and forward to all your contacts - this has to be stopped!!!
With a hidden camera, animals were filmed being SKINNED ALIVE!!! They say it's done to get a more perfect ''cut''; afterwards the carcasses are tossed into a pile, still alive, and for up to 10 minutes you can see their hearts still beating, in agony, their eyes still blinking, and the puppies' little paws still shaking. There was one pup, that still lifted his head and gazed at the camera with bloodied eyes.
If you don't care to see the video, please sign and forward to your friends, this monstrosity has to be stopped, we have to act!!
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/990436217
Still want to wear real fur?
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I always watch The One Show, But as an animal lover, I was disgusted last night, that no mention was made that you were going to show those awful pictures of animals being mistreated, due to the fur trade. I was lucky enough to be near the television on/off button.
Pauline - Norfolk
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When you feel the need to look glamourous,buy diamonds,drive expensive cars,spend loads of money on whatever you want but stay away from products like fur,based on animal cruelty.
There are a lot of materials to make a warm coat,you don't need fur to keep you warm.
The animals bred or trapped for their fur are not used for meat as well.Do you eat mink,wolf,fox ???
It is not because some fashion designers use fur that you have to wear it.Make up your own mind and wear animal friendly clothes.
People can live without meat,leather,fur.
Being vegetarian is even better for the environment.Never heard of the effect of producing meat on global warming ?
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It is hard to make a decision about fur until you are aware of all the facts. I've noticed one common misconception in this thread - fur is NOT a byproduct of the meat industry, unlike leather and sheepskin. You could never safely eat animals produced for fur - they are reared in such disgusting conditions that their meat is inedible. Therefore it is UTTERLY different to eating ethically produced meat. China is the world's biggest producer of fur - read Care for the Wild's report on fur production and trade in China on the Care for the Wild website.
(Warning - shocking animal cruelty footage)
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It is hard to make a decision about fur until you are aware of all the facts. I've noticed one common misconception in this thread - fur is not a byproduct of the meat industry, unlike leather and sheepskin. You could never safely eat animals produced for fur - they are reared in such disgusting conditions that their meat is inedible. Therefore it is utterly different to eating ethically produced meat. China is the world's biggest producer of fur - read Care for the Wild's report on fur production and trade in China for the facts.
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I think it's is horrible that people can go round wearing animal fur, I am sure I'm not the only one who would like to keep their skin on their body and if you can kill animals for their coats you might as well kill humans too.
If you can make fake fur without harming anyone then people should wear that not real fur.
The way they treat animals just to take their fur is stupid and cruel. So I say that real fur should not be allowed in England, China or anywhere else in the world.
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I think it's is horrible that people can go round wearing animal fur, I am sure I'm not the only one who would like to keep their skin on their body and if you can kill animals for their coats you might as well kill humans too.
If you can make fake fur without harming anyone then people should wear that not real fur.
The way they treat animals just to take their fur is stupid and cruel. So I say that real fur should not be allowed in England, China or anywhere else in the world
Kav- Warrington
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I am totally opposed to the promotion of real fur clothes and accessories. For any animal to die for the sake of fashion, when in a modern world we can keep warm by using synthetic materials or by products of the food chain, to me is totally unacceptable. People who go on about us living in caves and wearing animal skins in the past seem to forget that they now pop down to their shops in cars etc to get their food and can go back to their heated homes. If they want to wear fur, go and live in an unheated cabin near the north pole in a climate and conditions where you have to hunt and kill to survive.
We, in this country, do not need to wear the skins of endangered wild animals, or factory farmed dogs and cats etc to stay warm.
Barbara, Lancashire
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Hello Christine & Adrian,
I have read many of the currently 174 messages on this subject and have been heartened to see how many find the whole thing repulsive. There is life after all!
The question of wearing fur is to do with pleasure and personal gratification. What are we doing? Pleasure in itself is natural and good but we pursue it in so many selfish and destructive ways! It would form an interesting field for your team to research and go into! To have pleasure without hurting or harming oneself or other beings,human or animal!
Congratulations on the dancing by the way Christine.I think you were very brave but clearly not always comfortable!
Best wishes to the BBC and your team for Xmas.
Zarahn
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I am 65 years old and when I left school I served a 5 year apprenticeship in the fur trade. I am a qualified fur finisher and liner. On many occasions I sewed what are now endangered animals. E.G. otter,beaver,fur seal,ocelot,even on one occasion a tiger skin rug. Times and thoughts have changed sins those days,but I still think farmed animals like ranch mink etc.should be allowed. Having worked on many a mink coat,I can still say they are so beautiful I for one,if it were not for the outcome , would love a mink coat. There are still some about and I love to see them. No doubt I'll be shot at dawn for saying this,but I don't hear all the non-fur people complaining about their leather shoes or handbags et.
cows and sheep are animals just the same as the others. Needless to say I am no longer in the fur trade . Helen. Carlisle.
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The fur trade is unnecessary and very cruel. How even the hardest person could not be moved by the despicable cruelty, particularly in china, is beyond me.
With regards to leather, if you are going to kill the cow for food, then it is a waste not to use what's left for leather.
Skinning an animal alive so some vain idiot can show off a new coat or hat is despicable.
I shall certainly not be buying any Nigella products after watching lastnight's show and I hope others follow suit.
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The selling of fur should be banned, I can't believe that this question is even up for debate. To call ourselves a nation of animal lovers and then wear fur is a joke.
The cruelty and awful deaths that these animals have to endure in the name of fashion and vanity is an outrage. There is nothing wrong with wearing faux fur.
I found yesterdays programme quite harrowing and was in tears most of last night and the images you showed of those animals in that farm will stay with me forever.
And the argument that because we eat meat we can wear fur is riduclous. Yes I do wear leather but I also eat beef. I do not eat fox, mink, dog or cat , well not that I'm aware of anyway ;-)
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It is amazing that after all our years of evolution man still uses other animals for food and for clothing, and even kill them just for amusement! Other species share our planet and are evolving (unlike man which, we are told, has completed its evolution). I suspect that those other creatures will evolve beyond us. Let's face it, it is not a hard battle to win.
Mankind, by this time, should no longer be using other animals. We have plenty of other food to eat and fabrics to wear. We do not need to extinguish the lives of others in order to use them. Those who hunt and those, like Nig Lawson, who wear fur are still savages. They are shallow, vile and disgusting.
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I was shocked to see animals that were destined for slaughter being kicked and no prior warning issued it was being broadcast. I has played on my mind, a show that is entertainment and usually light hearted should have warned us. I am not a veggie and keep chickens so I do now about killing but I dont want it in my face at 7.00 7.30. Children must have seen it as well the One Show is a family program.
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I watched the programme last night and was furious at the ridiculous arguments in favour of wearing fur.
People were saying that it was exactly the same as wearing leather.
IT IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT!
When a cow is killed the meat is eaten and the hide is used for leather.
I have never heard of people eating minks, foxes, leopards etc.
These animals are killed purely for the vanity of evil people and only the skin is used.
The best comment I ever heard was that 'FUR IS WORN BY BEAUTIFUL ANIMALS AND UGLY PEOPLE'.
Susan Eite
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I find it hard to believe your guest making the remark about 'if she was in Alaska she would kill animals for their fur'!
I wonder if she has been there and seen for herself how few wild animals are actually around now, after such people as her have been out and shot them for fun...
Maybe she should stick to cooking...rather than sounding like a failed Vice Presidential
candidate...
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NO WAY should fur be used for "so called fashion"..... it's the 21st century & there are plenty of alternatives......as for your "guest" she has gone way down in my esteam after hearing some of her comments
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wearing fur is not the same as wearing leather. it's like the diffence between killing soldiers and killing civilians. cattle are killed, hopefully, most of the time, in a humane and controlled manner and are domesticated so it is less stressfull for them, all parts are used and it only makes sense to use the skin if you're going to eat the meat. killing wild cats, bears, foxes and other wild animals is something completely different. they are often beaten to death or just skinned alive, can you imagine the amount of pain and sufferering, they have nervous systems just like we do, just because they can't tell us in English doesn't mean they don't feel it. unfortunately these 'designer' labels make their coats in europe or america, but they buy the material cheap from the chinese, where there is absolutely no control and the people who do the actual skinning have no feelings at all. there is no excuse and no justification for wearing fur and people who create a market for it are without conscience.
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I was appalled at the people who felt no guilt in the wearing of fur, (as a fashion item).
As a species we have always been omnivores and as such we eat meat as well as vegetables. We must, of course give a good quality of life and a compassionate death to those animals that we eat - and use as much of that animal as possible so we can justify its death. Therefore the use of leather and sheepskin is acceptable - even a requirement.
The alternative to being an omnivore is being a vegan - not a vegetarian. Unwanted, male baby animals that cannot be milked or produce more babies are not returned to the wild or sent to a rest home.
Killing animals for the kudos of wearing its (expensive) fur is unacceptable and should be prohibited by law. Have the people who buy animal furs never heard of China?
How do they live with themselves?
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Wearing fur is NOT the same thing as eating meat. I do neither, as I am a vegetarian. However I don't have a problem with people eating/wearing animals if they are humanely reared and slaughtered in the process. Unfortunately this is far from the case. Fur is only a fashion item, most of it comes from China, where dogs and cats are SKINNED ALIVE and left to die in agony. Does it make you feel good wearing fur, knowing where it has come from? Please see the website for www.peta.org.uk, which shows videos of these horrific practices. This is completely unethical, humans have no right to treat animals like this. The sort of people who do have no compassion for their fellow humans either.
(After all, does China have a great record for human rights?!! I rest my case).
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Great to see a mostly anti fur from most (apart from a few bloggers, including Nigella) on the forum.
How can the hardest pro fur/fashion lover watch a PETA video and still not codem this cruel culling of innocent creatures?
Carry on the good work 'One Show', please help to campaighn and keep people aware of what going on in china for the sake of vanity.
Global warming is here, we dont need fur!
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Forgot to add, looks like hopefully a few less people will be buying Nigelas ook book as a Christmas prezzie this year.
I was never that keen on her, but thought she cooking tip's were quite good, but last night realy confirmed what kind of a person she really is!
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Fake fur is derived from man made materials which are oil based. When the oil runs out,10,000 years time say,it will be impossible to make fake fur!!
Real fur will go on for ever as long as the animal species survives
Thus, fake fur is the luxury for a temporary
period in the evolution of mankind.
Real fur is eternal.
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it has been 24 hours since i watched your section on wearing fur or not.i was and still have the images of those poor animals in the cages waiting for those so called men to kill them for fur i thought you could have told us it was going to be showed.iwatch you programme every night but was so distressed jan
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"Not only do i look stunning in my beautiful furs but in the recent weather we have been experiencing here in the UK, I have been snuggly warm.
I am not one of those rich celebrities, just a normal hard working woman who likes to treat herself now and then."
Stunning? Only in your own mind, probably. You may think you look stunning, but you are UGLY on the inside.
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Once upon a time, somewhere in a far off land, it is alleged there was once a tiny little word, - civilized. Now, however hard I try to find it, I cannot.
Roberta, Malaga.
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I was shocked and I did cry after seeing the terrified eyes of all the animals. How can mankind do this to those animals? We have the intelligence to be the gardians of this planet, but we are not. I never realised they skinned dogs, one dog on the film showed looked like my pet dog which upset me further. I can not get that image out of my head now. I agree with animal rights activists and will now look to be showing my support for them in light of the film shown. I am also a member of compasion in world farming, which I am proud of.
I think Mankind is disgusting, Im ashamed to be a human being. We are all parasites on this planet, we dont see animals treat each other in this way. As for the chinese, and the laws out there, they have hardly any human rights for one and other. Bird flu originated out there because if the inhumane way they treat their fowl. They eat everything that moves and show no respect. Im surprised they dont legalise cannibalism, skin eachother alive after all, look what they do to their baby girls! The fur trade should be banned. Fashionable it is not, they just make themselves look like modern day Flint Stones. I would rather wear human skins than animals. There are a few politician heads I would love stuffed and mounted on my wall.
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Responding to your feature on fur. People are comparing leather as being the same as fur. I was always under the impression that leather was taken from humanly slaughtered animals that were used for their meat. Where as most fur is taken from animals often skinned alive and only used for their fur. Please can the One Show enlighten us with some more facts so people can be educated more.
I was horrified at the pictures from China and feel these countries need to be bought to task for their actions. There is outrage at the way the Japannese hunt the dolphins and it is outragous what mankind does to wear fur. The people that wear real fur are vain and selfish. They want to appear to look good, but if they had a conscience and a personality they would be far more attractive to the outside world.
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I was extremely disappointed in The One Show's rather "one sided" and dare I say "pro-fur" feature. Not once did I feel that The One Show had provided a fare argument, and there was certainly the distinct absence of any strong debate. Instead I found myself, a very well educated and intelligent woman, being made to feel hypocritical for eating meat but being totally against the wearing of fur. My mistake, for I never realised that farm animals were often beaten, clubbed to the point of near death before being skinned alive to produce meat in this country!! I found the One Show's feature rushed, amateur, biased and therefore irrelevant.
The fur trade is cruel, but i'm afraid and rather saddened that your show failed to portray this in favour of immoral, brain dead, fashion victims who fail to realise that wearing fur not only looks "cheap", but puts atleast 30 years on you.
This is the twenty-first century, for God's sake why are we going backwards and not forwards?
Marie, Wirral
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Since when have people become so stupid????
This segment on the One Show made me so angry, with the pompous so-called "Fashion" designers who are so pro-fur! Of course they are, they're making shed loads of money from stupid women who buy it and don't care where it comes from! I, like the lady above me, am an educated woman, and I too felt hypocritical when they started talking about wearing leather being the same as wearing fur - ITS NOT!
Oh sorry, I am mistaken - in Britain we very regularly sit down to mink, dog and cat dinners don't we ? ? ?
I wish people would start thinking before producing such one-sided trash as this feature - I, personally, am a vegetarian but I am not so narrow-minded as to think everyone should be - it's your own choice - However, I do agree with wearing leather, if you wish to, because, other wise it would go to waste... Not the same with mink, cats, dogs etc. We, in this country, do not regularly eat meat like this, so why would you think it fine just to breed something, beat it to death, electrocute it or the like, whilst it's still breathing and rip it's pelt off???
Just for a second - think about how hideous that must feel - but thats the problem - No conscience. If you sit and think about it, just for a second, you will understand. Hideous practice, hideous looking clothes...
But, of course, we are living in a world where it is fine to test everyday cosmetics, toiletries and household cleaners on innocent animals just for profit. Why should fur be any different?
And why was the representative from PETA given a few seconds of the entire feature...
To reiterate, why are we going backwards???????? Women are being degraded, fur is coming back... Why don't we withdraw the vote for women and close down the internet... Seems fitting...
Of course, i'm sorry, it's fashion and that seems to rule now... Silly me...
Sarah, Tamworth
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In reply to a comment yesterday from JOEMMO she is exactly right in what she said. I could not believe it, just sat down to our tea and that awfull clip came on showing all those cats and dogs being kicked and abused it was just horific and at that early time of night when my kids were watching without any warning from the presenters about the content of it all. If someone is out there filming these dreadful atrosaties then why doesent the One Show report that something is going to be done to stop all the killing??? it has to stop. We have four cats and a little dog at home who are our friends and are treated like one of our family. We are not going to watch this programme anymore until we hear some better news at tea time.
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Until recently I did not understand about the horrors and torture that animals suffer (including cats and dogs), such as being skinned alive, to supply fur to the Western fashion industry. I too didn't think there was much of an issue about the pleasures of people wearing fur! I thought we eat meat, might as well wear the skin. My views changed radically once I stumbled across an animal welfare website which set out some of the truly grim realities of the fur business.
Most fur supplied for our fashion industry comes from countries without animal welfare legislation. The suffering that the animals killed have to endure is truly heartbreaking. I continue to be haunted by some of the images I saw.
So long as we demand fur, these animals will continue to suffer these horrendous fates. Perhaps the reality of this trade is not widely understood and awareness should be raised in a big way.
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Glad the majority of people have a heart.
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I have just been on the PETA website.
Please see my comments number 199.
Most of you seem to be as outraged and upset as I am.
Go on the web site and donate if you can, it's very easy to do. PETA are working to stop this cruelty and others similar and hopefully our funds will help them to achieve this.
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Well, I dont have a problem with people wearing fur if it was their grandmothers and passed down. I do however have a problem with people clubbing baby seals to death just for the purpose of looking good, or chasing down a fox and making its last moments of life terrifying, or any other animal for that matter.
If fur (like leather) is the bi-product of a COMMONLY used meat product, I wouldnt have a problem with it, so I believe that if you eat a lot of rabbit, then you can wear rabbit fur, but since you dont eat baby seal or fox, dont wear their fur!
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For goodness sake people - get real. Stop and think for a minute. Do you REALLY think animals are tortured and skinned alive for the fur trade? Why? because you have seen it on a propagandar video produced by self interest groups who have hidden agendas, and make $MILLIONS fron gullible people like you that believe them?
There are plenty of internet sites telling the REAL srory, agendas, and actions of PETA. please read them before you part with your hard earned money, cos they certainly wont use it to further animal welfare.
They dont disclose their sources, and yet there is a wealth of information out there from reliable sources that are verifiable. Think for yourself for a change, and do some REAL research.
For the record. Dog and cat fur is not desireable fur in the fur trade. the huge majority of fur comes form strictly controlled fur farms in the west. China imports these pelts and then exports them again as garments. Fur of China origin represents the minority of fur in the West.
It's easy to find barbaric cowboy methods in any industry, including ALL of the rest of the clothing industry. You don't close down a whole industry because of the illegal actions of a few.
China Does have stict animal welfare regulations. The people on these sick videos were breaking the law.
No animal including humans is isolated. Every animal within nature uses every other animal in some way or another. Nature is neutral. There is no shame in that. There is no cruelty in that, it just is. If you dont believe this then you just havent understood the precious natural world and the lives of the animals you are trying to save.
To criticise fur wearers as rich, toff, dumb vain, or whatever is just dumb. the huge majority of fur wearers are ordimary people like you and me. They are certainly not flaunting their wealth, but have paid more for a luxury well made garment. Is the politics of envy creeping in here perhaps? It perhaps says more about the weakmess of your arguments that you have to resort to playground name calling to further your cause.
Many animals are pests which do huge damage to the environment. The New Zealand Possum for example. It HAS to be controlled. It also has a beautifully warm and practical fur. It's not killed for its fur, but if the fur wasnt used it would just go to waste. the animal would be killed anyway. Is it OK to wear possum fur then? Woul dyou advocate just letting a valuable natural resource rot away into the ground?
The environmental impact of the fur trade is minute compared to the hideous environmental impact of the cotton trade. (or the oil industry for synthetics) Why arent you up in arms over that? Don't believe me? Take a look at one of the worst man made environmental disasters of all time, the Arral Sea - look it up. A toxic puddle caused by the cotton industry
This could go on for ever. There are FACTS out there, not the propaganda lies of the animal rights crowd. look them up. and think for youself instead of being led by the nose all your life
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I would like to know on what authority midnightdoug speaks - ????????? If you are informed on the subject please tell how.
By the way I dont think you can criticise for playground name calling when you do it yourself.
And I think its important to understand the emotion which this subject results in. Some people react in this way because they have been so upset and angered by the information they have that they cant help but react. It would be the same if a child was cruelly treated.
Sorry - I cant agree with your arguement
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There is no excuse or reason to wear fur or leather. The alternatives are out there. To support any industry in fur or leather, whether its your coat, furniture, leather belt, handbag or purse allows society to 'think' we approve. In reality if we watched the slaughter process of these items being manufactured such as the skining alive a dog, cat, mink, or fox or the slaughterhouses where cows and pigs are barbarically treated without any compassion would we still feel the same way. I believe if you want to design or wear such items spend a day in a fur farm or slaughterhouse where there are no animal rights and then propose a 'good' reason why you should still design or wear the coat or skin of another living being. Society on a whole does not approve as with other sectors of animal 'production' it is the 'financial' status not the 'moral' status that these people wish to be noticed for. Shame on them to put wealth before wellbeing.
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Does midnightdoug work for the fur trade by any chance??????
He suggests China has strict animal welfare regulations. They don't even have proper Human rights, let alone animal welfare.
The other environmental issues mentioned may also be of importance but they are not up for discussion and this point, we are currently discussing the fur trade.
The envy remark is ridiculous, not all wealthy people buy fur. I have never found the need to wear an animal that was slaughtered purely for vanity to flaunt my wealth. Money can be enjoyed in a far more humane way.
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A few points to be made to those who think it is fine to wear fur
1. To keep warm, the Innuit wear their fur with the skin on the outside, not on the inside as is done with fashion/status statement fur. They also eat and make use of the whole animal. That is natural, that is survival.
2. If no modern products were as effective as fur, mountain climbers, rescuers, explorers etc etc would wear fur, they do not.
3. There is the world of difference between leather, the by-product of the food we acquire from domestic species raised and slaughtered humanely, and furs which come from the trapping by snare or gin trap, of endangered species, a grotesque method which also leads the the unnecessary suffering and death of what are referred to as 'trash' animals as snares and gin traps do not discriminate.
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I wear leather which is a byproduct of animals killed for food, cow's pig's sheep ect. however, I object to animals killed in an inhumane way just for fur, these animals suffer horrific deaths so that their hides remain intact, all this cruelty so rich ladies can wear a coat, that looks beautiful on the animal, and doesn't look half as good on them, if these ladies were forced to be presant at the death of the animal, the fur trade would collapse overnight, because I don't think they would have the stomach for it. Vi, Northumberland.
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I wonder if we would support wearing fur if we looked at it from the animals point of view. If you were reincarnated as a dog in China where you would actually be skinned alive, would fur get your support then if it was happening to you? or perhaps you prefer anal electrocution? being clubbed to death? being kept on a fur farm in a cage driven insane with boredom so that you'd self mutilate exposing your bare bones and receiving no veterinary treatment, maybe being caught in a barbaric trap sounds better? Its animal abuse on a massive scale.
and to Jonathon in Exeter who said:
"If fur is produced in a manner that is acceptible then there should be some mechanism by which tracabilty can be ensured. We manage it with meat, why not fur?" We all wear leather after all!
We dont ALL wear leather Jonathon and we don't manage it with meat either. Have you not searched the internet? or have you not seen any of the many exposures on television? There has certainly been plenty. It's time some people stopoed looking the other way.
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Midnightdoug
Propaganda? Yes, I can recognise propaganda when I hear it. You should check out the RSPCA website because even they have evidence about fur. Are they being gullible too? I think not. Get real yourself and do your own research because boy you need to!
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FUR IS MURDER!
I like ferrets, that doesnt mean i want to kill one just for the sake of looking good!
Or How about a nice Rat hat!?
or some gloves made out of dogs ears?
and to go with that, how about a nice pair of rabbit boots?!
that's horried!
(leather is different to fur, leather is made from a by product - which is left over from a cows carcus,
the cow has been bred for the food industry, giving us beef,.. so it was going to die anyway.
mink, ferrets, rats and other small animals are not bred for that perperse.
so fur is murder! - un-lawful killings just to look good! pah!
I surgest all you FUR lovers watch the videos on this site,
this is how they make ur clothes..
there are lots of videos, i surgest you click,
my mother kills animals!
http://www.petatv.com/skins.html
it'll make you wish you'd never ever touched a fur coat!
(the link goes to the main website of PETA TV..
(For people who love animals, dont click it.. it'll make you feel sick) :/
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I watch The One Show every evening and was very distressed about the one regarding Fur.
I was absolutely livid to see the cruelty shown in china. I do not agree that women or men need to wear fur, there are plenty of other fabrics/materials available to keep us warm.
CRUELTY TO ANIMALS FOR HUMAN VANITY IS ABHORRENT AND SHOULD BE STOPPED FOR EVER.
I feel very strongly about this and hope that some comments are made on your show with reference to the disgusting and very unnecessary trade in pain and suffering to animals.
Pamela
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Im all for following fashion trends,but,
killing innocent animals for pure vanity, to wear their furs for a fashion tend, that surves no other purpose than this is beyond wrong, it is SICK!. We dont need furs to keep us warm, we have 100's, 1000's of ETHICAL materials we already use for our clothing that are perfectly fine.
They violently slaughter beautiful healthy innocent animals in excruciating ways, and basicly they only half kill them, and then skin them alive while the animals are still squeeling. THIS IS WRONG.
What is NOT wrong is the necessary use of animals skins-as used by Inuits. The difference is they humainly kill the animals for their own survival. They use EVERYTHING on that animal, and ONLY kill when necessary.
-they use the skin for clothes, meat for food, bones to make ornaments and tools, etc. This is survival and necessary because that is their only resources, so they need to hunt to survive.
We dont need a lynx's fur, or a chinchilla's fur to survie, we kill them for vanity.
some people may say well what about killing cattle? well we use them, they are OUR source of food, and necessary to our survival. We also use their meat for food, skins for clothes, tripe for dog food, etc.
so again anything that can be used, IS used.
Beautiful animals endangered or not, shouldn't be violently slaughtered for our vanity. Modern technology has produced identical patterns of animals, and textures that are FAUX, but are so realistic to the touch, and to look at, that when put side by side with a real fur coat it would be near impossible to tell them apart.
FAUX FUR gives the oppertunity to wear patterns of fur, but without the guilt,shame and disgust you will have upon society, if you wear real fur.
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Yes it's very heartening to realise how many people feel the same and although The One Show has upset a few people, it has enlightened many and I hope all who are sickened by the fur trade will oppose it by campaigning against it. I personally am continually disgusted and distressed by what humans do to animals. It must be stopped.
Incidentally, not all leather, or wool for that matter, is humanely produced. Animal welfare standards are poor in many countries not just China and many animal products come from these countries. The only way to be sure you don't contribute to any animal suffering is to not wear or eat ANY animal products.
Check out PETA 's website to find an alternative way.
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No we should not wear fur. It seems unbelievable that animals are killed just so that someone can wear their fur to look and feel "beautiful". No one can match the beauty of the animal it rightly belongs to.
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I don't agree with anyone wearing fur. It is an inhuman act. I react quite strongly to anyone I see in fur regardless of who they are.
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Christmas tree's. Real or fake fir? Discuss.
Roberta, Malaga.
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One of the worst cases of wearing fur is The use of bear skin and fur for the busby hats of the guards .I believe they need to kill a bear to make just one hat. This is disgusting just and The Royal Family approve of this so what a poor example they are setting. These stupid ignorant awful people who wear fur are a disgrace to any civilised nation and I would support any type of action taken against these morons. ROY NORTH WALES.
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What will we wear when the animials have all gone? Come on world, wake up - can we afford to kill everything we see just because we can! Leave the coats on the animals and simply allow us the pleasure of looking at them for the beauty they portray.
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I'm perfectly happy with fur if I believed it is obtained in a humane way. It is very
sad that animals are killed so cruelly in China (i'm not concerned about whether they are cats
and dogs, that is just the cute/pet factor kicking in, I'm concerned about their treatment), but why the connection with high street fur in western countries. Are the loons here seriously suggesting that if I went and bought a £1500 mink coat for my girlfriend that it would actually turn out to be made of cat? I think the ravers should be lobbying the target markets of the chinese fur trade rather than fur itself.
Fur is a superior, greener material to plastic petrochemical derived faux fur - it is natural, warmer and far softer to the touch. What really grates is the way that chickens in battery farms are kept in *horrendous* conditions yet far, far less fuss is made. How is eating something that will feed you for a day LESS wasteful than wearing a garment that could last you a lifetime? I see no moral distinction between eating and wearing animals - it's a 100% natural thing we've all been doing for hundreds of thousands of years. I think it's the children of the 20th/21st centuries living in the matrix-like world of post industrialisation and wearing plastic coats that have the warped perspective.
To sum up: Eat animals, wear animals, kill them humanely.
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Is it ever right to wear real fur? No.
There are alternatives now.
No creature should be killed just so that people can strut about wearing it or displaying it as a fashion accessory.
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Yes it is right to wear fur as long as the fur is utilitarian, is obtained humanely, from farmed animals, and not taken from the wild.
Fur is much warmer than faux fur in colder areas of the world.
Fur is eco-friendly.
Fur feels nice.
We are becoming a world of uninformed and easily offended wimps, who don't think for themselves.
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I saw a documentary on tv which took place in China, a man was raising puppies in his own home, for skin and meat, he took one of them into his back yard, as it had become mature enough for killing, I cannot tell you how that poor animal died, as it may make most people sick, but the dogs hide was intact, and also was removed before the animal died, the dog lay in that back yard a long time with internal injuries, and without his skin, what a sorry world we live in. I am a meat eater, but I draw the line at cruelty, and killing just for fur, Vi.
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By saying that she would wear fur, Nigella Lawson shows her ignorance of how the fur
is produced. Leather and sheepskin are by-products of the meat industry which is controlled. However, the fur industry uses fur from the Far East from dogs who have been squashed together into tiny cages under very cruel conditions and are then skinned alive. Would she like to see her children's pets treated in this way and then wear the result? Also, in order to produce one mink coat it takes a lot of animals who have also been kept in small cages for their lifetime. This is now outlawed in this country but obviously continues in others.
If no-one wore fur, this barbaric cruelty would eventually cease because it would not be profitable.
Barbara,
Fareham
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When you can see at 1st hand the way the animals are killed for their fur.I think it would answer itself.
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I totally agree with comment number 12, there is no reason for people to wear real fur and it sickens me to think that people think it's ok to do so.
People should see the suffering of the animals, it's disgusting.
We should put an end to it!!
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Fur should be left on the animal it was intended for not some vain ignorant human being, to kill an animal purely for its fur is sick and that goes for the people who think its acceptable, I bet they wouldn't like to be skinned alive like some animals are would they !
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What right do you fur wearers have to allow skinning of live animals? Go to animalsaviours.org and watch the horror that you create.
Fashion designers...Shame on you. Some people believe that designers are overrated, overpaid and generally dumb. I don't agree, apart from those who perpetuate the cruel fur trade through their fashion designs. wake up!
Anna, Herts
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If we lived as Eskimos, ancient Scots, Scandinavians, or Russians - then clearly fur would be a necessity, albeit still a cruel one.
If we feel the need to lord it over others by wearing the skins of 50 caged Mink, skinned alive, just to show off how many £1,000's we can afford to fritter, frankly, I give up, and I'm glad I am too poor to breathe the same air as such people - and I pity their next life.
As a man sow, so shall he reap - do unto others as you would (will) have them do unto you - for every action, there is an equal and opposite re-action.
These are universal laws, and all the money in the world will not save us from them. Meat is murder - it's bad enough to kill animals to eat, let alone just to pose. Plants don't bleed red blood or scream and writhe when killed - nor do they have eyes, ears, nose, genitalia etc as we do - plants do have consciousness, but it is covered and they are the God-given food for mankind, as stated by Moses in Genesis:
"Lo, I give you the herb bearing seed [grains], and the tree bearing fruit, and this shall be yours for meat [Gk. "brome", Eng. "food"]
"But the flesh [Gk. "kreas", Eng. "meat"] with the blood thereof, and the life thereof, shall *not* be yours to eat.
"And at the hands of those who require such foods, I shall require their blood,
"Nay, I shall require the blood of all living creatures"
"Butter and honey shall he eat, that he shall know to refuse the evil, and accept that which is good" Isiaiah, referring to Lord Jesus, the future avatara
"He that killeth an ox, is as if he slew a man." Isiaiah 66.3
(Please note that paying a killer (butcher, slaughterer, supermarket, burger bar) to kill on your behalf has always been accessory to murder under law, both human and cosmic.) The law "Do Not Kill" does not apply only to Jews & Christians, neither does it extend only to human beings; still, it's a tall order to wish for a humane, vegetarian society when we can't even keep from genocide over oil, race, dollars & domination.
Blessed are the peacemakers - and pity those who kill for food, sport, profit or fashion - they should observe their quarry carefully, for this will be their fate after death.
|| sri harih: om tat sat ||
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I think iti is hypocritical to attack wearing fur coats if you own a leather wallet or handbag. If animals are bred for it we should use all the animal and pick and choose. Tha comment about eskimos is particularly relevant.
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I always verbally challenge real fur wearers in the street. If we all did it the wearer would soon get the message.
We need to make a stand and that means speaking up for what you feel is wrong. Let them know it's not ok!
Anna, Herts
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Looks like it's time to buy a few tins of red paint and get active out on the streets again.
It always makes me laugh when petty bourgeois so called 'animal lovers',such as my mother,and a few on here complain about their sensibilities being offended by such programmes.
Hear no evil,see no evil,speak no evil and it'll all somehow miraculously go away.....just pretend it ain't happening eh?
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In my opinion, every lady should be able to make her own choice of whether to wear or not to wear fur. I do agree that it is a grey area, however, sometimes when you see some of those ladies clothes you just can't resist.
They'll keep producing them anyways so why not "go with the flow"?
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237. At 12:57pm on 20 Jun 2009, MariaFalouri wrote:
In my opinion, every lady should be able to make her own choice of whether to wear or not to wear fur. I do agree that it is a grey area, however, sometimes when you see some of those ladies clothes you just can't resist.
They'll keep producing them anyways so why not "go with the flow"?
It's ignorant people like yourself who needs to understand the fur trade...
The majority of furs that are in circulation are from cats and dogs. Where do they get those animals from? They are or were stolen pets. How would you like it if all of a sudden one of your pets went missing and a few weeks later you saw someone walking down the street wearing a fur coat that looks identical to your missing pet?
I advise you watch this clip to see how animals are really treated for their fur.
http://uk.video.search.yahoo.com/video/play?p=skin+a+dog+alive&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-501&tnr=21&vid=0001317139368
If you still agree to the fur trade after watching that video then I really hope any and all like you die a slow death.
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