What did you think of The One Show? Guest: Ben Elton
Adrian and Christine were joined on The One Show by Ben Elton.
David Cameron isn't happy with the number of women MPs in his party. His solution? All women candidate shortlists. Matt Allwright investigated whether positive discrimination works.
Andrew Neil took a stroll down Fleet Street.
Justin Rowlatt travelled to Cultybraggen Prisoner of War Camp near the village of Comrie in Scotland, to meet former inmate Heinrich Steinmeyer.
Christopher Biggins made a gripping film about stage fright.
And Dan Snow joined Adrian and Christine in the studio to talk about his BBC Children in Need challenge, the cause of his nerves.
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I going to predict quite a few comments complaining about the bbc having a left wing biased.
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No im not complaining about that just having corrupt jackie smith on the tv thats all
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Ben Elton, how smug is he.
I prefer Andrew Neil.
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re 3 Andrew Neils hair is one of the seven wonders of the world.
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Andrew Neil was a bit out of order saying that parliament "already have enough of them" referring to homosexuals. Carol Thatcher was dropped for racist comments off air, how does he get away with it?
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What's the point of Andrew Neil?
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Re 2: agree completely. She was a disgrace when the expenses row blew up and even more so on QT last week when she was questioned about disgraced MPs taking places in the House of Lords.
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How naive to imagine that Parliament will suddenly have a gender balance with all female constituency lists! Perhaps if they tried to have a family friendly workplace - keeping normal hours (as Scottish Parliament has done) the equal opps issues will follow.
Now, for real equality Mr Cameron - how about all unemployed lists for a proportion of constituencies? Now that would be progressive - people with good CVs and experience who have been paid off as a result of the recession. They would appreciate the salary at least!
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Gaz911 post1: Please do, on last nights comments page I was having a go at those who whinge and snipe all the time. Things can't be super duper ALL the time. But if you took any notice of some you'd think there are no other comments to write other than whinge and bring others down.
I like reading yours comments, eg - Blair bashing - or...
complaining about those who complain about those who complain a few nights ago...
erm... guilty!
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I would love to know who is the male crew member with the realy dirty laugh? Please lets see who it is!!!!!!!!!
His laugh always gives me the giggles!
Great show, as always! x
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Look out Matt Allwright, Harman will soon make sure that you can't compete for a job because women must be chosen first.
Imagine the lefty outrage if the recruitment of primary school teachers, nurses and other jobs were all male shortlists due to the appalling lack of gender diversity - far worse than in parliament. And for that matter what about the inequality in the Department of Health where on average women are paid considerably more than men.
And just to shoot down this 'Lehman Sisters' nonsense about women changing everything for the good, it was a woman who invented Credit Default Swaps which resulted in the spread of toxic assets across the system.
Selecting by gender has nothing to do with representation. The only thing that matters in politics is diversity of opinion and what is actually required is more independent MPs that can only be brought about by loosening the power of the party whips.
We didn't need this discrimination to get a female PM or for that matter a Jewish PM, two things the US has never achieved. I'm with Widdecombe and I'll never vote for or respect a women candidate who hasn't had to compete against all-comers.
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re 9 Thanks appichappi
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I was appalled that the report on German prisoners of war routinely confused German soldiers with Nazis. The overwhelming majority of soldiers were not members of the Nazi party but conscripts, many from outside Germany. Unlike the UK they did not have the option of being conscientious objectors and, often together with their families, were interred in concentration camps or executed. This ill-informed reporting contributes to a mis-understanding of history.
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Andrew Neil needs to substantiate his claim that parliament has enough 'homosexuals' already ... and Ben Elton needs to remind himself that women are not a minority group and for very important political reasons, should not be grouped with 'homosexuals' or any other 'minority group'. I am shocked that two supposedly articulate men espouse such ill informed views.
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Best show for a while-Ben Elton is always entertaining with his political points-he still is a bit smug but not as bad as he used to be-he also wrote the last sitcom that was good family viewing and funny (The Thin Blue Line)-Andrew Neil is always slightly OTT and Matt Allwright jousting with Ann Widdecombe was a bit of a mismatch-there must be many other stories about German POWs-many prisoners detained in South Wales stayed around and married local women.
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The segment on the Nazi/German soldiers disgusted me. I cannot believe the One Show made Nazi's seem as if they are forgivable for their unspeakable crimes. The One Show made Nazi's seem humane and normal.
Absolutely sickening!
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16-I think times move on but I take your point-the German who went back to Scotland was high ranking SS-I think British people do have the ability to move forward and if not to forgive, to accept that was then and this is now and circumstances are totally different.
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Re:16 Naomi
The One Show did not make the Nazis seem humane and normal. They said quite clearly that the Nazi Leaders were the bad ones, not the rank & file.
Anyway, Scotland had many prisoners of war from both Germany and Italy and it should be to our pride that many stayed on after release to start new lives in Scotland when the war was over. Yes, we treated people well, even the enemy.
Many started businesses, which thrive today, many dishing up the best ice cream on the planet.
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Methinks Christine must have read last nights blogs. Very restrained tonight.
Go on girl, have a right good chuckle before the weeks out, I need my tonic.
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Sky Viewer&Wigglediggle Agree with you regarding Jacqui Smith . Her arrogance and deceitfulness was astounding!Why the Welsh audience, and panel, as well as Dimbleby did not challenge her, or show there disdain for her was strange?I wonder if it had been in London would the audience at least have shown her up the way they did to Margaret Beckett ?Good show tonight, enjoyed both guests and subjects .
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How could anyone accuse the One Show of having a left wing bias!!!!! Didn't like to let you down Gaz911.
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Post 5 and 14 - I agree
Why did this comment by Andrew Neil raise laughs? Unprofessional, inappropriate and disappointing.
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re #9 appichappi,
Are you still bleating about the so called whingers that irritate you.
I thought you had got it all out of system last night.
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re #11 labrat,
Here, here: especially the credit default swap revelation, I like it.
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re #6 Alun,
The point of Andrew Neil is that he is probably the best political interviewer in the business, together with John Humphries and Jeremy Paxman. He has also edited several broadsheet newswspapers. He has a sharp incisive mind that can cut through to the heart of any subject. Have you watched him on BBC2's Daily Politics?
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Nah... still room to tell a few home truths about a snotty nosed little thing like you. Enjoy joining in with the bitchy remarks did you?...
re #38: bordeauxmalc,
Your comments are an immense contribution to the debate on this subject. I am delighted to hear that you find The One Show so entertaining. Your observation that some nights are better than others is germane to the subject and revolutionary in the extreme. I will bear it in mind the next time I watch the show. Which nights do you think are better than others? Maybe it is Tuesdays, do you think? Though I must confess that most nights seem alike to me. It gives me comfort to know that The One Show brings you so much pleasure. Why did you feel it necessary to share with us that you are on and extended visit to the US? I am impressed. Is it nice there. What a pity you will not be able to see Christine's dresses or hear her laughter.
Proud of writing a comment like that are you?
Bit rich coming from you to accuse someone else of bleating. Is there a hypocrisy club on here for people to join? If there is - do put yourself for chairman won't you. Although, with your level of arrogance I expect that's the 1st thing you'd do anyway.
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Sorry, just to be clear I should've put this 1st:
johnholyer re post 23:
Nah... still room to tell a few home truths about a snotty nosed little thing like you. Enjoy joining in with the bitchy remarks did you?...
re #38: bordeauxmalc,
Your comments are an immense contribution to the debate on this subject. I am delighted to hear that you find The One Show so entertaining. Your observation that some nights are better than others is germane to the subject and revolutionary in the extreme. I will bear it in mind the next time I watch the show. Which nights do you think are better than others? Maybe it is Tuesdays, do you think? Though I must confess that most nights seem alike to me. It gives me comfort to know that The One Show brings you so much pleasure. Why did you feel it necessary to share with us that you are on and extended visit to the US? I am impressed. Is it nice there. What a pity you will not be able to see Christine's dresses or hear her laughter.
Proud of writing a comment like that are you?
Bit rich coming from you to accuse someone else of bleating. Is there a hypocrisy club on here for people to join? If there is - do put yourself for chairman won't you. Although, with your level of arrogance I expect that's the 1st thing you'd do anyway.
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If you have people such as A Neil to comment on Fleet Street etc why not check his facts first? Printers didn't go on strike, they were unceremoniously kicked out on the cobbles, after a long-term cleverly planned bit of jiggery-pokery to move to Wapping. I was even on holiday and took no part in anything that evening, obviously, but was still sacked immediately. How unfair is that? The very union they took on thereafter caused several stoppages prior to the sackings by refusing to repair the out-dated equipment gave us to use (it was obsolete well before we were to use it). He's so smug about it all, most of us got a bare minimum compensation based on cleaners' wages!! Bet he didn't!! Bitter? Wot, Me?
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I would like someone to explain to me how an organisation like the BBC can be regarded as impartial to all shades of the spectrum. To veer neither left nor right and keep to a centrist line would need such a narrow outlook and then no doubt they would be accused of perhaps showing bias to the Liberal Democrats, who one assumes is neither left nor right?
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#28
Kicked out for good reason...they'd taken the proverbial 'p' for too long.
Bet 'Red Robbo' still can't figure out why British Leyland closed down.
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What? No one going to explain to me? How disappointing! Well, Goodnight All, I'm off out for the evening.
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Well, things still haven't calmed down after last night's blog. Re last night's blog: jadedoldie - the comments I was referring to more than any others came in the post which appichappi included in his post above (26).
Re 6 & 25: the point of... wondered this myself for a long time. File with Piers Morgan (must be something to do with newspapers).
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re #27: appichappi,
I was planning to make fun of you but you are beyond parody. Your cage has been rattled. You seem quite angry. You do not come across as an appichappi. Never mind, because judging from your infantile attempt at being insulting I put your age round about 16. As you go through life you will discover that many people will disagree with your opinions. Try not to take it personally. Do not let it make you angry. You will learn that your anger will often damage you and not your intended victim.
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Well appichappi it seems that you have stirred the hornets nest tonight. Congratulations!
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Come on boys & girls.
You're all being as spiteful as one another.
This blog is supposed to be a rap about the show, learn to disagree and put your bows and arrows back where they belong.
Lovely dress last night Christine, can I get it in a size 26?
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post 34: Hi bordeauxmalc, ooh dear! You couldn't invent them could you? Are you sitting comfortably?... Then I'll begin:
'Dear john' re your lastest 'effort' ie post 33:
You come back to the comments page at 11:39pm - log on specially to write that - part of which is; "Your cage has been rattled" !! Have a think about that?
"judging from your infantile attempt at being insulting I put your age round about 16"
This is you being the essence of maturity is it? Then you go on to try and be all adult and grown up!! Where did you find the next bit? Have you being trawling the net until 11:39pm just to find that little bit? Get a life!
"I was planning to make fun of you but you are beyond parody"
Are you so screwed up that you STILL haven't switched on to the fact that I don't need (or want) to make fun of you, read your own comments - you are your own parody. If ever there was a case of someone speaking volumes about themselves by their remarks about others - then you (and jadedoldie) are it. I'll say the same to you as I have to her - I've gone from being disgusted by you due to the 'snotty', nasty, disparaging, small minded remarks you seem to enjoy making about people - to being sorry for you. See your GP, tell him/her what you're like - do something - anything that gets you to a point where you don't feel the need to be aiming your bile at others.
"You seem quite angry" Not anger - disgust, well yes - and anger, what gives you the right to be so nasty to people? Is it because like most bullies you're a coward and know that being safe behind your keyboard leaves you free to comment as you do? Read your comments again, then go to a mirror, look yourself in the eye and ask yourself if you're honestly glad to have written those comments. The only reason for this now is because you simply just could not resist yet another snide comment - this time aimed at me (post23) - grow up!
"You will learn that your anger will often damage you and not your intended victim."
Is that some kind of cock-eyed expanation for why you write such unpleasant comments? Again - see your GP, anger isn't healthy - and a BBC comments page isn't the place to be letting it out.
Don't reply to this, I can't be bothered with you anymore. I'm not here to provide some kind of therapy for people like you and jadedoldie. You're one of those I was refering to when I wrote about scrolling past certain peoples comments in my original reply to bordeauxmalc. If you haven't got the message by now I suggest you become a politician - they're a bit slow on the uptake when it comes to common decency, you'd fit in quite well. I'm going back to the scroll button.
If you want to carry on with your snide comments - do. But before you do, I suggest you read this comment of mine through at least 2-3 times, then sit quietly and have a think.
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PS: bordeauxmalc - apologies for not replying/thanking you for your previous post(57)night before last.
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post 34: Hi bordeauxmalc, ooh dear! You couldn't invent them could you? Are you sitting comfortably?... Then I'll begin:
'Dear john' re your lastest 'effort' ie post 33:
You come back to the comments page at 11:39pm - log on specially to write that - part of which is; "Your cage has been rattled" !! Have a think about that?
"judging from your infantile attempt at being insulting I put your age round about 16"
This is you being the essence of maturity is it? Then you go on to try and be all adult and grown up!! Where did you find the next bit? Have you being trawling the net until 11:39pm just to find that little bit? Get a life!
"I was planning to make fun of you but you are beyond parody"
Are you so screwed up that you STILL haven't switched on to the fact that I don't need (or want) to make fun of you, read your own comments - you are your own parody. If ever there was a case of someone speaking volumes about themselves by their remarks about others - then you (and jadedoldie) are it. I'll say the same to you as I have to her - I've gone from being disgusted by you due to the 'snotty', nasty, disparaging, small minded remarks you seem to enjoy making about people - to being sorry for you. See your GP, tell him/her what you're like - do something - anything that gets you to a point where you don't feel the need to be aiming your bile at others.
"You seem quite angry" Not anger - disgust, well yes - and anger, what gives you the right to be so nasty to people? Is it because like most bullies you're a coward and know that being safe behind your keyboard leaves you free to comment as you do? Read your comments again, then go to a mirror, look yourself in the eye and ask yourself if you're honestly glad to have written those comments. The only reason for this now is because you simply just could not resist yet another snide comment - this time aimed at me (post23) - grow up!
"You will learn that your anger will often damage you and not your intended victim."
Is that some kind of cock-eyed expanation for why you write such unpleasant comments? Again - see your GP, anger isn't healthy - and a BBC comments page isn't the place to be letting it out.
Don't reply to this, I can't be bothered with you anymore. I'm not here to provide some kind of therapy for people like you and jadedoldie. You're one of those I was refering to when I wrote about scrolling past certain peoples comments in my original reply to bordeauxmalc.
If you want to carry on with your snide comments - do. But before you do, I suggest you read this comment of mine through at least 2-3 times, then sit quietly and have a think.
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PS: bordeauxmalc - apologies for not replying/thanking you for your previous post(57)night before last.
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Apologies all for a 'double' portion, hit the post comment button and it did something funny, thought it was because I wrote a long one.
Anyway, you may (or may not?!!) be glad to hear soapbox is put away now.
erm... Have a nice day?
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re #36 & 37: appichappi,
I have indeed read your comment, several times in fact. But I have to say that it is not so much a comment, but more of rant.
Clearly, you must have a point buried in there somewhere albeit arcane. All I can infer from your rant is that you are pretty much annoyed with many things, particularly with anyone who has the temerity to disagree with you.
Your piece has the tone of being written by an angry and precocious teenager. In which case I will ignore you, as you have advised me to do.
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re #36 & 37 & 39: jadedoldie,
appichappi does not like us. Oh dear.
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Re post 40, johnholyer I thught I would be devastated, but find I am not. This is I think the result of my precarious mental state, no doubt fostered by my reliance on my imaginary [according to appichappi] family and friends. Fortunately they [the people I SAY I live with???] find it as amusing as I do. I can only hope you are no more traumatised than I am. Do I also detect a little deja vu, in that the voice from America speaks and the poodle yaps in reaction?
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Well jaded this is 'the voice from America' to let you know that I'm leaving Washington today for Sunny California. Does this help your bile? However my laptop goes with me, I wouldn't want to miss the blog! Perhaps your choice of pseudonym speaks volumes? Oh, just in passing I don't have a dog 'poodle' or otherwise. It seems to me that appichappi is eloquent enough without my help!
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Post 42, so pleased that you will be keeping in touch, I think I could find a better use of my time in an interesting country like the USA than stirring up hornet's nests, still, to each his own, enjoy. By the way, I have no problem with bile, neither my own or the spillage of anyone else's. Appichappi is certainly eloquent, but the content, AAAAAAAAAAh! Bon voyage.
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Andrew Neil referred to journalism as a 'profession' - how dare he? A professional is someone who trains for many years to obtain qualifications and be 'registered', who takes complete responsibility for his actions, and who, generally, is properly impartial in his views/advice. Apart from a few notable exceptions (including, of course, all the One Show team - well, maybe excluding Adrian!), where are the journalists who can claim to meet these standards?
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re #42: bordeaumalc,
You state that appichappi is eloquent. The dictionary definition of that word is, "Expressing yourself readily, clearly, effectively". Are you really sure you want to use that word in the context of appichappi? I think that 'rant' and 'diatribe' would describe him better
I suggest you would be wise not to attack people on their choice of pseudonym. Well, at least not without first having had a good look at your own.
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Hi johnholyer, I assumed bordeaumalc meant the less pleasant definition, rather unused nowadays, of "forcible" I must concede to appichappi being that, lol.
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Re #46:
I was toying with the idea that the pseudonym referred to a 'Malcolm who liked his wine'.
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Shame on Andrew Neil for accusing the News International printers for going on strike some 23 years ago.
I concur with Dave Wilson (comment 28) about the way we were 'locked out' from our jobs. I know, I was there. The BBC and The One Show have a duty to the public to make sure that the comments their guests make are accurate. And A. Neil's were certainly NOT.
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I love the one show, it's complete mind rotting drivel! Adrian Piles leaning forward squinting at the idio board and Christine Bleakly screeching like a cross between a demented jackdaw and a wailing banshee.
The episode feature an interview with Michael Stipe from R.E.M. was a pure classic, Micahel looked on, completely bemused whilst mad as a bat Christine Walkden displayed her collection of strangely shaped vegetables to the world.
It's the best incentive to get up out of the armchair and do something productive!!
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Bordeauxmalc, Post 42: Well I did say you couldn't invent them didn't I?
I know I'm repeating myself with this, but it's so true:
"If ever there was a case of someone speaking volumes about themselves by their remarks about others"
Thanks for your comment. I knew that you are more than able to speak for yourself and hope you didn't mind me 'joining the fray' so to speak - but they were so asking for it - that well, they got it! Shame they're too thick to realise what they make themselves look like - and by the look of it they have no intentions of stopping.
Wish you hadn't mentioned about leaving for sunny California - have a thought for those of us back here please! Have a nice trip whatever you're doing.
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