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What did you think of The One Show? Guest: Elaine Paige

The One Show Team | 15:51 UK time, Wednesday, 7 October 2009

Adrian and Christine were joined in the studio by singer and actress Elaine Paige.

Paddy O'Connell looked at the importance of public relations in politics.

The One Show's geologist Aubrey Manning visited Whitby to tell the story of the gemstone jet - it's found in a small area of North Yorkshire.

In the studio, Alan Hart, the main mineral man at the Natural History Museum told us about other stones that can be found around the UK

Dom Littlewood looked at the consequences of driving whilst uninsured.

Stephen Fry and Matt LucasAnd Arthur Smith went hunting for the origins of popular phrases.

Play The celeb-packed One Show Word Game, as mentioned on the show!

Also: Did you see the film about Scottish independence, yesterday? Join the lively debate on the blog here.

What did you think of tonight's show? Add your comment.

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  • 1. At 7:07pm on 07 Oct 2009, BCFC_MassiveAttack wrote:

    Lord Snooty was in the BEANO not the Dandy... get it right!

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  • 2. At 7:13pm on 07 Oct 2009, considerateJuls wrote:

    Elaine may be 'all shiney and appealing' in appearance, but I felt she showed her real personality when she curtly spoke to Giles as he put his hand on her left shoulder - what an insight into her demeanor!

    It certainly is true; unrehearsed reactions to other warm hearted guests (Giles) have exposed her self-important nature!

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  • 3. At 7:16pm on 07 Oct 2009, lab-rat wrote:

    How on earth does this anti-Tory bias, day in day out, satisfy the BBC's Charter? Pathetic. Abolish the BBC.

    I don't remember the BBC showing Ed Balls at uni dressed as a Nazi and asking whether he was a devotee of Hitler? Or that the BBC employs a Bullingdon club member, David Dimbelby. If it's not good enough for the BBC then why do you employ former members?

    Or how about the BBC highlighting the past associations of Labour MPs like Alistair Darling (member of the International Marxist Group, British section of the Trotskyist Fourth International), Bob Ainsworth (International Marxist Group), John Reid (member of the Communist Party), Peter Mandelson (member of the Young Communist League). Stephen Byers and Alan Milburn (both Trotskyist).

    Oh. I forgot. Those are on the BBC's list of acceptable past associations.

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  • 4. At 7:16pm on 07 Oct 2009, politicalnewsmonitor wrote:

    I refer to your brief political coverage tonight.
    Will you PLEASE get over this classist balony !
    Nobody in the real world actually cares who is 'Posh' or who is not.
    Nobody in the real world actually cares who drinks beer and who champagne !
    IT IS ALL PURELY A MEDIA OBSESSION!
    Real people care about the economy, about jobs, about wages about tax.
    WE DONT GIVE A MONKEYS ABOUT YOUR CHILDISH OBSESSION WITH CLASS !
    Sorry if this sounds slightly abusive ... but do please GROW UP !!!!

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  • 5. At 7:16pm on 07 Oct 2009, compo808 wrote:

    Is the One Show now anti conservative I bet Adrian Chiles drinks champagne and there is no way in your wildest dreams you can call him a Toff. I drink champagne in fact I have just looked in my fridge and there are 2 bottles on the bottom shelf and I am no Toff either.

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  • 6. At 7:16pm on 07 Oct 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    considerateJuls.WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT,,SOME DO NOT LIKE TOUCHY FEELY PEOPLE.
    Mr Brandreth is a friendly character but some find him off putting,i do.

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  • 7. At 7:18pm on 07 Oct 2009, thecheshiregit wrote:

    Well that isn't the debate is it?!?

    Right from the beano to the issue - We don't need PR, why can't we just have someone who tells it straight and doesn't waste money on spin and stuff that, to be honest makes us SEEM intelligent because we're talking about politics but really we're talking about matters that re not of our concern - power and knowledge to the masses - bull, its more like "er me clever you clever."


    CAMERON: sod ya PR and ya toff history - and cut ya contacts from the the far right parties of europe!!! SHUT AND DO THINGS for everyone, not ya 'contacts'.

    And blair was a war criminal! It's just unfortunate that the world recession imploded just before Brown took over

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  • 8. At 7:18pm on 07 Oct 2009, lydia60 wrote:

    What is wrong with drinking champagne! You can buy very good, cheap champagne these days, never mind the good stuff. Why should everyone be brought down to the lowest level. Everyone should be trying to become a well educated person, aiming to get good employment and to better themselves in every way. Why should we all become the lowest common denominator. I am sure Adrian is enjoying the lifestyle that working for the BBC has brought him and his family (even if he does come from West Bromich and there is nothing wrong with that I might add because I come from Birmingham).

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  • 9. At 7:18pm on 07 Oct 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    politicalnewsmonitor .....re:class...
    i agree,class should be dead,we should worry about real issues.

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  • 10. At 7:21pm on 07 Oct 2009, amazing1showfan wrote:

    1 think Elaine Page has an amazing voice and is extremely talented. I also think she was quite right to ask Giles to remove his hand from her shoulder as he seems to get extremely close to guests and some people find this very intimidating.

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  • 11. At 7:21pm on 07 Oct 2009, bht147 wrote:

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  • 12. At 7:22pm on 07 Oct 2009, cleavdonLittle wrote:

    what an eye opener the report on James Parkhust who suffered horrific life changing injuries after being knocked from his bicycle by an uninsured driver. I wonder what BBC and celebrity TV chef James Martin thinks?? given his comments published in the mail on sunday. Maybe the one show shouls have him as a guest and ask him?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1211917/JAMES-MARTIN-The-Tesla-Roadster-electric-supercar-thats-fast-Ferrari.html

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  • 13. At 7:25pm on 07 Oct 2009, jipgo2410 wrote:

    Adrian should keep up with Radio 4. The Champagne was White Lable POL ROGET at around £30 a bottle. Hardly the quaff of a toff. And who apart from the mirror "quaff". Just goes to show the power of the press to twist the info, as an additional aside the Champagne was paid for by The Spectator.

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  • 14. At 7:26pm on 07 Oct 2009, BCFC_MassiveAttack wrote:

    I'd love some champagne, but not on my beer money.

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  • 15. At 7:27pm on 07 Oct 2009, bludgeond wrote:

    It's about time Adrian Chiles showed a little less new labour bias in his interviews. He never stops his little digs about David Cameron. So what if he went to Eton, Tony Blair went to Fettes the Eton of Scotland and Harriet Harperson also went to public school, Gordon Brown didnt, and a fine job he is doing of messing up the country. Personally I found Adrian Chiles a silly little man and resent paying towards his salary. So no more One Show for me.

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  • 16. At 7:28pm on 07 Oct 2009, bht147 wrote:

    I thought that the latin name for a monkey puzzle tree was (RUBICUS CHIMPANZEUM)

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  • 17. At 7:29pm on 07 Oct 2009, robtrooper wrote:

    It has taken me a few minuets to register on this blog and all i wanted to say has already been commented on. Why does the BBC insist on knocking the tories at every opportunity. Even the one show. A supposedly light hearted magazine. But still that champagne socialist Adrian Childs Was champing at the bit to Knock David Cameron. Lets hope the paps have a field day snapping comrade Ade with a glass of fizz in his chubby brummie mit.

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  • 18. At 7:30pm on 07 Oct 2009, queenPandaeyes wrote:

    Adrian Chiles showed his political colours as usual.
    You could see him getting annoyed with Giles.
    No wonder the BBC love Mr. Chiles, right up their PC street.

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  • 19. At 7:32pm on 07 Oct 2009, chippiebarney wrote:

    i just bought 6 bottle of champagne for £9 each at the weekend so hardly 'posh' lifestyle. Doesnt A Chiles have a £2m BBC pay package, drive a Bentley. I doubt he buys his food at Lidl's, shops at Primark and lives on a identi-kit housing estate like a lot of people have to because they dont have a 6-7 figure salary- I expect he lives a very affluent lifestyle associated with the 'posh' people he has such a chip on his shoulder about. He's a prime example of the sickening champagne socialists that the BBC is riddled with. As with MPs expenses,the BBC salaries and expenses should be next on the chopping block. And what's more - he's ugly.

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  • 20. At 7:34pm on 07 Oct 2009, DondoScot wrote:

    Once again the BBC misses out some interesting article about the quartz that is found in the Cairngorms on the One show. Gems from England and Ireland are discussed, however they run out of time to discuss the quartz which is found in Scotland. Is it any wonder the Scots feel marginalised by the "British" Broadcasting Corporation! Bring yer man back to talk about quartz found in the Cairngorms and then I'll be happy.

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  • 21. At 7:36pm on 07 Oct 2009, malmont wrote:

    What a shame Adrian's political leanings were so exposed when discussing the Tories. Surely he cant be biased when presenting his show. Hasnt he ever drunk Champagne?
    People should be judged on who they are, rich or poor, its what you make of your self that counts.

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  • 22. At 7:37pm on 07 Oct 2009, kenmurphy wrote:

    not enough room to swing a cat has nothing to do with the animal Cat
    It refers to the Cat o'nine tails that was used to flog errant sailors
    There was little room on ships of those days and sometimes not enough room to 'swing a cat'

    ken Murphy
    oxford

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  • 23. At 7:37pm on 07 Oct 2009, supertetbury wrote:

    I have been watching the one show since it started, I can honestly say that it is getting less and less interesting and appears to be all about Adrian Chiles and Christine Bleakley. They seem to have the same guests over and over again. Elaine Paige was very good, but I do think that the celebrities rarely have time to put their own views forward.

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  • 24. At 7:38pm on 07 Oct 2009, ironroyboy wrote:

    From his childish comments regarding David Cameron is Adrian Chiles inferring that he, as good socialist,has never drunk champagne.Of course he has;he is one of the hypocritical champagne socialists.Who does this whining voiced brummie and his partner who sounds like a female ian paisley think they are?They are just readers of autocues and they should stick to that and leave politics to the more serious commentators.

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  • 25. At 7:39pm on 07 Oct 2009, marden8 wrote:

    What a shame!!!
    Showing the gemstones of the UK!!!!! And for some reason the Scottish stones were not even mentioned!!!!!!
    As for being TOFFs why not we need something upperclass!!!!

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  • 26. At 7:41pm on 07 Oct 2009, plasticbluechick wrote:

    What did I feel about the show? Utterly appalled. On your own website this is described as as a "topical magazine programme". What it became tonight was a vehicle for Adrian Childs to act as a spin doctor for the Labour party. His rant about David Cameron was totally out of order. His personal opinions have no place here, but political bias in favour of Labour is something we have come to expect from the BBC.

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  • 27. At 7:41pm on 07 Oct 2009, kingswillow wrote:

    I am totally disgusted with Adrian Chiles attack on david cameron,this old rubbish about him drinking champagne is so boring,but im afraid thats you Adrian totally boring.has anyone else noticed that he doesnt like anyone on there being funny,he likes to think he is the only one on there who is entitled to make jokes.I promise you mate the only thing funny about you is your face.Please bbc get this one dimensional man off the television

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  • 28. At 7:41pm on 07 Oct 2009, archoggie wrote:

    The phrase definitions 0n tonight's show were not all correct.
    Letting the cat out of the bag refers to removing the cat o' nine tails from the bosun's bag. Royal Navy in the eighteenth/nineteenth century.
    No room to swing a cat also refers to the cat o' nine tails. A whip of nine long leather thongs used for flogging punishment in the Royal Navy and which needed plenty of space for swinging.

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  • 29. At 7:43pm on 07 Oct 2009, dave2360 wrote:

    It's also about time that the BBC remove Adrian Chiles unless he can demonstrate a balanced approach. The One Show should not be a forum for his blatant leftist views. He should take up his football boots and return to the Midlands were he can drown his sorrows in a vat of beer to ensure he can maintain his wasteline.

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  • 30. At 7:45pm on 07 Oct 2009, sandancer67 wrote:

    My husband said that Arthur Smiths explanation regarding "enough room to swing a cat" was incorrect. Apparently it is a maritime phrase for having enough room to swing a cat-o-nine tails on a ship in order to dispense punishment. Is he correct?

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  • 31. At 7:46pm on 07 Oct 2009, bludgeond wrote:

    Following on from previous comment I see cheshiregit believes the Recession hit Gordon. It didn't. It was his spending of every penny of our taxes during a boom instead of saving some for later. But of course he has stopped "Boom & Bust" hasn't he?
    OK Chiles you wouldn't know because your salary is far higher than Cameron's,as is Paxman's, but the BBC won't tell us the very people who pay you even deleting Boris's enquiries of Paxman. BBC get a grip and take your labour bias out of this rather feeble vehicle for Chiles.

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  • 32. At 7:46pm on 07 Oct 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    the one show is a show of bias in many ways.
    whenever something is against our interests and beliefs we trot out the bias comments,,,i should know i do it often.
    marden8...blog 25,,,i am sure you are tongue in cheek...real toffs wont be watching the one show.

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  • 33. At 7:47pm on 07 Oct 2009, carolinenutta wrote:

    Giles Brandreth was not only politically biased and positively drooling over the idea of David Cameron as future prime minister, but he was also salivating all over Elaine Paige. I'm certain she would not have appreciated it. Has he never heard about personal space or even sexism?

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  • 34. At 7:51pm on 07 Oct 2009, johnholyer wrote:

    A monstrous display of political bias. But never mind it was too infantile to matter. The One Show is a silly little programme produced by silly little people and is hosted by Adrian Chiles who can turn nasty when someone disagrees with him. Giles laughed at him tonight and Adrian did not like it. But I did.

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  • 35. At 7:51pm on 07 Oct 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    carolinenutta ....33.
    excellent blog,,,agree 110%

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  • 36. At 7:58pm on 07 Oct 2009, SerendipitySmiles wrote:

    “Not Enough Room to Swing a Cat”

    This, as in the case of many other sayings, goes back to the days of sailing ships and refers to the ‘cats o’ nine tails’, or whip with nine thongs used on sailors. As the cabins and crews’ quarters were very small, there was not enough room to swing a cat and so the sailors were whipped up on deck.

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  • 37. At 8:00pm on 07 Oct 2009, chocolate dog wrote:

    The champagne was only a story because of the Tories reportedly instituting a self-imposed ban on it at their conference because of worries over what the press would say. Unsurprisingly this meant that the papers were watching like hawks and what would have otherwise been a non-story to excite only the more lefty trade unionists became a stick to hit the politicians with.
    Whether or not the party did issue such a ban is germane to the argument. It may, of course, be the case that journos just made it up, knowing that they could then use it to make a story from nothing. Or it may have been a creation of the Tories' own PR machine that went wrong.

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  • 38. At 8:01pm on 07 Oct 2009, midnightlizziebeth wrote:

    Arthur Smith's phrases and sayings about animals missed out "Like a bat out of Hell". I would be very interested if anyone can come up with an origin for this saying, I have been looking for months to find the answer - it seems Google cant help, can anyone at the BBC or elsewhere??

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  • 39. At 8:05pm on 07 Oct 2009, newshound5 wrote:

    If arthur Smith took a tour around HMS Victory he would hear that letting the cat out of the bag refers to the punishment of sailors on board ship by the cat of nine tails, the bag holding the whip was hung in view hence the term letting the cat out of the bag, also refers to the statement no room to swing a cat as ships of the time were tight on space.

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  • 40. At 8:08pm on 07 Oct 2009, astroplums wrote:

    Blimey, the knives are out tonight!

    it may be worth considering that Adrian Chiles is only reading out what is written for him.

    Many of the posts tonight are just envy based drivel - I don't drive a flash car, but if he does, good luck to him. As for Christine sounding like Ian Paisley, well that's as silly as it gets or possibly xenophobic.

    Oh, I see that my insecure countrymen are reaching for their 'pens' again. It's that damned quartz, ken fit a mean!

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  • 41. At 8:12pm on 07 Oct 2009, astroplums wrote:

    34 Johnholyer

    If the programme is a " silly little programme produced by silly little people and hosted by Adrian Chiles" why do you watch it so regularly?

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  • 42. At 8:15pm on 07 Oct 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    astroplums.why did you ask johnholyer that question?
    be prepared for the answers.
    if he quotes a latin phrase or mentions an obscure and terrible poet it is your own fault.

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  • 43. At 8:16pm on 07 Oct 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    only kidding johnholyer....not many of us old timers left now.

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  • 44. At 8:18pm on 07 Oct 2009, astroplums wrote:

    HokeyK...thanks for the warning!

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  • 45. At 8:19pm on 07 Oct 2009, FrankieManning wrote:

    We agree that there was very clear anti Cameron bias by Adrian Chiles and Christine wasn't far behind him. Cameron may be creating a PR promotion to the public, but what does Chiles think the other parties have been doing for the past 12 years? Labour have spun and spun, and lied and lied, and are tainted with sleaze, so please dont come over all sanctimonious with us. We are more intelligent than the BBC gives us credit for, and we can make our own minds up thankyou.

    This political bias towards Labour, which we suspect will reach fever point in the next 7 or 8 months does great discredit to an organisation which in many other respects is truly world class in its output.

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  • 46. At 8:21pm on 07 Oct 2009, jadedoldie wrote:

    Chiles seems to think that sweeping controversial statements about class endear him to the public. From the preceding blogs I think he may be wrong! How long before it sinks in one wonders?
    hokey, post 32, your last sentence, I beg to differ, lol.

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  • 47. At 8:24pm on 07 Oct 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    jadedoldie ...good evening,hope you are in good spirits?
    are you a toff?
    not bothered if you are but if any toffs could blog and end the blog by saying "i am a toff and i am proud to be watching the best of the bbc."
    my best wishes to you jadedoldie

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  • 48. At 8:27pm on 07 Oct 2009, Boxerlow wrote:

    Adrian Chiles off on one of his rants yet again with respect to the conservative party, he really knows how to nail his colours to the mast. Thanks to Giles who at least prevented him from making a complete fool of himself. Its high time the BBC took a grip of this programme to stop this continual partisan drivel. On that note I think I shall have a glass of champagne and consider whether I tune in tomorrow or not!!

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  • 49. At 8:28pm on 07 Oct 2009, cynyc82 wrote:

    I think that Adrian Chiles should be sacked. My taxes are paying his very large salary and I do not pay him to show political bias, no matter how childish it is. This man is constantly pushing his political opinions and I find them to be extremely offensive. It makes me wonder how bright he is when he seems to be intent on upsetting the majority of voters, according to the opinion polls, and no doubt also the probable next government who will ultimately be responsible for the BBC. licence fee. Apart from that why doesn't he just declare himself to be a blithering rank labourite and go and peddle his views somewhere else where I and millions of others will not hear him, or would he then earn less of my taxes than he does now!!.

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  • 50. At 8:28pm on 07 Oct 2009, johnholyer wrote:

    hokeykokeyalex,

    I do not take offence. I enjoy good knock about fun.

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  • 51. At 8:29pm on 07 Oct 2009, jadedoldie wrote:

    Hi hokeycokeyalex, I am well and thank you for your interest. I could no more say that than I could sit at a foorball match with the joyless one swigging beer! I hope the remainder of your evening is pleasant.

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  • 52. At 8:31pm on 07 Oct 2009, jadedoldie wrote:

    Post 48 Boxerlow, I raise my glass of vintage port to you,lol.

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  • 53. At 8:35pm on 07 Oct 2009, withypatch wrote:

    Good show, but I think that the information that Arthur Smith gave out about the origin of certain sayings was not correct.
    The origin of "cat out of the bag", and also "room to swing a cat"
    Have their origins from the Sea and early sailing Ships. they both refer to the Cat of nine tails,When a seaman had offended he would have benn subjected to lashes of the Cat.but firstly the Cat had to be removed from its bag, Room to swing a cat came from the same era, often below decks, space would have been very limited, hence the saying, not enougth room to swing a cat, or the cat.

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  • 54. At 8:38pm on 07 Oct 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    johnholyer ...we used to disagree a lot,,,now we just do not have much common ground.
    did i tell you i think the one show has a south east/london bias?
    just thought i would mention it.
    to answer for john holyer as a provider of money to the bbc he has a right to watch whether he thinks it is good,bad or a bit of both.
    rather like me i hope he watches and passes comment because he would like to see it improved.

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  • 55. At 8:43pm on 07 Oct 2009, jadedoldie wrote:

    Post 54, hokey when did you develop this idea of a London bias?
    Para 3 well said I agree 100%
    I do wonder what has happened to the old regulars, in particular geordieangel2.

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  • 56. At 8:45pm on 07 Oct 2009, amanitas wrote:

    Hi there,
    Mr Chiles is a silly little man, and keeps interrupting guests, he should stick to the match of the day show. Giles Brandreth is so boring as is the show. Why not invite Nick Griffen on the show, at least this man has been elected, unlike the man in ten Downing Street, or are the BBC to PC or terrified to do this.

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  • 57. At 8:52pm on 07 Oct 2009, johnholyer wrote:


    re #41 astroplums,

    Johnholyer salutem plurimon dicit. I watch The One Show ab invito because its production is frequently fabula albeit unintentionally. Actually,the truth is I watch it because I enjoy this blog.

    To my friend hockeykokey Alex I say, mutantur omnia et mutamur in illis.

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  • 58. At 8:55pm on 07 Oct 2009, robertbridget wrote:

    New Labour Adrian Chiles employed by New Labour BBC.
    The hypocrite Adrian Chiles is so New Labour and so anti 'posh" that he has to exist on the £1.2 MILLION he gets for appearing on BBC1 and BBC2 TV.
    He is the perfect example of a very PC New Labour supporter and one of the reasons the nation will elect a new government next year.

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  • 59. At 8:58pm on 07 Oct 2009, jadedoldie wrote:

    post 57, johnholyer, you can't teach old dogs new tricks!

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  • 60. At 8:59pm on 07 Oct 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    johnholyer..........but it is way too slow for me,change that is.

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  • 61. At 9:00pm on 07 Oct 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    jadedoldie .who's the old dog ????

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  • 62. At 9:01pm on 07 Oct 2009, malmont wrote:

    The one Show is popular despite Adrian not because. He has his moments but not enough to enjoy his smugness and percieved superiority of the viewers. Leave him to grovel at Sir Alan and take him off MOTD 2.
    Bye the way I'm not a Tory just hate unfairness

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  • 63. At 9:02pm on 07 Oct 2009, seletar541 wrote:

    In the interests of BBC impartiality and fairness I trust that a future "One Show" will now do a hatchet job on Gordon Brown, following the attempted assassination of David Cameron? When mentioning Gordon you could refer to him stealing the billions of pounds of pension funds resulting in thousands of pensioners facing penury. You could also refer to him putting this country in hock due to his economic policies and don't forget selling off half this country's gold when it was at rock bottom prices. However, I will not hold my breath waiting. This show has just lost more viewers.

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  • 64. At 9:03pm on 07 Oct 2009, astroplums wrote:

    57 Johnholyer:

    si vis amari ama

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  • 65. At 9:06pm on 07 Oct 2009, jadedoldie wrote:

    Post 61 hokey, not you my dear, you would be the young cub.[comparatively speaking]

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  • 66. At 9:07pm on 07 Oct 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    seletar541 ...didnt you see the hatchet job on brown by mr brandreth when they talked about his body language?

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  • 67. At 9:08pm on 07 Oct 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    jadedoldie......ah !!!! i feel better now.x

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  • 68. At 9:09pm on 07 Oct 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    jadedoldie....young,,,ummmh ???
    47 ish.
    is that young...i feel old now

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  • 69. At 9:14pm on 07 Oct 2009, BCFC_MassiveAttack wrote:

    Wow, what a bunch of moaners, you should chill out with a bottle of DC's champange or watch Emmerdale instead! Pierre x

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  • 70. At 9:18pm on 07 Oct 2009, jadedoldie wrote:

    hokey you are a stripling youth,lol. I, by comparison, am an old female dog who well deserves the name sometimes.

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  • 71. At 9:28pm on 07 Oct 2009, chocolate dog wrote:


    There is a well-studied psychological effect whereby people seek out evidence that reinforces prior held beliefs. So on this this blog those that believe that the BBC has a strong bias against the Tories will collate any evidence that shows this, whilst ignoring what might undermine it. So in their memory Adrian's quips are given more importance, whilst the comments from Gyles are filtered out.
    Someone coming to the show with the opposite prejudice (that the Beeb is prejudiced against the left) would make much of the inclusion of Neil Kinnock's coastal mishap or Michael Foot's donkey jacket in the VT. We instinctively seek that which reinforces our world-view.

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  • 72. At 9:35pm on 07 Oct 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    chocolate dog...71,,agreed

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  • 73. At 9:40pm on 07 Oct 2009, jadedoldie wrote:

    Post 71 and 72, just because we're paronoid doesn't mean they aren't plotting against us.

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  • 74. At 9:42pm on 07 Oct 2009, jadedoldie wrote:

    *paranoid*, and the bias theory has never negated the presence of bias!

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  • 75. At 9:46pm on 07 Oct 2009, textnician wrote:


    Elaine Paige's adverse reaction to Gyles Brandreth's hand on her shoulder was understandable. GB has a very in-yer-face style that invades personal space. Done by a manager in an office, it could be misunderstood as sexual harassment. Anyone sitting next to me in the pub and doing that to me would get a verbal warning, with a sore nose if it was repeated (unless of course he was bigger than me).

    Adrian Chiles has a less pronounced but similar "dominance" posture next to Christine Bleakley, that looks a bit patronising.

    Rather than take my word for it (assuming anyone on the programme actually reads viewers' comments), get a psychologist to analyse the styles of Chiles and Gyles.

    However, look on the bright side, GB's non-stop chatter about politicians' PR image stymied the attempt by AC to get over a bit of subliminal anti-Tory stuff.

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  • 76. At 10:06pm on 07 Oct 2009, johnholyer wrote:

    re #71: chocolatedog,

    You are saying nothing more that, in your opinion, we are all too thick to reach a balanced decision on the totality of the evidence.

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  • 77. At 10:10pm on 07 Oct 2009, chocolate dog wrote:

    I think that there was a missed opportunity. When doing the 'Call my bluff' style bit with the etymology of animal-based idioms both of the given explanations for the origins of 'red herring' should have been, erm, red herrings.

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  • 78. At 10:32pm on 07 Oct 2009, sky_viewer wrote:

    Re 38: midnightlizziebeth - I did a google search for this expression and came up with a couple of possible origins/explanations. One is that the bat has, since Jacobean times, been associated with witches & the supernatural (hence the 'hell' part), and together with their fast, flitting movement, snything going at a reckless speed may be described in this way.

    Another is that the bat's aversion to light may also explain why the expression is as such.

    Re johnholyer & astroplums - we'll soon need a 'translate this page' feature if the Latin keeps up!!

    Re 55: I too have been wondering about geordieangel - I do hope she's OK. According to the records, her last post was way back on 29 August.

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  • 79. At 10:38pm on 07 Oct 2009, chocolate dog wrote:

    No, johnhoyler I am not calling anyone thick.
    Very intelligent and sophisticated people are subject to the effect and don't exempt myself from the analysis. Everybody, from Nobel laureates to tabloid journalists are subject to the effect. Indeed it is because of the sophistication of the human brain that we are peculiarly prone to it. We don't just compute information uncritically, like a machine, but constantly assess and re-assess it on the basis of prior experience and belief. If we didn't we would stop functioning as people, unable to come to any decision due to the huge weight of unfiltered information.

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  • 80. At 10:47pm on 07 Oct 2009, caprotina wrote:

    I fell asleep.

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  • 81. At 11:08pm on 07 Oct 2009, terrijacko wrote:

    polictical comments should be stopped , I`m getting fed up with the BBC labour bias, all presenters should keep their opinions to themselves and stop trying to score points for the labour party, I`m not posh but what Adrian said is wrong, every opportunity Adrian Chiles has a chance to dish the conservatives he does and he should be stopped he is a disgrace. I pay my licence fee to be entertained not see a political debate.
    I no longer watch the BBC news as you do not get a balance agrument
    it`s disgrace, who pays your fees????

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  • 82. At 11:09pm on 07 Oct 2009, watchingone wrote:

    Wow! from reading the blog I thought Adrian must have eaten a small furry cute animal live on tv or something, I couldnt imagine anything else provoking such wrath! So I watched the prog back and all I saw was him lose his temper slightly in an argument with Gyles which I think Gyles won - he put up a robust argument in favour of Cameron. Post 71 you are right and judging by these blogs in the past couple of weeks, those who are moved to blog to complain about controversial issues covered by the show seem to take a fairly right wing stance so they are going to be outraged by what they perceive as anti Tory bias. Adrian supports Labour, so what, I couldnt care less, I make up my own mind who to vote for. If his views come through on screen, well he's the presenter of a magazine programme and a football show, he's not a political journalist or doing Newsnight so I dont think political independence is particularly important. All the opinion polls show the Tories miles ahead anyway, so I dont suppose the views of one bloke are going to make much difference. Post 24 - Ian Paisley comments, thats just downright rude. Post 75 - thats very interesting I have noticed A & C tend to lean in towards each other, I assumed thats due to a camera angle, and Adrian seems to have trouble sitting still - no doubt my fellow bloggers will find something pro-Labour in that also?

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  • 83. At 11:23pm on 07 Oct 2009, sky_viewer wrote:

    Re 82: Very good post. Agree strongly. Last line - LOL!

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  • 84. At 11:25pm on 07 Oct 2009, sky_viewer wrote:

    Re 82: provoking such wrath - don't forget the frog a couple of weeks ago!

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  • 85. At 00:36am on 08 Oct 2009, johnholyer wrote:

    The term posh originates from the days of the Cunard liners that sailed between England and India. In order to avoid the sun passengers booked cabins that were orientated port out and starboard home [POSH]. These cabins came at a premium and only wealthy passengers could afford them.

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  • 86. At 00:48am on 08 Oct 2009, johnholyer wrote:

    re #79: No sorry, your blanket explanation defies common sense. Your explanation may apply in some cases. But most people are also capable of assessing a situation based on the evidence of fact before them and not simply on their prior experience and belief as you suggest.

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  • 87. At 08:31am on 08 Oct 2009, foxdarryl wrote:

    I like the show but... Don't ruin it by trying to be clever. Scowling at anybody remotely Tory or patriotic to England. And fawning and overly enthusiastic to luvvies and left wingers.
    Adrian, you should know better. Remember what type of show this is. Your not politcal commentators. Don't try to be.

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  • 88. At 09:05am on 08 Oct 2009, Miaoucat wrote:

    Re. 85 - that's the common conception, John, but purists claim it not to be so .... although I haven't heard them give a better explanation. Just as PGL doesn't REALLY stand for "Parents Get Lost" - does it?

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  • 89. At 09:11am on 08 Oct 2009, highland fling wrote:

    Agree with posts 40 41 and especially post 82 !!well said!!the usual moaners on here tonight in full flow!!and post 69 I have repeated the same words so often to a certain person !it makes no difference!
    Strange we saw the difference when Adrian and Christine had there break everyone( Well not the usual subjects)missed them and wanted them back ?!The Irish people will certainly not be happy at insulting there accent !and I love Giles ,and agree with post 2 !Nice to see new bloggers on here ,we need more!

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  • 90. At 09:46am on 08 Oct 2009, johnholyer wrote:

    re #89: highlandfling,

    The question of why people like me watch The One Show continues to haunt you. I have answered you several times. But you do not listen. On this occasion I leave it to hockeykokeyalex to speak for me. Please see his #54 above.

    You continuously deride the "moaners". But can you not see that by doing this you also become a moaner. You moan about the moaners. Is that not rather unfair of you? It is certainly pointless.

    PS I notice that your exclamation marks are back.

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  • 91. At 09:58am on 08 Oct 2009, johnholyer wrote:

    re #54 hockeykokeyalex,

    I am sorry not have replied before.

    What do you mean the The One Show has a southeast/London bicycle?
    Sorry, I have just re-read that. You said bias. No, I cannot recall you having mentioned that before. My memory is not what it was. In fact I cannot remember what it was. As one gets older three things start to happen. The first is that you start to lose your memory...... I can't remember what the other two are. [OK it's an old joke, but I like it].

    Keep up the fight!

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  • 92. At 10:32am on 08 Oct 2009, astroplums wrote:

    Re 90 Johnhlyer

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  • 93. At 10:34am on 08 Oct 2009, astroplums wrote:

    Re 90 Johnholyer

    "PS I notice that your exclamation marks are back".

    Oh! you purist,you!

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  • 94. At 10:54am on 08 Oct 2009, johnholyer wrote:

    re #93: astroplums,

    'purist' -"Someone who insists on great precision and correctness (especially in the use of words)".

    Thank you. I accept that as a compliment.

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  • 95. At 11:22am on 08 Oct 2009, TerryS wrote:

    In message #24 'ironroyboy' wrote:
    "From his childish comments regarding David Cameron is Adrian Chiles inferring that he, as good socialist,has never drunk champagne."

    Without wishing to sound pedantic, I think you mean "implying", not "inferring" ... sorry! However, I totally agree with the rest of your posting.

    With regard to other comments above, I have no particular fondness for either Adrian Chiles or Gyles Brandreth. In their own ways they are equally annoying and irritating.

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  • 96. At 11:24am on 08 Oct 2009, Johnfrum wrote:

    There was a multiple whip called a cat of nine tails. Hence the term
    " swing a cat"

    Johnfrum

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  • 97. At 11:28am on 08 Oct 2009, Johnfrum wrote:

    Would n't it be funny if Adrian Chiles actually voted conservative and had merely fallen into a jokey habit?

    Johnfrum

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  • 98. At 11:31am on 08 Oct 2009, jadedoldie wrote:

    highland fling, please don't take offence, but do you not realise that your constant championship of the presenters, no matter what their behavior and/or their appearance,is equally irritating.

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  • 99. At 11:34am on 08 Oct 2009, TerryS wrote:

    In message #85 'johnholyer' wrote:
    "The term posh originates from the days of the Cunard liners that sailed between England and India. In order to avoid the sun passengers booked cabins that were orientated port out and starboard home [POSH]. These cabins came at a premium and only wealthy passengers could afford them."

    Sorry, but this is an 'urban myth'. Many people have tried to find evidence to support this explanation of POSH, however, to the best of my knowledge, no such evidence exists. It is now thought that it was dreamt up retrospectively and subsequently popularised, but sadly it appears to be untrue.

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  • 100. At 11:44am on 08 Oct 2009, johnholyer wrote:

    re: 99 But I like Urban Myths. I have got all his CDs.

    It was not Cunard but P & O.

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  • 101. At 11:45am on 08 Oct 2009, SkinMechanix wrote:

    This show is becoming silly.

    On three occasions this week I've switched over to Channel 4 to watch their news programme because I couldn't stand the obvious political leanings of Mr. Chiles. I naively thought that the BBC were not supposed to show bias. Next time you have David Cameron on the show, I suspect that Mr. Chiles will be seen tugging at his forelock, "Giv 'us an MBE, Dave. I support WBA." In other words, his usual groveling, toadying self.

    And please ask Ms. Bleakley's to just shut up for once in a while. Her constant interruptions mean that the show is like listening to kids arguing in a playground - "Me! Me! Me!" All noise and no substance.

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  • 102. At 12:23pm on 08 Oct 2009, echops wrote:

    Adrian Chiles needs to stick to football! He's fat, ugly, rude and gets in way!

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  • 103. At 12:40pm on 08 Oct 2009, RoyTonyADams wrote:

    Not only has no room to swing a cat - nothing to do with the animal cat but refers to the cat-o-nine tails, but, the expression cat of the bag has the same origin: the "cat" was kept in a red canvas bag(so that it didn't show the bloodstains)- if the bad secret is discovered this would cause the cat to be let out of the bag. Can I suggest that someone at the show puts Brewers phrase and fable and similar books on the xmas present list for Arthur Smith?

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  • 104. At 1:00pm on 08 Oct 2009, jwelshman wrote:

    If I am not mistaken Adrian Chiles is half Croatian. Not exactly a good pedigree for democracy. I am originally from a Welsh mining village and proud of my background. I have never had any problems mixing with public school pupils because my state grammar school education was as good as theirs. Unfortunately the decline in education, thanks to Labour and New Labour, has nurtured class distinction by nincompoops like Adrian and Christine.

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  • 105. At 1:34pm on 08 Oct 2009, alaneng1 wrote:

    The blatant political prejudice of Chiles, in particular, and Bleakley was a disgrace to the supposedly impartial BBC. It's time for them to go !
    No doubt Chiles dogmatic left wing socialist credentials will unfortunately endear him to a highly paid job in the BBC but must he be shown on our screens? Half an hour was bad, but an hour is intolerable. I'm now an ex-viewer of The One Show and will remain so until Chiles is removed from our screens.

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  • 106. At 1:46pm on 08 Oct 2009, NortheastIrene wrote:

    The naked political bias displayed by Adrian Chiles was an absolute disgrace ! This man should be sacked by the BBC ! I for one will not watch him again and I urge other viewers who prefer their programmes to be impartial to do the same.
    Chiles is a boring sycophant with guests which is bad enough...but pushing his leftie political agenda on to us is simply too much. Doesn't the BBC charter require impartiality in political leanings? Get rid of Chiles please...he's just another inept overpaid nobody !

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  • 107. At 1:46pm on 08 Oct 2009, highland fling wrote:

    Jade , I dont always agree with the presenters or the show !!another few exclamation marks for johnholyer! guess we just irritate each other ?no offence! and yes people should watch the show each night , but waiting for an improvement? try five with Melinda Messanger now that needs improving!

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  • 108. At 1:49pm on 08 Oct 2009, Asif011 wrote:

    Now the BBC use the hapless Chiles as a stooge to push their left wing agenda. Deplorable ! And please find someone more interesting than Chiles and his giggling woman assistant...they are hopeless as well as irritating !

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  • 109. At 2:00pm on 08 Oct 2009, kenafc wrote:

    Just to register my objection to Adrian Chiles and his childish outbursts about the Tories. Or is he a Tory secret weapon? I bet he's turned thousands of people off Labour (if they have any supporters left other than the hard-liners) with his bitter comments about the Tories.
    I know the BBC don't take any notice of comments like these, but it makes me feel better. Chiles has also given me an extra hour in the evening free time...I certainly won't be watching him in future. Thanks, Adrian !

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  • 110. At 2:13pm on 08 Oct 2009, kenafc wrote:

    Doesn't Adrian Chiles drink champagne...no doubt paid for by the BBC ? You can buy champagne for £10 a bottle at ASDA...hardly the drink of a toff ! Anyway, to the rest of us, Chiles himself is an overpaid champagne socialist..drives a Bentley etc. Presumably this is why he presents the show with the equally inept Christine whats-her-name..they certainly have no ability...and at least David Cameron has charisma...(look it up Adrian...working class oiks like us don't understand such words).
    I feel sorry for WBA fans, having to put up with Adrian at home games...he is a real misery ! New presenters please if you want to keep an audience !

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  • 111. At 2:24pm on 08 Oct 2009, alaneng1 wrote:

    The vacant Adrian Chiles gets paid huge sums to stare at a cue card and read his lines in a monotone, only becoming animated when he can turn to his favourite past-time...Tory baiting. I suspect the reaction from viewers will be to turn viewers off Chiles (and his gormless, airhead girlfriend Bleakley), and evoke support for the Tories. It does with me, although I (like all sane voters) will be voting for anyone but Labour at the next election anyway.

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  • 112. At 2:28pm on 08 Oct 2009, NortheastIrene wrote:

    It seems The One Show has changed from a light entertainment programme to a party political broadcast for far left Labour supporters, thanks to Chiles and Bleakley. I propose that the programme is cut to 30 minutes and finds new presenters who have personality and can focus on delivering entertainment rather than propoganda ! Shocking, even by left wing BBC standards.

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  • 113. At 2:48pm on 08 Oct 2009, niceelstevo wrote:

    i was surprised to hear 'nay' horrified, at the rather barbaric suggestion that 'not enough room to swing a cat' derived from some mediaeval archery practise session for blind archers involving stringing up our feline friends on some kind of rotary shooting gallery,as reported by your colleague.
    I prefer the suggestion that the term is indeed a nautical one and comes from the time when dissident crewmen ( normally pressganged crew at that) needed firm discipline. Hence the introduction of the 'Cat of nine tails' whip. As there was an inordinate amount oif rigging on these old sail ships a space would need to be found which would not hinder the whips arch during its use. Hence the expression.
    Any space that would impede the whip was deemed not to have enough room to swing the 'CAT' of nine tails

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  • 114. At 3:00pm on 08 Oct 2009, astroplums wrote:

    #104 & #111

    Critical analysis is one thing, downright ignorance is another. If those posts can do little better than vent their spleens with personal insults then perhaps they ought to look at themselves before criticising others.

    The flurry of posts with similar tone, but different name, suggests to me that several (not all) of the last 10 posts may actually be written by the same person.

    Churlish, childlike drivel.

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  • 115. At 3:00pm on 08 Oct 2009, sky_viewer wrote:

    Decided to see how things were going a day later - I think last night's show now beats the 'Frog Edition' for the award of never having heard so much about so little by so many. I'm still with post 882 and agree with highland.

    Hearing what presenters or others have to say about any subject is part of the show. I don't think that Christine would be particularly loony-left politically.

    Re getting so worked up about one political side or the other... please!! Find something else to worry about - I won't add stress to my life and make myself even more ill than I already am by worrying about a bunch of deeplorable crooks, because that's what politicians are, as a whole. What did I say when the expenses scandal broke? I said 'Told you so'. It was no surprise to me. And, for all the Tory-lovers, I see that awful character Eric Pickles has just been on the One O'clock News (to give but one example)... complain about that being given air-time if you want something to complain about - this is the guy who was on the infamous Question Time edition with Margaret Beckett et al, and to whom Dimbleby gave the 'like a normal job' remark when he was trying to justify the disgraceful timebehaviour of the MPs by saying that as an MP you had to start work on time etc. He should have been kicked out with the rest of them.

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  • 116. At 3:05pm on 08 Oct 2009, sky_viewer wrote:

    Re above- that's post 82 of course,,, though we may reach post 882 before the blog goes quiet!

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  • 117. At 3:12pm on 08 Oct 2009, sirHandlebars wrote:

    Iw ould like to concur with all bloggers who wrote in suprised at the bias shown to David Cameron by Adrian Childs and Christine B last night. It just highlights the left wing bias that has been present for the past few years

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  • 118. At 3:15pm on 08 Oct 2009, jadedoldie wrote:

    Post 115 for someone who would have us all be more detached, you are able to quote a fair amount of political minutiae.

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  • 119. At 4:17pm on 08 Oct 2009, largedogrose wrote:

    i enjoy the show have watched from the first show but you keep saying David Cameron is posh because of how he speaks my family speak like that its just the right way to talk so please stop saying it

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  • 120. At 4:46pm on 08 Oct 2009, sky_viewer wrote:

    Re 118: detachmen from getting all worked up over nothing & blowing situations out of all proportions; but as noted, I am not the greatest fan of politicians.

    Re 119: well, I appreciate the direct nature of the post at least - saying that most of the country talks the wrong way. I awould love to read the responses from certain bloggers on that one...

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  • 121. At 4:56pm on 08 Oct 2009, the_cleaner wrote:

    Arthur Smith needs to get his facts right with the 'origins of popular phrases'...he did get it wrong on some of them.

    Politics is not needed on the 1 Show.

    And this music should have been used on the Jet item:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0WCQadt864

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  • 122. At 5:00pm on 08 Oct 2009, wigglediggle wrote:

    Wow well looks like I am day late but I do agree with comments on champagne we have all drunk it at some point for xmas celebrations it can be expensive I also agree with the comment about adrian getting on his high horse about it when he gets few million of our licence fee. So its a bit like the pot calling the kettle black as for biase I am not getting into that one as I think all MPs and partys are the same. They all promise so much and we all end up left out in the end. And no im not voteing next election it wont change things for me and before you ask did it change for those that voted last time have a good evening. And ask adrian to give me a lift in his bentley next time he is in the midlands lol.

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  • 123. At 7:31pm on 08 Oct 2009, serjanus wrote:

    That man Chiles is utterly foul and I really resent paying toward his bloated wages. I fact I am seriously considering not renewing my licence. I've had enough of the BBC.

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  • 124. At 7:31pm on 08 Oct 2009, smashingSwissMissy wrote:

    Regarding Hilter memorabilia ... the report was NOT correct. The card dated Christmas 1942 was NOT an invitation for Hitler's Christmas party but rather a card stating, that Hitler sends them a Christmas present from a foreign country or an occupied area and that he hopes that they accept the gift.
    I do NOT agree with collecting anything to do with Hitler, but please ensure that you reports are done correctly.

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  • 125. At 12:47pm on 09 Oct 2009, bwwyattearp wrote:

    Adrian Chiles looks for all the world like a grumpy child about to stamp his feet. Especially when someone says something with which he obviously disagrees. Perhaps you could tell him that it is OK in this country ( st the moment) to have differing views to his own.

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