What did you think of The One Show? Guests: Vic Reeves and Bob Mortimer
Angelica Bell went to find out if working class communities are being misrepresented by reality TV. Who's your working class TV hero? Del Boy, Steptoe... or? Continue the conversation, below. Following an outbreak of E. coli in Wrexham North Wales earlier this month, Anita Rani delved into just how clean our restaurants are and what measures are in place to protect the public from food poisoning. For more advice on food safety, go to our more information page. Mike Dilger introduced us to the Glis Glis - a breed of edible mouse - that can only be found in the Chilterns. And finally our very own street barber Michael Douglas took to London's Cabman's Shelters to give cabbies a crop and stop for a chat. Also: Loch Ness monster seen on Google Earth? Take a look at an external news site.
Myleene and John were joined in the studio by comedians Vic Reeves and Bob Mortimer.
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Is John sitting on a cushion? Monday and yesterday he looked somewhat shorter than Myleene and now is the same height.
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No he was sitting on myleenes make up bag lol
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Del Boy will always be my favourite working class hero and in the current economic times I'm seeing a few more Del Boys pop up here and there!
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Barbara Havers, the sidekick of the upper class Inspector Linley, Elizabeth George's character is my real working class hero- she works hard while her mother has alzheimers and has nothing to back her up- she has a really hard working-life life, with no 'benefit' from the state or her local Social Services. Good on yer, Barbara!
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Jeremy Kyle is filmed in Manchester, not Norfolk!
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Oscar the grouch on sessemie street was a legend I would be angry if I lived in a bin
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My Favourite working class hero was Citizen Smith
POWER TO THE PEOPLE!
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You absolutely cannot beat Steptoe & Son!
The episode where Steptoe stands in the bath drying himself on a net curtain in full view of the nosy neighbours never fails to make me laugh. Everyone should watch it!!!!
:D
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Re comment 5. I am Petra Greenwood of Bridport, Dorset!
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Del does seem the obvious choice I suppose, but my real wokring class heroes are those guys on Trawlermen. What an amazing program and dangerous job just to have a bit of fish on your plate....reall heroes !
Dan Murphy
New Eltham
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the best working class hero is Jack Duckworth coronation st....
gives what he gets and enjoys his pint at the local...
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Del Boy trotter is the greatest working class hero portrayed.
The dialogue used in only fools and horses was as real as it gets.
The program also contained comic genius whilst not taking anything away from the reality of the characters.
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Steptoe and Son where Albert uses the Flash to hide his privates is really the film Steptoe and Son, not an episode. Thanks for voting though. Steptoe and Son Appreciation Society.
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My working class hero has to be Del Boy, constantly optimistic, always pursuing his dream of becoming a millionaire and smashing chandeliers. I think more of todays working class should adopt his attitude to work and business....as he always said 'he who dares rodders, he who dares!' We need more Del Boys and less Wayne and Waynetta Slobs!
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It's a Trotter for me - but Rodney for a change! He's aware & loyal to his roots, has the morales to try & keep Del-Boy on the straight & narrow and has 2 GCEs after all!
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Anyone seen the film Billy Liar? Working class hero classic!
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I was gona suggest Alan Titchmarsh, but he's more of a working 'grass' hero....
boom boom !!
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I was gona suggest Alan Titchmarsh, but he's more of a working 'grass' hero....
boom boom !!
Oops..sorry...frgot me name
Dan Murphy again New Eltham
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Paul McGann as The Monocled Mutineer for TV's Greatest Working Class Hero - showing courage and inspiration to survive the trenches, and reminding us of those working class men who were did not have such a great war.
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It was great to see Ray and Alan again after all these years. Thank you BBC for interviewing them again. Love you! Steptoe and Son Appreciation Society.
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Tom Goode from the Good Life has to be my working class hero. Happy to live life how he wants to, no matter how obscure it may seem to the neighbours and above all, happy to mix with others from all different social classes!
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good old alf garnet,good old england miss themmm both
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How long has it been since I started the society? 20 years? No! Oh praise The Steptoe and Son Appreciation Society.
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Steptoe and Son. Pathos, in a 30 minute show. Does Eastenders give you that?
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What about Randall and Hopkirk 2000? Bring it back!
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Working class hero - Norman Wisdom, no question!
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My Working class hero without a doubt has to be Billy Connolly.
What an achievement, going from the ship yards in Glasgow to where he is now.
He is the ultimate working class hero. And should be recognised as a great achievement for Scotland.
Duncan.
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Jesus John pls retire u seem confused on live TV
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Good old John Seargant a national treasure
but a presenter.............not in a million years !
Myleene you're very good but try to go easy on the old war paint girl ! x
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Car crash TV at its worst-when A and C have another week off let some of the in-house people present the show-Lucy and Anita would be fine-Phil's sense of humour might let him down,Dom is hunting down scroungers on day-time TV, and the GP is rather manic-she might spontaneously combust-working class hero-Frank from Shameless-lets have a party!
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Why is that you never see John Sergeant, and Jo Brand in the same room together, we believe they are one & the same, does anyone think the same.
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The biggest working class heroes are the gallager brothers, no-one else is worth the time of day. They crawled out of a council estate to get to where they are now. And the comment above me is funny ha ha.
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everyone talks about the old heros but what about the modern working-class heroes like in gavin and stacy and the office or extras?
also we can all focus on the negative aspects of shameless - but there is love and redemption in those shows.
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Definately Del Boy/Rodney/Trigger are the best. Also Steptoe & Son.
Billy Connolly is the best non-fictional working-class hero.
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my working class hero is the one and only fred dibnah. bigsamham.
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John Sergeant is truly awful! The man can hardly read his autocue never mind interact with or have any knowledge about the shows guests or topics. Cringe worthy!!!
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Has myleene got animals teeth from the muppets
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John Sergeant is truly awful! All he is doing is sitting struggling to read an autocue. This is not presenting. Completely cringe worthy!
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Didnt want to jump on the bandwagon, but watching Jon and Mylene trying to interview Vic and Bob was cringe-worthy...when are Adrian and Christine back ?? And dont let them take any more hoidays !!
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I am not a fan of Vic Reeves but I have to commend him for his tolerance of John Seargant. I supported John during his strictly tour and have admired his journalistic work but he is diabolical as a presenter on the ONE SHOW! Myleene is carrying him, as he is unnatural, far too serious even with his satirical humour and was quite rude last night when he interupted Linda Robson and Guest mid sentence! Please, please, please do not put him on again - I will have to stop watching this week as it is soooo painful. Well done Myleene - you have proved a true professional to smooth the waters and keep the flow going!
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And she reads the autocue with no emotion at all perhaps its to many adverts shes done or perhaps she needs to hold a bottle of shampoo lol
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Well that was an uncomfortable 1/2 hour....Awful guests who came across very snobbish. Maybe not a good idea to talk about the working class with two guests who obviously think they are above everybody else. I like John as a presenter, Myleene is awful, always SHOUTING and a bit too happy....! BBC please bring back the trusted Adrian and Christine asap.....
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Please hurry back Christine and Adrian!!how Mylene Klass has been asked to present all those shows will forever be a mystery!!did she get her teeth whitened especially for one show??Christine on tonight BBC 2 10 o clock with Vic Reeves and ghastly Ulrika!!
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Del-Boy isn't working class; he doesn't sell his labour, he's an independent trader. And Albert Steptoe is a small business man. They're both self-employed (or in Del's case self-unemployed).
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Next time A & C are off why not try Gethin and Myleene together, they would be a glamourous couple to watch and both have quite an easy going approach to presenting - this show does not call for old fashioned serious presenting - it calls for a natural chatty, casual approach!
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Well I hope the presenters read the blog all we can do is keep telling them they have made the wrong choices by picking people who are always on tv. And picking the working class was a bad idea when you are you get the false myleene klass talking about it.
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35-lets not go too far-the prog and these messages gives us lots of laughs and frankly I am surprised many of our comments are not deleted by the censor-as Dick Emery might say-John and Myleene, you are awful but we like you!
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No myleene got her teeth whitened she must be doing a tooth paste advert next or she works part time on the underground straped to the front of the train.
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What's wrong with John Sergeant? He looks totally uncomfortable and out of place on this programme. He's a stiff as a board and lacking any kind of spontaneity or charm. If it wasn't for Myleene's cheery and bubbly personality (not to mention her high eye candy value)the show would be a complete disaster. Get rid of him quick! Hurry back Adrian this guy is ruining your spot.
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Oz played by Jimmy Nail in Aufedersein Pet, no airs and graces, always up for making a bob or two, my second hero has to be both
Del Boy, and Rodders, I can still hear Del's voice, This time next year Rodney, we'll be millionaires!
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When are these pair presenting the brit awards they would top sam fox and mick fleetwood
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I watch the one show most days, but this week has been painful! John and Myleen have been dreadful all week, but todays show takes the biscuit! The discussion on THOSE working class people was a disgrace, am I mistaken in thinking that Vic and Bob were embassessed by the discussion. Comments such as 'those people' 'sink estates', what nonsense.
What makes someone working class, is it that they have to work for a living, that would mean most of us, even journalists! Or is it someone who lives in social housing.
Please explain to me someone, perhaps Myleen knows?
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Well I think they use working class as an easy subject i dought myleene knows we are to low down for her to be bothered.
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the link to find out how your local eating places score re hygene is not working
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Autocue Mylene, and startled rabbit Gethin ??you are having a laugh??surely!the woman has no personality and is trying to hard !Lucy would have been better this week .people just groan now when they hear Mylene is presenting again !!please never again!
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I agree with highlandfling why do they pick myleene is it because she is not on tv enough like that will ever happen what next the myleene show. I think people think we all like her and reading the past few days comments the latter is the case.
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ecoli clip on to nights show if all companys valued and put cleaning as priority in their work place i feel out breaks would be kept to a min.i have been a cleaner for 13 years and take my job seriously and get mad when we are always the first to have our supplys cut when budgets ending financial year.we are at the momment been privatised with the council to save money so i feel we will have to lower are standards through resraints out of our control eg time,money and staff cut backs.cleaners need to be treated better, respected and trained better to give a good standard of hygiene.
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Watched Christine on Vic Reeves BBC2 she was wonderful!!looking great and far better than Ulrika !!!well done !
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Both your presenters, whoever they are looked very uncomfortable when Bob Mortimer inferred that 'we are all come from the working classes' or words to that effect, you could see them squirm, especially the old boy. Can you really categorize people in this way, typical BBC middle class snobbery if you ask me, see I'm at it as well, putting people in boxes but then again that's what the BBC mindset is and if you dare go outside one of their 'perfect human being containers' as illustrated by the example of the likes of Maggie Thatchers daughter, you get the whole BBC media Mafia coming down on you like a ton of bricks, restricting both freedom of thought and speech. What did I hear a guy on radio 4 say last night 'if you stay in a job too long you become arrogant and don't listen to people' just about sums up the BBC, about time they had a change and closed the whole monolithic monopoly down.
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There is clearly some disagreement about what makes someone working class. 'Contented' and 'dynamicSandra' both suggested the Marxist definition (someone who sells their time or their labour) but only economists are that strict.
The boundary between what used to be called 'respectable working-class' and the lower middle class is extremely hazy, but that is where the Steptoes lived; Tom (the Good Life) is clearly middle-middle; working-class people, in the main, do not 'do' self-sufficiency nowadays (except perhaps by keeping an allotment) but certainly not in the manner in which Tom and Barbara did.
On TV, I think one of the best portrayals of working-class qualities, both good and bad, was in Paul Shane's character Ted Bovis, the comic in 'Hi-de-Hi'. The character, as written by David Croft and Jimmy Perry, was thoroughly working-class himself and, to his credit, understood his working-class audience (this was brilliantly illustrated during his frequent exchanges with the character played by Simon Cadell). The Ruth Madoc character (Gladys Pugh) is quintessential provincial lower middle-class, by the way.
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My working class hero's were Bob and Terry 'The Likely lads' cos they were truly working class. Much as I love Del Boy Trotter he was more a wide boy - Rodney was the working class hero there.
I also enjoyed the Liver Birds!
'The Office' would be the best comedy series for the working class featuring a romance that kept you on your seat. Two pints of lager and a packet of crisps is one of the funnier new series.
I do think that we need more comedy series for working class cos most series seem to feature almost a Terry and June like quality eg 'The Family' which I have never found that funny. Much prefered Robert Lindsay as Wolfie Smith...........still those were the good old days.
Although one series which I thought was brillantly written and acted and portrayed the working class was 'Open all hours'
Lets get back to those sort of comedies featuring working class .... as working!
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A Bouquet to "The One Show" producers for getting it perfectly right! John and Myleene make Fab hosts / presenters on "The One Show" and there is alot of sizzle, giggles and magic there! A Grrrr8 Duo and I am luving it!! As for Vic and Bob they are Fabulous - you are never too old to have fun! I believe there is an inner child within us all and that what keeps me young at heart! Keep up the good work! With Luv, Light and much Laughter Donna Africa xxx [Unsuitable/Broken URL removed by Moderator]
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My working class hero must be the british rock and roll/pop singer from the late 50s early 60s Billy Fury.
He came from working class roots im liverpool, after leaving school he started working in an engineering factory, then entertaining day trippers on mersey tug boats singing/guitar while working as a deck hand.
He then gained fame and went on to have many top ten chart entries from 1959.
Roy
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Aah! Thank you, swinkle, for mentioning Terry and Bob in The Likely Lads. Yes, in the first series they were true working-class characters. However, it was in the sequel ("Whatever happened to...") that the series achieved its true brilliance, because now you had class differences, the driving force behind most of our greatest sitcoms. For Terry, the clock had stopped when he joined the army, and he hoped to just pick up his life where he left off, when he got discharged five years later. However Bob had moved on, and had become lower middle-class both by his employment and his aspirations, spurred on by Thelma his fiancée, although a kernel of his working-class origins still remained. The conflicts both between them and within Bob's character made for a brilliant, though somewhat dark sitcom.
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Mylene Klass stop patronising people.
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The apparently fantasticlly intelegent Miss.Klass makes another classic screw up when she anounced Jeremy Kyle was filmed in Norfolf with a massive self satisfied grin! In filmed in Manchester Love!
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The apparently fantasticlly intelegent Miss.Klass makes another classic screw up when she anounced Jeremy Kyle was filmed in Norfolf with a massive self satisfied grin! Its filmed in Manchester Love!
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John Sargent was down right rude to Vic & Bob. He needs to learn some manners. It was cringeful to watch.
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I agree John was just plain unfunny to Vic and Bob.
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Post 34.The biggest working class heroes are the gallager brothers, no-one else is worth the time of day. They crawled out of a council estate to get to where they are now.
Your avin a laugh. They are still quite obviously from an estate (as I am) but in manner and conduct have not progressed with wealth. On top of which their (music?) is common place and repetitive. Got one album? Got them all. Talent? No just luck and how it is abused.
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Working class hero's? Wat Tyler, James Brine, James Hammett, George Loveless, George's brother James Loveless, George's brother in-law Thomas Standfield, and Thomas's son John Standfield, the Tolpuddle Martyrs.
They changed the world. What will you do? There are few modern equivalents as we have become complacent but there may be one. One man that stands out from the crowd. Peter Davies Mayor of Doncaster. Honest and upstanding for the people. I commend him. Celebrities? ten a penny.
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Hello all! This is my first ever blog so please please can you read it out on tonights one show and say Hi to my 2 year old daughter who every night at 7pm says "one show on please!"and she always gets what she wants!!!
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Tut Tut--look at all the bitchy comments about Mylene. a sure indication that shes GOOD, as well as gorgeous. As for working with John Sargeant,the poor girl got no support at all, he was asleep, or gazing about the studio, not consentrating at all. As for those two drips calling themselves 'comedians', how embarrassing they are. At this time of posting, all the revues of their so-called show have been consistent-- regurgitated rubbish !
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I am not a fan of John Sargeant, but he DEFINITELY went up in my estimation when he suggested that Reeves & Mort's 'Shooting Stars' was "childish".
Talk about a bit of refreshing accuracy in the show, instead of the sycophantic grovelling tripe we get from Mr Chiles.
'Shooting Stars' IS tripe, as I actually forced myself to watch it. As a licence fee payer, I like to think I can recognise publically-funded tripe when I see it, so John Seargeants reference to their show as being 'Childish' was really an understatement.
All I can say is that Mr Reeves & Mr Mortimer are not to my taste, and that perhaps the CBBC-channel would be a more appropriate slot for their offerings.
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