What did you think of the show? Guest: Peter Capaldi
Today's guest on The One Show was actor Peter Capaldi, star of The Thick of It.
Christopher Biggins asked whether big really is beautiful. Share your stories.
Mike Dilger was back at Tiggywinkles, the wildlife rescue centre in Aylsebury, where he caught up with Spud the hedgehog's progress.
Journalist Adam Shaw looked at the history of the privatisation of big institutions.
And our ethical expert Lucy Siegle, was in Kent, visiting the biggest hydroponic centre in the UK.
Plus: Watch this week's The One Show Web Show, with behind-the-scenes footage from Adrian and Christine's ABBA spoof.
What did you think of the show?
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What is the point of rescuing injured deer? The population is increasing rapidly and there are regular culls, so while some are saved perfectly healthy ones are shot. Butchers can sell all the venison they can get.
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Well, we're not allowed to die from smoking, then they started at us about alcohol and binge drinking, and now we're not allowed to die from the food we eat or obesity! I suppose it's OK to die from cancer or heart disease because, let's face it, those particular diseases keep the pharmaceutical companies going! Grown adults don't need to be told off like this - we are well aware of what we're doing to ourselves. People with addictions need support and understanding, not discrimination!. When will people realise that the No.1 killer is STRESS???
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Where do these 'experts' come from ? A dietitian on Christopher Biggin's section tonight claimed that 'obesity' is a disease ! It is a physical state, an artificial division, whatever, but a disease it is not. No wonder people turn off from any talk about fat - it does not seem possible to discuss fat as an issue without someone going over the top to give larger people more to worry or obsess about.
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I would not discriminate against fat people, and I'm glad that those who are so are happy with it. But the question Is big beautiful? has only one answer: No.
(Not a good advert for fat people tonight either with both Corden and Biggins appearing.)
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The latest research shows that the BMI is a useless way to measure a healthy weight. It is a fact now that people who are overweight into old age live longer than thin people because as we age we are more likely to develop serious illness and the overweight have an ample supply of nutrients to see them through whereas the thin ones just do not and have a nuch greater vrisk of dying.
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The woman from the Adam Smith Institute said that privatisation brought improved services. Has she been to her nearest large DIY store recently and tried to find a member of staff to help? Is she blissfully unaware of, or choosing to ignore perhaps, the incredible waste of public money since governments started issuing large contracts to private companies? Think NHS or HMRC and computer systems... I don't think her views should be aired without an opportunity for direct response from a counter balance - she's simply pedalling a philosophy that died with the recent economic collapse.
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Thanks for the update on Hilary Lister. Go Hilary!
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So Lucy Siegle is preaching about her eco-economics again. Am I right in thinking that she says it's better to invest massively in ways of growing food in this country that is normally sourced abroad to reduce the "carbon footprint"? Surely that's a death sentence for farmers in the poorest parts of the world that have been providing us with produce for centuries. It's rather distasteful that just at the point when fair trade has become more usual and acceptable that we decide it's better to grow it at home. How very British - now that we have to pay foreigners a fair amount we decide we'd rather pay British people instead.
Shame on you Lucy Siegle.
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Good to see Adam Shaw. But the piece should have been introduced as a short history of public ownership from '45 to '79. The railways were built and run by private industry for half of the last century and the century before that. The fire brigade was created by the insurance industry. Electricity and telephone provision were started by private enterprise. The nations hospitals were built and run by private concern well before the NHS.
The Victorians did all these things in private industry and revolutionised the country. Nationalisation was "managed decline" and destroyed the long term future of many industries while foreign private industry surpassed them in every respect. No doubt the BBC will do its best to espouse nationalisation as the bloated and corrupt BBC is in the firing line for privatisation.
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Hilary Lister is a true inspiration.
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Has your guest lost anyone to Altzeimers ? It is certainly not FUNNY
and does not mean, despite your guests view, that the sufferer is MAD.
I remain disgusted - how dare he suggest that such matters are a source
of second rate comedy.
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I am appalled that Peter Capaldi should say, about his new show, "they didn't know if she was speaking a foreign language or if she was mad" about a patient with Alzheimer's. Alzheimer's sufferers are NOT mad, nor are those suffering from any other form of dementia. They are suffering from a degenerative brain disease which is anything BUT funny. It would be great to hear Adrian or Chrstine putting this misconception to rights on tomorrow's (Thursday's) show. I'll be listening with anticipation.
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Re 5: Yes, BMI isn't always a surefire indicator (e.g. high muscle content), but for normal people, an overweight figure (25-30) and obese figure (30 and above) do show that such individuals are too heavy.
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The fanatically PC Mr. Chiles should know better than to refer to, and I quote, "mental hospitals"!
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Elderly people, and young, deserve respect, no matter what their mental state may be, non of us know what the future holds for us, we may develop Alzheimer's ourselves one day, lets hope we get a sympathetic nurse, who does not poke fun at us by calling us mad.
Not all overweight people are greedy, I gave up the fags 16yrs ago, the old taste buds came back to life, the rest is history, I now struggle daily to keep my weight at a reasonable level.
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As a wildlife and country lover, I found the article on the wildlife rescue sanctuary interesting. However, I do think that saving EVERY animal is misguided. To consider baby grey squirrels and an ill fox aa worthy subjects for treatment is quite wrong as these are vermin and ought to be destroyed. Grey squirrels do not belong in this country anyway and are a prime reason for the decline of our bird population and destruction of many of our trees, not to mention almost completely wiping out our own red squirrel. Articles such as this perpetuate the myth that these animals as cuddly and harmless when nothing is further from the truth. Ask a true countryman.
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I was absolutely disgusted by the comments by the guest Peter Capaldi regarding Alzheimer's Disease. He discussed the poor lady who was speaking in a foreign language and he commented about this saying that nobody understood her due to the foreign language or if she was just mad. The disease is an illness and using the term mad is entirely out of order.
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Intro music fades away
Camera on Adrian
His first words
Observe -
All we can hope of tonights guest
Is that he does his best
To mind his language
(Or words to that effect)
We learn
That his Ps and Qs are OK, fine
But his Fs at times
Can be right out of line
You do know swearing isnt clever or grown up
Dont you
Says Adrian to actor Peter Capaldi
This evenings One show personality
Who it seems is already in The thick of it (get it?)
Before he has even opened his mouth
Peter proceeds to tells us
That, as an actor he is just happy
To be busy
Immediately
More controversy
Is big (fat to you and me)
Beautiful, really?
Do you agree
We shall see.
Fat
Our second F word of the night
Not quite as bad as the one that
The BBC at times chooses to bleep out
But equally offensive to those to whom it refers
Who prefer
To be called big
Its no fault of theirs
Often
But forced upon them
From birth
Others who are big
It would seem just dont care
No healthy diets for them
Food is just too much fun
Despite drastically reducing their life span
Mr P Cs words of wisdom:
Eat a lot of crap
And youre going to get fat!
Back to Aylesbury
And Tiggys
To check on the progress
Of Spud, the spineless hedgy
And his or her illness
We learn that he or she was doing fine
But couldnt hog(!) the limelight this time
Now Plummet the lazy gannet
Attracted our admiring gaze
Who had to relearn normal gannet ways
It is so good to know
That such wild creatures
Had normal futures
To look forward to
Back where they belonged
In the wild
Where they were first rescued from
(A sort of vicious circle for them?)
Fond, or sad memories
As the case my be
Of old fictional Sid
Remember him
Of the P word fame
Privatisation
Ending Nationalisation
To be known by its initial N
All the gains we made then
Now turned to losses
Except for the - richly bonused for failure - bosses
Of course
Now the H word
Enters our language
Hydroponics
A new dirty word
In the mouths of the ethical purists
To join the likes of the G M words
Man wanting to be God
Messing round with nature
Bottling, enclosing and controlling everything
He can get his hands on
I fear for our future
Though omitted from the One Shows agenda
Todays breaking news is
That we, for the first time ever
Have created spermatozoa
In a test tube
What next
I darent predict
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re #4:
sky_viewer, Why so pedantic? Expose your mind to the possibility that some people may indeed find "big" beautiful.
And, before you jump to any conclusions no, I am not big/fat.
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Re Post 4 sky viewer, I am in fact fat, but fortunately and with the greatest respect, I don't give a tinker's cuss whether you think I'm beautiful or not.
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Re 20/21: no, not pedantic whatsoever. Merely giving my (very relaxed) answer to this particular question posed to One Show viewers on last night's show. That's all. Yes, some may find big beautiful, and that's their own perogative which I would not want to even criticize. Each to their own. After all, it;s no concern of mine - no one is forcing me to change my opinion. Also, if anyone is happy being overweight or even obese, then that's fine.
However, at the same time, I would also want my answer to be respected. If we look at certain industries where beautiful is the name of the game, I think there shall be found not a little amount of justification for my answer (i.e., here big is not equated with being beautiful).
See also the 'Is Big Beautiful?' specific thread for posts in agreement with what I have said, e.g. posts 5 & 12, from slef-proclaimed fat people who are not finding living with their size a bundle of laughs.
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re #22; You now say that you were in truth offering just your own opinion. Regrettably, it did not come across like that. It appeared very much as though you were speaking for all of us.
You ask for your opinion to be 'respected'. I find that hard to do. For, you see, you come across as being rather cruel and insulting to those who are overweight. You go on to say that you consider it no concern of yours whether or not people are, in your opinion, overweight. I am sure there are many people out there who will be relieved to know that.
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Re posts 4 & 22, I have scrolled back, skyviewer, and you did in fact make a statement, not express an opinion, therefore I find no reason to respect an as yet unstated opinion. By the way I re-iterate my post of 21!
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Re 23 - no concern etc.:
I did not say that - if you read what I stated you will find that I refer to others having the opinion that big is beautiful is not my concern, which it certainly is not, for the reason given.
Re 24: I stand by my answer/justification for my answer also.
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re #4 #24 & #25: skyviewer, what you said was and I quote, "But the question Is big beautiful? has only one answer: No". "Has only one answer" does not sound to me like a personal opinion. But rather a statement of what you believe to be a universal fact. A proclaimed fact that I and many others can easily refute.
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Re 26:
In post 25 I was addressing your point accusing me of having no concern that people were overweight. Again, I repeat, I did not say this - see post 25. On the contrary, it IS a matter of concern, as can be seen by the posts in the specific therad to which I referred above.
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Re 26: We do not have to be concerned about people that we believe to be overweight; just don't be cruel about it. I say again your statement, " But the question Is big beautiful? has only one answer: No." comes across as cruel. But if you do not mean what you say then you should say so.
Again, before you jump to any conclusions I am not overweight. I also suspect that I am not beautiful.
OK so much said. On balance I prefer the answer that jadedoldie gave to you at her #21.
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If you look inside an art gallery, the paintings by the old masters, the nude women are all buxom, It seems women are expected to change their body shape according to what is popular at the time, if reincarnation is possible, I'm coming back as a man next time, no PMT, no giving birth, no change of life, no HRT, I think I can swap all that for shaving my chin twice a day.
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Re 28: 'We do not have to be concerned about people that we believe to be overweight.'
You brought it up. As I said twice before, I did not - you're missing my point yet again and bringing up the point of being concerned about people being overweight (sorry - people we believe to be overweight - as it seems one is not allowed to even say someone is overweight anymore). No one has said anything yet that would make me say anything different to what I originally stated.
Now, I'm looking forward to the show tonight with Twiggy... which may cause some to think about the issue of being too thin, hoho! (And therein lie more serious health issues.)
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