What did you think of the show? (04/02/09)
We were honoured to welcome one of world's greatest interviewers to The One Show sofa, Sir David Frost.
Alistair McGowan presented a film asking whether protests make a difference? What do you think? Do protests get you anywhere? Share your views.
As part of the My Hero strand Sir David looked back over the interviews he has conducted with his hero Muhammad Ali, who he describes as a 'friend' and an 'inspiration'.
The British Academy Film Awards 2009 are only a few days away, so our reporter Clare Balding took a look at how the coveted awards are made.
Hardeep Singh Kohli visited Tipi in West Wales to meet a community who have opted out of the rat race and chosen to live in teepees.
Also: A big thanks for all your snow pictures, which are continuing to pour in. We now have well over 2,000 photos of One Show viewers having fun in the cold stuff. Check them out here.
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Hi
Just to comment on the disgraceful treatment of Carol Thatcher. Shall you name the politically correct pedant who decided to turn a private conversation into a public scandal? Private conversations should remain private and a private apology by Carol to whomever was offended should have been enough.
Jamie
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I find the fuss that is being made about Carol Thatcher's alleged mention of the word "Golliwog" to be quite ludicrous. It was, apparently, made in what was supposed to be a private conversation and I wonder who the holier-than-thou do-gooder who reported it was.
When Carol was growing up a golliwog was a much-loved trademark on every jar of the most popular marmalade in the country and the word had absolutely no unpleasant connotations whatsoever.
When one contrasts this storm in a teacup - obviously blown up by the worst type of left-wing politically correct apparatchik in your organisation -with the way in which the obnoxious Jonathan Ross escaped almost unscathed from his truly repulsive abusing of a venerable and respected actor one's comprehension of the way the BBC apparently functions one is left totally bemused.
I have always been a great respecter of the BBC and its role as a protector of all that is best about our way of life in this country. Sadly, that respect is being rapidly eroded by these two ludicrous decisions.
In my opinion Ross should be sacked and Carol should be reinstated with immediate effect. The apparatchik who created this situation should be sacked too.
anniefraser
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Totally disgusted by the pathetic attitude of the BBC and the ONE SHOW trying to be PC once again.
Surely, Carol is entitled to have a private conversation as we all should be able to,without fear of having the Gestapo (thought police) & PC brigade jumping on her back.
Why wasn't Jonathan Ross removed from all BBC programmes as a result of his inappropriate remarks. If you are going to persecute people for voicing a thought, then at least be consistent.
I am a very disappointed viewer. I have always enjoyed watching this show. In particular, I found the format and presenters of this programme very good. However, in light of this debacle and probably another storm in a teacup I will no longer be watching.
John Stephenson (Against PC in the BBC)
Thatcham
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HI Annie.
Here Here,
I couldn't have put it better myself. In fact I didn't, as my comment is after yours. I wish I was as articulate as you.
Anyway well said.
John Stephenson
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Who was the snitch?
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I am disappointed with the BBC and Adrian Childs for the treatment of Carol Thatcher. I can only concur with other writers of the double standards in this case as apposed to the Ross affair. One insulted others on air the other made a comment in private. I don’t believe Carol Thatcher is racist but I did notice how Jo Brand was very offish with her, typical armchair socialist with a foul mouth. Who ever leaked this story deserves to be outed. Adrian Childs has always appeared to me to be analy challenged. I don’t think I will be watching your program again I hope other do the same.
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Who stitched up Carol?
I'm boycotting the show so can't comment on its contents.
Goodbye, you bunch of PC bullies.
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Adrian was it you that snitched, if it was shame on you, have you NEVER said anything that was seen as being unPC?
If was Jo Brand, with the remarks she comes out with how can she stand whiter than thou? Perhaps she needs the publicity
Perhaps we should start a campaign to clear Jo Brand from the TV altogether.
Bring back Carol or start to lose more viewers. You might then find with popularity waning your programme will become redundant!
Shame on you all
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I, like many of my friends are absolutely incensed by the actions of the BBC on the firing of Carole Thatcher. Her words appear to have been taken completely out of context - she was desribing someones hair and we believe she did apologise and tried to explain why she used the word. It was an off-air conversation . GEORGE ORWELL springs to mind. To use her as an example of policical correctness after the ON AIR comments by Jonathan Ross is absolutely shameful. She is a real character and has huge support from many many people. This is wrong and NOT policitcally correct as mentioned on Radio 2 today by a 'black lady' (can I use that word) who agreed that the BBC has gone completely over the top. Please reinstate her immediately. You have treated her appaulingly and given her no chance to give us her side of the story unlike many many foul mouthed people you have on the BBC. Shame on you all. Jacqui Picken
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Interesting that on your website front page you don't include the Carol Thatcher issue in your list of 'being discussed now' topics.
What is it - too sensitive?
I agree strongly with all of the earlier comments supporting Carol and condemning both the action taken by the BBC and the invidious viper who made her comments public. I believe Carol Thatcher is a truly decent person who, like millions of us loved the golliwog character and not only collected the badges but also had them with our teddy bears as 'friends. I'd much prefer to watch Carol as a permanent presenter on One Show in place of Adrian Chiles. Perhaps he might like to make a statement in tonight's show supporting Carol's return and letting us all know who is responsible for making this public. If it was Jo Brand perhaps she'd like to apologise.
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I am appalled at the alleged actions of Adrian Childs and Jo Brand effectively "grassing up" Carol Thatcher for an innocent (and private) comment in relation to the term "Golliwog". Its the first I knew that anybody would be silly enough to even think about the term as racist - after all the Golliwog lasted for decades on Robertsons jam jars without people getting their knickers in a twist.
The whole episode just makes the BBC look silly and lose support with the public at large.
I have no regard for Childs as a presenter anyway. His presentation of "Match of the Day", on the occasions that Garry Linaker is not present, is a poor shadow of Garry's presentation. Frankly it makes me cringe. I am not keen on his co-presenter on the "One Show" either although I will concede she is a very pretty girl.
Can't the BBC find some way of putting Childs out to pasture?
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Bravo to all who have complained about the ridiculous pedant who has caused Carol Thatcher so much grief and all the BBC officials who have made such a big thing about this ( when a quiet word - if indeed one was required- would have been more than enough ) should hang their heads in shame
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Hi I so agree with everyone about the disgraceful way in which Carol has been treated. The guilty party in this is the person who ran to his/her PC minded superior, it is that person who should be sacked.
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considering some of the offensive things the BBC broadcasts without any consideration of its viewers especially from people such as so called comedians and presenters who frequently swear ,it seems a pity that a private conversation in the company of these people cannot be kept private and any offence could not be communicated direct to the person concerned and not childishly passed on to the authorities. I feel these people have branded themselves as petty and certainly no friends to the viewers. I would also like to send my kind regards to Carol Thatcher.
WE WILL NOT BE WATCHING THE SHOW AGAIN
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all of the above and more, i have never quite taken to adrian childs but this has confirmed to me why, carol thatcher is a slightly barmy person of a certain era and i don't think for one minute she would have meant any harm by her comments. another example of some jobs-worth getting involved. if a black person, in private, had said that a 'whity' had played tennis do you think there would have been this uproar? of course not, grow up bbc and apologise to carol and bring her back, i don't suppose i will hear any apology though as i won't be tuning in to the show any more,
c thomas leighton buzzard
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I shall never watch the one show again. How ridiculous? I am lost for words in relation to Carol Thatcher sacking. Adrian Childs is less than white. ‘People in Glass house should throw no stones’ .
Bina Cossar West Midlands
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Didn't necessarily agree with everything Alistair McGowan said but thoroughly enjoyed his style of presentation. Can we have him as a regular fixture, please?
Alan, Bradley Stoke
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Adrian asked Sir David for tips about being a good interviewer ''listen to what people are saying'' said Sir David.
Adrian then continually interrupted every guest, cutting them off mid sentance, adding his own opinions and generally as Hugh Grant suggested interviewing like a 9 year old.
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Dear One Show,
My wife and I are boycotting your show until Carol Thatcher is reinstated.
Tony
Huddersfield
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I am appalled at the sexist treatment afforded to Carol Thatcher. Her private comment was obviously not intended to offend, and in any case was not intended for broadcast. In that event, why has she been treated differently to Jonathan Ross who was suspended 11 (?) days after he DID broadcast lewd and disgusting comments about a young woman to an elderly gentleman's answering machine? Do the BBC think that because she's a woman, Carol Thatcher is an easy target and can be treated in this fashion?
But this is meant to be a comment on tonight's show: I am disgusted that no mention of the appalling treatment of Carol Thatcher has occasioned some sort of comment or even an apology to Carol. The BBC is wholly out of touch with what the viewing public requires of it.
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All this PC nonsense has to stop!! It is going to come back and 'bite' you one day!! Leave Carol alone for Goodness sake. You are destroying our country with this rubbish. Have you not noticed that we are getting a little fed up with it?? I am more worried about the 'stasi' snitch you have working at the BBC. It's bad enough I have to pay the boring Adrian Chilles wages without having to pay the wages of a 'snitch' as well. Carol Thatcher, like it or lump it is ENTERTAINING AND VERY WATCHABLE!!! Adrian Chilles on the other hand has a problem stringing two sentences together that are remotely interesting. I know you tried to get us interested in his 'love life' but we are not falling for that one; he is not good looking or interesting enough. Bring back Carol!!!!!!!!
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I have watched this programme since it started ,but am now very upset at the callous way in which Carol Thatcher has been ousted from the show .
What she said was in private and shoud have remained that way .
Whoever "shopped her " shoud be very very ashamed of his or herself .I have heard hat it was indeed Adrian Chiles and if this is the case he needs to grow up. He could lose the show a lot of viewers !!!!!
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I just have to comment about Carol Thatcher. Not sure what sad person complained. Its unbelievable, the BBC have really lost the plot this time. This sort of thing pushes me further towards what I have been thinking about for some time. Get rid of the tv, then you would not get a penny out of me.
Kennyp
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Why does Carole Thatcher get the sack for a private comment made off air and then David Frost is allowed to make a live comment about black peoples "natural rhythm"!!!
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I think that whatever member of the Thought Police who snitched on Carol Thatcher is a slimy little pc git. Just the kind of creature that does well in the BBC. Whoever it was should go far!
Was it you, Adrian Mr Average Chiles? Do you feel good about yourself now?
If you don't like what someone says tell them to their face and leave it at that, don't go running to your bosses, you prick, whoever you are.
Finally, I am bloody sick and tired of the witch hunt against so called racism. It was this kind of bloody self-righteous nonsense that possibly drove Jade Goody off the edge.
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hmm.. no comment about the Thatcher affair or Adrian insulting people's religion so far... I would have thought they'd get it over with at the top of the show... not normally one to dodge controversy.
Now I did say I wouldn't watch again but how could I not watchChristine.
But you have spoilt her beauty and the lovely snow pics people have been sending in, by being ugly behind the scenes. Please route out the evil within your midst to make all well again.
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During the first part of tonight's show Adrian Chiles asked viewers to comment on this website. Well, there are a lot of comments voicing displeasure at Carol Thatcher's sackings: will any of them be mentioned on the show?
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I would like to add my protest at the shabby treatment of Carol Thatcher. Was it what she allegedly said or the fact she is Margaret Thatcher's daughter? I am a member of the normally silent majority but I have watched amazed at the disparity in treatment between Jonathan Ross and Carol Thatcher. Ross has broadcast for many years using offensive, sexist remarks towards and about women. He is obsessed with details of his own sexlife which I personally do not wish to share. Yet all is broadcast because ? its edgy- what does that mean ?
Ross got a slap on the wrist but Carol Thatcher has been dismissed for an alleged private conversation. As a licence payer I want more information as to who complained? If they are prepared to leak details about Carol Thatcher at least have the courage of their convictions and go public.
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Why was Carol Thatcher reported when having a private conversation which was not being broadcast. I am quite sure she is not a racist and her comments have been taken out of context. Adrian Childs in not that great and should not have the power to have someone dismissed because he does not like them. It is like a schoolboy going to his teacher because he cannot handle the discussion himself. Surely he could have put his point of view to Carol. The BBC kept Jonathan Ross on after his comments which were aired happily by the editing team. The atmosphere at the BBC must be gastly. If you do not fit in you are immediately reported if you make one slip of the tongue. Surely, Adrian Childes has made mistakes himself.
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I am gratified that so many people feel the same way as I do about the treatment of Carol Thatcher.
The PC brigade at the BBC have struck yet again and it just shows how far removed from the views and opinions of ordinary people the corporation has become.
I personally stopped watching the Jonathan Ross show some time ago because of his appalling remarks and treatment of his guests and I used to go on rugby tours when I was younger.
It took a long time and a public outcry before he was finally disciplined and now he's back on screen - and at it again.
If you check the Oxford English dictionary you will see that the word golliwog is not classed as a contemptuous word, as opposed to the "n" word which is.
Adrian, if you were really as "right on" as you clearly think you are, you would never go to support your football team. As you do, you are complicit in the foul and abusive language at the games as reported in your book. So stop throwing stones.
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I have to concur with the general sentiment I read above, whoever snitched Carol is a disgrace, and until I am proved otherwise, I am assuming Adrian. "Private" means private.
You have lost two regulars.
Nigel.
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I am disgusted by David Frost's sweeping derogatory comment about Catholics' needing more rythm - as quoting Mohamed Ali.
Comments like this are often ignored about the Christian and Catholic faith -whereas Carol Thatcher talking about an old fashioned advertising label on jams is sacked. This country is going politically correct mad.
There are frequent occasions when members of the Muslim faith are offended in this country and they are widely televised and reported on the news.
I am offended by a flippant remark made about my Roman Catholic Faith - alluding to the Rythm and safe sex method. Unacceptable -I think Christians should be awarded more respect in this country.
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bigotsnotallowed wrote:
Regular viewer of The One Show, I was horrified to hear that Carol Thatcher had been sacked because of a harmless remark made in private. I am sure that she meant no harm by that remark, and the person who reported her was pathetic. Perhaps he/she does not like her? What is this country coming to when one has to watch extremely carefully what one says? What happened to freedom of speech?
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Absolutley appalled at the way Carol Thatcher has been treated by the BBC.
We will show how protest by NOT watching the programme or ANY show that Has Adrian Charles on it , as it appears that he's the two faced rat !!!!
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I think we should all put in a complaint to the BBC about Carol's treament. The complaints page is on the Beeb website - it just takes time to find it!
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Also funny how they have not commented on Carol Thatcher this evening while this has been on the news all day. Get a grip BBC and if you are going to be so politically correct then give Christians and equal measure of reporting and respect.
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Fully agree with all the comments condeming the childish and unpleasant bullying of Carol Thatcher. The person responsible for telling tales about a private conversation should stand up and accept the ridicule heaped upon them.
This is the very ugly face of PC gone mad.
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I have been a long terrm fan of Adrian Chiles bur an horrified to discover that he is a Politically correct individual who is willing to blow thewhistle on a prvate conversation. I grew up with a golliwog and a teddybear and have not developed into a racist nor do I hate WBA despite supporting Portsmouth.
This relevation about Adrian Chiles has caused me to stop watching the one Show which I have watched from its beginning, I cannot support the Stasi approach which Adrian seems to favour
David Hooper
Porthleven
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Love the One Show. Unfortunately am not enamoured with the way the BBC has treated Carol Thatcher.
If they are are stopping Carol Thatcher for something said off air that was just harmless then Jonathan Ross should be sacked as what he said was anything but. Very unfair.
I have fond memories of Golliwog and if someone has taken offence at the use of the word then they should look to get a life. Some people are evidently far too precious and thin skinned these days. Where is this all going to end. It's pathetic.
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Carol Thatcher - Yes we all feel very strongly about the disgusting attitude of the BBC. How on earth can so many pompous individuals dare to expect an appology for such a loving and harmless comment. Adrian, if you are involved in any way you should be ashamed of yourself. It is now the responsibility of the BBC to go cap in hand to Carol - agree to their mistake - and beg her forgiveness.
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No great fan of Ms Thatcher, but really!! Get a grip BBC and get a life whoever snitched. Please Miss!!!
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Why have all the messages supporting Carol from yesterday been deleted?
Why no access to the comments on yesterday's show?
Will you be deleting today's comments which are (again) 100% behind Carol?
The repellant Adrian is damaged goods until you sort this fiasco out. "Friendly man of the people"? Pull the other one.
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We are very very very dissapointed in the comment that Carol Thatcher may be racist. Whatever people say in private, in your case off air, should be treated as private. In the case of this instance for somebody to report it and cause her to be suspended from the show is nothing less than ludicrus. I do not understand what the issue here is and I am sure that there are other issues in the world that do take precidence over a matter of a private comment. As far as I am aware we are still living in a free country and are entitled to our own opinions albeit in private. We have been watching the One Show since the day it started and now feel that if Adrian has, it has been suggested, had anything to do with this nonsense then I am not sure that we will carry on watching.
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I would like to add my weight to Annie's views above and the unanimous criticism of the BBC for the treatment of Carol Thacher.
As a professional journalist with excellent presentation skills she is light years ahead of that yob who has just been reinstated to do the Saturday morning Radio 2 show and the so called premier chat show on BBC 1 on Friday evenings.
It beggar's belief that the corporation that tells us it is our BBC, can be so out of touch with standards of good taste, so inconsistent in its policy and so lacking in good judgement.
rogerph100
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with regard carol thatcher i agree with the majority of comments and I find here treatment totally out of preportion to what she said in PRIVATE. I was a regular to the show but no more .More balance in the way people are treated i.e J Ross & Carol Thatcher.
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Thank goodness Carol Thatcher has gone. But now only a day later we have a guest making comments about blacks having all the natural rhythm when it is catholics who need it. How many racial/religious slurs can be made on one show in the space of days? Something is wrong somewhere.
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I am deeply disgusted by your treatment of Carol Thatcher. It was fairly obvious from the "body language " of Jo Brand, who was probably responsible for this state of affairs.
The tennis player in question does have a hair style that can only be best described as being like a Golliwog. Thats a fact and NOT a rascist remark.
Compared with some of the offensive remarks that we have to endure from Jo Brand, Yasmin Alibiah Brown about the Queen, the alledged comment from Carol T is insignificant.
What can be worse than the behaviour from Jonathon Ross and the language from Gordan Ramsay. And their actions, we have to endure ON SCREEN.
If the BBC are trying to justify the Licence Fee then this is not the way.
The way you are all going ,I am looking forward to the future years when we shall all not have to pay.
No I am not a member of the BNP and would never join.
I stand for fairness and common sense.
Get real.
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Carol Thatcher has lost her One Show job thanks to some BBC snitch. If the conversation was with Mr Chiles we can only then imagine that he was the source of the leak.
Surely a private conversation should be just that PRIVATE !
If all the press reports are true Mr Chiles and his Irish sidekick have had plenty private conversations of their own...i wonder who will turn them in !!
Shame on you One Show !!
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Bring Carol Back and identify the person who felt it necessary to complain. If it is right and proper to have brought Carols private conversation to the notice of the public then the public must have the right to know who this person was.
She has been treated badly by the BBC and we have lost a very interesting, entertaining and witty reporter from the One Show.
Do the right thing BBC bring her back.
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I have watched the One Show pretty well since it started, in spite of the fact that both presenters are useless interviewers. Adrian has far too high an opinion of himself, and I have frequently suspected a real streak of PC down his back. However this latest fiasco has certainly opened my eyes. If, in fact, it was AC who caused all this, it's time he grew up.
Unless and until Carol Thatcher is reinstated, and receives an apology, I will certainly not be watching the show.
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I am absolutely disgusted at the BBCs treatment of Carol Thatcher. This ridiculous 'thought-police' attitude that the corporation has taken leaves a lot to be desired. Do they wish to keep their viewers? Does the One Show feel that by getting rid of Carol, people will think any better of them? Obviously its 'NO' to both questions. Shame on the BBC for acting on a 'private' conversation and shame on the One Show - what are we coming to?
I grew up at about the same time as Carol and Robertson's golliwogs were a fantastic and inexpensive form of collecting that all children could do if they wanted.
Eavesdroppers never hear good about themselves!!!
Carol Cook, Allhallows, Kent
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Why does the Comments counter remain at zero?
Use the complaints procedure on the BBC (contact us button will get you there). Interestingly, the BBC put out the following response in regard to Jonathan Ross's comments regarding an 80 year old lady:
Regular listeners will be familiar with Jonathan's irreverence and innuendo. This light-hearted exchange contained no offensive language, named no individuals and there was clearly no intention to offend anyone. Nothing broadcast by the BBC was linked to a specific individual or would allow the public to link these comments to an individual.
Nothing was broadcast in Carol Thatcher's private conversation, and I believe no individual was named either. Where is the consistency BBC?
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Questions:
1.Since when did the BBC's charter include acting as the arbiter of the boundaries of freedom of expression?
2. Even supposing this is a legitimate part of its role, what justification can it claim for determining that a comment considered foolish but relatively innocuous by most of the population, is, in fact, rascist?
3. What give the BBC the right to deny the basic human right of freedom of expression to Carol Thacher? (Presumably the fact that she is too self-reliant to test it in the courts?)
4. Why, when the presenters request comments on the blog, are you not discussing this issue on the programme?
5. Considering the prominence the BBC gave to this story, why is it not a Have Your Say topic?
You have shown yourselves to be a nasty vengeful bunch, with all the even-handedness and political sophistication of a 1960's student union meeting.
Chiles should go, the BBC must apologise to Carol Thatcher now!
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i agree with the whole thatcher issue up to a certain point. private or not, she used the derogative word golli***, and that IS rather bad.
do i think she deserved the sack? no i don't. but she did deserve a telling off.
i thought that a grown woman of an exceptional education would know that to make a joke of that nature, is quite silly really,especially working in the media where people will scrutinize you and depend on your image to be either a hit or a miss.
anyway, loved frost and his mini-documentary of mohammed ali.
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The BBC are very selective about what is offensive
we didn`t watch the show tonite and won`t until Carol is reinstated.
Adrian Chiles should be ashamed of himself it it was him who complained.
Terri Jackson
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How I agree with the previous viewers who have commented on the disgraceful treatment of Carol Thatcher. Come on BBC have some commonsense for goodness sake. If Jonathon Ross can be paid an obscene amount of money and allowed to return to our screens for some more of his rubbish, what on earth is the problem in Carol coming back.
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I also think you should apologise to the Black / Catholic / Rythm comment made by 'Sir' David Frost. I am offended deeply by this comment which was said ON AIR.
I am disgusted.
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The remark made by Carol Thatcher in The One Show Green Room last Thursday caused considerable offence.
The One Show's Green Room is a busy space and, on Thursday, there were external guests and several members of the One Show production team present, as well as Adrian, Christine and our celebrity guest Jo Brand.
In some reports it has been suggested that the word in question was used in jest. This was not the case and the use of the word to describe a black sportsman caused instant offence.
Jo questioned Carol about it at the time but, contrary to some recent press reports, neither she nor Adrian contacted the press. The following day, a number of people who had either heard the comment or learned of it, made their feelings known to the show’s executive producer, who raised the issue with Carol.
By this point, the press had contacted the BBC with details of the incident asking for comments. Carol was given every opportunity to discuss the issue and offer an unconditional apology but declined to do so.
Carol’s occasional role as a roving reporter for The One Show requires her to work closely with the team, report on a broad variety of issues and meet a wide range of people across the country, many of whom are unlikely to find her comment acceptable in any circumstances. As a result, The One Show will not be asking Carol to appear on the show again.
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I was offended by Hardeep's comment about "foreign children" as some sleight on the strikers or was it a slieght on Britons in general?
Thinks he's clever, eh? that is NOT OK to say!
As for Carol T, she has nothing to apologise for. Get rid of Joe brand, I say.
She is a foul mouthed, revolting person.
She was funny, a long time ago.
Now, she is a victim of her own success; perhaps together with Adrian Chiles.
Carol Thatcher is a character and someone much needed on BBC unlike so many of the boring individuals who chose to walk out when Carol uttered the G word about a white person!!!!!!
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I feel so annoyed that Mr Childs attitude to a private remark made by Carol Thatcher in the green room. I would suggest you reinstate Carol & suspend Mr Childs permanently.
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I really enjoyed your show unitl the disgraceful treatrment of Carol Thacther.
I will not be watching your show again until the BBC behave in an adult and responsible manor and allow freedom of speech. Perhaps you show dismiss the snitch who has nothing better to do than compalin about completely innocent remarks
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Why does the Comments counter at the head of this blog show zero comments? There are at least 53. That's FIFTY-THREE COMMENTS NOT ZERO
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Disappointed, but not surprised, that Chiles made no apology for his inflammatory comments about Atheists last night.
Any other segment of society & he would have been dropped as quick as they dropped Thatcher. He made is ignorant comments in public, yet he gets away with it.
Sigh. Last time I watch the One Show.
Ian, Bedford
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RUBBISH RUBBISH AND RUBBISH !!!!
Disgraceful, PC gone Barmy - Mr Chiles has BLOWN it with the general public for his CREEPY ( Brown Nosed -and that's not raciest) BRING Back Carol Thatcher - and dispose without Haste Mr Chiles ( also from MOTD) as We Wont be viewing ANY show that he's ON.
BBC - Get your head from out of the clouds and lets have some CORRECT BRITISH Fairation
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people, put this into perspective. we weren't there so we only can express our opinions. and remember, opinions are not fact.
so before we start to lynch people and accuse of childes of whatever you accuse him of, think. that's all.
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*Post 58 Host_Ryan*
"caused considerable offence"
Please elaborate?
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Don't feel I have much to add to the comments made in support of Carol Thatcher who cames across as a warm, likeable person. I feel very much that the BBC is out of touch with the real viewers and can only feel contempt for whoever reported Carol and whoever made the decision to "axe" her following a private remark.
Much better if time were spent getting rid of some of the foul language and abusive comments which now pass as humour.
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Hi, Just to say that today's program just shows how unprofessional Adrian Chils is, and how much he is out of his depth, (The program showed some out takes of some of the incompetence Adrian is renown for)
Adrian would be better sticking to radio. His co presenters are more professional and seam to ask the right questions, As one guest stated its like being interviewed by a 6 year old, therefore Adrian hang up your clip board / paper (you forever fidgeting with) and let someone like Dominic take over
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Carol's comments were not broadcast at the time. People's conversations should be just that: conversation. Who were the people who were offended? Several members of the One Show must be delicate in their sensitivities: as you can see from the comments tonight we were not offended by Carol's alleged comments - it wasn't broadcast. She should not be sacked just because of the hyper-sensitivities of the production team or even the guests for that matter. Are they more important than the general viewing public who pays the BBC's licence fee? We were not offended and enjoy Carol Thatcher's reporting. She is a breath of fresh air. You cannot have one standard for Jonathan Ross (who deepy offended thousands of BBC licence fee payers) and one for Carol Thatcher. I will be waiting for the One Show to apologise for their knee-jerk reaction.
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oldie49
i am laughing at you comment, i'm sure some people out there would consider her comment to have been foul.
golli*** is like the N word.not very nice by today's standards.
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hostryan
As you are very well aware, nobody is accusing Adrian Chiles of leaking the comment to the press, therefore your defence on this particular point is a smokescreen.
The clear accusation against Chiles is that he was either the instigator of, or complicit in, the complaints to the producers that you refer to without stating who was responsible.
Please address this directly.
One Show Bullies - you will not get away with this.
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Host Ryan says that Carole would be unable to continue with her role as roving reporter because some people would find her description of the tennis player unacceptable.
Two things:
Firstly, how arrogant!
He is presuming that the viewers out here in the real world are as petty and vindictive as he is. Actually a lot of us are quite grown up you know and we don't appreciate other people taking offence on our behalf.
Secondly, how on earth would anyone have known about Carole's remark if some beastly sneak hadn't publicised it?
I have to agree with all the other contributors who have contrasted the treatment of Jonathon Ross with the BBC's reaction in this case.
He left revolting messages on an old man's answer phone!
And then it was broadcast because they were proud of what they'd done!
Back on the telly now though...
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So 1984 has at last arrived, albeit somewhat later than anticipated. I agree totally with the comments of the vast majority of those who have commented on this matter. Jo Brand has commented that she is considering sending excrement to members of a certain political party. Why don't you attend in person, Jo? That would be far more offensive. Talking of taking offense, I must say that the way this matter has been handled is in itself an offense to the sensitivities of the average viewer. I do not, of course, include those with a political agenda or paranoid tendencies. Chiles has just done his best to drive people into the arms of the BNP (maybe he is recruiting for them). I and my family will not be watching this programme again unless CT is reinstated.
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I am disgusted at the sacking of Carole Thatcher and the fact that Chiles and Bleakley have neither commented on, or supported a fellow presenter. Jonathon Ross not only insulted an elderly man and then joked about it, the BBC then broadcast it after PASSING THROUGH THEIR VETTING SYSTEM, then HE WAS REINSTATED
Carole Thatcher jokes off camera about a golliwog (which is unacceptable) but this is not a sacking matter. Is there one set of rules if you insult a black person OFF AIR and another if you insult a white person ON AIR. THIS IS DICRIMINATION. Who reported this matter? I hope it was not the vulgar and offensive Jo Brand , WHY HAVE WE NOT BEEN TOLD? Disgraceful !!!
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Carol Thatcher is fired for an off-air remark for which there was a later apology.
Jonathan Ross has several warnings for on-air comments culminating in a vile on-air call to an old man about his grand-daughter. He keeps his £6 million a year job.
What pathetic double standards inspired by political correctness.
The BBC is a shambles does'nt deserve the license fee monopoly.
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Quick! Jo, Adrian! Sir David Frost was heard to indulge in cultural sterotyping in his quote about "blacks having all the natural rhythm (but it is the catholics who need it..)" on tonight's show. Don't you think you ought to be applying your politically-correct antenna to this faux pas and reporting his outrageous conduct to the powers that be, after all it has been broadcast to the entire nation? Or, perhaps is it acceptable comment from someone unconnected to the conservative party? What are your thoughts on on what sanctions should be applied to Sir David? After all, my husband who is actually black, would love to know even though he is sick of self-rightous, middle-class white people deciding what is offensive and what he should be protected from hearing. Shame on you. Grow up.
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Chris Moyles refers to something or other ON-AIR as "so gay" in the primary school sense of the word.
As with Carol some people might get highly agitated ... but Moyles still collects his £650k per annum and he's still on the air (rightly in my view, I'm gay but frankly who cares, Moyles is quite funny).
Meanwhile Adrian and/or whoever else dislikes Carol uses a slip-up in a PRIVATE conversation as a pretext to shaft her.
Adrian's personal conduct disgusts me more than Carol's, but I wouldn't sack him for it.
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Has the black (can I mention that colour?) tennis player complained? Did he think it offensive? The Mail on Line shows three photos (all politically correct, three men (one of each colour!) with wild hair. I remember playing with gollywogs as a child: as far as I'm concerned these were/are toys with big hair.
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I can't think of any other work situation where an employee woud be removed from their job because they said something that caused offence to their colleagues in a private conversation. In my opinion Carol is a lively, loveable character - she is a little unspoken at times but always well-meant - viewers can appreciate this and respect her genuine personality. To be frank 'genuine' is something this show badly needs. I think Adrian does a great job in 'the Apprentice' aftermath show but here he seems so much in a rush, often cutting off guests abrubtly when actually I want to hear what they have to say. His 'em, ems' off screen signal that he is desperate to move onto the next thing - it comes across as very rude. Watch the show back Adrian and you'll see what I mean! I think you try to cram far too much into this show to the extent where it becomes irritating. Lucy's 'political correctness also gets on my wick!!! It's such a shame because it would be lovely to have something easy-going and engaging on at this time of the evening- but the Carol Thatcher episode is the last straw for me I'm afraid. I give up! (Though I may tune in again in a few weeks to see if anything's changed)
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chiles has a cheek snitching on carol thatcher when all he does is verbally abuse residents of the UK except residents of england?
as for jonothan ross that guy should be sacked without question,the bbc are a shambles with double standards and nobody is worth £6 a year no matter who they are?
i won't be watching again i'm sorry to say as i once enjoyed the light-heartedness of the show but nowadays it's turned into an adrian chiles show and christine is being ignored/mocked by chiles at every opportunity.
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This damn PC business has gone far too far in this country of ours , i have been called name whilst working in the US but did it bother me NO , i just excepted it for what it was , words only , that are soon forgoten , the people making a big thing of this Carol Thatcher are the ones with a problem of insecurity and trying to be someone they certainly are not , more like narrow minded bigots and so full of **** it comes out of there mouths as a such.
The one show is the GONE show now as far as i am concerned ,until you lot get your act together i shall be a channel away bye bye , BBC should be totaly ashamed of yourselves as you are going far beyond human deciency in bringing green room chatter into the news SHAME on you all , If that Adrian Childs (name fits the bill to a T) started this then it is he who should be sacked .
PS BBC has always been my first choice of TV channels/programmes but now i am afraid you are being degraded by incompetant employees , sort it out now so you can keep your A1 status in the TV world.
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Once again the BBC has double standards- if your a Sir you can get away with making a joke in poor taste on air that belongs to the 1960's but not make a similarly dubious poor taste comment in private.
Still we've not quite got to 1984 where saying the wrong thing when talking in your sleep leads to prison. The 'one' production team obviously thinks 1984 is a manual for them to follow not a warning.
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It's interesting to note that this support for Carol carries over onto the Protests blog on this site. We are protesting but we're just being fobbed off by the BBC.
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On a point of clarification I heard Carol Thatcher's publicist being interviewed on Radio 2 who explained that Carol was referring to someone's hair and not the person themselves. The "G" word refers to a cartoon character that, like it or not, many of us grew up with so therefore the term is in our vocabulary. Carol is understood to have offered an apology to the BBC but it was deemed "not the right sort of apology" and was therefore not accepted.
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I am so sad to hear that Ms Thatcher has been sacked, she would have made a far more exciting presenter of the one show than the people who currently present it, along with Hardeep Sing Kohli. At least they can hold a conversation without having to stare at the idiot cue, even to read who is coming on the program next!.
As a matter of fact, I bought a gollywog in the lake district only 15 months ago. They are in shops everywhere north of Manchester. I bought it as it reminded me of my childhood when we used to collect the little golly men and exchange them for an enamel one. My favourite doll was black, and I loved them all, and I am not a racist. Please give Carol a show of her own, she is great.
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If Adrian Chiles thinks that reporting a private conversation is appropriate for someone losing their job i.e. Carol Thatcher then I can assure him that My wife and I will NEVER watch ANY program that he appears in.
If Jonathan Ross can offend (frequently)
and be defended that his program waspre-recorded and should not have been aired
can you tell me what is the difference.
Perhaps it is because one presenter is decent while the other is reprehensible.
I will leave you to figure out which is which.
N.B. This comment is posted here because the BBC complaints online procedure is not fit for purpose ( I was going to say c**p but that would be politically incorrect)
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Does anyone from The One Show actually read these comments? Somehow, I doubt it.
Anyway, if I'm wrong, could someone please, please, please ask Adrian to stop saying "Yeah, yeah, yeah..." when he wants to cut one of his guests off in their prime? Yesterday, Professor Winston received the treatement; tonight it was David Frost's turn. This is the height of rudeness and denies the audience the opportunity to listen properly to the interesting array of guests on the show. Without them, there wouldn't be much else to hold our attention.
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Ryan - why is the counter set at zero for this blog. There are at least 88 comments now.
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What's occurring @ the BBC? Let us all put up with Mr J Ross, and get rid of Carol. Who ever decides on these matters??
Still I suppose if Carol had said f.....g Golliwog she would not have been sacked!!!
Also Adrian Chiles should take note of David Frost and listen to his guests, instead of talking over them all the time.
Cheryl
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You can bet the counter is set as zero in the hope this blog will go away , but some of us know better dont we.
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Anti-PcBrit: It's pathetic.
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Actually, I think it's quite sinister. The BBC is attempting pull the wool over the eyes of the casual browser, but this isn't the only strand which is getting all these comments. The "protest" blog is also getting comments in support of Carol. Just how hard do you have to protest before someone listens to US and not their own "we know better" voices?
Perhaps ITV will have a blog site - I shall investigate.
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Jonny Ross should have been sacked as he is a despicable human being even to have contemplated doing such a thing speeks volumes of his character, yet another programme i dont watch now , keep this up Auntie and you will soon be a very distant Auntie as far as i am concerned.
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Could the BBC perhaps think that our opinion of Jonathan Ross (whatever it is) is a good thing - it gets us talking about him and the BBC? The BBC is misguided. I'm fed up that the BBC has this supercillious attitude of it knows best.
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Ryan - why is the counter set at zero for this blog. There are at least 95 comments now.
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The feeble attempt on behalf of the Producers (host_ryan Blog 58) to defend sacking CT only reinforces the general ire shown in these comments. Tendentious PC nonsense.
Like many others I and my wife have chosen to boycott the One Show and am now reduced to Jon Snow and all his prejudices on Channel 4 News.
When will the broadcasting media be populated by normal human beings?
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Please note:
I and several others have screen-grabbed all the pro-Carol comments made today on this blog and if you attempt to airbrush them out of history as you did with yesterday's comments they will all be re-posted and press-released.
One Show Bullies - you will not get away with it.
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NEWS FLASH 1984 Comes True
BBC to be rebranded BIG BROTHER Cees All
All good people take care careless words cost jobs & livelihoods , careful constructive honest words get lost in silence .
If BBC changes for the better please email me as i shall not be watching any more of your shameless programmes and thus will never know if there is a policy change .
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I would also like to add to the comments about Carol Thatcher. I don't think what Carol said is the issue at all - The crucial point is - this was a comment made in private - not in the public domain. Poor Carol has been stitched up it seems and it would appear some sort of agenda is at play. We live in a world that has gone politically correct mad - where the thought police lurk round every corner - If free speech is no longer possible then it is no longer a free democracy. Or is it just that Carol Thatcher just happens to be the daughter of a political power house that created Thatcherism ? Perhaps Carols true blue beliefs are too much to stomach for One Show staff. The One Show should apologise to Carol Thatcher for treating her in a totally shabby fashion.
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I like the show, but I am concerned that a private conversation has resulted in some jobsworth complaining to the management at the bbc who don't understand that its perfectly ok to have a private conversation and that means what it says "PRIVATE" personally I think the management should issue a public appology to Carol Thatcher as soon as possible!
How the bbc management can do this is unforgivable especially now a certain foulmouthed Johnathan Woss is back on our screens and still earning a crust. Personally I think the whole pc thing is a pain in the arse and should be terminated forthwith.
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Why did everyone dress up tonight. When David Cameron was on they were all wearing T-shirts or was it their undervest. PC and boot-lickers comes into mind.
Obviously Host Ryan is an insider to have all that information. Probably another boot-licker.
Director General as usual seems to be on holidays. Hissilence is deafening. Does he ever watch his own programmes? It does not look like it as the two nincompoops, Adrian and Christine are still working.
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Your notice that there have been no comments about their pathetic action, is another indication of the small-minded pathetic nature of the wet flannels running the BBC. I loved my golliwog seventy years ago and my daughter loved hers; she collected all the golliwog band and kept them for many years. The hairstyles of many people do resemble the golliwogs on the jampot: FACT. not racism.
The duty of the BBC is to broaden and educate our minds, not dumb them down.
Beakersmoll
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Press comment:
"The decision to ban Carol Thatcher from The One Show is in stark contrast to the treatment of other presenters who have joked about murderers, race, the holocaust, homosexuals and Islam".
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/4514325/Carol-Thatcher-golliwog-row--Presenters-who-kept-their-jobs-at-the-BBC-despite-controversy.html
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Adrian asked Sir David Frost for tips about being a good interviewer ''listen to what people are saying'' was the reply. So, BBC, take notice, listen to all the complaints, and bring back Carol T. Apologise for all the mistakes that the BBC has made - including sacking Carol.
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I am boycotting the show because my Hubby and I are totally gobsmacked at the way Carol Thatcher was treated. Yes she used the word Golliwog, but there was a doll with that name which was very popular with white people, so what's the problem?
I would love to know who snitched on her. Was it Adrien? If so he only done it because he was looking out for himself, and if not him then whoever done it wants to be ashamed of themselves.
The BBC has gone too far with political correctness, and should not take note of all these so called PC viewers/media.
Well good BBC you have just lost 2 viewers.
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I THINK IT IS OUTRAGEOUS THAT CAROL THATCHER HAS BEEN SACKED FROM THE ONE SHOW. IT HAS BEEN ONE OF MY FAVOURITE SHOWS BUT REST ASSURED I SHALL NOT WATCH AGAIN UNTIL CAROL IS RETURNED AND RECEIVES AN APOLOGY FROM THE BBC. SHE IS NOT A RACIST. SHE IS OF A SIMILAR AGE TO ME AND PROBABLY THINKS OF A GOLLYWOG IN THE SAME WAY AS I DO - A HARMLESS CHILDHOOD TOY AND THE STICKERS ON THE JAM POTS WHICH I COLLECTED. I BELIEVE SHE WAS MERELY REMARKING ON THE STATE OF THE HAIR OF A CERTAIN SPORTSPERSON. A GOLLYWOG TOY HAD VERY UNTIDY HAIR.
WHOEVER REPORTED CAROL IS A SMALL MINDED SNITCH WHO SHOULD HAVE BEEN TOLD TO MIND THEIR OWN BUSINESS.
PERHAPS THE BBC COULD HAVE JUST WARNED CAROL THAT THAT WORD IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AND SHE SHOULD AVOID USING IT AGAIN ON BBC PREMISES AS 'WALLS HAVE EARS".
THIS WAS A PRIVATE REMARK WHICH WAS NOT INTENDED TO OFFEND ANYONE.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE BBC DON'T KEEP PANICKING EVERY TIME SOME PC OBSESSED TIME WASTER COMPLAINS. USE YOUR COMMEN SENSE OR YOU WILL LOSE YOUR CREDIBILITY.
BY THE WAY I THINK JONAHAN ROSS SHOULD HAVE BEEN PERMANENTLY SACKED - HE REALLY IS OFFENSIVE ON A REGULAR BASIS.
MARY
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I am not a blogger or even a person who usually complains or applauds programmes.
I have felt moved, however, to join so that I can register my complaint against the treatment afforded to Carol Thatcher.
Any honest or truly concerned person who objected to the word gollywog would have taken the time to talk in private to Carol, express their concerns and tell her why they found the word offensive and attempt to alter her perception of the word. That is what a person who is genuinally offended and who wishes to really alter attitudes would do.
A back stabbing coward with a hidden adgenda would quickly 'snitch' to their bosses and make sure that the conversation was quickly spread. This action would not be done to educate or change Carol, they arn't bothered about that and that isnt the reason they have retold this private conversation. Were the people in the green room of such a delicate nature they couldnt cope with a one to one conversation with Carol Thatcher? Has a heaven sent opportunity been taken to settle scores or a clash of personalities or political views?
Bye Adrian. Bye One Show.
I viewer down, any more?
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To the One Show production staff: You have now over a hundred comments (and increasing rapidly) about the Carol Thather affair, virtually all of them against you. Clearly, the vast majority of your audience disagrees with the position you have taken and your actions. Will you have the courage to admit you have made a mistake, swallow your pride and reverse your decision? Going by previous BBC decisions in recent years, I doubt it somehow. Even when there is a clear mandate against you, when you have specifically asked for our comments on your shows, you arrogantly refuse to concede the point. By doing so, you lose our respect and our veiwing figures. But hey, as long as it is the law for us to have to pay the licence fee, you're laughing (at us) aren't you?
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Please make sure the BBC lets their producers of the One Show know exactly what the viewers feelings are over Carol Thatcher.
I sometimes think these blogs are not read or addressed as they should be,
We want a result and we want it publised.!!
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I agree heartily with all the comments decrying CT's dismissal.
The BBC's PC police had better get busy because an awful lot of us are talking about gollywogs!!! It is ludicrous that the word 'gollywog' is seen as racially offensive anyway, as it was part of our national way of life for many years in the same way that the Hovis loaf was. A whole brand was instantly recognised by a golliwog. If the BBC felt that the term is politically sensitive, then they could have had a quiet word with Carole and told the press where to get off when they came sniffing. Better still, they could have given the press the name of the tell-tale who tipped them off, then we would know who the real culprit is.
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Come on BBC what planet are you on. Definitely shot yourself in the foot once again.
Adrian looked quite uncomfortable tonight and so he should. I hope we have an apology soon for the way his colleague has been treated. Then he might regain a bit of the respect he has lost.
Get real and bring back Carol.
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My comments on tonights show is nil as I chose not to watch it due to the appalling treatment of Carol Thatcher........goodbye the One Sow.
Jinty64
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Yes, I too agree with all the previous comments supporting Carol and against the BBC's crass management of this 'storm in a tea cup' and I feel moved to add another complaint to the growing number. The BBC will see that feeling is mounting about this issue if anyone there cares enough to read these comments. How dare they re-instate 'Woss' after his broadcasted deeply offensive behaviour and then sack someone for a 'private' comment.
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I trust that the BBC will treat the comments made by each of the contributors to this and other One Show blogs (including those that were removed from last night's backstage blog) as a complaint by the BBC and logged as such.
It was complaints that eventually triggered action in the Ross/Brand affair (which was much more serious in that it was deliberately broadcast and concerned a named person).
The "PC-savvy" people at the BBC, who seem to be out of touch with language, intent and reality need to take note.
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By the way, one question that was noticeable by its absence tonight:
"So Alistair (McGowan), can you confirm that you will never fly in an aeroplane again?"
Perhaps this can be confirmed in tomorrow night's progamme - in the interest of fairness and balance of course, as with all the other topics that the show deals with!
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Please do not sack Carol Thatcher from the One Show. She is an absolute delight and the show will not be the same without her.
It is ridiculous that she is being treated so harshly for saying something privately, off camera. If she must be punished, why can't she just have a suspension like Jonathen Ross who insults just about everyone, on camera.
We really have lost our way in this country. By treading on eggshells worrying what we say about black or Asian people, we are just being racist, by treating them differently.
Why is it an insult to liken someone to a golly? A gollywog is (or was, when I had one as a child) a very cuddly, loveable toy- which happened to be black.
Making such a fuss about a golly is similar to not being able to call a blackboard a blackboard. It is insinuating that there is something wrong with the item because it is black.
If it is an insult to liken someone to a golly why is this any different to, for example, calling John Sergeant a dancing pig or likening him to Jo Brand. Or the hundreds of times Carol Thatcher's mother has been insulted by comedians and commentators on the BBC.
It seems that, at the BBC, it is ok to insult people, as long as they are white - and that's discrimination.
We will only ever have true equality when everyone is treated equally.
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I agree that Carol Thatcher could have been reprimanded as it wasn't on air, who told the press. Double standards at the BBC.
sack J. Ross
I take exeption to Adrian Chiles comments about Glasgow, last week he intimated that swearing was the' glaswegian coming out' and tonight the scathing remarks about trees in glasgow !!! grow up, he is the worst presenter ever rude and bigoted is he a raist??????
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I just want to say how hypocritical i feel the whole Carol dismissal is and, also how pathetic the BBC is becoming in their hyper-political correctness.
Considering Sir David Frost made very much a racial joke on air tonight and that was accepted as harmless wit, Carol was using her term descriptively not to raise laughter. Which is more offensive to the PC brigade? The rational mind knows that neither incident is cause for moral outrage.
Me thinks the BBC has the wobbly knees since the whole Jonathon Ross incident and whoever reported Carol needs to live in the real world and get some perspective. I'd rather have Carol and not a brainwashed sneak.
This incident has demoted the One Show in my estimation.
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Oh and bring back Holiday- this program is dumbed down purile trite!
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The despicable treatment of Carol Thatcher is typical of the BBC. Would it have anything to do with her surname by any chance? The BBC are just a bunch of left wing anarchists. It seems like Adrian Chiles has blown his cover at last!
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Your treatment of Carol Thatcher is embarrasing. "Cutting edge" comedy from Ross is acceptable, but private, off-air comments from Carol are just too shocking.
Grow up BBC
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Dear all (comments above)
Thankyou for putting into words EXACTLY how I feel... I too support Carol Thatcher... and codemn the BBC for the persecution of Carol for innocent remarks!
I too, am TOTALLY fed up with the harrassment by policital correctness of the English language and the hypocrasy of the BBC (and just one example being Johnathan Ross)
Carol, I hope you read this blog and realise just how much the country and normal intelligent caring people support you and I hope your career goes from strength to strength
BBC....? And whoever the sad individual was who initiated this entire farce: I'm disguisted AGAIN!
When will you start representing the MAJORITY of people in the UK?
If we follow this example then LITTLE BRITAIN should be BANNED! There should be NO 9 o'clock watershed as you DONT NEED IT.... NO SWEARING allowed anymore in ANY circumstances and so on and so on
Alas Little Britain is too popular, and Johnathan Ross you pay too much... as for Carol Thatcher... perhaps somebody should be investigating why she is so different.... and why the disaplinary procedures within the BBC are NOT consistent?
Another One show viewer lost
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Typical arrogant Thatcher just like her mother, rude and racist and deserves all she gets. Hope I never see or hear from her again as she has been the one element of the show which I cannot stand and have to turn her down when she come on and turn it up when she stops!! Apart from her an excellent evenings light entertainment something the BBC has become expert in over the years and has not lsot its talent. Just stick to your guns on the Thatcher decision so that I and many others can enjoy the show even more!
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Having read some of the previous comments how crass are your viewers and how racist Britains Middle Classes still are. These comments are indefensible, whether in private or not and if these people switch off from this programme then good riddance to ignorant rubbish. Well done the BBC and The One Show!
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I think that we need to realise that we are in 2009 and the use of words like Golliwog to describe a person because of their colour is not be acceptable whether in public or private.
As for normal caring intelligent people - I'd like to think I'm one and do find it offensive.
If you are the majority ( and in my heart I don't think you are) it's no wonder their are so many divisions in our society.
One last thought if there was a black/coloured person present would she have still used the term?
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Hello VidVee 23(comment 127)
Though you don't actually have the courage to say so directly, I assume your comment is especially for me since we are the only two on here at this unearthly hour.
You obviously cannot read or are just plain stupid because CAROL was not addressing colour BUT hair.
That is the stuff that grows out the top of our heads!
How I despise wriggly worms that twist words and meanings just as you have by your insulting comment.
Carol's remark was no more than stupid and if you have read all the comments on here (and yesterday) you will see that the majority of INTELLIGENT people have realised that.
Perhaps Carol would not have been so careless in her choice of words had it not been for the vile company that she was in, the pie eating Brand and Chiles, who no doubt encouraged her to drink plenty and relax which she glady accepted to ease her uncomfortable situation.
Enough said. Just do NOT twist MY words and meaning as you have Carol's. I do not work for the BBC so do not come under your sick codes of practice.
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Hello arcticsnowflake
Here Here.
I agree, I wish people would get their facts right.
This Country is full of PC, ignorant people.
And they all seen happy because ignorance is bliss!!
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I think the treatment of Carol Thatcher was outrageous. This alleged comment was in a private conversation in the Green Room. I wonder who complained? How do any of us know what was said and in what context?
Watch the show and it isn't hard to put someone in the frame. Ms Brand could barely disguise her loathing of Carol who is of course the daughter of the women who was, and remains, the figure of hate for so many Labour supporters.
This is a sneaky and low act of censorship by a few wimpy production staff.
Shame on you. You should apologise to Carol and reinstate her.
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It doesn't matter where Carole made such racist remarks. Such behaviour is unacceptable. Perhaps she thought her fellow celebs think the same way and use the same language as she does, and that they wouldn't say or do anything about it. Well done to them for standing up against such damaging behaviour and well done to the BBC for stamping it out.
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Reading a bit more of these comments, I see Jo Brand was involved too. I think she must have been jealous because Carol's funny and human and she isn't. I was once involved in an incident with Jo in Manchester back in the day and a trivial post-live-show joke escalated into an employee of mine having to be sacked. After we'd sent her flowers, she wrote back saying she hopped she hadn't been the cause of the dismissal. Hopefully, she's writing another letter to Mark T at the top of the listless BBC.
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I agree with the comments about Carol. How could someone tell on her after a comment made in a private conversation? i also boycotted the show and will do for some time. If it was Chiles who snitched on her he must be a very sad person. its getting to the stage that you can't say anything. next step will be microphones in our houses!!!!
very angry with PC PEOPLE!
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She should do the decent thing and RESIGN!
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I have read the first few comments about how Carol Thatcher has been treated and completely agree with the sentiments expressed. Adrian Chiles is at best a mediocre presenter and Jo Brand is one of the worst offenders when it comes to distasteful remarks.
The treatment of Carol Thatcher is appalling - the BBC needs to look closely at itself!
Perhaps if enough people feel as I do we may be rewarded with the removal of The One Show.
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I like the format and the show's content and subject matter, but please get rid of Adrian Chiles and give us Nick Knowles!!!
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It seems anything the BBC does or does not do is not acceptable to some people nowadays.
THE BBC IS RIGHT TO SACK HER.
Thatcher's comments are an insult and cannot be taken lightly.
This type of thing serves only to stoke up division not just among the black and white but between those that consider these comments offensive regardless of their race, “colour” or creed.
A nurse has been suspended for offering to pray for a patient's recovery.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/somerset/7863699.stm
If that patient felt offended and this action was taken – Ms Thatcher should be treated the same.
She should not get away with it.
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I feel nothing but disgust at your treatment of Carol Thatcher, a private conversation blown out of all proportion, compare this with J.Ross foul mouth actual broadcast and it stinks of discrimination, no longer can I watch a show that is produced by stalinist sneaks who cannot wait to report a PRIVATE CONVERSATION shame on you, I dare you to name the SNEAK
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The BBC is loosing the plot and some of these precious people need to lighten up and just get over themselves. If 'Gollywog' is now a proscribed word then it should be briefed as such - personally I think its all nonsense as 'Gollies' were very much loved in my childhood!
Reinstate Carol Thatcher and apologise to her and the public for this whole shabby episode. I bet you won't be making the balance of these comments public - hardly anyone seems to agree with the line TOS has taken, do they!
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I wish to record my profound objection to your treatment of Carol Thatcher. Don’t you dare do this in MY name !!!
As a license payer I expect you to provide excellent Programmes, not indulge in crass “PC” kangaroo courts to police a PRIVATE CONVERSATION.
Regarding Carol Thatcher’s unworthy colleagues, I have never liked Jo Brand with her “stock in trade” of truly nasty, vicious and snide remarks’ about others. You would have done far better to dispense with her services!
Outraged,
John Jenkins
75 Budmouth Avenue,Weymouth, Dorset
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I wish to complain about the blatant discrimination against Carol Thatcher.
I understand that this may be difficult to understand from the blatantly left leaning modern BBC which has sold it's soul to the PC brigade.
Carol Thatcher is from the same era as myself, we grew up collecting "Golliwogs" from the marmalade jars, it was part of our history, obviously now we are treated as politically undesirable and as such this is the discrimination I refer to!
I would also like to make the point that it is in many ways only private conversations and debates that allow ordinary people to talk about subjects that would otherwise be taboo!
The BBC has shown itself to be hypocritical in its treatment of Carol Thatcher in as much as the "asset" of the BBC Jonathon Ross is treated with kid gloves for an extreme abuse of his position when Carol Thatcher is sacked for a private conversation!
Maybe the people should start sending freedom of information requests to the BBC to see what other abuses of power their stars are carrying out, maybe we should check their credit card condoned usage by the BBC!
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Carol Thatcher's agent Ali Gunn (said) ...that she would consider taking legal action against "anyone" who called her client a racist...?
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RACIST!!!
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The One show, ''family show'' teaches us that their exec producer seems to be a bit of a bully regarding the sacking of Carol Thatcher. This family show with allegerdly fornicating presenters teaches us family values does it?. It also taught my kids to say the word 'Slap-head' the other night when a wildlife correspondant decided to say this live. The presenters refer to children as 'kids' and the in-house luvvieness is not good television. Please practice what you preach one show team.TIME TO AXE THIS SUBVERSIVE TRASH BBC.
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Has no one in the green room got anything better to do than repeat private conversations? Carol Thatcher is a breath of fresh air in the claustrophobic PC driven BBC.
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So the BBC continues to loose it's way. The poor judgement shown in removing Carol Thatcher suggests appalling, out of touch management. Adrian - have you no influence over these inadequate people? Suggest you watch your ratings closely this coming week.
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It would appear that once again with the BBC double standards are the name of the game. Are we to understand that Carol's comments are more offensive than when That person Ross called a 78 year-old and shouted lewd and vile messages.
He gets a slap on the wrist and it would appear anyone else, gets shown the door.
As for the One Show........ and that green room, I would advise all future guests to stay out of it unless they wish a private conversation to be used in evidence against them.Lastly someone really should take Chiles aside and explain " The Art of Being A Good Presenter" as currently he's dire.
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indeed, save your "jovial" racist remarks for the bnp meetings please carol.
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The One Show is now held in such universal contempt that you all may as well just pack up your bags and go home. Your exaggerated fundamentalist views on cuddly toys are seen to be all the more ridiculous by the shrewish attempt to defend them this morning.
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Having just seen the BBC defend themselves on the Breakfast programme I feel even more more incensed as they seem to be now saying that we cannot have a private conversation within a public place i.e. The Green Room. This is a very dangerous path to go down.
The fact that Jonothan Ross's apology initially came in the form of a duet with Russell Brand seems to have been reserved.
Shabby BBC, Shabby, Shabby, Shabby; If I had more time I could make it into a song!
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The BBC don't want Carol Thatcher to apologise. They want her to grovel.
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The person interviewed on BBC breakfast said the dicitionary definition of golliwog is a doll with a grotesque black face. Well in the Oxford it's 'a soft doll with a black face and fuzzy hair'. Nothing about 'grotesque'. If you happen to use a word that unintentially offends the best you can do is apologise for the offence caused and Carol has done this. But she (and clearly many others) does not find the term offensive and has the integrity to stand by her judgement.
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The BBC has said that they have "ONLY" received a few hundred complaints about the way they have treated Carol Thatcher!
WHAT HYPOCRICY if this had been complaints on any other subject even TEN complaints would have been cause for an investigation!
Shows what the BBC really are!
I really did think that they were unbiased I even sided with them when they decided not to view that DEC advert last week, this really does show the other side of the BBC!
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Double standards BBC. The BBC has no right to be petty. Ross retained his job yet Carol is sacked after making a remark in private. Yes the "G" word is offensive but I do not believe Carol Thatcher to be a racist. The person(s) who complained should be ashamed of themselves. I wonder if the BBC will take any notice of all the complaints about the unreasonable stance it is taking or will it carry on as usual ignoring us. Surely as licence fee payers we have some rights.
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For goodness sake - what is happening at the BBC? I agree with all the previous comments and say bring back Carole Thatcher to The One Show! I'm sure many, many viewers grew up in the days when golliwogs were black dolls and dolls came in all shapes and colours. To sack Carole for a comment she made when in discussion with other colleagues is taking p.c. to a ridiculous level. Where does this sort of thing end?
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the bbc now look like a load of idiots, as if they hadnt for a long time! the officil statement is just pathetic rubbish
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Bring back Carol Thatcher. I think it is disgraceful how they have treated her. The One show was getting worse and now it has hit new depths. Carol was good with her contribution and I think the sacking is stupid. Golliwog was a doll we all knew when I was a child and it was also a brand of jam products. Why should we change everything we knew as a child just to please others. You cannot wipe out history and this is England. I could remind you of the adage, 'when in Rome'..... I am sick and tired of trying to please everyone and it has produced an artificial kind of life with all this political correctness. Let us go back to living, these old terms are not to make fun of anyone. Grow up. I shall not be watching the One Show again and Adrian has plunged in my estimation of his character. Why let a private conversation get this far. Was is revenge!!! Sack Adrian instead and get rid of the One Show.
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I just want Adrian Childs to know that he is the pits if he leaked Carol Thatcher's remark. I thought you were a down to earth Brummie, but you've obviously got a hidden agenda - shame on you! You should be the one to go
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I will now boycott the One Show until the cowardly presenters apologise for their reprehensible behaviour re Carol Thatcher. IF they really were offended (and not trying to score cheap points) why did they not have the moral fibre and tell Carol face to face and leave it at that?
Thanks everyone for above comments, when will the BBC get it right? It seems to be populated by zealots who take pleasure in displaying their holier than thou mindset.
WILL YOU LISTEN TO COMMENTS BBC?
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The presenters of the one show are not very good at there jobs, you could save a lot of money and increase your viewing figures if perhaps you asked Carol Thatcher to present the show.
I cannot believe that so many people felt upset at the remarks made by Ms. Thatcher that has caused this hoo ha. Get rid of them all, including the controller of BBC1 for not being able to distinguish between a throw away remark and something said for pejorative reasons.
So There.
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You looked beautiful in your suit Adrian xx
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BBC Contoller in as mess once again! Are you now going to ask Childs and so many other presenters to apologise for their offensive on air comments and humour ranging from 'dirty schoolboy, to blatantly designed to shock.?
Carol Thatcher is like an innocent ray of sunshine whenever she appears.
I am afraid that the pc consumed BBC is becoming more rediculous by the day. but perhaps only mirrors the country as a whole.
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Because the BBC are so daft whenever Anne Robinson comments on size, region, accent, job, age on the Weakest Link, she is emulating what Carol did - therefore by implication......
Critising the Welsh for example is the same as calling the Irish or the Poles but it is allowed in the name of entertainment.
In the words of the Pub Landlord, SHAME ON YOU BBC!!!
PS: Adrian - laugh my cotton socks off when WBA go down, down, down, down
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Dear Adrian
I am a Brummie now retired to Sussex.
I am still a WBA supporter (57 years) and working lunch viewer.
Something is happening in Brum I don't like or relate to!
1) Apostrophe - Wacky Lib Dem Councillor
2) Carol Thatcher - reaction over the top!
This is not the BBC I have grown up with all these years.
After the J.Ross saga I am somewhat disillusioned
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I'm deeply saddened by the cowardly and bullying behaviour towards Carol Thatcher by members of the One Show team. The explanation put forward by Ms Hunt on the BBC Breakfast programme this morning was unconvincing. If Carol Thatcher says she meant the comment as a joke then shouldn't her word be taken on this? Maybe this is a case of certain people getting too big for their (football) boots and thinking that they are invincible and can do no wrong. To the people that are responsible for Carol Thatcher's demise on the One Show, shame on you. She was one of the reasons we watched the programme, because of her eccentric style of presentation. Jo Brand and Adrian Chiles often insult my sensitivities and how is it that Jonathan Ross is still at the Beeb?!
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Why was nothing mentioned on the One Show last night about the shabby treatment of Carol? Are Adrian and Christine too scared? As for Jo Brand, is this woman really whiter than white and politically correct in all she says. Come on Adrian if you leaked the news stand up and be counted, and stop acting like the 9 year old Hugh Grant said was interviewing him, if it wasn't you then name names.
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Just wanted to add my two pence worth to the debate......like many others, this is the first time I have felt compelled to comment on anything on TV but really feel that the sacking of Carol Thatcher for what?? is utterly ridiculous!
Will not be watching the One Show again.......
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I think that the BBC's treatment of Carol Thatcher is disgusting. The whistleblower should be sacked ... not her!
I will not be watching the One Show again until Carol is re-instated and will be urging my friends and colleagues to do the same.
Do the right thing: listen to the views of the majority here and give Carol her job back. Oh ... and an apology would be in order.
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It is of no consequence who leaked this story to the press, the fact remains that this was apparently a private conversation between two individuals - no matter where it took place. Ms Thatcher is clearly an intelligent woman who, with her long standing journalistic background, is well aware of what is a joke and what is not. Perhaps Mr Chiles is intimidated by a woman of Ms Thatcher's calibre and this was a good opportunity to exert his influence and get her removed from the team. As he is obviously the main man on the show, his support would have almost certainly secured her position. Despite "diversity training" throughout most organisations, it is a well known fact that comments relative to race, creed, sexual preference, size, age, and any other ism or ology still exists and we have to learn to live with it. Jo Brand's humour is hardly "whiter than white" and I think the BBC has, once again, shown its formidable capability of creating double standards.
I am sure I will not be the only one to switch over to another channel at 7pm each evening.
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Re-Carol Thatcher. I asked a black friend and colleague of mine whether he was offended by the word Golliwog - do you know, he burst out laughing and said 'are you saying I look like one?! Strangely enough, adults are more than capable of understanding the difference between a person and a toy.
I am really disappointed with Adrian Chiles - I really respected him. Not sure what I think now...
Why is the UK the laughing stock of other nations? This is just another example of complete idiocy.
Bring back Carol!!
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Dear Sir
With regards to the one show and Carol Thatchers treatment with regards to her coment Goliwog.
I have been a keen veiwer of the BBC and of the one show since its start.
I am totally against the treatment of Carol by the Stupidity of the BBC and on principle I will not watch the one show ever again.
I have lived in this country all my 75 years and I feel that the country is going downhill very fast. If you look at a Muslim or a Black person more than twice you are considered a racist.
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What a shame I found the one show to be great entertainment, and the presenters fine people, but now i'm a little sad that Adrian Chiles is so small minded as to be party to the sacking of Carol Thatcher for making a private off sceen comment. If Adrian lived in the real world he would have to wear ear protecters to ensure he didnt hear off the cuff comments that he felt he should report to the authorities.
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I have watched the One Show ever since the beginning but will now no longer be watching in view of the 'petty' way that the
"private" comments of Carol Thatcher were dealt with. I hope that millions will also boycott the show. I guess that Adri.an
Chiles's immaturity is apparent yet again
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I would just like to express my complete support for the BBC on the matter of sacking Carol Thatcher. I do not want my licence fee spent on a clearly racist individual, the fact that it was off camera is completely irrelevant. Every one knows that what she said is offensive, the only reason you would defend her is if you agree with those kinds of sentiments.
The view that this term was not considered racist in the past is also irrelevant, because it is considered racist NOW, and unless Thatcher has been in a time bubble she should be fully aware of that fact.
I wonder why all the people complaining about the sacking appear to be offended by bad language but not by racist comments like this.
Well done BBC, stick to your principles
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Carol Thatcher & her personal comments should have been reprimanded, however; whoever went to the media with this story should be hung out to dry.
Having watched the television this morning and sat through 'Breakfast' and the 'Wright Stuff', I have lost count as to the number of times the offending word was used on live television. In all of my years of watching the television, of which there have been many, I can not recall a time when the offending word has been used so freely and widely which leads me to believe that there is in fact; no such offensive word anymore.
The only time I can recall the offensive word being used previously was when a certain marmalade company withdrew their picture depicting the offensive word. Even then, I can only count on one hand the number of times the offensive word was used on the news.
So therefore in the interests of 'fair play', name & shame the idiot who ran off to the media which has now resulted in the offensive word being openly broadcast on live television across the channels for what seems to be on the hour, every hour . I hope that this individual is proud of themself for causing more harm than good and that they never get the opportunity to repeat their obvious financially gaining outburst again.
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i just want to say well done to the one team for dealing with the carol thatcher remarks in an appropriate way. she may think it was a joke, but in this situation she needs to stand in the other mans shoes. like carol i am a white woman and cannot know how if eels to be discrimaintated against because of your colour. ( i accept that she did not intend this but she needs to understand how it is perceived) perhaps if she reads the two amazing books by barack Obama she will get some glimmer of understanding
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Not sure when a light-hearted comment became a racist one. Surely it is all about the intent it was said with? Aside from the fact that it wasn't actually aired on TV anyway.
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What Carol Thatcher said in the green room was private but some silly person has now made the issue PUBLIC. Our teenage neighbours had never heard the term "golliwog" and had to have the current issue explained to them. They went off down the road giggling and repeating the word.
One of those present, I understand, was Jo Brand. Many of our comedians same similar or worse in their live stand up comic shows around the country. I remember seeing the late Charlie Williams live - that was a real eye opener and I have seen dozens since far worse than this silly green room episode.
Did the Thatcher family sue Jonathan Ross for saying obscene things to David Cameron about Carol's mother, Margaret Thatcher, on air to millions? They should have, shouldn't they?
Well done, BBC, you have showed you have no sense yet again. Sack Ross, not Thatcher.
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I have never written into a programme or a blog. I am 60 years of age and feel so angry at the way Carol Thatcher has been treated. Is it because she is a female!!! Yes, come on the person or persons who were 'offended' by the remark. Come out and tell us why!!! As someone remarked, she/me was brought up with the golliwog on the jam and collected the badges. And even had a golliwog!!!
Carol albeit a bit eccentric is a wonderful enthusiastic reporter and it is her querkyness that we wll love.
I agree with every one of the comments for Carol.
I have watched The One Show since it started, but will not be doing so from now on!
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It's strange that people have the freedom to spout PC comments such as
"The view that this term was not considered racist in the past is also irrelevant, because it is considered racist NOW, and unless Thatcher has been in a time bubble she should be fully aware of that fact".
Do we need to say more?
I fought for this country and saw my friends die under the Union Flag, I really believed in what I was doing as I thought I was protecting the freedoms of a great country, now I'm not so sure I made the right choice!
Yes I'm a dinosaur from the past just like Carol Thatcher and I am proud to say that some of my best mates were BLACK, we all believed in what we were doing because we trusted the politicians not to put us in a position where we did not have right on our side!
Now I have to listen to the verbal PC diarhea spouting out of the mouths of the "MODERN" generation, I now say to that person how do you intend making me conform to the PC modern times?
Is it now taken for granted that my friends died to give you the liberty to change my life and my values that I grew up with?
I think not, no PC idiot or government will make me bend my knee to their will!
God Bless the Queen and Carol Thatcher for Prime Minister! It's about time we had some common sense back in this country!
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Of course, it won't be possible now for Carol to return. The air has been too much soured by the snitch and his or her mates in senior BBC management that sacked Carol and brought the ire of the British viewing public down upon it. In fact, the programme is now ruined. It will now and forever after be associated with this sad episode that the BBC has sought to blow up out of all proportion. If I were Christine, I'd get out of it now and find a better job. As for Adrian, I really don't care what happens to him.
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Someone called Jay Hunt has been doing the rounds of the studios trying to justify the action taken by the BBC in firing Carol Thatcher. On Radio 4's Today programme she is reported by the BBC to have said :"Thatcher's comment had been "deemed by a very substantial proportion of the public to be hugely offensive", Ms Hunt added." Since she also said that there were about twelve people in the room when the remark was made how on earth can she make such a comment? What she really means is that she and the talentless, overpaid Chiles regard it as offensive. I personally don't regard the comment as offensive but DO REGARD as OFFENSIVE the likes of Jay Hunt dictating to the British public what can and cannot be said in conversations. The BBC seems to be littered with pedants like her determined to indoctrinate the masses.
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I read Little Black Sambo to my grandchildren and we have a golliwog which they hug whilst I read to them. what does this make me? I want my grandchildren to grow up with a healthy respect for all huiman beings black white or any other skin colour. Your treatment of Carol Thatcher is dispicable and you should be thoroughly ashamed of what has been done. I would not allow my grandchildren to watch or listen to the foul mouthed Jonathan Ross. The only reason you did not sack him was because his contract would have enabled him to fleece you for even more money than you pay him. You could not afford to buy him out and as he is a greedy money focused man who does not know how to interview people in a gentlemanly way you are stcuk with him. Hard luck BBC bring back Mary Whitehouse she had good British decent standards which you sadly do not have any more. I would not waste my time telling you what I think of Adrian Chiles but I will not be watching the One show any more - nor Jonathan Ross for that matter. You BBC will be the loser in all of this
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I have to say I agree with the majority of the comments above - what is the BBC doing? The BBC should be upholding standards ON AIR - not becoming the thought police of all employees. Since when does a conversation among colleagues become front page news? Whoever was offended at the time should have had the courage to confront Carol immediately. Who among us can honestly say we have never offended anyone we work with - if we are not told how to we know? If Jonathan Ross can return to the screen to be lewd and offensive to millions, yet Carol is treated so badly the world has gone mad.
I am another one who will not be watching the One Show again. Shame on the BBC
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I am utterly appalled by the decision to remove Carol Thatcher. I am no great fan of Carol but I am very concerned at the treatment she has received.
Whoever made the complaint needs to be removed from the show not Carol Thatcher. Perhaps the BBC should reflect on this crass decision and come clean on the number of complaints it is now receiving.
As usual the viewers concerns will probably be ignored and the minority PC brigade will continue to make everyone’s life mould to their own narrow view. BBC have a bit of backbone.
Jonathan Ross’s actions were far more culpable. Carol Thatcher did apologise but apparently she has to grovel to the PC mob before the BBC can reinstate her. Get a life BBC.
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The thought police are with us... The accuser stays anonymous, the accused is pilloried...
The One Show, at best a pale imitation of "Tonight" at worst a ball of slimy putty to fill the gap between the news and Eastenders as cheaply as possible - except, of course, for Mr Child's salary...
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I am utterly dismayed and angry at the way that Adrian n Co have treated Carol Thatcher. Its a political anti-Thatcher smear hoping to gain some exposure and heap some humilitaion on Ms Thatcher. I am a Labour voter so this isnt me defending the Thatcher dynasty.
Jo Brand has a nerve complining (if true) -she has one of the most disgusting mouths on TV and at times I cringe with embarrassment at her vile diatribe. Albeit it funny !!!
You should all be ashamed of yourselves - if thats the set up of the show I wouldnt wish to be associated with people like that if i was invited on the show.
I will not be watching the programme in the future despite being an avid viewer for a long time. It doesnt sit well with me that you have charcaters like that.
has this something to do with Comic Relief and wanting to maximise publicity by playing a race card? I doubt whether sensible members of the balck community would have been offended by it - however they didnt but now it has been designed to attack Carol and her privacy by making it public.
You are all hypocrites and I would encourage all viwers - balck and white - to switch off and stop being manipulated in this way.
Very dissapointed.
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My best friend and her husband (white English) have worked for a number of years in the Caribbean islands on a boat. They love it there. However, she is frequently called a "white witch" in the markets when she goes shopping there.
She does not find it offensive.
I am called a Pommy in Australia and NZ.
My Irish friends are called Paddy.
Nobody is offended except perhaps Ainsley Harriot who appeared on Matthew Wright's show this morning.
Plenty of black and asians have broadcast that they are not offended, likewise with the Prince Harry PRIVATE remark about Packi.
Ridiculous. What this has done is to actually cause MORE racial tension as people are up in arms that Carol should be so shamelessly treated by the looney PC British Broadcasting Corporation.
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but hasn't anyone noticed - Adrian Chiles looks very much like a frog.
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I have read all the comments re the "Carol Thatcher affair"and agree with the general thrust of them that how can such a silly matter get blown up out all proportion.My wife and I used to enjoy The One Show.It was original,live and varied in its topics.The presenters were all "characters" in the best sense of the word.It is a black day for the programme when it is getting publicity,in our opinion,for all the wrong reasons.I regret to say that it has now lost all its "niceness" if that is the right word.When one sees "The One Show" bracketed with Jonathen Ross in a public debate something has gone very wrong at the BBC.
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Can anybody tell me why the clip the BBC showed on 'Breakfast' news this morning showed Carrol in the jungle from I'm a Celebrity. They could just as easily have shown her on the Andrew Marr show!
The BBC are intent on reporting this story to suit their own interests in a very unbalanced way.
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I seriously want to suggest a programme idea.
It has become apparent that management skills in the UK are not as good as they used to be. We were famous for our organising and decision making abilities after all. Why this decline?
How about taking management and middle management personnel from various big organisations in the country and giving them various common sense tests etc OR invite different europeon countries to compare and contrast? Sound too dull? Well it could always be dumbed down but I think there would be quite a good audience. What do you think?
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If Adrian Chiles and Jo Brand are offended by the word Golliwog said in jest in private they are bigger hypocrites than I could have dreamed possible.
The BBC does not deserve to survive with mangement who so badly misunderstand the British sense of humour and proportion
Bring back Carol Thatcher immediately
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i HAVE SENT THIS TO MY ADDRESS BOOK AND HOPE WE GET SOME ACTION AGAINIST THE SNITCHES
BYE BYE ADRAIN UR A DISGRACE
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Chiles and Blakely should be removed from the One show. Carol T would do a much better job she has far greater presence and ability. She would be successful whatever her name. As for Miss Hunt on Radio 4, would someone please tell her that screaming down the mike will not fool anyone.
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Don't watch the One show until she is
Boycott Comic Relief - (Jo Brand was one the One Show to promote to Comic Relief)
Give your money to the Gaza appeal instead - let the BBC really know enough is enough this is one step too far !
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I'm offended by being threatened with prison if I don't pay for the BBC with its liberal fascists and their biased cultural Marxism -- PC -- agenda.
I doubt Carol would want to work with you again; you dull, petty, small-minded, pompous people. Get over yourselves.
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I used to believe that the BBC was unbiased, but have sadly been misinformed.
The pretence of an explanation of the shabby treatment of Carol Thatcher by your BBC stooge was pathetic in the extreme. to say that the term Golliwog cannot be used in public simply reflects a very narrow-minded attitude which is increasingly being adopted by the BBC.
You seem to forget that there are many older people who really resent the way that political correctness is making the news, instead of presenting the facts. The BBC took exception to the spin doctors employed by the Government, yet here you are doing the same thing. I personally do not like Carol Thatcher, but I do respect her rights to speak her opinions in private. The Jonathon Ross show makes much play of the 'Green room' conversations, and I suspect the that many more of the comments of that show should not be broadcast, but then what would happen to your viewing figures?
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Another vote for Carol!
The BBC encourages many comedians who ridicule, ON AIR, the elderly, the Welsh, Scots, Liverpuddlians, Tories..... That's fine, we get over it!
But why do you consistently single out black people to be protected against ridicule? Do you think they are so pathetic they can't stand ridicule? Do you think they are not part of our community, and therefore can't take a bit of ridicule like the rest of us, and get over it?
Surely THAT'S racism, not likening someone's hair to a golliwog's, in jest!
All the best, Carol, I hope you soon get another job, with a more enlightened programme!
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As for the peson who was interviewed on Breakfast T V .this morning she said there were 12 people in the room when thase so called remarks were said ,including adrian chiles and jo brand ,, WHY O WHY dont the BBC say who reported this lovely person... chiles thinks he is above evrything and as afor jo brand what comes out of her mouthis just pure filth
Dont the BBC listen to the licence payers....at all are they a law unto themselves????
This show now will decline further untill it is taken of air ....and all because some DO GOODER decided to report a private conversation by a lovely and jolly lady carol
GOOD RIDDENS TO CHILES AND BLEAKLEY AND CO AND I HOPE THERE CAREEERS GO FROM BAD TO WORSE
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I shall not watch The One Show until Carol Thatcher is reinstated. I believe the BBC is a disgrace, especially in view of their stand on the Gaza Appeal.
Jo Brand sails 'far closer to wind' with her road show!
The people who complained and sacked Carol should be made to take the same punishment that Jonathon Ross took, and be named and shamed. Of course, these politically correct people work in the shadows, ruining this country!
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Why are you at BBC being so vindictive to Carol Thatcher,for a remark made of air in the Privacy of the Green Room.Ms Thatcher has apologised for it.Move on..the event's over!. You showed enormous forgiveness to Jonathan Ross when he made far worse remarks on air.
Could it be someone is (Childishly) taking this out of proportion because her name is
Thatcher....
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What must the atmosphere be like at the BBC now? Before you say anything, you have to think whether there is someone who will snitch on you. You have to be very careful before making a joke in case it is viewed as offensive. What a life, what a job. The BBC is so PC that it an institution gone bonkers. I will not be watching the One Show again as I don't like snitchers on private conversations!!
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I'd like to say that I think the one show was right to discontinue working with Carol Thatcher and I am glad that decisive action has been taken against the use of offensive language. The fact that she thinks it's ok to use racial slurs in jest or in private really worries me and I am horrified to see how many members of the public have stood up to say they agree with her.
Do these people really think that it is ok to talk about black people in offensive and belittling terms so long as you do it behind their backs?
The suggestion that Carol is being victimised because of who her mother is is laughable. The odious woman wouldn't even have had a job with the One Show to begin with if she wasn't Mrs T's daughter. I hope never to see her being paid licence fee money again.
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Did you hear the Controller of BBC1 on the Today programme this morning giving her so well rehearsed answers? This ludicrous woman seems to think that if you spew out filth on air and then say you're sorry everything's alright. But if you have a private conversation in the BBC Green Room and say something that's not PC then you have to be fired. When the BBC employs executives like this you begin to realise why the Corporation is not the organisation it once was and is in the trouble that it's in.
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I am very upset about the sacking of Carol Thatcher from the One Show for making an 'off air' comment which should have frankly stayed in the green room. I always looked forward to her parts in the shows as she always made it so interesting. What about the Jonathan Ross incident ? In my opinion he should have lost his job as to make a highly indecent telephone call to a respected member of the acting fraternity about a member of his family was disgusting and I have never listened to his show since. Both I and my husband will be boycotting the One Show from now on, until Miss Thatcher is re-instated. Wake up BBC this is not how the world goes around after all a 'black lady' called the Jeremy Vine show to say she was fed up with the white population defending black people.
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Whether it was a private conversation or not is irrelevant.
Carol Thatcher did not make a racial slur - she said that a person looked like a fictional character. Personally I think Adrian Chiles looks a bit like Paddington Bear, but I don't think I would be sacked for it.
Lets's get some perspective here. Has anybody who was actually there said they were offended? If so, who?
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I concur with all the comments sent so far on the subject of Carol Thatcher. Jo Brand and Adrian Childs should get a life. I will certainly not be watching the show again! It's about time we all stood up to these PC idiots!
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I wish to add my voice to the general outcry and say how pathetic the BBC looks over its shabby treatment of Carol Thatcher. The worst kind of evil minded people hide behind PC. I will never watch The One Show again - by the way, Adrian Chiles looks like a Mr Potato Man.
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Can only concur with the other comments from disappointed (ex)watchers of the show who are furious at the treatment of C Thatcher. This household has always had a race to turn off J Ross, now we shall be hitting the button to avoid A. Chiles and J. Brand . If the BBC is the nation's flagship no wonder we are the laughing stock of Europe.
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Please sign the petiition to have Carol re-instated on the one Show ...
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Don't watch the One show until she is
please get rid of Adrian Chiles
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I agree totally with other correspondents regarding the double standards with regard to Ross and Thatcher. What do we the publice know of the actual conversation in the Green Room? The sick braodcast by Ross is there for all to hear.
Having been regular viewers of the One Show my husband and I have vowed Never to watch again. Adrian Chiles has so much media exposure on the BBC that he now obviously thinks he can influence the viewers political views. I would opt out of the licence fee if possible.
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To be against racism is not to be 'PC' it is to be against racism which is insidious, offensive and to be challenged wherever it is encountered. I think we should all be careful what we say to avoid causing hurt, distress or offense to anyone - but people in the public eye need to take extra care. To say something is a joke is irrelevant - it does not make the comment not racist. Carol Thatcher was also not in private, she was in a public place where many people could hear her.
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I cannot believe the petty mindedness of the BBC in axing Carol Thatcher from the show. She is a brilliant presenter and a breath of fresh air! Political correctness has gone mad. A gollywog! I am 63 and had a much loved gollywog in my toy cupboard and two of my children had them. Clowns also. Would such action have been taken if Carol had called someone a clown? Did the person she joked about take offence I wonder. It was a JOKE and I am surprised that the people that heard her comment acted in such a tittle tattle manner. Shame on them. My husband and I love the One Show, but I am afraid we take a different view now. We pay our TV licence and say bring Carol back. We have so much else to criticise on tv programmes, swearing etc. are the perpetrators of such language axed? No of course not. Incidently, I am white and don't mind being called chalky!
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Carol thatcher should know better, I have watched the news and find it quite interesting how strongly some conservatives have defended her. She work in the media and knows how it works she should appologise and maybe in time it will be forgotten.
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Carol Thatcher's remarks are reported to have upset a dozen individuals in the green room, resulting in her being banned from appearing on the program again. Is it reasonable to assume that Jonathon Ross, whose remarks offended thousands will also be banned from appearing as a guest on the program?
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Time for Mark Thompson to go.
He cant keep his people in line - every week someone is being damned by so called managers. No wonder the Beeb is in a mess - over paid - over opinionated over zelous and for teh large part talentless.
Come on what is so special about Jon Ross to command the salary we are paying him - I mean seriuosly - are u telling me he is worth the money? ITS OUR MONEY !!!
Sling ya hook Chiles and as for Jo Brand - filthly mouthed ****.
I think that the ComicRelief possie has something to do with this - more overpaid chuckle bunnies lookking fro some free exposure to rejuvenate the flagging careers.
Sick of the lot em
Send the monet to Gaza instead and boycott ComicRelief - theres a sniff of their involvement in all of this for sure.
BOYCOTT COMICRELIEF AND SUPPORT GAZA
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I am disappointed that Carol Thatcher holds the kind of views that would allow her to refer to anyone as a golliwog, whether on air or not.
For this reason I agree with the decision to drop her from the One Show which I shall definitely continue to watch.
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I really am fed up of hearing people fawning over flawed celebrities. David frost last night going on about mohammed ali, fair comment he was extreemly good at what he did but it should also be mentioned his corner cheated to keep him in the fight with henry cooper. He also publicly insulted joe frasier that badly joe used it as his inspiration to beat him. Some people do the same with maradonna he blatently cheated several times by handling the ball.
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I too am appalled at the treatment of Carol Thatcher. The BBC should really get a sense of proportion. As has been said, J Ross made his statement on air and was only suspended. C Thatcher made the comment in private and is sacked. That action is not proportional. I suspect the foul mouthed and left wing Jo Brand used the opportunity to have a go at Carol's mother. Come on BBC, name the accuser!!
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I am no lover of Ms Thatcher, but her sacking has certainly brought out many viewers feelings on the subject. What bothers me is the double standards of the BBC, allowing Mr. Ross to keep his job and only a couple of days after the downfall of Ms Thatcher allows D. Frost to insult Roman Catholics. There should be on rule, either they should all be sacked or none of them should be and by reinstating Mr. Ross, the BBC has seemingly made their decision, so should reinstate Ms Thatcher. Another view point which has shown itself very strongly is the disregard many viewers have for Mr. Chiles, perhaps the BBC should review it's presenters of the One Show, but before appointing them ensure they have training on presenting.
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Shame on you Arian Childs and Jo Brand. You have both lost my respect. Pathetic!
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thank goodness someone has found an excuse to get rid of carol thatcher.
she is the most boring character employed by the bbc.
please don't bring her back.
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The smell of hypocrisy has reached us here in Berkshire. A comment made in private, not broadcast leads to the sacking of Carol Thatcher while Jonathon Ross broadcasts filth and stays in his job with no apparent remorse or regret. What an indictment of the BBC's muddled and spurious criteria regarding taste. Jo Brand and Adrian Chiles examples of political correctness? You're having a laugh! Perhaps we should be sending envelopes containing unmentionables to Brands address. I will be joining friends and colleagues in refusing to continue to watch The One Show which is a pity as it has been a very good show, but by removing originality and character from the show it will be diminished. Perhaps we should call you the politically correct Bland Broadcasting Corporation. What an awful working atmosphere you must have engendered that workmates can go running to teacher to score brownie points and wreck anothers career with over reaction. Pathetic, shame on you all. John Alkin
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BBC management seems to have completely lost the plot and the confidence of the vast majority of the BBC's listeners and viewers. What has gone wrong? Managers need to be retrained to focus on the values of the vast majority and not to be so sensitive to an imagined minority who just might be offended.
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Thank you BBC for taking a stand against yet another example of subconscious racism. Just because Ms Thatcher used to have a famous mother doesn't mean she can spout off wherever she wants - and in the Green Room with 12 other people present is NOT in private. She is a TV personality, for better or worse, and so should keep her so-called jests to herself. I also grew up with golliwogs on jamjars, but can see how the term can be offensive to many people, black of white.
You have to be fairly inconsiderate of neighbours, colleagues, friends and strangers to think that it is not a racist term. I wonder how many of these people getting so indignant about this also spoke out in support of Prince Harry. There's not a lot of difference between what Carol said and what Prince Harry said. Neither word has any place in a modern multicultural society - and neither does anyone who thinks they should.
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I think Carol Thatcher has been very badly treated by the BBC. Some of the things that Jo Brand says on screen are outrageous but people just laugh and Jonathon Ross should not be within hailing distance of the beeb let alone on screen. Double standards are not in it. It stinks. And Ms.Hunt trying to defend the BBC's actions was a joke. Miss Thatcher made an apology, if one was nacessary, but this was deemed unacceptable. Why!!! It was an apology. And as for Brand and Chiles being shocked; they need to get into the real world. Anyway, that's another program I will not be watching again. The One Programme with J.Ross is no longer acceptable to me. I consider their actions and the actions of the editors and producers totally unacceptable and it is not difficult these days to find an alternative channel to watch.
Heerbie Chappell, Old Woking, Surrey.
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Do not sack Carol Thatcher, In my dictionary it says:"Golliwog-a rag doll or mascot in the form of a caricature of a black minstrel."
She should go to the employment tribunal.
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Great show last evening as always-Adrian and Christine are such a good team, hopefully they will remain for a long time. Your programme is the one never to miss programme each day for our household.
Many thanks to all involved
John
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Carol Thatcher's comment was not racist. Golliwogs existed in my childhood and were a much loved rag doll toy and a symbol on a jam pot with a frizzy hairstyle, surely we are not denying that they existed?
Bring back Carol and let's be sensible about all this.
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Host_Ryan wrote “The remark made by Carol Thatcher in The One Show Green Room last Thursday caused considerable offence”. The racist comment of the BBC’s Greg Dyke that BBC employees were hideously white caused offence to thousands of people, not just a maximum of 12, yet the BBC made no move to get rid of him. The BBC are just a bunch of homogenophobic racists.
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On your website today it says amongst other things "Did Hugh Grant get it off with...." which is virtually a Jonathan Ross remark but attributed to Adrian Chiles. So what I perceive as obscene - i.e. a broadcast reference to personal intimacy, is OK but a private remark in a private room (Or are the public allowed in your Green Rooms?) is not permissible? Auntie Beeb, that great guardian of free speech, has once again got her knickers in a twist. As someone who has suffered severely as a result of the BBC's twisted values on free speech in the past I am on the side of Carol Thatcher. She should not be made to publicly grovel for the sake of your sour and perverse political correctnesses. I suspect Jo Brand has a more than passive role in all this since she is a past Mistress of the art of poisonous jibe. Come clean, One Show, just grow up and get on with everyday journalism like everyday journalists.....for now, at least, you have lost the viewers in this household.
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Even the President apologised for getting it wrong yesterday.
BBC, be brave and admit that you got it totally wrong in firing Carol Thatcher( or do you know better than the 99% of licence payers contributing to the many blogs on this subject?).
You would gain much-needed browny- points(can I say that?) if you announced your climbdown on toight's programme
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Look for another job Christine, this show is tainted.
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Thanks to everyone who has signed the petition, please please continue to sign. It is a very frightening thought to think that something said in general conversation could be responsible for a person losing their job. Didn't that used to be called a stab in the back - something we all need to worry about whatever our colour or creed.
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/1thatc8/petition.html
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Oh dear Fredmarg (comment 237). Just because golliwogs existed years ago, doesn't mean that it is an acceptable term for black people. People used to use the N word freely, and blacks were abused and worse. Do you want all of that back just because you want freedom of speech? Maybe you do, in which case shame on you.
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I think that Mr chiles and Miss Bleakley need to resign from the one show ASAP.
And let us have two intelligent presenters
One of them Carol..
BBC tell the licence payers who reported poor carol
IF YOU DARE?
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I would like to endorse the comments made by most of the above. What happened to freedom of speech in this country. Comments made in private, no matter how offensive, should remain private. What happens next people in pubs informing on each other??? Do not like Carol Thatcher as a presenter (prefer her to Ross) but she has been very unfairly treated.
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Carol Thatcher should not have been dropped from The One Show. The hypocrisy shown by the BBC in this case is jaw-dropping. There are numerous examples of 'celebrities' favoured by the Corporation who have said the most outrageous and offensive things. Of course the issue is that their remarks only offended people who are not part of the BBC's liberal, left of centre establishment. Jo Brand is particularly offensive and obscene on occasions. I thought about mailing the BBC about this issue, but did not get round to it until I saw a spokesman expain that if Carol Thatcher had recanted her sin and undergone re-education, she could have been saved. Anyone there read 'Wild Swans'? I remember a time when the BBC did give airspace to original, alternative comedians and the comedy could be challenging and , in your own words, 'edgy'. It is now so predictable that I could write the scripts for you.
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Snitch 'n' Tell
Bye Bye Adrian - you are tainted
Shame on you
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Carol Thatcher has been very poorly treated by everyone concerned. This ridiculous situation should never have occured. Where is commensense at the management level of the BBC?
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Just looked at the numbers of comments on the One Show Blog over the last few weeks. The average is between 15 and 25.
Noticed that the comments over the last few days (mainly objecting to the treatment of Carol Thatcher (Wollygate!) are well over 250 that is 10 times the usual comment.
Can we deduce that the programme is so unworthy of comment that people can't be bothered to blog....
or has this topic really got under the skin of ordinary people ?
If you feel strongly like I do that the BBC has got this wrong then please sign up to the petition
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or complain to the BBC
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Whatever one's feeling about Carol's use of the G word, in whatever context it was used, I do not feel that the BBC's response is just and equitable by comparison with the treatment of J Ross by other BBC Executives.
If you feel the same let them know and vote with your remote.... stop watching the One Show.
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Isn't it a shame that the golliwog doll is now tainted - i agree by white - people's interpretation of it in the past. This character was created as a literary character for children and the original model can now be viewed at the Museum of Childhood in London.
The Golliwog was never intented to be racist or derogatory in any way to black people and in my opinion we should resurrect the Golliwog to his original intended status, that way we can change people's views and the Golliwog can once again enjoy it's status as a black doll played with harmlessly by children all over the world.
I do not believe Carol's comments were meant to be racist, I cannot see the harm in saying that someone looks like a golliwog doll.
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I agree with everyone else who has written in support of Carol Thatcher and I agree with all those who say they do not want to watch The One Show any more.
If journalists were present in the Green Room when Carol Thatcher made her comment, then they did not need Adrian Chiles or Jo Brand to report the incident to them, but I am sure Chiles could have taken the initiative in moderating the blast of PC pettiness that followed. He must take most of the responsibility for this mean action.
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The very sad thing is that the age of the Quizling is back amungst us , as apparently this useless Government of ours appear to condone this type of action in all walks of life . Adrian C and many others at the BBC must have been recruited by them judging the answers/replies slithering there way out of Boardroom.
The Gone show as far as i am concerned now , Rename it An Hour with Thatcher and Phil Tufnell as that would be very humorous .
The BBC management and a Snakes belly have a lot in common.
Carol you are a STAR.
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have signed the PETITION come on licence fee payers
Show the BBC that we have rights as well are we becoming a republic??
GET CAROL BACK NOW
come into the real world
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Host Ryan's responses confirm my long held belief that the cultural bias within the BBC is now so strong that they do not recognise their own own gross illiberality.
Jo Brand et.al. find it perfectly acceptable to use foul language to abuse white middle class men. Frankly I rather think I would prefer to be a Golliwog than to be associated with a National culture that reacts with such venom towards anybody who does not share the BBC's selectively sanctimonious views.
Adrian Childs himself has previously reacted with horror and scorn towards interviewees to do not share his political views. He takes it as absolutely a given fact that everybody must share his distaste of non PC activities, since all of his acquantance at the BEEB shae tham also.
The only entertaining aspect of the BBC's sordid treatment of Carol Thatcher is that I have often though how much Adrian looks like a Golliwog himself... - or is such a comment too offensive for the BBC's authoritarian censorship department?
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I was planning to write a long comment here about the disgusting treatment of Carol Thatcher by the Politically Correct activists at the Biased Broadcasting Corporation. But I see that I don't need to. 250 people have already made the point very eloquently. So far I have not been able to find one in support of the BBC. Do you have any idea how out of touch you are with popular opinion, BBC? The people, who pay the license fee, that pays your salaries?
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Petition duely signed.
Licence fee should be cancelled.
Sell the BEEB to Richard Branson as he would clean it up .
British Virgin TV has a nice ring to it .
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Modern Communications present us with a problem. It allows those, who in the normal run of life would not feature in our world, to dictate their version of it with power and reach. Carol Thatchers treatment by the BBC, highlights this beautifully.
Those that present and manage at the BBC are qualified in a number of things. Childs is a presenter and Brand is a..something. They do not have the right to make judgements on anything, just to do their job. But they do
The fact that they and the BBC can come to such a judgement suggests that the power given to them because of their communicating power has gone to their head. You at the BBC work for us, I wouldn't pay you a BBC tax but I have no choice. You are dangerous, a building filled with people making decisions and representations way outside their remit. 1984 here we come. Time for the license fee and most of you to go
Brand & Ross are OK then? Insulting a Jewish man, that's not a problem in your view?
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If the senior executives of 'The One Show' are so weak that they cannot even allow off-screen non-politically correct comments then there is no hope for the programme to produce sound open-minded comment on- screen.The views aired in the programmes must obviously reflect the very narrow-minded attitude of the management/presenters, and as such make the programme worthless and not worth watching.
We will vote with our choice of viewing from now on.
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The One Snitcher Show
Bye Bye Adrian - you back stabbing sanctiminious ****
The PC 'do-gooders' are ruining our country its time to strike a sense of balance.
Our sense of values are going where we snitch on our freinds, collegues and neighbours.
Shame on you - BOYCOTT COMIC RELIEF - its only a vehicle for failing celebrities to boost their flagging careers - and we buy into it.
BOYCOTT COMIC RELIEF - SUPPORT GAZA
BOYCOTT COMIC RELIEF - SUPPORT GAZA
BOYCOTT COMIC RELIEF - SUPPORT GAZA
BOYCOTT COMIC RELIEF - SUPPORT GAZA
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We have to agree with all the others who are disgusted at the treatment that Carol Thatcher has received. Maybe the person who grassed should remember that for every finger that you point three point back at you.
Whatever happened to free speech?
Shame on you BBC and we will also not be tuning in to The One Show again
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Hi pathetic BBC - you obviously haven't got the guts to put all the comments on the blog - today is tht 5th and I'm pretty sure there must be thousands more comments come in - you are worse than the people you criticize - you don't stand up and take the rap when you make a WRONG, WRONG, decision. The Hunt woman should go - what a holier than thou COW
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I see from your front page that the Carole Thatcher issue is not being discussed... so how come you have in excess of 250 comments. The BBC attitude to Carole Thatcher making remarks off air is disgraceful. The BBC quite happily lets that rude, crude, foul mouthed presenter called Jonathon Ross return to the airwaves after abusing an elderly Jewish gentleman but sacks Carole Thatcher for making remarks in the Green Room which is presumably arranged for the poor presenters and guests to wind down after the huge stress of presenting a 29minute show. This was also a show in which that foul mouthed female person named Jo Brand happened to be one of the guests. So your leftie producer has something against Margaret Thatcher. Pity your BBC 1 Controller can't leave her prejudices at home! Absolutey disgraceful!
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englishinbern....your comments are clear
evidence of the extent of PC lunacy that is poisoning our culture including the BBC.
In the first place "subconscious racism" doesnt exist ..even in the "academic" psychbabble textbooks...
and secondly, whilst many of the sociobabble textbooks used to brainwash
our children do include the nonsense term
"multicultural society"...any honest sociologist (if you can get one to put his/her head above the parapet..unlikely i know if they want to keep their job) would tell you a society is defined by its culture (singular)...thats what culture means.."multicultural society" is therefore a contradiction in terms..even the radical activists in the equal opps industry replaced it with "anti-racism" twenty years ago...God help us all...
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For some reason my comment has been removed from the board. Not sure why, maybe too near the truth
My point was that this:
If Thatcher is banned from the One Show but not from BBC, does that mean that the One Show audience is separate from the general BBC audience?
Either she has offended so many viewers that she cannot be trusted or accepted on the air again.....OR ....
....could it jsut be that the only people she upset are a small number of the One Show staff ?
If the latter is the case, come clean quickly before you self-destruct
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I have watched The One Show from the start. It will NO LONGER be viewed in our household following the disgusting treatment of Carol Thatcher. What do you people not understand about a private conversation and how about a level playing field compared to comments made by Ross and others on air. I am sure Carol is totally unmoved by the huge PC overreaction of the BBC.
Will any comment be made on the show tonight? Most of us won't know as we are voting with our remote controls.
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Why cant the BBC not tell us the truth who snitched on Carol
We pay there salary,s come clean or are there more secrets you dont want us to know about like the relationship between chiles abd beakley???
expect this will be removed...
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We have been avid watchers of The One Show since its start. We are completely disappointed and apalled at the behaviour towards Carol Thatcher. If Adrian is the one that blew the whistle then perhaps he should go back to Croatia. We are surprised he can sink so low.
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I am so amazed and confounded by the sacking of Carol Thatcher, due to her 'off the air' remark that has been seen as racist.
Are we so PC, that people do not have a right to say, frankly harmless things, in private, without this sort of outcome?
We watch 'The One Show' every evening, and have always found Carol Thatcher's reporting to be intelligent, funny, warm, caring and so entertaining, infact quite a highlight.
Adrian Chiles is a dull presenter and myself and many of my friends and colleagues who watch the show, feel like watching Adrian is like watching paint dry. Thank goodness for Christine, Hardeep, Carol and other contributors to the show, who keep it keen and interesting and witty.
I am incensed that Mr Chiles and Ms Brand 'reported' Carol Thatcher for her Gollywog comment in the first place.
Of course, Ms Brand has the purest of dialogue when in the public arena???? I think not!
This country has just seen the BBC reinstate Jonathan Ross, after a three month slap on the wrist, for something far more lewd, childish,sexist, damaging and insulting THAT WENT TO AIR................
Come on now BBC, is this sexism.....a witch hunt......?
Please bring Carol Thatcher back to 'The One Show,' and perhaps give her Adrian Chiles job?
I work in the media, and everyone that I know is so disgusted with this decision.
Do the right thing, give Ms Thatcher her role in the show back, and for goodness sake allow a light hearted comment to stay where it belonged, where it was spoken, IN PRIVATE IN A GREEEN ROOM ...........
Everyone I know will be voting with their remote control, and will not be watching this show again, unless the decision to axe Carol is reversed.
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In relation to the Jonathan Ross saga, I think Carol Thatcher has done nothing to be sacked for!
I will never watch 'The One Show' again, and I used to watch it regularly.
How much sillier is the BBC going to get! A golliwog is a toy and nothing to do with any race of people.
Surely we can have a conversation without worrying about every word we utter.
I am very cross about this issue and hope you will take notice of all the favourable comments about Carol.
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Bye bye One Show - pathetic. Get a presenter who can string a sentence together and I might watch you again. About time some of you tried living in the real world.
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This is the first time I have felt incensed enough to take the effort and comment. The sacking of Carol Thatcher for a comment said in private, which was not even meant to be construed as racist, is a travesty of justice. This makes the BBC suspension of Jonathon Ross look totally hypocritical. This over the top political correctness just has to stop - as far as I can see it was an innocent comment taken out of context. I also grew up with the much loved Robertsons golly. Whoever made the decision to sack her should apologise and reinstate her immediately. Whoever leaked her private off air comment in the first place obviously did this deliberately as a personal vendetta.
If I was Carol I would sue the BBC for unfair dismissal - I would rather my licence fee went towards paying her compensation than the outrageous sum paid to Jonathan Ross.
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The conversation between Carol Thatcher and others in the green room was private. Someone didn't like what Carol allegedly said and that person went running off to "Auntie" to snitch.
The BBC has sacked Carol because they don't like what she is reported to have said in the green room which happens to be, as they have said, "on their premises", in other words they have banned freedom of speech for Carol but not for Jonathan Ross.
The person to whom Carol allegedly referred was not present, so he could hardly be upset.
Where is the common sense in all of this?
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I know it was an unwise word to use but I just spotted this on Wikipedia describing the word Golliwog. Note that the comment was reported by the BBC and only 8 years ago
In a statement reported by the BBC, Virginia (Ginny) C Knox, previously brand director for Robertson's and now Chief Operating Officer of the Culinary Brands Division of RHM, told the Herald Newspaper in Scotland in 2001 that the decision to remove the Golly (Golliwogg) symbol from Robertson's jam and marmalade jars was taken after research found that children were not familiar with the character, although it still appealed to the older generations. "We sell 45 million jars of jam and marmalade each year and they have pretty much all got Golly on them," said Ms Knox. "We also sell 250,000 Golly badges to collectors and only get 10 letters a year from people who don't like the Golliwogg image".[
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I am also disgusted at your treatment of Carol Thatcher.
Please tell Adrian to get a life.
If she is not re-instated very soon you will have lost another 2 viewers ie my wfe and I.
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I think Jay Hunt should be made to write out the word golliwog one thousand times and then collect her P45.
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Supporters of Carol should also register a formal complaint here ...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/
One Show Bullies - you will not get away with it
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Oh come on BBC get a life !!! What Carol Thatcher said is no big deal and in any event it was a PRIVATE conversation.
Gollywog soft toys/dolls are very popular here in Norn Iron........if you don't believe me just as the lovely Christine.
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280. At 2:52pm on 05 Feb 2009, Little-Tyke wrote:
I think Jay Hunt should be made to write out the word golliwog one thousand times and then collect her P45.
Well said but it would undoubtedly take her a week or two to write them as she can't be very bright , only a minion pushed to the fore with a big stick at her back nodoubt.
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Oh come on BBC get a life !!! What Carol Thatcher said is no big deal and in any event it was a PRIVATE conversation.
Gollywog soft toys/dolls are very popular here in Norn Iron........if you don't believe me just ask the lovely Christine.
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The One Show is the highlight of my evening -but after the atrocious treatment of Carol Thatcher I am considering whether to watch again - and before you say it - no, I am not a raving Tory - in fact I absolutely despised her mother's politics. I am proud to be a Guardian reader and a socialist.... but I think this is political correctness gone mad! Carol Thatcher's zany humour brought a breath of fresh air into television and I shall miss her
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I agree with comments 284 and 283.
And what a vile person Ms Hunt is. Heaven help us all if that is the controller of BBC1 that explains why programming is so bad at the moment.
Heads should roll-- and not Ms Thatcher's. Wossy still is there and gets away with vile, foul language. P45 for table one please!!!!!!
Table one is where Ms Hunt is seated!
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No-one cares about other shows only about what has been done to Carole Thatcher.
She is of an age, like me, whereby golliwogs were items of love, like teddy bears. If someone looked like a gollywog, then it would not necessarily be an insult, it might simply be a simple description, which might actually be viable. These days it might be simpler to say he looks like Lisa Simpson, but it would not be an insult.
Black people describe their women as bitches and talk about treating them like trash on recordings. How does the BBC justify using any such recordings on any of its programmes or stations?
Carole Thatcher is a simple soul, who wouldn't hurt a fly, she is a great British eccentric. She meant no harm by her comment so why should she apologise.
I find it offensive that the BBC uses boring unattractive men as presenters of programmes when women deserve to see handsome men. I don't want to see the man next door nor listen to his dull mutterings. I want exciting interesting and handsome men to look anat and listen to.
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I am not a particular fan of the One Show because of Adrian Chiles. He's always looking at the camera, posing and BUTTING-IN ,and he sure does look down his nose at you with that awful smarmy grin on his face. The likes of guests, Carol, Hardeep, Dom and co-presenters are the real stars of the show and bring a ray of sunshine! Whoever snitched on Carol should think shame on themselves. How childish...and who do you think looks like that...I bet he was a right mummy's boy!
I say bring back Carol as the shows presenter...I am sure she wouldn't "tell tales out of school" as to who said what in the green room.
I am disappointed with the BBC's diabolical reaction....I wonder what you will do with me....when I tell you that I have a certain jam company's golliwog from the 50's! Eat jam Beeb, you can count me out from watching the Snitch and Tell Show.
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Funny thing, my comment supporting Carol written last night doesn't appear on this blog.
My parents taught me that sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me. It wasn't an easy creed to live by, but I think it is sensible and teach the same to my children.
But is this wise? I now find that there isn't a name someone could call me that would cause me mortifying offense. In this day and age, that is turning into a significant handicap. What power it is to get someone sacked because they offended you!
So now I want to change that. As such I would be grateful if the BBC could register my notice to stop using the word "nut" when talking about people. It is a pejorative and as my mother was born in Brazil, you have believe me how very totally offense I regard the word. Do you think you can get that into your next amendment of your BBC Speak manual? As a paid up licensee, I look forward to receiving my fair measure of respect.
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I for one think the One Show has acted very courageously in this matter: if we want to make this sort of casual racism a thing of the past, then we need to maintain standards in public life very stringently.
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Oh and I meant to say please sign up to the Bring Back Carol Thatcher petition.
http://www.petitiononline.com/1thatc8/petition.html
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Are Adrian Chiles and Jo Brand whiter than white,if they are the folk who complained about Carol Thatcher?
Carol T is expected to apologise and revise her words in future. Could we request the same from Jo Brand as I know I am not alone in finding her comedian act deeply offensive. Or at least the few seconds I have ever heard from her!
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My commenst have also been removed so even we are not immune to censure of the BBC.
Scrap the lcense fee and play on even playing field with the other broadcasters.
The days when the Beeb were seen as the best of British has now been ruined by Mark Thompson and he talentless cronies.
Shame and dissapointment all around.
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Sack the whole dam crew and start again with Carol Thatcher and Tuffers at the helm , forthwith before writs start to fly.
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Carol Thatcher is obviously disliked by some of the people working on The One Show and they were looking for any excuse to get her fired. The odd thing is that if she's not fit to work in one part of the BBC why is she allowed to work for another? Ridiculous, isn't it? How will it end? The Controller of BBC1, the ludicrous Jay Hunt, will climb down and offer Carol different work on a new show. Thank God I no longer work for the BBC, an organisation which I had enormous respect for.
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the bbc has shot itself in the foot yet again!!!!j. ross can utter filth and so can jo brand but poor carol only likening someone to the golly on a jam pot gets kicked out.
she is not a racist but a delightful loveley out spoken person who wouln't harm a fly.
as for jo brand being offended ----the fact that she is given any air time i fine offensive.
chris jones
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For the past year I have been an avid watcher of The One Show - I have also been a fan of Adrian Chiles - in all his various roles. However, I am absolutely furious at the treatment meted out to Carol Thatcher - one of the reasons I found Adrian Chiles so appealing was that he appeared not to be so infected by the Political Correctness which is very evident from most of the rest of the B.B.C. Obviously I was completely mistaken. In future I will not be watching The One Show or any other show with Adrian Chiles, et al. I would obviously include Jo Brand in this comment but I never willingly watch Jo Brand in the first place - and in fact if I inadvertently find I have tuned into something with her in it I immediately turn off. Why is the BBC so left wing (are you not supposed to be impartial) and so fond of foul mouthed presenters who may be funny but presumably can only be funny if they also use foul language.
Another lost viewer.
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I am also a very disappointed viewer. In the past I have enjoyed watching this show. I found the format of using guests to meet the public fun and I found the presenters of the programme very good. However, in light of this stupid and childish behaviour of the BEEB over Carol's remark, I will no longer be watching.
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Rename the One Show... BIG BROTHER
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I think that some people are frightened that if they do not appear offended by something others may think less of them. For instance whoever thought that what Carole Thatcher said was offensive was probably scared that if they didn't show offence then someone else there might think they were not PC and right-on etc.
I saw some BBC woman on the TV this morning saying that what had been said was gossly and deeply offensive. I dread to think what would happen if she heard something really offensive, like telling a poor old man that you have had sex with his grand-daughter, and it being broadcast on the radio. What Carole said was not offensive, she was describing someone's appearance and using the term she did meant that everyone would immediately know what she meant even if they had not seen the person.
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You were right to sack Carol Thatcher. She appears to have a mind set in which it's OK to refer to non whites in a derogatory fashion. I'm glad you're showing this isn't acceptable to the BBC. The way to deal with this kind of language is to confront it, not overlook it.
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i agree with the majority of the posters in favour of reinstating carole prefably in the snitch chiles position.
i was so irritated when i heard this on the news yesterday i said to my husband thats no more one show in this house. last night was the first night we switched to itv.
In my opinion the bbc has gone pc crazy
people of a certain age were brought up with golliwogs and black dolls.next we will not be able to call black people black.
Its ok for ross to be abusive to people on air
he still retains his job and salary.
bbc are a law unto themselves.
BRING BACK CAROLE
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Why dont all future Guests lined up for the one show ..BAN IT and refuse to appear.....Who wants to be intervieved by a snitch chiles and the pure false reactions of christine
Anyone who fancies Chiles needs ther Eyes testing
tHEY ARE NOT ON THE SAME LEVEL AS CAROL
Thats why he got rid of her,
BTING HER BACK BBC NOW
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Sorry Carol -
I never thought I would defend anyone with the surname Thatcher.
Please add my name to the already long list of viewers who disagree with the treatment of Carol Thatcher.
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I will not feel the same about The One Show again, as Carol Thatcher was my favourite contributor and doubt if I will watch much more. Iwill continue this week to see if there is any on air statement as the least those involved can to is come forward and give their reasons. I felt from the beginning there was more to it than just Chiles and Brand, one of whom is probably not sharp enough and the other I doubt could be bothered, and that it was most likely some over politically correct. youngish female, production person who ran sneakily to the producer. This person should speak on air. The comment was meant to describe the hair style of a particular doll and could be used to describe similar hair of anyone, black or white who happened to have unkempt sticky out hair. Carol knows this and will not sink to the levels of those who demanded an apology and, who I suspect, feel she is someone they cannot compete with. With all the bad language and violence the BBC allows it is unbelievable that such a fuss should be made over this.
How about Adrian, Jo Brand and the production woman/women volunteering for the next series of "I,m a celebrity! "
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BBC and The One Show are a complete disgrace to treat Carol Thatcher in such a dispicable manner. Andrian Childs should put his own house in order before sneaking on decent people like Carol - no doubt he is intimidated by her superior intellect. He is a smug idiot and I will never watch the programme again while he and his frightful co-host appear on it. Perhaps they would do the decent thing and run off together as they are blatently having an affair. Bring back Carol, Mylene and others who are genuine, interesting and talented presenters.
Golliwogs are much loved by anyone over the age of about 30 and I would feel it a compliment to be described as one.
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In the past i have listened to Auntie all over the world and thought very highly of them but i am afraid that they have crossed the line of no return in such a stupid way as to entertain utterings from the a green room (a private place too) of all places and to act on such a person in the manner they have done , the shame is totally on the side of the BEEB for allowing this matter to even be mentioned beyond there walls . As for sacking Carol Thatcher that was and is a cowardly act of a thoughtless person who if had been intelligent would have known better than stab someone in the back for an off the cuff remark, more shame on the so called bosses who allowed this to even surface.
The BEEBs days must be now numbered , sad i know but you reap what you sow .
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Adrian Chiles is the living embodiment of Mr. Potato Head and the worst presenter I have ever had the misfortune of watching. Whatever he's paid we are being ROBBED, we OWN the BBC and I kindly request that you return my license fee. The One Show is the one of the most pointless programmes EVER - its only saving grace is Hardeep Singh Kohli who is actually intelligent and very interesting with a great sense of humour.
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I totally support the view that Carol Thatcher has been treated terribly. I have watched the One Show evry night when able to and have always enjoyed the format and the team. Whoever the 'snitch' was who made public a comment, that was not meant in a racist way, should be ashamed of themselves. I am afraid that as far as the One Show is concerned I will never watch again till Carol returns. Good Bye!!!
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Can't comment on last night's show as we have removed it from Sky+, we used to record it every night, but as from Tuesday we will NOT be watching it again.
Carol Thatcher was a huge contributor to the show and one reason why we watched it, it won't be the same without her and let's face it why would she want to work with people that have such low morals that they would stab a work colleague in the back.
Get a life Chiles and as for Jo Brand she's about the filthiest comedienne on the circuit, kettle, pot and black come to mind.
I hope the Beeb realise they have made themselves the laughing stock of the country if not the World.
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Heard a lot of comments around London today that the BBC (Labour biased) has done this to Carol Thatcher to have a dig at her mother.
I see the Conservatives are higher in the polls than Crash Gordon, so may well be.
Look out BBC you may have to change your backgrounds, ties and bias to blue!
Bring Carol back, she is a national treasure.
Signatures are mounting on the petition and I see most people on this blog think the BBC is well over the top in their actions against her.
Golliwog? Quite a sweet thing really.
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What goes around comes around....lets hope it is very very soon for the LOVE BIRDS sitting on the one show couch
Keep the PETITION GOING EVEYONE
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This evening's paper reports that Jay Hunt ('Beeb Contoller') declares that the show 'prides itself on its diversity'.
Surely some mistake?
She also declares that the BBC does not condone use of words that very substantial numbers of people find offensive.
This from an organisation that constantly and very deliberately insults our ears with unnecessary foul language - thus giving great offence to 'substantial numbers of people...'
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No doubt this is going to generate yet another inquiry which we the licence payer willhave to fund again.
What is Mark Thompson (director General) doing. He has failed in his mission.
Overpaid and pointless staff.
I Think the argunment for continuing with the licence fee is being lost.
The BBC The Britsh Broadcasting Cronies.
When are the British people gonna stop being pushed about - we dont need highly paid pen pushers and arty-farty presenters telling us how to think.
Adrian Chiles MUST go
He is a snitch and a dishonest individual.
Watch out watchout Chiles is about
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Forget golliwogs.
Did my ears deceive me or did David Frost explain that on the sign ' Gay whales against the bomb ' whales was spelt with a HAITCH !! A HAITCH for pity's sake.
I guess that's what a Hoxford Heducation gets you.
He might the world's greatest interviewer, but this was unforgiveable. Next, he'll be saying he should OF known better.
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Oh dear, the BEEB does it again with its double-standards. On one hand it reinstates the sewer minded Ross and on the other hand it metes out rough justice on the easier target of Carol Thatcher.
Could it be a simple matter of having ones PC cake and eating it? After all, sacking Ross would have cost the Corporation 'megabucks' in premature termination of contract whereas Carol Thatcher is understood to have completed her current one on the 'Oneshow' and suggests a cost-free option.
It's pretty obvious that she didn't mean offence and anyway, the comments were off-air and in the 'hallowed' so-called privacy of the Green Room.
So who blew the whistle? Whoever it was should grow up and get to grips with the real world where most intelligent people put these ridiculous PC posturings into the correct adult perspective. I was going to comment on 'pots calling kettles b***k, but that might be misconstrued as 'racist' whatever the word means!!
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The sacking of Carol Thatcher is disgraceful and if the leak was from Adrian I think he should be suspended immediately. How can any guest or reporter ever trust him again if he is likely to 'tell tales' about them to his boss.
If the leak was from Jo Brand she should never again appear on the BBC as she has a 'filthy' so called comedy act.
Her recent suggestion that viewers should post excrement to members of a political party is outrageous.
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Why does the BBC not get a life,what was so wrong with Carol Thatchers remarks,we did used to have dolls by the same name,and a jam jar with the same motive on it,political correctnes gone mad.
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your forgetting that the cuddly toy represented the stereotypical blackman in minstrel costume. where they were represented as ignorants, lazy etc...
so....you tell me, if such a toy should've existed in the first place.
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Jo Brand being upset by something someone said ??
You cannot be serious !!!
J. McEnroe
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My family can't beleive what the Beeb has done to Carol Thatcher. How small minded the corporation has become. Can we not voice our views now in private. Ok Carol was speaking to Adrian Chiles and Jo Brand I understand off camera so how childish of them or someone to report this. She would not have meant this remark. I have met her and she says it how it is, what is wrong with that, obviously a lot these days. How can you compare what she has said off camera to what Jonathan Ross said and still says, and you keep paying him all this money, Our Money by the way. Also how can you compare her with Jo Brand who is more than vulgar. Take out her vulgarity and she has nothing to offer. I was begining to find the One Show more of an advertising gimmick and not watching that often as a resuilt. This issue has made my mind up - My family as a whole willnot be watching from now on. I think Christine is talented - so would suggests she moves on from the childish views of Adrian Chiles, he needs to stick to football with his mates. Do they never make comments about issues close to his heart or is he less than honest with them.
beautifulskippy
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Re 324 Surely the gollies represented the typical black-made up minstrel as played on the Black and White Minstrel show by White
men
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ianchorley
yes......and what do you think? is it right?
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Well it doesnt offend me.nor most of the posters here...
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The treatment of Carol Thatcher is disgraceful, and tells us a lot about the people in the Green room.
Ross made an obscene phone call that was broadcast. He should have been sacked.
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Very unhappy abou the disgusting way Carol Thatcher has been treated.We ill not be watching this show again unless she is reinstated.Sack Chiles he is second rate and interupts decent conversation
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nor does it offend me. but just because it doesn't offend me or implicate me does not mean it's right...that's my opinion anyway.
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I usually enjoy the One Show and find it very entertaining. But, now I feel disinclined to watch it due to the treatment of Carol Thatcher.
Carol was brought up in an era where Gollywogs were part of the nursery and as such well loved. I for one would not have thought her comment racist as my own experience of Gollywogs brings back fine, loving memories of childhood.
Unlike BBC 1 Controller Jay, I do not find Gollywogs grotesque, I consider them to be colourful and cuddly and as a child they consoled me when I was upset.
Please bear in mind the following:
Rascism is not, lest it be thought of.
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How can the BBC think of sacking Carol Thatcher who is a very good original reporter? Better than Mr Ross. I enjoy the One Show but this has made me see the programme in a different light.Whether I watch it again depends on the BBC reversing its decision,seeing sense and reinstating Carol.It was obvious on the programme that Jo Brand didnt like her.
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How many blogs have been censored because they told the truth particularly about Ms. Jay Hunt'sincapacity to distinguish between an off mike conversation and vulgarity on mike. If she does not know the difference beteewn on mike and off mike she is in the wrong company.
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This whole Carol episode is typical of the far left bias of the overpaid idiots who run the BBC.
They quite happily pay obscene sums to the likes of Ross and that unfunny harridan Jo Brand who insult us time after time, but sack Carol for an innocent PRIVATE comment. Perhaps it comes back to the name Thatcher which they all love to hate.
Please. Please add your name to the petition:
http://www.petitiononline.com/1thatc8/petition.html
Until the BBC see sense I shall turn over to the other side.
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All in all, a sadly disappointing performance on the part of the BBC and its defensive controller Ms Hunt, as well as Adrian Chiles. Prevailing opinion would support Carol Thatcher's position, as summarised cogently in today's Telegraph. She may not be an angel, but she is a far cry better woman than some of the others mentioned above, whose wholesome vocabulary is designed primarily to shock.
I would call for an apology by Adrian on behalf of The One Show for having created, or allowing to be created, a situation which brings it into such a state of poor repute.
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shame on you one show reinstate carol and apologise to her ,sack smug self rightous adrian and start listening to viewers and perhaps be brave enough to discuss this on the show tonight
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You've just lost a viewer. As Adrian Chiles and Jo Brand are so deeply offended by such a trivial off air comment in my opinion as gollywog, then I just can't watch such petty minded people again.
Brit, Chink, Paki, Frog, Paddy, so what? Get a life BBC.
Condescending Jay Hunt should be sacked - her interview on the Today programme was sickening.
Jonathon Ross when asking David Cameron if he masturbated as a teenager whilst looking at posters of Margaret Thatcher on air WAS offensive, but the left-biased BBC did nothing then.
I'll watch Channel Four News instead, as I've also given up on the left-wing biased BBC News as well.
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Has everyone gone mad????
What exactly has Carol Thatcher done wrong? She had a private conversation in which she made a private comment and she has got he sack...i bet Jonathan Ross is breathing a huge sigh of relief that his vile, abusive, shocking, upsetting comments LIVE ON NATIONAL RADIO didn't involved the "G" word...god forbid.....
Carol Thatcher has done no wrong. The BBC should be ashamed at their own behaviour. 1st they only suspend a vulgar individual such as Ross, then they sack someone for holding a private conversation.
DISGUSTING
Good luck Carol
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I'd like to congratulate the BBC on behaving very professionally. Terms colleagues find offensive on grounds of race, sex, and so on are not acceptable in the workplace, this is a basic rule of getting along with one's colleagues. Carol Thatcher was in the workplace, her colleagues found what she said - to a dozen people (hardly private) - offensive, she refused to apologise, saying "Oh, it was just a joke", end of her and end of story. If she can't consider other people's feelings enough to hide her acceptance of racist language (and just listen to all the experiences of the people who grew up being called "golliwog" and how much it upset them), she has no place working alongside them. The defence of banter just isn't a defence at all, people's feelings get just as hurt by the attitudes evidenced by so-called jokes. Well done, BBC.
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I find your shows enjoyable and in the main interesting thanks in no small part to Adrian and Christine and all the presenters, even if SOMEONE talks of West Bromwhich as if it is part of 'Brum', and of course it is part of the 'Black Country'- !!!.
On another matter, I think the treatment of Carol Thatcher, one of your most charasmatic presenters, is PATHETIC.
I feel sorry for you all in having to work for/with people who are so out of touch, mealy mouthed, condescending and who obviously live on the rarefied air of our Politicians who I am afraid are dangerously out of touch with the people of The United Kingdom and the real world.
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Heard the controller of the One Show on Radio 4 this morning and again on the news. I just do not accept her reasoning. She says it is mainly because Carol Thatcher will not or has not made an appology and that Ross did after his disgraceful actions. What a load of tosh.
I really feel that this incident has shown the One Show team as being very easly offended.
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I am afraid that the only way to get the likes of the foul mouthed Joe Brand & Johny Woss , the wimp Adrian Chiles , and to some extent even Christine for not speaking up in the defence of Carol , so the only way to get them to sort them selves out is to sack the lot of em , (they will learn there lesson and come back better people in the future) far better people than them have been axed over the years and had bans imposed on them . Very big names in show biz too .
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Who are all these people who think it's perfectly ok to call people golliwogs? I really can't believe that they live in this day and age.
Grow up. We all have to move on in our lives and stop living in the fifties.
Well done Jo Brand, Adrian Chiles and whover else stood up to this bigot and congratulations to the BBC for taking a decision which acknowledges that racism will not be tolerated in the twenty first century.
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Very worried about the BBC divulging the comments made in the green room after the One show. If this is to be the norm perhaps you could record the chat made in green room after other shows - should make great viewing. I know this is never going to happen but the girl who commented on this situation on this mornings breakfast show should grow up and get real. By the way - for anybody interested you can still buy Golliwogs in a Padstow giftshop.
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Myself, Husband and family have watched the one show from the start which we all loved and looked forward to, this will know longer be the case, Jon (rotten mouth) Ross
gets a tap on the wrist for his LIVE ON AIR verbal abuse, Carol Thatcher who I am not that fond of,f speaks off camara in private in the green room and gets sacked!! what if Adrian Charles (who I think is very rude alot of the time) speaks of a blonde haired dressed up female as a Barbie Doll! would he gets sacked? I dont think so.
Who ever has decided on this should be the one that is sacked!!
BBC you need to get yout morrals sorted You are a laughing stock
I would be interested in the viewing figures for this programe now.
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I am appalled that the BBC should treat a harmless comment by Carol Thatcher in this way. A golly for me is a happy childhood memory and I'm sure it is to Carol too. Why should she make a public apology when the comment was not made publicly.
I thought Adrian was quite a sensible person, he has certainly gone down in my estimation
Jo Brand offends me, just by her presence on the TV, as does Jonathon Woss.
Won't be watching the One show again
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I am really appalled at all the fuss concerning
Carol Thatcher. She clearly did not mean to be offensive in any way and it seems the corporation may well have been conduncting a vendetta against her on account of her political background. I have always enjoyed The One Show but now feel really let down by its presenters. It seems everyone is denying actually being involved in the leaking of the incident - they are obviously too scared to face the opposition!
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I've signed up to this blog purely to add my disgust at the treatment of Carol Thatcher by the One Show Team and presenter Adrian Chiles. After show private conversations should remain private and any disagreement or misunderstanding should be clarified and settled in private at the time and certainly not made public. An apology has been made and Carol should now be reinstated forthwith and the discussion closed.
How can the BBC justify allowing the hugely overpaid J Ross get away with obscene comments and allow the crude 'f' word to be used ad infinitum by so many so- called 'celebrities' on air. I am certainly no prude but there is a time and place for such language and it is not live on the BBC.
The double standards being demonstrated by the BBC should be independently investigated and Mark Thompson as custodian of our licence money should make yet another 'boring' statement on BBC policy and either justify these recent actions or overturn the decision on Carol Thatcher, admonishing those handful of highly paid professionals responsible for this unsatisfactory affair.
Adrian Chiles, as the key presenter, should have smoothed out the situation in the Green Room rather than allow it to get to this stage. He should take Carol back and make a public apology, in a diplomatic manner so as not to lose face. Being a sports journalist, I cannot believe that he hasn't heard, or been party to, off the cuff disrespectful remarks that have been made either in humour or otherwise. Grow up, sunshine!
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Your treatment of Carole Thatcher is disgusting. A word used in a private off screen moment should not have been made public and I wonder if there is a hidden agenda. Political correctness in this country is becoming a joke. Finally the One Show has dismissed a very popular contributor to the programme. Do the right thing and re-instate her.
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Having read the sanctimonious official response to the use of the word "Golliwog" in a private conversation by Carol Thatcher, and contrasting it with the inexplicable tolerance of the disgusting broadcast antics of Jonathan Ross I am at a loss for words to describe my utter disgust.
In mitigation of the decision to tolerate Ross it was stated that he had aplogised. Of course he did - he needed the millions you misguidedly pay him. Carol's remark was in a private gathering and should have been treated as such.
I hear that 2000 people have complained about the BBC's response and I just hope that someone in a position of authority will have the good sense to realise how utterly stupid their underlings have been, will apologise to Miss Thatcher for the situation to which she has been subjected, and invite her to return to the One Show. She probably won't but that is your loss - and ours.
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After much thought on this subject ,
Just suppose that i went out and bought up all the Gollywogs in the UK , then proceded to burn the whole lot of them , so it would put and end to the poor Golly Saga, would that by any chance make me a Racist, or just someone who did'nt like dollies.
I dare say some would see this as a racist action , but outers would not , either way no one would really know the truth but me .
So to conclude only Carol Thatcher knows the truth , the others think they know but really they know nothing apart from how to cause trouble in the hope they will come out on top at the expence of others.
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Carol Thatcher,( like some members of the Royal family) believes she is above or apart from the rules governing the rest of us regarding racist remarks. Their arrogance is inbred and they cannot even see what they have said or done to cause offence. Unfortunately, going by the number of messages of support for her statement, it looks as though the vast majority of The One Show viewers agree with her. How sad! I have never been able to stand Carol Thatcher’s contributions to this show and I am delighted that someone has had the guts to stand up and point out that she is just as arrogant and insensitive as her mother!
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If I were Carol Thatcher I would not WANT to return to the One Show after being spied on and reported in a 'private' conversation. Disgraceful.
We truly are in a mess in this country with Political Correctness. Most of the time the people doing the complaining are doing it on behalf of people who really could not care less and find the jumping in on their behalf offensive!!!
For instance, Muslims, Chinese, Jews etc., respect our CHRISTMAS in this country, just as we allow/respect their celebrations with all their frills at different times of year (Chinese New Year for instance). Yet SOMEBODY in local authority employment 'somewhere' objects that we use the term Happy Christmas and says for it not to offend we should say "Happy Holidays"...
It's getting worse and out of control. By highlighting these things and making everybody tread on egg shells around each other it makes things worse and CREATES bad situations/relations.
I LIKE CAROL THATCHER - she is INTERESTING and DOES NOT OFFEND like J. Ross (unlike her he does it on screen too)! I saw him in Film 2009 last night... he looks VERY professional/adult in that doesn't he? No swear words / 'edgey' remarks in THAT programme!!
If you can't GET Carol to come back (I doubt she would lower herself anyway), then give HER a chat show. She is FUN!!!
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I'm a fan of the One Show BUT I'm appalled at the treatment of Carol Thatcher because she used the word golliwogg in a private conversation. I used to collect the golliwoggs on the Robertson's jam when I was a child and back then it wasn't an offensive word. Whoever dished the dirt on Carol why don't they have the courage to own up to it? Come on Adrian or Jo! The BBC obviously doesn't realise how popular Carol is and what a BIG mistake they've made in trying to blacken her name (or am I not allowed to use that word?)
I find swearing offensive but does the BBC put a stop to this?
CJ
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the word WAS offensive back then. it was used by extremists even back then when people used the dolls.
the only thing is you were small and unaware of it.
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I am in total support of the majority of comments made above with referene to the Carol Thatcher removal. Your interviewed representative makes the point that Jonathan Ross apologised properly - so would all of us if we were being paid such a rediculously large sum of money for such a pathetic and insulting performance as we could hear from him if we listened or watched - I turn him off on both TV and Radio.
Well done Carol for attempting to place a common sense reaction to your over reactive PC managers. I also am disappointed that collegue presenters have not spoken out in support of her, but I expect they are also on a good salary.
The BBC needs to listen to the lubic who are forced to pay the license fee, given the option most people would refrain after such incredible decisions.
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Unfortunately, anyone who is inclined to support the BBC is being increasingly and terminally frustrated by its facile political correctness, seemingly unrestrained overpayment of mediocre presenters (certainly on TV, but on radio also, according to a recent report), and appointment of unimaginative jobsworths to senior management positions; the Controller of BBC1 immediately comes to mind!
Of course, the BBC cannot be blamed exclusively for the decent of the golliwog from harmless childrens' doll and adorner of preserve jars, to instrument of oppressive political correctness. However, its treatment of Carol Thatcher manifests its helpless obsession in embracing every inane trendy and mindless left wing wooly-minded preoccupation.
It is unfortunate that Mrs Thatcher did not follow her inclination to emasculate the BBC to an extent that brought it into the hard real world, and thus spare her daughter the indignity, if it can be so regarded, of being sacked by an entity that has forfeited any entitlement to respect and credibility.
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For Gods Sake !!!!!Why is everyone blaming Adrian!!!people should get facts right first !!We like Adrian and Love Christine !!!There was a good number odf staff in this room and maybe one was not happy ??not everyone is!!Ainslee Harriet did not like the remark??!!Carol should say sorry and she does twitter a lot in her presenting!!however think it would be good to make peace for all concerned and reinstate her!!We will continue to watch this show as we like it and there presenters !!!!
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Is the BBC calling Carol Thatcher racist? If so -- it seems obvious to me which party ought to be providing the apology.
Good for Carol; standing up for herself against the hyper-sensitive PC bullies. There was no need for such a fuss to be made over this.
As can be seen from the other comments here, people are really fed-up with this kind of nonsense. What really sticks in the craw: the self-righteous, sanctimonious, bias, pompous, jobsworths at the BBC are paid for by us -- by compulsion.
Since the public has to pay for the BBC, I think it should really reflect their views better. Get a grip guys.
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That's just over one percent who endorse the BBC's handling of this storm in a teacup then.
That must make the rest of us racists in their eyes.
Golly!
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Just one word to some up the person or persons who were allegedly 'shocked and offended' at Carol Thatcher's use of the word golliwog; pathetic!
Jo Brand is hardly a roll model to anyone with her foul mouth. She appears to find it highly humerous to talk openly, on television, about having sex and other vulgarities, but finds the word golliwog and the context it is used in, however much in jest, shocking and offensive?
Adian Chiles could have calmed the issue, but listerning to media reports, he too was 'shocked and offended'. Looking after number one, I think, is Mr. Chiles' policy.
I am sure neither of these two have lived such sheltered lives as to be truely offended by such a light hearted remark.
It is only the left wing, politically correct brigade who go out looking to cause trouble and controversy, any excuse to have a go at someone with differing views to their own.
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Formal complaints about the conduct of the One Show bullies and the lamentable controller of BBC1 can be lodged at ...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/
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The comments about reinstate Carol and the like are misguided - a case of mass hysteria.
The BBC should uphold it's desicion and kick her and keep her out.
I have a total dislike for her and her brother.
They think just because they are the son and daughter of the ex-prime minister that they deserve to be treated different above the law even.
For Mark Thatcher - read here: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/africa/article4166091.ece
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Mark Thatcher SHOULD BE ROTTING IN A WEST AFRICAN JAIL RIGHT NOW.
...another thing, I would love to see what would happen if she called the person a gw to her face. thatchr would get battered for sure.
The name was not used by thatch as a term of endearment - so don't kid yourselves!
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@JayWalkerLeo: Your prejudice towards somebody because of their surname does not justify slander.
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back@cha Justdonotbelieveit ...slander? Slander?
What slander?
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1137202/Carol-Thatcher-brought-shame-Britain-says-black-tennis-players-mother.html
Nuff said!
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Re Carole Thatcher treatment. I should like to wholeheartedly support the BBC in their censure of Ms Thatcher. Her remarks were insidiously racist, highly offensive and cannot be taken as 'just jest'. It marks an attitude that we all would be better off leaving behind. Well done the BBC. You may not be perfect ... but WELL DONE IN THIS CASE.
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Adrian says it wasn't him!
He also says it wasn't Jo
Christine says .........??
Who WAS the snitch - and don't the public deserve to know?
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was really sad and fed up to read about the sacking of CT. Why do the BBC feel they can act like this after many of the comments actually aired on BBC programmes by other "comedians" are allowed.
Despite not being popular with the BBC, when carol appeard in Im a Celebrity on THE OTHER CHANNEL, she proved to be extremely popular with the public.
I wont be watching the one show any more, another programme which has become so biased, like the BBC news - no longer representative of the public views.
p.s. I do like johnathan ross, but the difference in treatment is appalling, shame on the BBC.
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i told myself that i wouldn't comment anymore on this, as i see that i'm in the minority that thinks golli*** is completly unacceptable.
i will say this once and no more.
i don't think she had to be sacked okay? but to DEFEND the word is to me, the pits.
all of this; WHO'S THE SNITCH, WHO'S THE COWARD, GOLLI*** WAS NOT OFFENSIVE IN MY TIME IT'S JUST A TOY, THIS IS LIKE NAZY GERMANY, THIS IS PC GONE MAD, BLAH, BLAH, ETC...................................
IS VERY CHILDISH!
YOU weren't there, i definetly wasn't there therefore we can't really judge.
YOU can't be sure if it was really a joke, i can't either, again because we weren't there.
YOU say it was a private conversation, i say no it wasn't, she was still in the BBC building, therefore SHE WAS STILL AT WORK.
YOU say golli*** isn't offensive, i say go outside find black people and start calling them that.
YOU say it was inoffensive back then, i say talk to a black man who was brought up in the 60's and ask him.
YOU say Chiles and Brand had to do something with it, i ask this ; How do you know? WERE YOU THERE?
the paper said it; BUT SINCE WHEN HAS THE PAPERS SAID THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
people let's think, restrain ourselves (from insulting others and accusing them of things that you have no evidence of) and ccalm down shall we?
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I have now refused to watch this enjoyable show since Carol Thatcher's demise. Another nail in the coffin for people having conversations in private and things getting blown out of proportion.
Wasn't there a conversation in a police locker than someone found offensive and then successfully sued, soon we won't be able to say anything without having a lawyer present.
Everyone is entitled to say what they like and when, wasn't that freedom fought for in the war, now we have our heads so far up our backsides we can't say boo to a goose without someone getting offended.
Lighten up with there are enough serious issues out there to be concerned about. We all have our own quirks and ways of comparing and likening things or people, just because one person doesn't like it does not mean it is offensive or derogative.
Even Jonathon Ross's so called joke phone call should have remained between the people involved, if he aplogised on air - case dismissed as far as i can see. It would have died down a lot quicker rather than millions of people knowing instead of a few. Maybe they are a bit brash but that is them at the end of the day.
To many do gooders in this country penalizing the majority.
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I have watched the one show from the very beginning and thoroughly enjoyed the programme. Last night I felt too disgusted by the treatment of Carol so did not watch it. I thought better of Adrian, my opinion of him is now rock bottom, and as for Jo Brand, she is often offensive. The BBC should sack Jay Hunt. Why was Jonathan Ross not sacked? ...and why can the BBC never reply to the questions asked by the licence payers?
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Bye bye One Show - a totally pathetic show now.
Get some presenters with a modicum of intellect who can string at the very least a sentence together and I might contemplate watching again.
But only when all other channels have gone poop.
The real world is a wonderful place , some of you ought to try living in it .
Live your own life as it can be quite fulfilling and the world stiil spins around without the aid of snitchers and foul mouthed morons attempting to drag us down to there level too.
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The show needs to be re-vamped after the "Green Room" informants reported 'Their Colleague' for politcal incorrectness to the political representative. The head of "Sneaky politics" came on television to justify this VERY UNBRITISH practice to the licence holders which has not washed with the public. The show should stop getting guests from the Kremlin Agency and widen the scope beyond Left wing Entertainers(laugh here).
Any further complaints will be dealt with by Auto-Reply (Lead by the Nose Department)
Or write to:-
Commisar for political Correctness
The Politburo
Wood Lane.
London.
We guarantee to reply within 10 years.
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Despite not being a fan of Carol Thatcher, I am disgusted (but not in the least bit surprised) at her treatment by the New Labour thought-police in the BBC.
I trust in future any presenter who makes a slightly racist, sexist (anti-male or anti-female), ageist or any other non-fully PC remark will be instantly dismissed.
There will not be many left. Perhaps the license fee can be reduced?
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Why have my two posts relating to Carol Thatcher been deleted? There was nothing wrong with what i said. Surely its not because i have the word 'golly' in my id
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I posted a blog in the early hours of this morning (the first I have ever done)but can't find it. To summarise: I was endorsing the view that Carole Thatcher's remark was racist and it was made at work where we all have to challenge discrimination and prejudice. Those who are in the majority have duty to be extra vigilant as minority groups are subject to the same latent isms and phobias and shouldn't have to stand out alone and unsupported against these 'jokes'.
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Ah so the foul mouthed J Woss is still on the box and causing the back room staff in the editing suite loads of work deleting his foulness before being fit for broadcast and no doubt still insulting the guests , Sack the plonker and give his job to a decient person with some respect for others , while you are at it get rid of Joe foul mouthed Brand also , the green room incident with Carol Thatcher is yet another shabby deal from the Beeb.
For heavens sake Beeb clean your act up now before it gets out of hand and you are sold off as you are playing into the hands of those who like to sell you off to fill the coffers of the treasury.
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David Frost's comment about "blacks having all the natural rhythm (but it is the Catholics who need it..)" was a reference to contraception - the rhythm method also called fertility awareness - not to either groups dancing abilities.
I don't personally find that offensive (or funny) nor do I find use of the 'g' word offensive.
You might say someone with a red face 'looks like a lobster'. It's not an insult, implying they have the intelligence of said crustacean, merely that they share a similar appearance. Isn't that all that carol Thatcher was saying?
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Like most normal people I was shocked and horrified by the events following Carol Thatcher's comments about golliwogs. What mischief making sneaks some of you must be! Adrian Chiles, you and your fellow presenters are not worthy of being broadcast into my sitting room. I for one shall never watch your programme again. The word Hypocrites could apply to all of you. I only hope that another TV company has the sense to snap up Carol Thatcher to report for them. Your loss will be everyone else's gain. Have none of you any sense of shame?
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I can't believe you have treated Carol in this way, I am so shocked and disappointed in YOU! I remember saving tokens from the marmalade jars with my Grandad when I was a little girl for my Golli... I remember waiting and waiting for him to arrive, he was my best doll in the world! I will always have very fond memories for my friend. I have always wanted to look for another but dare not because of what people may think I am trying to say, be it right or wrong, it depends who you are speaking to at the time. I loved his smile and gentle touch. I hope to goodness I have NOT in any way affended any one by adding my comments. Please think about what you have done, why did you really decide to remove her, how crazy the world is becoming. This is just my opinion, just a childhood memory. Bring back Carol.
J
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I will never watch the show again. The treatment of Ms C Thatcher is a disgrace.
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DO THE ONE SHOW PRESENTERS OR STAFF ACTUALLY READ THESE COMMENTS?IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT!
THE CAROL THATCHER HASN'T BEEN MENTIONED ONCE,I'M NOT A CAROL THATCHER FAN BUT IN MY OPINION SHE WAS GROSSLY MISTREATED IN WHAT WAS A JOKULAR PRIVATE CONVERSATION OFF-AIR.JONOTHAN ROSS DONE A LOT WORSE AND GOT A SLAP ON THE WRIST WITH A 3 MONTHS HOLIDAY THROWN IN!
JEREMY CLARKSON CONSISTENTLY ACTS LIKE A BUFFOON AND MAKES DEGRADING REMARKS IN PUBLIC AS WELL AS ON AIR BUT IS LET OFF WITHOUT PUNISHMENT.
WE PAY A SUBSTANTIAL AMMOUNT ON OUR TELEVISION LICENCE AND STILL GET TREATED LIKE IDIOTS! GET RID OF THE ROSSES AND CLARKSONS IT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO GO AFTER THE CAROL THATCHER AFFAIR?
ARCHIE...
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I really think the sacking of Carole Thatcher by the BBC is totaly over the top. It was a comment said off air in the presence of Adrian Childs and Jo Brand I find Adrian Childs a second reate presenter and Jo Brand self opinionated . Because of the BBC's over reaction I will never turn on the programme again and I feel its letting itself down.
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