What did you think of The One Show? Guest: Bill Bailey
Adrian and Christine were joined by Bill Bailey.
The snow has caused weeks of chaos for many up and down the UK. However, as Dan Snow found out in Lewes, Sussex, heavy snowfall is not uncommon in Britain's history.
The first criminal trial, without a jury, to take place in England and Wales in 800 years began today. Anita Rani looked at what undertaking jury service is like, and met a man who refused to serve.
Mike Dilger travelled to the Somerset Levels for a birds eye view of one of the UK's greatest natural spectacles - huge flocks of starlings in the sky.
And Sin Week continued with Michael Mosley studying wrath.
What did you think of tonight's One Show? Add a comment.
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Beard or No beard that is the question?
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Love 'annemack's' on yesterday's blog, who insists that beards smell, are dirty and a sign of laziness.
Cheer up, Adrian.
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re 1 Beard it is
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re 2 love your name btw.;)
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bill got a loot.Wonder if he nicked off sting
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Come on Bill play Lara's theme on the mandolin conjures up the snow scenes in Dr Zhivago.
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John the Jury-dodger. Get a backbone.
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Horrified by Adrian's beard! He looks a complete wally!
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Oh, and Jury-free trials in "this country". Never heard of Diplock courts.
Nice one, EBC!
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Sorry Adrian you look less a muppet without the beard :)
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My Wife jill who is 60 today says the instrument to play in cold weather is surely the chillo.
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Really wanted to come to the studio with scissors! Not for the beard, but for Christine and that lady talking about the jury. Whats with the fringe in their eyes?! That would drive me crazy....cut your fringe!
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Mmmmmm.. the beard. Makes Adrian look like a naughty little boy.It suits him.
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Keep the beard Adrian, getting better and better
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Get rid of that beard Adrian, you look like a hedgehogs backside.
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Why is Adrian's beard such a different colour to his hair!! It looks false! Shave it off!!Please!
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The show is great.The beard is awful
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In regards to the piece on jury service. Nobody gets a choice over which country they are born in. It's pure luck (or not) that I was born here in the UK, but just because I happen to be born here does not automatically mean I agree with the laws of this land or the judicial system in place. You should not be forced to do anything against your will, least of all judge someone else. I'd sooner the system considered me a 'criminal' rather than be part of jury service - I will not ever do it no matter what. I live on this earth by my rules and my laws and my morales, not that of the land - essentially laws are just opinions made up by people before us - you shouldn't necessarily have to agree with them nor live by them, but just use them as a guide with your own morals.
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LOVED the Starlings. Had a pair nest in my attic last summer and managed to get pictures of the 4 chicks they had, AMAZING x
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I prefer to see Adrian Chiles "Without" a beard. He looks a bit scruffy and about 10 years older "With" it.
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Tengsted - John is not weak because he doesn't do what is expected of him - he is stronger than most by appealing against it. You evidently must be a 'sheep' happy to go along with everything - now that's when a backbone is needed!
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Thinking having a celebrity in the docks could be a new spin off for 'I'm a celebrity get me out of here'!
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I've done Jury Duty. Have you?
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Pity the "legal expert" hasn't read/got it wrong on the subject of jury make up. It was conceived as "trial by YOUR PEERS", not your average man in the street. This necessitates some degree of expertise in the area involved in the crime; accountants trying accountants etc....??
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Don't want to be on a jury? Then don't be on the electoral roll. Simple
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I've been called up for Jury Service twice like the person in your film. I know lots of people who would like to do Jury Service and have never been called up. How can that be called random?
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Jury service may be a feature of Citizenship but Exclusion from JS is continuing evidence of dis-enfrachisement and non-citizenship for the large number of UK residents who have a psychiatric diagnosis. With this exclusion as embedded in this society as JS itself, campaigning to provide restitution as equal citizens for these people is something I am launching into with a site which I invite concerned people to enlist public support for the end of marginalisation for the people so marginalised by the politics of this country. We can be found at:- http://hypoconcer.ning.com
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Good, but oh Adrian! Your beard makes your face look fatter and like you have no teeth. You're MUCH more handsome without it!
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1) You can skip jury duty if you have a good reason
2) We have these huge starling flocks ( I have counted 5000 in one ) and when they land on our feeders the food doesn't last long. It may be a spectacle but they are a pain in the neck for the small birds.
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The clip about Starlings was incorrect, as it was said that there was a flock of Starlings. The fact is that a group of starlings is called a Murmuration!!! Get it right, c'mon!
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Obviously not - I just posted up that I will NEVER do it, I don't do what I'm told, I do what I feel is best. You must be more trained and brainwashed, just how 'they' like 'em ;-)
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First show i've seen this year, inspired getting Jack Osbourne to co host wth Christina! good work BBC
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You should not be forced to do anything against your will.
There are lots of things in life that you have to do, even though you don't want to, especially in paying tax and the like.
Deal with it.
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#29 zergon
How do you count 5000 high speed starlings?
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I think the show is smashing, and the guests are always entertaining. I enjoyed the story about the Starlings but do wish the presenters would use the correct "collective noun". The collective noun for starlings is "Murmuration"
Dosen't that sound better. "A murmuration os Starlings" and it certainly would have given the story a enlightning edge.
Thanks for a great show.
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Exactly, Sue Turner! I'm not on the electoral roll ;-)
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Please ask Christine to cut her fringe.....
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re #18 Marcos Brito
"essentially laws are just opinions made up by people before us - you shouldn't necessarily have to agree with them nor live by them, but just use them as a guide with your own morals"
and you break them at your peril. Judged by a jury of your peers.
I have served on a jury. It is a grave responsibility. I can understand why you would want run from it.
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Yes, John Ward I agree with you totally, see my earier post! Correct language for the BBC would b great, wouldn't it?
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By the look on christine's face shes not a fan of the beard.I wonder if adrians just keeping to annoy her?
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Another good show let down by the absence of empathy between A&C and their guests/subject matter. In virtually every case, they cover this up by fairly clumsy attempts at ridicule or comedy. Thankfully, most guests have more to offer and come to the rescue of the difficult situations.
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Tengsted - who said I don't want to pay my taxes?? You said that, not me - I am happy to pay taxes given the services provided from them are helping me and the community (rubbish collection, forming of paths, etc...).
What I am against is being forced to part of a system which I have no interest in nor any desire to have such a hand at someone's fate. Paying my taxes is not the same as making a decision which can change someone's life forever. It's very different and you are very sill to compare them.
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I would just like to support the man who objected to compulsory jury service.
I served a few years and found the experience very distressing, and it has actually reduced my faith in the jury system considerably. I do not intend to serve again and would rather pay the fine.
We are supposed to live in a democracy. Voting is not compulsory, jury service should not be also. There will still be plenty wanting to do it, so there would still be a good cross-section of willing jurors so leave it up to them.
Marie-Liverpool.
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It is a great show and really enjoy Arian Charles presenting. Unfotunately Adrian Charles at the moment looks so unkept, just like my 60 year old husband who thinks pottering at home gardening casual is old clothes and not doing his hair, I can deal with this as equally he is very debonair in the right situation, but he is not on prime time tv unlike Chales! My kids think he looks like their old dad. Smarten you act up!
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re #31: Marcos Brito,
You come across as very angry Marcos. This suggests to me that in truth you do have to do what you are told and that makes you angry.
Jury service may not be pleasant but it is a duty to be shared. What is so wrong with duty? Are you content for the state to be your judge and jury? If so, perhaps you could explain why.
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You raised "You should not be forced to do anything against your will".
The hypothesis of not paying taxes is very real.
A lot of people don't want the war in Afghanistan, myself included, yet I have to pay my taxes which funds this all the same.
There are lots of things that we don't agree with that we pay for, or are against, but life is unfair.
And to say it's Sill [sic] is your opinion.
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With citizenship of a country that looks after its people come responsabilities. We tend to always expect something from our governenment but never to give something back. When voting, we decide who's going to make decisions on our behalf. When needing help, we get benefits. When the government need help, we become jurors. Please stop bleeding the system and give something back, John. Get a life.
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WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU CAN'T PLAY A SONG ABOUT SNOW ON A BOUZOUKI?!? I do it on a daily basis!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygyj01eFKgY
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Marcos Brito
How does a Council tax payer avoid getting on the electoral roll?
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Replying to flunklumpard's question
How do you count 5000 high speed starlings?
I think the answer is: one by one, Am I right?
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Good viewing, and I have my Observers book of birds beside me now. I imagine it is an age thing but these books were gospel back when and I now use them for my grandchildren now, such ace information. As youngsters my brothers and I had more or less the whole range of books.............. brilliant! Keep that knowledge alive!
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49 - flunklampard - the Council Tax database and the Electoral Roll are two entirely separate databases - as there can be multiple voters in a household but maybe only one or two people listed on the Council Tax account. If you wish to vote you have to ensure you have completed the electoral roll form otherwise you will miss out this summer on the general election!
really enjoyed Bill Bailey - he is a very talented musician as well as being very funny.
still liking the beard!
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re #49: flunklumpard,
I believe the answer to your question is 'illegally'.
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Christine and Anita morphing in to same person!had to look twice .Anita has new white teeth, similer haircut as Christine with long fringe, and same dress !Women notice these things !Adrians beard ?think it has to go . post 34 is it you Frank?glad you are on here giving Christine your support !!I had to do Jury Duty not a pleasant experience .Regarding snow ?is anyone else as sick of it as I am?seems to be going on for ever!
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50 JL
Is that how he does it. Must get a bit dizzy I imagine.
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54 highland fling
You've sussed me out - you women notice these things.
With Anita's new teeth (if you say so) and Christine's nashers, Bill Bailey could have played the piano.
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flunklumpard: There are ways and means of paying tax without being on any lists - you gotta be inventive ;-)
John Holyer: What makes me angry is when people just do what they are told instead of THINKING and oding what they actually would like. Added to that is when those brave people make a stance and do what they feel is right and they get no support of understanding.
I am fully aware that what they do with our tax money often is for wars and things I have no desire to fund, but still, some of it does do good for me and the principle of paying taxes fundamentally is not wrong in my opinion - just what 'they' use it for and how 'they' use it is what is questionable.
The justice system is not something I created, it is not based on my rules, on my understanding of what is right and what it wrong, therefore I cannot support it nor respect it. I am adult enough to know what is right and wrong without needing a law in place to say so. I will not be told otherwise. I do not consider myself to be a member of the UK, I am a human being living on this earth and I will live my life as see fit, not by silly guidelines and ideas that other people have formed and decided long ago and no longer in context with how the world is now. I do what I like - not what they like. The very existence of boarders and countries mystifies me for example. We should be able to roam this planet as we see fit - certain parts of it do not belong to certain people - and in time we we realise this. But alas, I am sidetracked - essentially the legal system, like most things in this country, is in need of a dire shake-up and revision and I have no faith in it and I do not feel it represents me and how I feel about justice and punishment - and like what was said before, there are plenty of people who do wish to be jurors so let them be and leave us who don't alone. I am under no illusion that it is my 'duty' - I never signed anything saying such, I never agreed to it, therefore you have just 'decided' it my duty, but it isn't - it's just something in your head. Being born somewhere does not automatically mean you have a duty - that's bull being fed to you to make you do things you shouldn't have to do.
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JL: I have never once claimed benefits of any kind and you don't know if John has either so not fair of you to say he is taking and not giving back.
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A couple of uneventful shows to start the year... or am I still on a 'high' of expectation after the (seemingly still recent) epic that was the 18 December show?
Jury Service - I would be interested to so so if I had the opportunity, but repect the wishes of others who do not when many do not have to.
Nice to see Pieter Bruegel mentioned on prime time TV.
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#58 - Marcos , I agree with your desire to roam free and do as you wish, can I sugest you start in a very scenic country called Afghanistan - Helman Province in particular - where I've been advised that Jury Service is the furthest thing from anyone's mind.
P.S. make sure you send us a postcard.
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marcos / tim -- tim / marcos?
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Len West: That was a highly original post...not. How do you even know that what 'we' do as the UK is 'right' or for the best in war situations? For all you know, the UK could be in the wrong morally and legally. I don't need leave the UK because I don't agree with parts of it - that's not how the world works - you are allowed to stand and fight, not just roll over and do what you are told.
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I served on a lengthy trial a couple of years ago at a local crown court, and I too had initial concerns about it like John. I was not happy about doing something against my will and I was quite nervous. The trial was quite boring and mentally tiring but the support I got from my fellow jurors (6 men and 5 women, both young and old) was great and got me through it. The court officials and staff were also very pleasant and helpful too. In essence, I enjoyed the whole process and made some new friends who I still keep in touch with. And lets face it, its not something you get to do all the time as you might only get called up once in your lifetime, so I don't think to do a small duty for your country is such a big ask in fact I would be happy to do it again.
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Marcos - have I touched a nerve?
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Great, Debbie - you can do mine then.
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Who is Tim?
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#62 Len West
Not Tim, not by a long chalk.
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Out of focus, slow motion, zoom in and out, it's no wonder my eyes are popping and my brain heading for yet another unplanned headache. Pleeeeze documentary makers stop experimenting at our complicated brains expense.
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#62.Len
No, definitely not Tim. Tim is unable to spell if you look at his blogspot.
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re #62: Len West,
No, not Tim I think. Beware of off-topic. My #56 refers.
I enjoyed Bill bailey tonight. I always find him entertaining. CB seems to be going from strength to strength. I did Jury service once. My experience of it was similar to that of Debbie's described at her #64.
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Marcos, what else do you opt out of? Paying tax on your car? Insurance? Going to school? etc. etc. These are just a small number of 'mandatory' things that civilised people in a democracy have to live with - like it or not! My point with Afghanistan, is that if you subscribe to the anarchy which prevails in said county why not join the like minded people there. We cannot just opt in and out when things suit us. As in all the above these are decisions which were made by people elected to represent the people. But as you point out, you've opted out of voting by not being on the electoral roll.
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#70 Naughty Tim .. sorry Marcos .. are you sure I've not touched a nerve.. using expletives never was good stead for supporting a point of view..
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Insurance is voluntary and a con and if you pay it you are a fool (which I have already gathered anyway - you are so far cooked there is no hope for you).
I do not own a car and have no desire to or to learn to drive.
Going to school is taint amount to sending children to a factory or training ground to be turned into little worker bees so that they can make more money for the greedy capitalists that run the world. If schools did what they were supposed to and teach children the things they NEED to know like how to communicate, how to express love, how to be understanding, how to simply just 'be' - then perhaps we would not have the crime we do and there would be no need for the justice system - people are able to self-govern and self-regulate given the chance without have a system in pace to do it for them. We are being turned into zombified sheep, 'they' keep making us feel like we are powerless and yet we are the most powerful things in the universe. Your lack of spirituality and understanding means most of this will go over your head and you will never truly understand my point.
I see no point in voting when essentially it's just one evil over another - whoever you choose will end up messing it up anyway so what it the point? You get me a candidate who believes in the power of the human spirit and not in capitalism and I will vote.
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Don't you just love these bods who wish to cherry pick as to what part they will take in the running of this country! Marcos, if you don't wish to take part in the responsibility we all have to the safety and well being of the population of Britian by the operation of a fair and safe justice system perhaps you would also like to opt out of the protection of the Police Force, the voting system which allows you your say in the government of this country, and the social system which will provide you with a pension when you retire! Go it alone sunshine and see how far you get. I would suggest you do your jury service if asked and learn to live with the rest of us.
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# Marcos (Tim) do you pay your nasty capatalistic T.V. licence?
Anyway I am so enlightened that at last I know the cause of all my failings -- No spirituality, no understanding, a fool and best of all I'm far cooked. Love it, Love it, Love it..
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#74 Len - I call a spade a spade and a d*ckhead a d*ckhead and your post again shows all you are concerned about is winding me up and not about the issue in hand - it shows a lot about your character, you're probably a Virgo, they love to wind people up and they have lack of character often I find. I like ALL language, 'swearing' words are often as good as any non-swearing word - if not better - they are words all the same and should be used as when - they have a use, so use them.
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75 Marcos.
There has to be some form of control whether you like it or not. The veneer of civilisation is thin enough as it is - if you let everyone have their own free will, chaos would ensue.
If you didn't have politicians controlling you, you'd soon have the religious lunatics doing it for them.
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Re 'Marcos' It's Tim alright.
Please be careful of the mods. My #56 refers. We do not want all this trouble again. Let's talk about the show.
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# 78 Marcos (tim) Aries actually -- and for a ' I do my own thing' sort of guy, funny how you're into astrology.
My good old mum used to say that if someone resorts to swearing it shows their lack of language skills ..but there again you're against schools so I can only assume you exercised your principal at a very early age.
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79. That's an opinion, flunklumpard - but it is not one shared by me and I also think it is one we are brainwashed into thinking. We are brainwashed into thinking we cannot do it by ourselves. It's conditioning.
jadedoldie: - You haven't been reading have you - I have no interest in taking a pension and won't be doing so, and I don't vote or wish to. I simply reside on this land we call Britain, I do not have to live by your idea of what it is to be British in order to do so.
I think the reason why so many people get angry about these issues is they begin to realise that there are people out there who don't just do as they are told and instead do what they think is right. Suddenly these angry 'sheep' for want of a better word, feel like they have been duped by the system - they never realised they could form their own opinions and they resent others who have had the moxie to do so.
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I did my jury service and while I certainly didn't enjoy it, I saw it as a part of my duty to a country that has served me well all my life. I have a feeling Marcos may be experiencing the work of a jury at first hand in the future.
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Bill Bailey is a talented musician, and I was enthralled by his performance some weeks ago, with a group of predominantly Indian musicians playing authentic instruments, absolutely amazing.
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# 80 - John .. I think this debate is within topic.. All we've done is look at other areas (than Jury Service) where people are raising their views on agreeing or disagreeing about being made to participate.
Tim as always has gone a bit overboard.
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Had a look on the 'Not The One Show' blog (see 56)and it looks fun.
As per Astroplums, is it true that AC is leaving for the 10 show and then off to darkest Africa for the world cup?
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I have been listening to you Marcos, can you not hear me yawn. You are apparently not interested in the show whose blog you are using as you would perceive it to be sheep like. Was there any aspect of the show you enjoyed?
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Again, I do not know who Tim is - this is the first time I have used this site - from the sound of things, Tim was a trouble maker - and conveniently for you, because you don't like what I have to say, you are using this Tim character as a scapegoat and making people believe I am him - I think you will find I am really who I say I am as will anyone else if they do some research. I shall not entertain you on this matter any further as it interest me not and has nothing to do with my point. It's evident you just don't like what I have to say and are trying your best to attack me - it's not working. You must be very insecure....and another thing, from what I have seen tonight, the person you are does not appear to be a nice one and as you are a creation of your 'good ole mum' I certainly wouldn't be listening to her or her advice. I evidently have more than a basic grasp of the English language and am probably more intelligent than you given what you have said so far, so judging someone on how their vocabulary is just because they use swear words is a little irrelevant....as I said, you are just out to wind people up - not actually engage properly in the debate at hand.
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God I am a Virgo what should I do?lacking character mm ?how strange .Flunk I feel I know you ?does anyone know who guest is tomorrow ?
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87. jadedoldie
I love the show - who said I didn't? I LOVE the fact it brought up this issue of compulsory jury service as I don't think has been properly dealt with before - and because of that fact, I have never had proper chance to express my views on it or discuss with others. The simple fact is you don't have to fight in services for this country any more, you don't have to vote either and therefore you should not have to do jury service. It should be optional and you should not make those who do not wish to do feel bad about it. Not everyone is the same and not everyone believes what you do and you should allow for that. By not doing so, you are being unfair.
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Apologies to highland fling - and all other nice virgos :-)
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Taking and not giving is what is unfair, and unfortunately you do not wish to discuss, merely dictate, once again I ask what you like about the show other than the fact it has allowed you to express your singular ideas on life. How do you feel about the presenters, did you like the guest, was the wildlife segment to your taste?
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highlandfling, a red headed virgo, you sound like trouble to me, lol!!!!! Good to hear from you, come join us and laugh.
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The guest tomorrow is Paul Merton, could be fireworks there!
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94 jadedoldie
Trouble is that is good in his own comfort zone. Don't think TOS is a great platform for him. Still you never know. Bill Bailey was a good guest tonight.
Incidentally, to those complaining about Christines fringe and wanting it cut off, why not get that silly TOS hairdresser, Michael I think,to cut it off whilst she is in the little tellycopter. That would be a challenge for both of them.
Highlandfling. You are a very naughty girl.
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flunklumpard, I would wish for just one of Paul Mertons excellent put down lines to be directed at AC, so that we could see those little lips thin down into sulk mode!
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#88 - I'm sorry Marcos but your belief of higher inteligence and grasp of the English language falls very flat - strongly sugest you proof read your posts before hitting the button ..
A couple of your inputs - 'you are so far cooked', 'should be used as when '(?),'existence of boarders ',are very sill to compare ' and my favourite 'Going to school is taint amount '
Or perhaps you did...
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96 jadedoldie
If it is an off the cuff put down, then I agree. But I think a lot of the show is rehearsed and any jokes and responses by Adrian will already be on the autocue. Peter Kay was one-off anarchy, don't think Merton has that type of personality.
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Yes very naughty , and have the red headed temper to match unfortunately!No Wiggle tonight must be exhausted after the rants last night !!was it drink?Long fringes are in by the way!thinking of getting one this week , probably end up like a highland bull !Christine suits hers as does Anita .We need Peter Kay back on or Shane Richie after green room!
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OK, the beard...... keep it but be sure that you don't let it stop you letting a guest (Ken Livingstone) relate a complete distortion of the truth about the Iraq War (the second Iraq war that is, the one that started in 2003) - Ken said "Bush only waited a month to invade Iraq" after 9/11 (or words close to that) when in fact it was AFGHANISTAN that was invaded in October 2001, indeed one month after the attacks on New York etc. The invasion of Iraq in 2003 was NOT in response to 9/11 - a small point but sadly unchallenged by the sycophantic interviewers! So, back to the beard and Bill Bailey both great. AC ... hmmm I reserve judgement.
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Oh dear Marcos, you don't agree with the Law of the Land... well you know what you can do don't you? The rule is you ABIDE by the law whether or not you agree with it otherwise you have anarchy.
I agree with this: Tengsted wrote:
"John the Jury-dodger. Get a backbone."
Marcos, the same goes for you as you have a duty and honour as a citizen to take part in the workings of this fine Country not whinge about it.
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adrian
the beard doesnt suit u at all. it seems u havent had a bath xxxx I like you as apresenter
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It's 23.50 and all I can see are 2 comments both written before the show started. Host Ryan why is this? I'm certain lots of blogs must be there by now but why aren't they showing on my computer? Also why am I having to "sign in" almost every day?
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Wow! Soon as I posted that comment it shot up as post 103 under post2! sommat very weird going on with this site but I'll look in tomorrow and see what the bloggers between 2 and 102 have had to say.
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Hi Juniper, it's tricky as I can't see your computer. Before posting your comment I'd recommend pressing the F5 key, so the website page refreshes itself - should let you see the latest comments. Best wishes.
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Jury Service
I did Jury Service a few years ago. Six weeks. It was annoying, boring and interesting in equal measures. A bit like life, really!
Like it or not, you can't ever be completely separate from society. One may disagree with some aspects, but if you're here, then you're part of it. You can't pick and choose which laws to obey just because you don't like them. It's all or nothing (with the democratic option to campaign/vote for or against particular aspects and get thing changed).
I've met many people who claim to have "dropped out" when all they've done is stop working/voting/paying taxes and then live on handouts. That's not dropping out, that's making yourself even more reliant on society.
Campaign for change? - Yes. It's our democratic right
Moan about the things we don't like, and ignore laws that we disagree with? - No. Immature, irresponsible, and doesn't change a thing.
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@ The Town Planner regarding where people live
What planet is that Town Planner from? He repeatedly said that travel difficulties are due to where "people choose to live". *Choose* to live?
Most people don't have a free choice of where they live/work and the distance between.
I work in central London, but I live on the outskirts. Given the choice, I would rather live nearer to work and avoid the commuting. Unfortunately, I can't afford to live near where I currently work, and there are no jobs where I can afford to live.
Similarly, I have friends who live in the North of England. There are no jobs where they live. Property prices where there are jobs are too high for them to move, so they too are forced to commute.
Yes, in an ideal world we'd start again and all towns would be planned so that everyone could live and work where they wanted to, but at the moment the distance between work and home is dictated by economics rather than choice.
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Thanks One show for the tip about getting the car unstuck in this icy weather. My car tyres were just spinning around on the ice and I was completely stuck. I remembered hearing about putting a car mat under the wheel and it worked a treat. I've been telling all my friends and family about it. You got me out of a tricky spot.
Thanks again.
Lynne
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#108 - Lynne, any chance of putting Tim under the wheels next time?
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I would suggest getting winter tyres here in Scandinavia we wouldn't dream of not having them put on from November for the snow. They make a tremendous difference to road grip.
Too many cars have low profile tyres these days totally unsuitable for this winters conditions.
Who knows they may save an expensive accident if not a life.
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Hi Adrian & Christine - good to see you back - Adrian, had to write to let you know how fab the beard looks! Really suits you - don't shave it off!!
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108 lynne
If you get stuck again, make sure that the wheels don't spin by using 2nd / 3rd gear and slip the clutch. A mat may get you out of one small bit, but it's not the answer for driving in snow or ice.
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The beard looks like it would go with a wine bottle in a paper bag.
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