Prompted by the American actor who is suing her producer for her character being killed off in the tv series Desperate Housewives, The Independent examines fictional deaths.

They speak to Graham Seed, who played Nigel Pargetter until that character's death earlier this year. And some bloke called Keri Davies throws his two penn'orth in as well.

Keri Davies is an Archers (and Ambridge Extra) scriptwriter and web producer.

Tagged with:

Comments

This entry is now closed for comments.

  • Comment number 20. Posted by johnrh

    on 7 Jul 2011 08:13

    Just came back to the blog to have a read. I echo the thoughts of #1. I never listen at all and haven't since the event. I do not miss it in the slightest and have discovered other listening pleasures far better than dreary EastEnders in the countryside.... I find the supposed increase in listening figures hard to understand as everyone I know of who used to listen to TA has either stopped or now dives in and out. Perhaps unnecessary deaths and sensational story lines are what people want and if so the 5m or so are very welcome to TA and the direction it has taken. I have listened for decades and remember the fine story lines and characters who actually had character........Tom Forrest, George Barford, Nelson Gabriel etc etc who have been replaced by the likes of Jazzer and Jamie....gawd help us!
    Its rather like an old friend who I have known for many years. I have good memories of very happy times together however for the last few years they have become unwell, unable to cope and as a result dreadfully unhappy. They have now passed on never to return.

    • This entry is now closed for comments. Number of positive ratings for comment 20: 0
    • This entry is now closed for comments. Number of negative ratings for comment 20: 0
    Loading…
  • Comment number 19. Posted by TinaGold

    on 4 Jun 2011 22:58

    Dear Mr Davies

    It is very brave of you to re-visit this issue again - and as a result we have the comments from mp : "I know how easy it is for writers and story editors to lose sight of what they have, what's good, what the show is all about, because they're too close to it and liable to forget that their job is to maintain as well as innovate." Please take note of this - this is exactly what has happened here not only to The Archers team but also, now according to you, to 'radio drama' and 'Radio 4 management' who all had a part in this dreadful mistake. You lost sight of what was so good about Nigel as played by Graham Seed, and how rich a result you would have had if you had gone down the 'wheelchair' scenario - see Vicarshusband if you are in any doubt about that. In fact, it might be a good idea to recruit Vicarshusband to the growing band of people who seem to have a part in agreeing storylines!

    What I find most perplexing of all is the refusal of anyone from 'a lowly scriptwriter' to 'Radio 4 management' to acknowledge this major misjudgement. Please do not patronise those of us who disagree with you by using the term bereavement in reference to our expressions of dismay at the 'soaping' of the Archers through such sensationalist storylines.

    • This entry is now closed for comments. Number of positive ratings for comment 19: 0
    • This entry is now closed for comments. Number of negative ratings for comment 19: 0
    Loading…
  • Comment number 18. Posted by Keri Davies

    on 1 Jun 2011 14:54

    >so how come a lowly script writer can sack him by writing him out of the series.

    And it's far from being one scriptwriter's decision. The storyline was agreed not only by The Archers team, but also by radio drama and Radio 4 management.

  • Comment number 17. Posted by mike

    on 30 May 2011 13:54

    "Surely Graham Seed was employed by the BBC, so how come a lowly script writer can sack him by writing him out of the series."

    All the actors are on short-term contracts, they're not full-time employees of the BBC.

    • This entry is now closed for comments. Number of positive ratings for comment 17: 0
    • This entry is now closed for comments. Number of negative ratings for comment 17: 0
    Loading…
  • Comment number 16. Posted by eggnut

    on 30 May 2011 09:13

    I'm very glad to hear that Graham Seed's post-Nigel career is going well.

    I don't feel that the death of Nigel has resulted in any wonderfully creative storytelling, but as I only catch the show very occasionally now I can hardly judge. I'm very surprised to hear that listening is up and will be curious to see if that is sustained.

    • This entry is now closed for comments. Number of positive ratings for comment 16: 0
    • This entry is now closed for comments. Number of negative ratings for comment 16: 0
    Loading…
  • Comment number 15. Posted by Vicarshusband

    on 29 May 2011 11:26

    Maybe, deipnosophista (and hello - I assume from your comment being in premod that you're newish here?) but it still makes for depressing listening and I think that the "wheelchair scenario" would have made for many more varied, engaging and long lasting storylines.

    VH

    • This entry is now closed for comments. Number of positive ratings for comment 15: 0
    • This entry is now closed for comments. Number of negative ratings for comment 15: 0
    Loading…
  • Comment number 14. Posted by deipnosophista

    on 29 May 2011 10:26

    I think the Archers just gets better and better. I hugely admire how the writers are working through the consequences of Nigel's death, as well as the strength of the acting in the responses, from Jill's mature strength, to Elizabeth's guilty desperation to avoid blaming Nigel, to David's masculine retreat into depression. Hats off to the BBC Archers team!

    • This entry is now closed for comments. Number of positive ratings for comment 14: 0
    • This entry is now closed for comments. Number of negative ratings for comment 14: 0
    Loading…
  • Comment number 13. Posted by Joe K

    on 29 May 2011 10:16

    Agreed. The wheelchair was the real 'story' generator. What VW's real reasons for this decision were, we may never know, but she totally botched it.

    • This entry is now closed for comments. Number of positive ratings for comment 13: 0
    • This entry is now closed for comments. Number of negative ratings for comment 13: 0
    Loading…
  • Comment number 12. Posted by LJK

    on 29 May 2011 08:25

    Killing off Nigel Pargetter was the worst storyline decision since I have been listening to Archers, over 20 years.

    I used to look forwards to listening, since his 'death' the storyline has been monotonously fixed to this event.

    The Archers was fundamentally feelgood radio, not any more. The new storylines have yet to materialise and whereas I used to listen religiously, I am finding my listening gradually waning.

    The web site has also been ruined in the last year or 2 (as has BBC news and most other Beeb sites). As an ex pat, my use of the BBC in general is waning at a similar rate.

    • This entry is now closed for comments. Number of positive ratings for comment 12: 0
    • This entry is now closed for comments. Number of negative ratings for comment 12: 0
    Loading…
  • Comment number 11. Posted by Vicarshusband

    on 28 May 2011 13:52

    Shula. Kenton and SHULA.

    • This entry is now closed for comments. Number of positive ratings for comment 11: 0
    • This entry is now closed for comments. Number of negative ratings for comment 11: 0
    Loading…
More comments

More Posts

Next