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  • Jon Kelly
  • 4 Oct 08, 06:40 PM GMT

ST LOUIS, MO: Here's some more reaction to the VP debate, courtesy of Jennifer:

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  • 1. At 02:09am on 05 Oct 2008, tysalpha wrote:

    Glad you guys visited another place while here. I recognize this as Royale bar, which is a resturaunt/pub near my home. It tends to draw a graduate student and artist sort of crowd. Definitely a change from the hockey moms!

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  • 2. At 02:56am on 05 Oct 2008, OldSouth wrote:

    Let's see--In Memphis you seek out a homeless guy for political commentary, in St. Louis you at least found a couple of semi-normal Middle Americans before interviewing young drunk singles.

    The young drunks didn't have much to offer past their vague impressions of how the event looked and felt, as if they couldn't recall much of what was asked or answered.

    This is instructive, because these folks vote as well, and if McCain wins, he has to deal with them.

    Whoever wins has a big mess on his hands!

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  • 3. At 2:50pm on 05 Oct 2008, AntoCapra wrote:

    The Roman Catholic Church I attend, the Monsignor nor the Priest have never mentioned any political agendas nor endorsed any candidates. They have spoken about our duty and, more importantly perhaps, our responsibility to vote. The church has regularly hosted debates, always with all candidates. A weekly reminder from the pulpit to attend such events and to bring with us anyone of any or no religion. That's it, "these are the candidates, now get out and vote."

    It is particularly hard to define any political agenda with the Catholic Church, one tenet that is tantamount is always, under all circumstances, to be kind and love your fellow man. Love and Kindness heard from the pulpit every sunday to be practiced every day and every minute and by extension to help those in need. If you have two coats, give the second to a fellow who has none. Surely socialistic programs would and do fall into line with this.

    Of course another tenet is that always under all circumstance abortion should not be the option. I am sure this is an issue for a lot of Catholics in the decision of a political candidate, but I rarely hear it.

    As polarized as the political parties agendas have become over these, it is a very difficult decision as to which way should a Catholic vote? It is clear from my Church's leaders that these decisions are our own to make, and not theirs. Just as clear that to not make a decision would be a sin.

    Should Helping your Fellow Man and Prohibiting Abortion be Legislative Mandates? NO!

    We all should be free to decide these things on our own, by Law of our Conscience rather than Law of the Land.

    I have 'heard' that some 'churches' in far off distant states have had their 'ministers' from the pulpit endorsing a particular candidate, which for many reason is just plain wrong. Please, keep it off of the pulpit; please, freely endorse it over coffee and pastries in the Church Hall.

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  • 4. At 10:51pm on 05 Oct 2008, eddienix wrote:

    OldSouth: Homlessness and drunkenness are far more normal in America than hockey moms. Hockey is for Canadians and Swedes, you know, people from "liberal" countries. Besides, few if any of those young people at that St. Louis bar seemed very drunk. If they were, then it seems a drunken urbanite from St. Louis perhaps has a more mature, insightful and informed opinion on politics than a suburban hockey mom. Clearly hockey moms aren't soccer moms, so to speak. Soccer moms come down much more in the center. Wait, soccer isn't an American sport either. Where are the baseball, football and basketball moms? In Mexico?

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  • 5. At 6:57pm on 07 Oct 2008, sharpski SOFBTRC wrote:

    SHE DOESNT BELIEVE IN DINOSAURS!!

    she wants to drill for oil because she believes god put it there 6000 years ago and wants this taught in schools

    aside from the usual republican nonsense (you cand see a doctor if your poor, you cant get an abortion if you've been raped, why should the rich pay tax etc etc) the fact that she's a nutjob should exclude her from any government job, let alone the second in command post

    A short term vote getter that will go wrong if mccain dies and she is left to take america back to the middle ages

    God help you if Obama loses, hes not the best candidate (i wanted hillary) but he's the only hope you've got

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