Captain insensible
Just imagine that it's the World Cup final, England v Spain. It's 1-1 at full time with goals by Iniesta and Heskey (I said imagine, OK?). Extra-time can't separate them (although I guarantee that we'll be denied a clear winner by some bogus decision concerning an Oscar-winning keeper's goalmouth writhe) and it's down to pens.
Now, again engaging the full range of possibilities here, imagine both teams score four each (HA!) then David James puts off Nando Torres by turning the luminosity setting on his pink jersey up to 11.
So it's down to one man to win the World Cup. Up he steps, armband on, hair spiked up, and most importantly studs screwed in good and proper. We don't want another Moscow, now do we? And John Terry strikes home the winning spot-kick.
How do we feel as that particular bloke lifts the trophy in the name of England?
On the whole I'd rather it was someone else... anyone else... but will I care? Won't I be punching the air like my fellow beer-soaked Englishmen? Won't I be bawling out that flaming Baddiel and Skinner anthem even though 44 years of hurt doesn't quite scan? Yes I blinking well will.
I mean I'd love some quasi-Mother Theresa in an England kit to lift the trophy but it's not going to happen is it?
Hands up who wants to be England captain?
Young men, more money than sense (and in the case of most footballers that would amount to about 50p) and great herds of lasses who think that life is a choice between a lottery win and a footballer husband, cornering them at every turn. It's a tough life, I'm sure, and not one likely to produce a saint.
Not that the England captaincy doesn't come with certain standards of behaviour attached. And the tabloid allegations claim Terry's dipped below them standards.
Capello may be a pragmatist - and judging by how long it's taking him to make any public pronouncement on the issue he may well be a tease, too - and Terry has been good on the pitch as a skipper. Centre-halves make good captains. Midfielders tend to be too busy, strikers are too damn selfish - at least you'd hope so... centre-backs take a more considered view.
The best club captain of recent times was probably Tony Adams, who was more than capable of making an ass of himself too, but that was before sobriety brought him them unusual sporting qualities of empathy and, gawd help him, poetry.
Even so, it's hard to imagine Terry still wearing an armband come South Africa unless he's having swimming lessons. So the pragmatist will have to find someone else... and who's waiting in the wings?
Wayne Rooney: Touted by one Guardian columnist as the man to bring a sense of honour back to the job. No disrespect, Wazza, but if we're looking at you to do that then we really are near the bottom of a very deep barrel. Rooney's form is officially 'imperious'. And he is behaving well. Them two facts are not unlinked.
Wayne's capacity to turn from toothy street-soccer kid into snarling ogre is a matter of how well stuff is going for him. The idea that fatherhood has brought him a new maturity has not remotely been tested. Ricardo Carvalho's knee in the small of his back for 45 minutes would be a far greater examination. Plus he's a lip-reader's nightmare. So no to Wazza.
Steven Gerrard: Looks like a good choice - I mean he's virtually kept Benitez in employment for five years - but we've heard him bleating way too often about where he plays in the England set-up, and he's all too rarely captured his Liverpool form in an England shirt. He's not ducked the odd kerfuffle himself either. Until he's properly fit again, we just don't know what we're going to get from him. No.
Capello is due to hold talks with Terry
Rio Ferdinand: There's that drugs test he never took 'cos he was buying that jumper (priorities, Rio, priorities). And he's another flaky lad injuries-wise. No.
Frank Lampard: England form has been better recently, but odd to think of him skippering a team with his club captain in the same XI. I have to say though that Lamps has handled a lot of flak with more than a little grace and if he can just avoid a metaphorical up-yours at Hammers fans then he's an OK option.
Ashley Cole: Well he's a definite starter every time and... and... ermm... NO.
David Beckham: He'll be good at all the pre-and post-match waffle. Can't see Becks being anymore than a glorified place-kicker but he could probably muster a good conversation with that egghead Andy Townsend. (On Wednesday night Andy surpassed himself: Leeds had a chance at half-time if the fans could 'raise the roof-levels and the temperature of the noise'. Me neither.)
And who else is there? Barry? James? Milner? And here's the point... none of the real candidates have spotless reputations. None of them look foolproof. We're stupid to think that they would.
Capello is expected to meet Terry on Friday. P.S. Just heard the news about Terry being sacked so that renders the first few paragraphs of this piece superfluous!!
I'm Derek Robson. People call me Robbo. Legend has it I was raised in the furnace and smog of Teesside. Some might say I took the hard road. I like to tell folk I had trials for Middlesbrough, for Hartlepool and for burglary (not guilty). I've always loved sport. My job is to say it as I see it - whether it's in the bar of the Blue Bell or on this blog. You won't find me calling a spade a soil-redistribution implement.
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Fame at last! Again.
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my reservation is not who he has or hasnt cheated on his wife with, but the fact that he's daddie's sauce dad of the year
its an outrage
heinz is FAR superior. if there was a heinz sauce dad of the year id back him all the way even if he'd done something really degenertae and deviant, for footballers, like sleeping with his OWN wife
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we're allowed to talk about this now, presumeably?
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Cripes Robbo, it's 9/10am and you're out of bed and posting away in here ...is the bed on fire?
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just making the most of having the blog all to myself before alvin and a flashmob of chipmunks high on sugary drinks arrive, armed with electric mod-prods
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Was he caught with his pants down then?
Or was he as quick as a flash?
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damn theyve arrived
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Trying to sell his captains box at Wembley is even worse, allegedly. How much money do these people want!!!
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Just imagine that it's the World Cup final, England v Spain. It's 1-1 at full time with goals by Iniesta and Heskey
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Brilliant Robbo. Even JDR won't be able to complain about a lack of humour in this blog when you start with two such cracking jokes as those. England in the World Cup final and Heskey scoring a goal. You're such a wag Robbo.
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5. At 10:45am on 05 Feb 2010, blogdignag wrote:
just making the most of having the blog all to myself before alvin and a flashmob of chipmunks high on sugary drinks arrive, armed with electric mod-prods
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You rang?
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I was wondering what you were going to write about for this one. England captain. Snore. At least its short.
The reason why you are considering keeping Terry and can't choose one of the other is simple. England just don't have anyone who is captain material.
They're not the only ones, Ireland had to pick Robbie Keane. Nuff said.
Anyway what does it matter? If you don't have a stand-out captain then you can stick the armband on the mascot for all the difference it will make.
Maybe a saintly sort should be picking up the trophy but that's hardly going to matter in England's case now is it?
As for the current incumbent (at 10:46am anyways) well the whole should he stay or should he go argument is nothing to do with the captaincy itself. Its about Terry as a person. People don't like hypocrites and liars (can you be a hypocrite without being a liar?) and that's where the flak is coming from.
The others on your list may have done naughty things but to the best of my knowledge they didn't try to hide behind censorship or parade themselves as 'sauce of the year'. Terry did, he continually does it, and people will always despise him for it.
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id suggest we keep terry as the captain on the pitch but keep it secret from the media; then appoint a shop window dummy captain for after match interviews - beckham probably but miming, with lampard crouched behind him doing the voice over.
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And bloggidy is right.
Heinz every time.
They're not even in the same league.
Ketchup wise anyway. But Daddies can't even compete on the brown sauce front with HP remaining undefeated champ.
Daddies, second best in all formats. They're the Andy Murray of the sauce world.
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Can't resist a swipe at Rooney and Ferdinand can you Robbo? Is it really just down to the fact that they play in red Utd shirts? I'm sure you would have no problem with either of them if they were at another club.
I think Capello will stick by Terry, he won't want to deal with the hassle of finding another captain who is capable. Gerrard hasn't convinced me this season that he should have an automatic place in the team let alone be captain. The rest are hypothetical, depends how their seasons go.
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They're the Liverpool of the sauce world Gaz!!
So close, yet so far!
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Chill out Pulp. He has a swipe at Gerrard and Lampard as well so it's not an anti-un**ed rant. Why do so many Un**ed fans have chips on thier shoulders and look for any reason to rant about everyone hating un**ed?
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Graham Taylor has it about right...http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8499529.stm
England football captain is all ceremonial duties anyway.Pick your best XI and choose from that.The rest of it is all nonsense pr guff and heads or tails,kick towards the home fans.No more than that.
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surely he should only remain captain when we play away?
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let he among you who is without sauce cast the first sausage. or as omlette says "I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me. I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious; with more offences at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves all; believe none of us. Double fries, please."
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Shame Ledley King can't play back to back games or I would have suggested him as captain. Mind he's had a few stories to do with boozy nights out.
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Those were my thoughs a couple of days ago Jacks! Has Graham Taylor been reading the last blog?
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@16 And a swipe at Cole and Beckham as well.
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To be honest N'gog,I think he's got his hands full at Watford.
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Robbo rags on all the big four fairly equally ... he used to rag on the barcodes too until they disappeared somewhere ...
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Ledley's a fighter not a lover!
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20. At 10:57am on 05 Feb 2010, PulpGrape wrote:
Not a Utd fan Colchester, don't make assumptions. Theres just a trend in his blogs of anti Utd and anti Arsenal sentiment. You can remove your brown coloured tongue now.
Pulp - he has a go at everyone!!!!
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#20 Must have missed the anti-Arsenal sentiment in this one, though to be fair a lack of England internationals other than Walcott doesn't help.
If you regularly read robbo's blogs, you will note he is more anti "big 4" than anti one particular club.
Am not even sure the criticisms are harsh to be fair and most have a ring of truth about them or have you just missed the Rooney when things dont go his way and decides that a studs up challenge is the only answer??
If Capello wants a nice guy as captain who is likely to start and has experience of being a captain, surely its got to be Barry?? Don't recall him doing anything dodgy other than joining the bundles of money at City.
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You could always make David James or Heskey captain
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20. At 10:57am on 05 Feb 2010, PulpGrape wrote:
Not a Utd fan Colchester, don't make assumptions. Theres just a trend in his blogs of anti Utd and anti Arsenal sentiment. You can remove your brown coloured tongue now.
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Just assumed that you were due to your rigorous defence of a guy who missed a drugs test and a guy who ALLEGEDLY slept with a pensioner and paid for the "priviledge". So how does Robbo having a go at Terry, Lampard, Cole, Beckham, Ferdinand and Rooney make this an anti un**ed or anti-arsenal rant. He'd have a problem trying to slate Arsenal in a blog about the England captaincy as they don't have one candidate for the role in their entire squad, unless Sol is going to make a late push for the team.
And the brown tounge is due to my consumption of HP sauce. I won't touch that second rate Daddes rubbish.
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Hey Jacks, is that what Vanessa P said?
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Hands full in watford i mean!
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COlch - leave it mate - you're better than that :)
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Give the armband to the GK, so long as it isn't James. He can't concentrate on what he's already paid to do. Green, Foster and Hart haven't done anything to irk anyone that I know of.
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@33 Oh no I'm not
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Oi Colch, how goes the innings? They got me at 67 yesterday evening, though I still blame bad light for my spooning it to deep mid point.
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Make Joe Hart the first choice keeper and the captain.
Or is it too serious a suggestion?
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Deep mid point?
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48 not out Star. It's been more a Boycott grind than a Gower-esque flurry from me so far. Will be increasing the pace today to try and get to my century quickly
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I say fire Terry from the squad altogether.
Bring back Sol.
Sol for England captain!
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No problem with Hart as GK,Spits.As for captaincy,somebody eloquent enough at a press conference will do.
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4 MPs now to go on trial so no speaky about that please.
We cannot prejudice the right to a fair trial for the allegedly lying, cheating, thieving scumbags.
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As much as I dislike John Terry for his (and his family's) off the field antics (the bloke would sell his grandmother for a few quid) what matters to me when it comes to the England captain is the best leader on the field wears the armband and up until now that person without a shadow of doubt is JT.
Like everyone in the country I want to see England lift the World Cup in the summer, personnaly if for that to happen it means JT remains captain then so be it.
The only question is whether the non Chelsea members of the England squad still hold the same respect for him, if they don't then there could be issues and that is what Fabio Capello needs to sort out.
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41. At 11:11am on 05 Feb 2010, JacksfromBuxton wrote:
No problem with Hart as GK,Spits.As for captaincy,somebody eloquent enough at a press conference will do.
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Asking a bit much there jacks mate!
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CFC,
I believe this will be interesting for you
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/southend_utd/8494624.stm
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Forget about the captain issue for a second but does anyone here actually like John Terry?
I'm sure there's a Chelsea fan who will try to sing his praises but even when you look into your heart you'll probably admit he's one of those inherently un-likeable people.
You know, like Gary Neville.
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Anyone watching Lost tonight?
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Whatever Terry did/didn't do should be irrelevant. How having his dirty laundry aired in the media affects his mentality and approach on the big stage as well as how united the England camp is does matter. If he has half his mind elsewhere when in South Africa then he probably shouldn't be in the squad at all let alone captain. If the squad is divided by his presence then he shouldn't be there.
If he is fully focused on the games and the camp is united then there is no story here and we don't have to worry about anything other than penalty shootouts and dodgy keepers, like all other world cups.
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In anticipation of comments of a less than complimentary nature (JDR), try this - some of the comments are erudite, inciteful and intellectually challenging???:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/eastenders/2010/02/get-your-anoraks-on-trains-are.shtml
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JDR will soon be here with a critique of tired old formulas, no humour, nothing new or original. How about some analysis Robbo we will hear him cry, smomething meaningful rather than using the last blogs comments page as material.
Maybe get him to do a blog on the influence of 80's synth-pop on football - Go West & Ian Wright's single (In Japan they used to think he was a pop star rather than a footballer)
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46. At 11:13am on 05 Feb 2010, GazUtd wrote:
Forget about the captain issue for a second but does anyone here actually like John Terry?
I'm sure there's a Chelsea fan who will try to sing his praises but even when you look into your heart you'll probably admit he's one of those inherently un-likeable people.
You know, like Gary Neville.
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Gaz I absolutely hate Terry's guts, for some reason or the other (dont care about sleeping around as long as its not with a team mate's gal), but he is as good a centre half as we have.
Top class defender. Major League A-Ho
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45. At 11:13am on 05 Feb 2010, Spitfire wrote:
CFC,
I believe this will be interesting for you
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/southend_utd/8494624.stm
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Oh bugger. Thanks very much Arsene.
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47. At 11:14am on 05 Feb 2010, PulpGrape wrote:
Anyone watching Lost tonight?
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Yes along with 24, Scrubs & 2 and a half men it has made TV watchable again.
Which MP's are going on trial as alleged lying, cheating, stealing weasels?
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I would not class Terry as the best centre back in the world and think at Chelski, his partner (no someone elses) often makes him look better than he is. However, in an England shirt there are not many better mainly because the main competitors constantly seem to be injured.
As for liking him, nope definitely not. The alleged sleeping around makes it worse whilst his various other rumoured activites highlight the all round nice guy he really is.
A bit of a surprise he has turned out like this bearing in mind his parents. D'oh.
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42. At 11:11am on 05 Feb 2010, GazUtd wrote:
4 MPs now to go on trial so no speaky about that please.
We cannot prejudice the right to a fair trial for the allegedly lying, cheating, thieving scumbags.
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Good to see the recruitment drive for the League of Cheating Weasels going so well ...
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53. At 11:19am on 05 Feb 2010, adampsb wrote:
Which MP's are going on trial as alleged lying, cheating, stealing weasels?
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3 Labour ones and a Tory peer.
Dunno if there's any truth in the matter that one of them was having an affair with the other one's missus while filing expenses for their fathers coke selling and helping keep their mother out of jail for stealing a bottle of Daddies sauce.
Allegedly.
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Without wishing to jinx the blog we've reached 57-0 (57 posts, 0 mods). Keep up the good work everyone. And no Star that's not a challenge to you personally to get modded
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Think no. 56 may face the third umpire.
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Anyone see Mock the Week last night?? Whilst undoubtedly not as funny since Frankie Boyle got modded off, did love the comment about how JT's mum felt when she read the headlines about her son in the paper she had just stolen. Allegedly.
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New League of Cheating Weasels to include:
MPs Elliot Morley, David Chaytor and Jim Devine and peer Lord Hanningfield are to be charged over expenses claims, the CPS announces.
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This entire discussion is based on the (frankly absurd) principle that no-one in the England dressing room knew that John Terry had an affair with Wayne Bridge's girlfriend, which I find exceptionally hard to believe. Sure it was kept out of the press, but I assume at least some of the players knew about it in some bit of dressing room banter.
The only issue I can forsee with this is that should his wife leave him or something along those lines, he may find a drop in form/lack of confidence, which then might pose greater concerns and should be the only reason for him losing his captaincy and not that the world knows that he had an affair. He's only human after all.
As for potential replacements, I'd say Gerrard is the obvious choice. He's Liverpool's club captain and even if he doesn't replicate his form for England, that's irrelevant, because captaincy is about leadership skills and not form.
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A blogdignag style curse shall befall the first person to get modded on this blog
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Mock The Week has indeed suffered for losing Frankie but it is coping. Does anyone think that little g1t Russell whatshisface is actually funny though? Or that bald Andy bloke?
Thankfully Hugh did a Prince Philip impression last night, always excellent. Do yous Brits know how lucky you are to have Prince Philip?
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Alas MTW isn't quite the same without Frankie there telling us all how grim Scotland is and keeping things like the racist door firmly ajar.
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Interesting (well to me anyway) that nobody seems to like John Terry. I doubt anyone would want to have him round for tea nor trust him alone with anything in their house.
However no one cares if he lifts the World Cup. Amazing how morals go out the window where football is concerned isn't it?
I have struggled greatly in the past with Gary Neville lifting any trophy or having anything about him shown in a good light such is my hatred for the ***** ****** ****** ******* ******.
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60. At 11:29am on 05 Feb 2010, pilch666 wrote:
New League of Cheating Weasels to include:
MPs Elliot Morley, David Chaytor and Jim Devine and peer Lord Hanningfield are to be charged over expenses claims, the CPS announces.
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Needless to say I'm trusting NONE of them with the role of Treasurer for the League.
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I dont mind Russell Howard and think he has his moments. Andy Parsons has, however, become more smug and up his own a*s since Frankie left.
Spot on though Gaz about Hugh. Consistently funny.
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@ the now referred 62 ... I think you've just activated your own curse there Colch, amazing given that was probably the least offensive/demamatory post on here so far today.
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Hugh is awesome no doubt about it.
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Defamatory even .... come to think of it, is spelling defamatory incorrectly a form of defamation in itself?
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LOL at whoever referred the curse calling post.
Quality humour.
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68. At 11:38am on 05 Feb 2010, Starfire_The_Third wrote:
@ the now referred 62 ... I think you've just activated your own curse there Colch, amazing given that was probably the least offensive/demamatory post on here so far today.
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If you dare the mods - they will act - red rag to a bull (or wife to a JT) that one
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CFC - have you been cursed??
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Gaz - yeah that Russel fella aint that funny - too pc!!!! THo the baldy fella can be ok.
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68. At 11:38am on 05 Feb 2010, Starfire_The_Third wrote:
@ the now referred 62 ... I think you've just activated your own curse there Colch, amazing given that was probably the least offensive/demamatory post on here so far today.
73. At 11:40am on 05 Feb 2010, pilch666 wrote:
CFC - have you been cursed??
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Is that proof that the Mods understand irony?
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65. At 11:35am on 05 Feb 2010, GazUtd wrote:
Interesting (well to me anyway) that nobody seems to like John Terry. I doubt anyone would want to have him round for tea nor trust him alone with anything in their house.
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Certainly wouldn't trust him alone with my misses!!!
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What did you write at 62 to get moded colch?
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FBH you think Russell Howard is politically correct? The same person who continually does an impression of a mentally handicapped person or spastic?
Unless pc means something else in Boro. Parmo championing?
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Is anyone a member of this...
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Robbo-Robson/51956491839?ref=search&sid=633094680.3272004606..1
I've recently discovered Facebook. Mafia Wars is now ruining my life.
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Terry is arrogant, I don't like him one bit. Stripping him of captaincy however, would definitely be the wrong move. He's a good player and a good leader.
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Here's a thought, Fabio for Captain. "IF" we win the WC he can lift the trophy as well.
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76. I bet your misses doesn't look like Bridge's ex so I wouldn't worry about "IF" JT came round your house for tea !!!
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77. At 11:44am on 05 Feb 2010, Ngog And Kiss It wrote:
What did you write at 62 to get moded colch?
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I said tha the first person to get modded on this blog would get a blogdignag style curse upon them. and got modded for it.
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83. At 11:48am on 05 Feb 2010, ColchesterFC wrote:
77. At 11:44am on 05 Feb 2010, Ngog And Kiss It wrote:
What did you write at 62 to get moded colch?
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I said tha the first person to get modded on this blog would get a blogdignag style curse upon them. and got modded for it.
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Haha! Gotta love it!
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At the risk of being modded again........I the defendant accuse the Mods of having a sense of humour
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Atleast the mods kept you to your word colch!
If only John Terry did the same and kept his word..........................
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"I accuse the Mods of having a sense of humour"
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Clearly an outrageous accusation.
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If they wind up claiming 62 was off topic then I guess I'm going to have about 20 emails later on ...
EDIT: make that 21
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Allegedly.........
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Lampard it is then(you heard it here first)!
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Peter Kay for captain
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Will Lampard be the first ever middle class England Captain?
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90. At 11:55am on 05 Feb 2010, Paul wrote:
Lampard it is then(you heard it here first)!
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91. At 11:57am on 05 Feb 2010, Paul17 wrote:
Peter Kay for captain
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Is Paul17, the 17th generation of Paul?
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Hiya everyone
first time post here on the Robbo blog, been reading it for quite a while now. To Spitfire, as a Citeh supporter I second the Joe Hart nod for captain and first choice goalkeeper. There's no chance of it happening but one can always hope.
And secondly, and more importantly, before JoeDavisRoach turns up, does anyone else suspect that he and Robbo are actually one and the same?
Really them two should tour as a double act, BBC footie pundits' own Chuckle Brothers!!!
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93. Yes a very long line of pauls
does it really matter who the england captain is? the team will be the same doesnt make any difference at all.
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94 Anvard Davissen,
We have had our suspicions for some time now that Robbo and JDR are indeed the same person.
It was made even more murky when it was alleged that they are seeing the same woman (or as they called the inflatable).
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12. At 10:50am on 05 Feb 2010, blogdignag wrote:
id suggest we keep terry as the captain on the pitch but keep it secret from the media; then appoint a shop window dummy captain for after match interviews - beckham probably but miming, with lampard crouched behind him doing the voice over.
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or crouch lamparded behind him? It's a good plan all round.
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#92 Spitfire - did Southgate ever captain England as he is undoubtedly middle class. At worst.
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97. At 12:06pm on 05 Feb 2010, Robbo Robson wrote:
12. At 10:50am on 05 Feb 2010, blogdignag wrote:
id suggest we keep terry as the captain on the pitch but keep it secret from the media; then appoint a shop window dummy captain for after match interviews - beckham probably but miming, with lampard crouched behind him doing the voice over.
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or crouch lamparded behind him? It's a good plan all round.
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whats wrong with crouching Lampard in front of him?
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My question for JT would be this:
Did this happen BEFORE he was given the job?
If it did and nothing else comes out, then let him keep the captaincy. If he is still at it or it happened whilst he was captain, then give him the boot, make Wayne Bridge captain. He has been very quiet during this whole episode and acted like a real gent.
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Was Southgate not just middle of the road?
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98. At 12:06pm on 05 Feb 2010, pilch666 wrote:
#92 Spitfire - did Southgate ever captain England as he is undoubtedly middle class. At worst.
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Mate he captained Middlesbrough. Do the middle class ever mingle with the kind?
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re 98 pilch,
turns out Southgate did Captain England for one full half of the game.
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Crouching Lampard, Hidden Heskey.
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Who cares who wears an armband? they should all be taking responsibility on the pitch for what they do, not leaving it to the one with the biggest gob. So Terry loses the captaincy, then what? we give it to one of the others, whose public behaviour and private lives have left us doing this debate of morality and "are they fit to lead our nation?" conversation over and over again.
Rooney: Sleeps with your grandma
Ferdinand: Cant remember important things
Gerrard: punches people in nightclubs.
Here are your role models England, take your pick!
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And two singles takes me to 50 not out. A fine innings of mod baiting
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The example John Terry has shown is poor. True, no footballer is perfect or a saint (except Ryan Giggs), but there's a difference here. Rio missing a drugs test, couple of random fights down the boozer - whatever. The fact remains that this is the highest profile incident involving a footballer in a long time.
The problem is youngsters look up to the England captain - the person setting the example on the field. It's just the way the sport has become nationwide.
I'd rather NOT win the world cup and have a different captain than Captain Cheat. Not for myself, because I couldn't care less - but for the millions of kids that will see that if you're good at what you do, then morals are thrown out of the window.
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Robbo Robson | 09:40 UK time, Friday, 5 February 2010
Just imagine that it's the World Cup final, England v Spain. It's 1-1 at full time with goals by Iniesta and Heskey (I said imagine, OK?). Extra-time can't separate them (although I guarantee that we'll be denied a clear winner by some bogus decision concerning an Oscar-winning keeper's goalmouth writhe) and it's down to pens.
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Classic Robbo,
Classic.
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Cor blimey Robbo, this one was up early, is there an extra long weekend session in the Blue Bell with an early "kick off" planned?
Well, well who's gonna be captain, Who cares they're all planks anyway. The days of the dandy gentleman footballers are long dead anyway and is anyone really surprised that people who are being paid millions and are constantly being told how great they are by all and sundry actually turn out to be less then repatable??? Per'lease, modern day big time footballers are narcisists, (the good ones are anyway) that selfishness is probably what got them there in the first place.
If Terry's still got the respect of the dressing room than let him stay captain, to heck with what the self proclaimed guardians of morals and justice (the gutter press) think.
ps, I'm no real fan of Terry, but I still think he had the most attributes to be Captain, if not then based on recent events it may be Lampard.
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Congrats on the 50 Colch ...well earned indeed.
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I would like to withdraw my accusation that the Mods have a sense of humour as they have modded it
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re 107,
what really bothers me is why the hell are kids these days look up to every Tom, Dick and Hary as a role model except their own parents?
What the hell went wrong?
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Spitfire - to be fair, Southgate captained and managed Middlesborough. Wonder if he also owned the place, not the club, but the whole lot.
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Amazed nothing I've said has gone yet ...I'm guessing MP's are fair game as far as the mods are concerned ...
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Does Terry have any kids, I mean with his wife and not those he got rid of or are with other peoples' wives/girlfriends etc.
Just curious if so whether they admire their dad??
Also, has there been any comment from his wife. She must be proud.
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re: 112
I'd like to say that kids still look up to their parents - I know I do - but also as a kid, if you're watching football every week and support your team, and you support your country, then you're naturally going to think "wow - that man just heavily contributed to us beating that other team. I really want to be like him"
Now, if that same kid see's that Terry has also cheated on his wife with a fellow national team-mate's ex girlfriend, and isn't punished for it, it just sets the complete wrong example! Especially when that child reaches an age where he understands what's happening.
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It's like Andrew Cole has said himself, what's the big deal about captaincy? Give it to ANYONE other than Terry (he didn't say that but that's what I think) captains aren't even important and that's obvious nowadays, Rooney leads from the front, shouts at players, gives 110% each game, give him the captains armband and what extra responsibilities are there? None. When Lampard is captain instead of Terry due to injuries, what does he do different? Nothing. Cole says so himself, captains don't make speeches, they don't do anything that they normally wouldn't do. While Beckham was in the England team and still the captain, Terry played like he normally plays, same applies to Rio when someone else is captain in the United team. If Rooney refuses to listen to Terry during an England game, what's going to happen then? Terry has no power, all he can do is cry to Capello but he could do that without the captains armband, the only true "power" captains have is to speak to the ref...score!
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I don't think children don't look up to sportsmen as role models,they may admire them but not use them as role models.More likely it's Katie Price they follow...
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Thats it.
When I have kids, I am sending them to live in Saudi Arabia where they wont have such poor role models to look up to.
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Morning All.
As I have no desire to offend those thinking england can even sniff a world cup let alone win it i would like to say:
I have no time for any of candidates listed I also have no time for the Italian in charge, i have no time for the weak and pretty gutless FA.
I dont like Beckham the fact I have to type his name fills me with
considerable anger and other desires.
England, no matter who is in charge will win Naff All and will be home as expected by many, EARLY.
I point blank refuse to support the English National side all the time a foriegner remains in charge.
Englands national teams no matter what sport should be headed by English Coaches not S Africans, not Americans, not Italians, not Australians.
rant over.
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O Hang on!
That wont work would it?
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Katie Price - now there is a role model. Just goes to show you don't need talent to become famous and wealthy. And an interesting one for JT to approach bearing in mind her current half can probably handle himself.
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#121 Spit - All depends on whether your kids have an interest in becoming martyrs.
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Glad someone mentioned Gary Neville.
All he's gotta do is get in the team and he's the ideal captain.
Experienced, mature, dignified and there's no way any of the WAGS would sleep with him - perfect.
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16. At 10:56am on 05 Feb 2010, ColchesterFC wrote:
Chill out Pulp. He has a swipe at Gerrard and Lampard as well so it's not an anti-un**ed rant. Why do so many Un**ed fans have chips on thier shoulders and look for any reason to rant about everyone hating un**ed?
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Oh that's clever, I see what you've done there. You've replaced two of the letters of "United" with asterisks, as if you imply that the word "United" is an expletive, because you don't like Manchester United. Haha. Oh, how very droll.
It's a good thing you forced that witticism into your post three times as well, because it's so very subtle that I didn't quite get it the first and second times I read it.
You bewildered individual.
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Kanchelskis, we do that with K***ne too ;)
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120. At 12:27pm on 05 Feb 2010, davidgilmourthe3rd wrote:
Morning All.
As I have no desire to offend those thinking england can even sniff a world cup let alone win it i would like to say:
I have no time for any of candidates listed I also have no time for the Italian in charge, i have no time for the weak and pretty gutless FA.
I dont like Beckham the fact I have to type his name fills me with
considerable anger and other desires.
England, no matter who is in charge will win Naff All and will be home as expected by many, EARLY.
I point blank refuse to support the English National side all the time a foriegner remains in charge.
Englands national teams no matter what sport should be headed by English Coaches not S Africans, not Americans, not Italians, not Australians.
rant over.
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Did anyone else hear the Dambusters theme as they read this?
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I think Bridge would make a good skipper ....... I'll get me coat
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@127
Nah Robbo, I just heard the whole thing in the voice of Nick Griffin.
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Nick Griffin for captain?? Don't recall him claiming more expenses than he should have done.
Joey Barton for vice captain.
Dennis Wise for mascot.
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Yeah, I'm biased - don't care.
Tottenham's new captain is a superb central defender, is English (this helps a bit in this area) and is a natural leader... and a great player (did I say that already?).
Michael Dawson for England captain.
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I'm not an Englishman and so can offer a somewhat neutral suggestion. Why not go for a neutral, someone who plays outside the Big Four, with a track record of leadership and relatively quiet reputation. You can add to it ability to organize and inspire. Gareth Barry might be it. He's been captain before, at Aston Villa, and is one of those players who aren't particularly fussy in play (like Carlos Dunga for Brazil in 1994). Just a thought. An alternative would be to pick a captain from a smaller club where there's less pressure on a player and less fuss to be made. Big names don't necessarily make good captains, much like good ex-players rarely light the world of soccer management.
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perhaps i went slightly OTT. apologies
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Here here jaydrawmer. Couldn't have said it better myself (but I'll try:)).
IF England do win the WC and Terry lifts the cup and the nation hails him as a hero, what kind of example does that set to the children who love football. Adults can't choose the role models for kids, they do so themselves.
I really don't know how this situation can be improved. I suppose the media don't really help. Either England are the best team in the world and the players are demigods OR they are awful and the players are cr*p, have no class and no discipline.
Personally, I don't respect any of the footballers England have and I hope to see good footballers, who play the game in the right way and some decency and class, in the WC.
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134. At 12:44pm on 05 Feb 2010, Amanbro wrote:
Here here jaydrawmer. Couldn't have said it better myself (but I'll try:)).
IF England do win the WC and Terry lifts the cup and the nation hails him as a hero, what kind of example does that set to the children who love football. Adults can't choose the role models for kids, they do so themselves.
I really don't know how this situation can be improved. I suppose the media don't really help. Either England are the best team in the world and the players are demigods OR they are awful and the players are cr*p, have no class and no discipline.
Personally, I don't respect any of the footballers England have and I hope to see good footballers, who play the game in the right way and some decency and class, in the WC.
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Lets hope then that England dont even make it out of the groups and then, when the nation's kids ask their parents why Engerland are so rubbish at footy they could sit them down and explain its because Uncle Johnny was being naughty with aunty V. and as a result Uncle Wayne (the other one) was mad. This led to little things that led to more little things leading to a very poor team.
(Allegedly of course)
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I'd love Beckham to get the captaincy...mainly for the frothing from certain sections of the footie media.
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128 Tony
Spot on
Get Bridge for captain, thats got to be the best option that will teach terry(the only small problem is he is the 15th best english left back).
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Extra-time can't separate them (although I guarantee that we'll be denied a clear winner by some bogus decision concerning an Oscar-winning keeper's goalmouth writhe) and it's down to pens.
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Unlike West Germany in some year before 1967 where they were denied a win by some bogus decision by a Russian linesman.
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Did anyone else hear the Dambusters theme as they read this?
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No, I did hear clown shoes flopping around though.
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Last time we won the World Cup we had a REAL GENTLEMAN in charge - we won't win it again while the opposite applies.
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The ACTIM index rated him the best English right back in the 2004–05 season. He's one of the most experienced defenders in the Premier League. He doesn't faff around trying to score goals like Glen Johnson & co. Nuff said. Tony Hibbert to get a surprise call-up and captain England to World Cup glory, scoring that winning penalty in the final.
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I think that John Terry has to lose the captaincy because of his actions. What message is being sent if he doesn't? As to whether he should still represent England on the field, I think that is an entirely different matter.
The number of people who have led blameless lives can be counted on the fingers of one thumb, and while what he did was poor behaviour and showed a distinct lack of judgement, I'm not sure it should prevent him from playing.
He should however lose the captaincy.
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Why is it that yet again the gutter press seem determined to undermine the England team prior to a major competition?
Terry may act like a bit of a numpty off the field but surely it's what he does on the field that matters.He's a human being first and then a footballer and most human beings commit indiscretions sometimes, even tabloid journos.
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Robbo - Can't help wondering what the England dressing room will feel like in the future, whether Terry stays or goes as Captain is perhaps neither here nor there; if him and Wayne Bridge are both in the squad then it will become impossible to garner any team spirit -I am sure that will be Capello's one and only concern.
I suppose Capello will want to know from Terry today is everything out there now, or is there anymore 'revelations' to come out?
Why is it that whenever there is the slightest prospect of our success the England side always manages to 'shoot itself in the foot' - this time even before we get to the WC finals.
Personally, if I were Capello, JT would be 'out on his ear' altogether - not because of any ethical reasons, or role model issues, etc. but simply because he has put us in this position - Captain, Leadership- don't make me laugh!
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124. At 12:30pm on 05 Feb 2010, SmartAlex wrote:
Glad someone mentioned Gary Neville.
All he's gotta do is get in the team and he's the ideal captain.
Experienced, mature, dignified and there's no way any of the WAGS would sleep with him - perfect.
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ha ha, Think you mis read the previous GNev post.
Mature and dignified??? Yes indeed, as proved by his hand gestures to CTev in the CC. Come on mate!!
Do agree that the WAGS would probably be safe though.
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James Milner is the ideal candidate. He will be the England captain at some stage in the future anyway and he's playing better in the centre than any of the other candidates, may as well blood him now. He's a model pro and an example to all other footballers.
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Wayne Bridge for Captain surely?!
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142. At 12:56pm on 05 Feb 2010, Spurs59er wrote:
The number of people who have led blameless lives can be counted on the fingers of one thumb.............
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Only in Chernobyl (Allegedly)
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The problem is not how much the captaincy is linked to the football. If this is a guy who will take 10000 quid for an illegal tour of the bridge and will cheat on his best friend how do you know he won t throw away matches at the finals for th right price.
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Has this not been done to death by now?Can we move on.Gunners,how do you fancy your chances Sunday?Un**ed fans,is it good news Hargreaves may be fit soon..http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8497856.stm..
Biggest of all,are Robbo and FBH ready to cope with the hiding they will hand out on Saturday to my lot...
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145.
the 1st part was meant to be ironic...
the 2nd part, not!
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Top 11 dislikeables. They're either blatantly 'orrible, or worse, public-goody-two-shoes with the heart and soul of Satan (allegedly):
11 Ruud Gullit
10 Arjen Robben
9 Glen Hoddle
8 Jens Lehmann
7 Barry Ferguson
6 Thierry Henry
5 Ashley Cole
4 Derby County
3 John Terry (c)
2 Steven Gerrard
1 Dennis Wise
Congratulations to Chelsea for showcasing the talents of many of these individuals.
Disgusted,
Nottingham
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151 Alex, Then I beg your pardon.
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You might be able to live with it Robbo but some of us would rather believe Katie Price marries for love than John Terry is worthy of even dreaming of lifting the World Cup!
I'm not Lampard's biggest fan and when Gerrard and him are on top form I'd still not play both of them (prefering Gerrard up to the start of this season but now that has reversed), but if he is to be picked everytime then he is the man.
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should be gerrard. Not that I'm his biggest fan, but I reckon the armband might see him capture some of his Livepool form. Lead by example and all that. Alright he punched that bloke over what music he was playing (allegedly), still, in comparison to Terry he's a saint. And I fancy he might come into form just in time for the world cup
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Ah Stevie Gernard,honest pro...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GKXAKQY-0Y
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http://img706.yfrog.com/img706/4666/daddies.jpg
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No Vinnie Jones on that list Kenny?
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#152 Surely you have missed off Joey Barton (who is worse than JT0 and Didier Drogba.
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To be fair to The Huygh Lord Of Huyton, at least he was acquitted in a proper court (fair dos, the jury were all decked out in red, but even still).
Everyone knows Terry's going to keep it anyway, as disgusting as he is.
That's English football for you.
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And apologies if you saw this last night, but that was the neck-end of the blog...
http://img694.yfrog.com/img694/7421/chocorange.jpg
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150 Jacks mate.
Sunday should be interesting, many are expecting Arsenal to get toinked (Robboism) so they'll be going in as underdogs, which seems to suit them better. Everytime they start to get hyped up thei inevitable fall.
Will be a good opportunity to test the mettle of JT after the week he's had, if we're lucky his head might not be in the right place. (insert joke here)Chelsea are a good strong unit, but without JT firing on full cylinders they're not the same animal. Hull did well to get a draw against them midweek and if our players turn up (they didn't really against Utd) then we might just upset them.
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53. At 11:19am on 05 Feb 2010, adampsb wrote:
Yes along with 24, Scrubs & 2 and a half men it has made TV watchable again.
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In that vein maybe Crouch should do the post match Captain's interview whilst standing on Rio's shoulders, dressed in one ridiculously large suit. "I'm the world's most GIANT international football captain. Don't be afraid, I'm just like Terry, only GIANT...and I won't sleep with your ex whilst my wife looks after my kids."
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A win for the gunners would be great,H2.If you do lose,it isn't the end of the world.Plenty of points still to gain/lose yet.
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Got draw written all over it.
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Good read, sums it up perfectly, there arent really any candidates who are significantly better than Terry.
Only criticism..... Tony Adams, best club captain....... surely Keane cant be far off, Turin..... out of the final and still produces a match winning display when so many others would have faltered... but i spose to point still stands that he got himself into a HELL of a lot of trouble.
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big game for Spurs as we're hosting Villa on Saturday. Frankly after the fock ups we've made this year, if we don't win our games against Villa and City we've no chance of keeping 4th spot now.
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#158 Starfire, how dare you suggest Vincent Peter Jones. Ex-Chelsea yes, but for once a spirited thoroughbred in the mould of Mr Kenneth Burns himself.
#159 Pilch, yes Barton would have replaced possibly Hoddle. This, if he had stubbed out his cigar in both, not just one, of Jamie Tandy's eyes.
Disgusted,
Nottingham
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Star,please please please stop now.We'll end up McNuggetified on here...
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167. At 1:28pm on 05 Feb 2010, Starfire_The_Third wrote:
big game for Spurs as we're hosting Villa on Saturday. Frankly after the fock ups we've made this year, if we don't win our games against Villa and City we've no chance of keeping 4th spot now.
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which sounds ever so unlikely now that Lawro has tipped you to win.
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i've no intention of joining in with this media demonisation of jt. im personally extremely surprised he slept with all those women and still don't actually believe it.
in fact im surprised he slept with any women. he has the shy hissing sibilant lithp, the bling and the mincing gait (i swear he stands like a teapot) of widow tawnky's evil, predatory sister.
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170. At 1:30pm on 05 Feb 2010, Spitfire wrote:
167. At 1:28pm on 05 Feb 2010, Starfire_The_Third wrote:
big game for Spurs as we're hosting Villa on Saturday. Frankly after the fock ups we've made this year, if we don't win our games against Villa and City we've no chance of keeping 4th spot now.
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which sounds ever so unlikely now that Lawro has tipped you to win.
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Well that's just the kiss of death personified there ...
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148. At 1:06pm on 05 Feb 2010, Holloway2Holland wrote:
142. At 12:56pm on 05 Feb 2010, Spurs59er wrote:
The number of people who have led blameless lives can be counted on the fingers of one thumb.............
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H2 - I blame Mrs terry for this media storm. She bought him Ukrainian boxer-shorts for christmas. but to be fair she did say to him: Chernobyl fall out.
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171 Blog,
you may have stated the reason how he was able to get away with it for so long. No one would have believed the rumours.
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Jacks, a lot was made about our run of 4 games, (Villa, Utd, Chelsea, L'pool) admitedly by me too, but I've come to the opinion that it's our run in that will make or break us. I had a look back at last years results and saw that Utd only managed to take one point from us and didn't do all that well against the other "top 4" teams yet still won the league.
BTP.
I'd settle for that (aka bite your hand off)
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H2H,
Me too mate, me too.
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Come on arsenal - batter chelski!
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173 Bloggy.
Ha ha ha
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Spit,
Lawro's tipped us to lose....
RESULT!!!
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Good article and agree with most of what has been said. However I think there are two issues overriding in this debate. Firstly, I agree Gerrard has not had that many spectacular performances for England but he IS played out of position almost every game. The stark reality is that England only have two world class players and they are Gerrard and Rooney. If team selection wasn't based on slotting these players in to a formation designed to accommodate less talented players who are not capable of playing elsewhere we may have a more realistic chance of world cup success. How about shoving Lampard on the left and see how he gets on. Secondly, can anybody tell me when Steven Gerrard lost his position as vice captain. This is the guy who was original 1st choice above Terry for the majority of neutrals. Lets not forget Terry's crimes over the years have been many. This recent witch hunt should be irrelevant. His appropriateness as figurehead of English football has been more than questionable for a long time. There is one thing that all possible captains being discussed by the media and soccer pundits have in common. Terry, (if as expected stays) Lampard, Rio, and Beckham -are ALL from London. How predictable. If the suits who control our national game ever thought more about our NATION rather than the interests and image of London we may get further in our attempts to dominate world football.
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did anyone bother to say to the weirdly made-up zoo creature earlier - (are you scottish or german, lipstick giraffe?)
the score was 4-2 to england. not 4-3. not 3-2, 2-1 or even 1-0.
4-2
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Why not have a public vote for the captaincy! Whoever gets the votes is given the armband by capello.
Then when we dont win the world cup noone(not exeter city player) can complain that reason was the wrong captain.
End of debate in my view!
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180 blog,
he must be Irish.
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65. At 11:35am on 05 Feb 2010, GazUtd wrote:
Interesting (well to me anyway) that nobody seems to like John Terry. I doubt anyone would want to have him round for tea nor trust him alone with anything in their house.
However no one cares if he lifts the World Cup. Amazing how morals go out the window where football is concerned isn't it?
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Not me Gaz... I want the A-hole out of the team all together.... I don't think England's chances will suffer for him not being there (as long as his place isn't taken by Wes Brown), Upson or King (if he can ever stay clear of injuries) can do the job just as well as far as I am concerned. As much as I want England to win, for me any victory is tarnished when some p**ck like he leads the team or is even in the team.
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178 H2,
he couldnt be bothered with a prediction for Birmingham v Wolves game.
I know the Wolves are an awfully managed club but still . . .
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spit - i dont think any self-respecting male giraffe would wear lipstick but what do i know about zoo creatures. too much like aardvark for me.
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Well spoted Spit, or as I used to say to my drooling dog well spitted Spot. (not really of course.........he wads a cat)
180 Bloggy, I just thought the guy was just a high rise window licker so decided to leave him be.
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Been a while since I last posted.
Is Bobby Moore still captain?
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180. At 1:43pm on 05 Feb 2010, blogdignag wrote:
did anyone bother to say to the weirdly made-up zoo creature earlier - (are you scottish or german, lipstick giraffe?)
the score was 4-2 to england. not 4-3. not 3-2, 2-1 or even 1-0.
4-2
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Wow you are good at history, you must be really good at morris dancing also. I was referring to Robbos comment about "the usual" decision against ingurlund when the ingurlish have received the worst ever decision in the history of football for them.
It does not matter what the score was at the time, have you never heard of momentum?
Going by your love life, I would say no.
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Do Heinz still have 57 varieties?
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RBA - you are neglecting your duties on here, these days, old son
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The reason Capello hasn't spoken about is probably because he can't believe all the fuss over this. Which is the same reason why the world's football papers are so busy mocking the English for Terry-gate and the the fake puritanism that goes with it. Let me remind you: he's a football player, not a character from Harry Potter, his private life should stay private unless he breaks the law.
In Italy they follow the simple rule that the oldest regular player in the team is the captain unless he doesn't want to. That would make David James the obvious choice (one you forgot to mention, Robbo).
I think you English attach too much importance to the role of captain. He's just the chap the picks 'head' or 'tails' when the referee flicks the coin at the beginning of the match. ALL players should be leading the team on the pitch. The current captain of the WC winning team is a shady character filmed himself injecting performance enhancing drugs for a laugh, and feigned injury for a year in order to force his club to sell him on. Nobody cared. France's captain has just scored a goal with his hand. Nobody cares. Maradona was Argentina's captain. Nobody cared. Only the English expect their captain to be some sort of saintly figure.
It's quite amusing.
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Spitfire
Is that username amended from fire to your original of roast?
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Not any Moore, Zoots.
Welcome back.
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192. At 1:56pm on 05 Feb 2010, lipstickgiraffe wrote:
Spitfire
Is that username amended from fire to your original of roast?
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being German, you of all people should understand.
Oder ist es schon zu lange her?
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185. At 1:53pm on 05 Feb 2010, blogdignag wrote:
spit - i dont think any self-respecting male giraffe would wear lipstick but what do i know about zoo creatures. too much like aardvark for me.
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Oh that's a quality joke. Turtley worth the wait.
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190. At 1:55pm on 05 Feb 2010, blogdignag wrote:
RBA - you are neglecting your duties on here, these days, old son
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Its like he has a whole different life going for him on the sides
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H2H "aphex twin as a giraffe wot a horrible thought"
that was abby clancy's first thought when she woke up this morning
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#188 Lipstickthingy - presume the decision against England from Maradona's handball doesn't qualify, wouldn't have affected momentum etc. Try to remember all incidents and not just choose one that helps your own argument.
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188 - ha ha savaged by a lipstickgiraffe!
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Sorry Blogs...
I'll pipe up a bit......
John Terry did nothing wrong, and everyone knows if you say something bad about the captain of england then you are really a communist spy and should be sent back to germania!
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Will be a good opportunity to test the mettle of JT after the week he's had, if we're lucky his head might not be in the right place.
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H2, his head is rarely in the right place allegedly.
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Girrafes have no vocal chords... no jokes with this one guys just an awesome fact!
go on in impress your freinds...
Animal facts YEAH!
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Has anyone told girafelipschtick to wind his neck in yet???
(Giraffes have long necks so this would be a funny joke to do)
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204. At 2:04pm on 05 Feb 2010, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:
Animal facts YEAH!
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Did you know: Armadillos are smooth on the inside, crunchy on the outside!
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ha ha - RBA you are a genie in an aldershottle
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When I first heard of abbey clancy (2 days ago) I for some reason pictured a building in which an irish priest would work.
Now I've seen photo's, completly different thoughts go through my mind.
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I got a dislecksick cuszin, and he represented his nation at a dislexick football tournament (The World Cap) and in the last minutes of extra time he was through on goal, struck a pearler and scored a cracker of a goal... It was then incorrectly ruled off side....
So i can tell you all Ingurland have definately suffered injustices!
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Robbo!! You forgot Gareth Barry! Already experienced as a captain, well at home in an England shirt, no skeletons (as far as I know), good leader and well behaved, first on the team sheet, and would have as many caps as anyone currently a regular in the England team.
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anyone seen the Affe around?
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"France's captain has just scored a goal with his hand"
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I think this comment shows how the repetition of a consistent message from the media can confuse the best of us. While there's no debate about Thierry Henry obviously handling the ball, he didn't score a goal with his hand, he crossed and Gallas scored.
Looking at Terry-gate in the same light, the message that seems to be repeated ad nauseum is "The England Captain should be a role model".
Now forgetting our personal opinions on this man (who I'm guessing none of us know or have even met?), how many of us actually think "The England Captain should be a role model"?
I think the England Captain should simply be the regular starter who is the least embarrassing. For my money that should be the boy Joe Cole.
Can't be Gareth Barry. It's people like him that mean Harrison Ford has to have two surnames.
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rba - thats a bizarre animal fact.
heres another, specially for ze lipschtickgiraffe - The very first bomb dropped by the Allies on Berlin in WW2 killed the only giraffe in the Berlin Zoo.
thats actually true.
also, can i just mention, during the chariot scene in "Ben Hur," a small blue austin healey car can be seen in the distance and Heston's wearing a mickey mouse watch. or was it mickey mouse was wearing a charlton heston watch in steamboat willy. cant recall.
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202. At 2:03pm on 05 Feb 2010, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:
Sorry Blogs...
I'll pipe up a bit......
John Terry did nothing wrong, and everyone knows if you say something bad about the captain of england then you are really a communist spy and should be sent back to germania!
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I should of knowm better then to bad talk Lineker in the 80's, I'm stuck her now.
But it could be worse.......
You're still stuck with him.
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Ey, now, let's leave the Thai prostitutes alone.
Some of my best friends are Thai prostitutes.
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Hitler invented the concept of the blow-up doll. Not a joke. Hitler wanted his soldiers to be able to have their needs met without getting involved with foreign women. So... he ordered plastic bodied femmes be created for them. Blonde hair, white skin, large breasts and lips, and whose, uh, stuff, would "feel absolutely real".
True that!
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As Micheal Atherton pointed out, being the England Football Captain is one of the greatest non-jobs in Europe. It's not like he is responsible for team selection or tactics or anything other then shaking hands, choosing heads or tails or arguing with the referee. Any player in the current England squad could manage these tasks without screwing up royally. Personally I wouldn't mind if John Terry kept it as he looks like a man who knows how to shake hands/ toss a coin/ shout at a referee better then anyone else in England
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That girrafe probably longed for company so the bomb could really be considered a mercy killing by the allies...
Intersting fact that about mickey mouse and the charlton heston watch, old movies and stuff are full of these historic inaccuracies, on page 94 of the bible you can see Jesus with an I-phone... Flash g!t!
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i couldn't really give a Phil McNulty who captains England, and i'm sure this has been pointed out before, but Terry is and always has been as bad as they come in terms of bratty, petulant, abusive behaviour on the pitch.
all this sordid adultery business aside, he's NEVER conducted himself with the decorum we would expect...well... at least want from a national captain.
but i suppose because he's apparently a "hard man" (yeah, i said it;) and a center-half he's right for the job? so you're telling me the captain of England gets the gig by default?
roll over, Sir Busby.
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Terry should go on some gardening leave until all the dust settles. Or better, play a charity Pro-Am golf tournament. Tiger and Terry would be an interesting partnership and guaranteed to make a lot of birdies !!
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220. At 2:22pm on 05 Feb 2010, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:
That girrafe probably longed for company so the bomb could really be considered a mercy killing by the allies...
Intersting fact that about mickey mouse and the charlton heston watch, old movies and stuff are full of these historic inaccuracies, on page 94 of the bible you can see Jesus with an I-phone... Flash g!t!
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And Moses really did receive 10 iPads and not, as falsely believed, Tablets.
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i found an original copy of the very first bible in my attic, rba
which was nice
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218 Spit,
His plan backfired when he found out all the dolls were made in Taiwan.
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Robbo, thanks for daring to dream that an Englishman might actually be asked to step up and lift the trophy in South Africa. 44 years of hurt had placed a mental wall between England merely competing and the events that might transpire on the day of the final.
So now that you have painted that cheery little picture, I am forced to imagine this loathsome character lifting the thing, and worse still his image forever burned in the annals of English history alongside the famous picture of Bobby Moore on the shoulders of the 66 team, with the Jules Rimet gleaming, in his worthy hands.
Before now I was happy to indulge Terry as captain, in the belief that he was doing a good job in the role on the field, while seemingly reveling in great form. The concern being that other players may find the weight of responsibility impacts their play. It happens all too often. But the risk is too great. Relieve him of his duties. Say thanks, but lets take you out of the spotlight JT (though Capello will probably resist using his nickname), and give the thing to Lampard.
Terry can continue to shout and rant and organise, but Lamps get to say "heads!" and pick up the prize.
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183. At 1:47pm on 05 Feb 2010, BojanglesOfOz wrote:
65. At 11:35am on 05 Feb 2010, GazUtd wrote:
Interesting (well to me anyway) that nobody seems to like John Terry. I doubt anyone would want to have him round for tea nor trust him alone with anything in their house.
However no one cares if he lifts the World Cup. Amazing how morals go out the window where football is concerned isn't it?
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Not me Gaz... I want the A-hole out of the team all together.... I don't think England's chances will suffer for him not being there (as long as his place isn't taken by Wes Brown), Upson or King (if he can ever stay clear of injuries) can do the job just as well as far as I am concerned. As much as I want England to win, for me any victory is tarnished when some p**ck like he leads the team or is even in the team.
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Bo I am respecting you more every day.
As soon as you realise that Arsene is the world's biggest brainwasher then I'll buy you that pint that Denis was going to get.
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AT 199:
Perfectly said. Even the fact that he has left the decision down to Capello as opposed to just giving up the captaincy, shows how much of a horrible personality this guy has. Leaving the difficult decisions to somebody else - proclaim that he will fight for the captaincy, allowing the pressure to be taken off his shoulders.
He's somebody who's only attribute i've ever liked is his determination. Now I can't stand the man and he deserves every boo he receives at every football match for the rest of his career.
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spit as the blow up teacher said to the blow up hitler who had brought a pin into the blow up school
youve let me down youve let the school down but most of all youve let your blow up doll self down
maybe it was a blow up giraffe which got hit in berlin zoo. a whole zoo of blow up creatures to trick the enemy
how about a blow up england captain with a string (literally, thyre filled with helium) of blow up WAGS?
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i may be biased but gerrard all the way. cant be bothered to list my reasons. you all know im right.
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Lawro has tipped us to win?
I was quietly confident right up until I read that.
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Robbo - we understand the temptation - but it was his team-mate's ex, father of his child to boot. That's the reason its out of order. Pure and simple. I think Rio's a decent shout for captain myself. Lampard can't be captain while his club captain is there (presuming he stays club captain that is). James is a possible as well. He has been captain in the past and is pretty vocal.
Rooney may be too young but I wouldn't rule him out in a year or two.
Also after his miss in the Champs League do you really see Terry taking a penalty? At least in the first 5?
Nothing about the Portsmouth manager?
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The points in the article are well made, but quite a few of us have made precisely the same ones over the past few days. The most obvious is if not Terry, then who exactly? There simply isn't anyone else at this stage in time. The only practical solution, and I can't even believe I'm suggesting this, is Beckham. Terry would still have the leadership in the dressing room and on the pitch (as he did before) while Becks could take care of all of the media mania. We've already covered why the other alternatives just wouldn't be effective at this time. In any other European country, this wouldn't even be an issue, and no, it's not because we're so terribly ethical. It's almost amusing how much of a fuss has been made over what amounts to little more than a thoroughly acceptable mistake: just look at the woman, and then try to bear Wayne Bridge while his mouth's open. As I've said before, if Bridgey couldn't get the job done, then Terry had an obligation to step in and take care of business. It's that simple.
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This issue is not a moralistic judgement about extra matrital affairs it is about the appropriateness of JT as England captain. Neutrals never wanted him, Gerrard was the choice of the people. Whether fans still think this or want someone else JT should not be and should never have been England captain. It would be great to have someone who is not from London so we can at least pretend that the national squad is representative of the country rather than the egos of those from the Capital. Make Milner captain and play him on a regular basis. Although I still think Gerrard seems to have lost the vice captain role for no good reason. Play Rooney and Gerrard in their true positions. Shove Lampard on the left and drop him when he proves rubbish. We need to play our only two world class players (Rooney and Gerrard)in position and slot others in around them.
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I really really really need email addresses, I have just recieved the greatest email in the history of the world!
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dont forget Bushy Beavers!
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Just post it and we can all copy it really really quickly.
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#235 Stick it on Gaz - we'll get it before the moderators do or does it have an image?
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#233 - that is utter cowpat - JT Is married and shouldn't be sleeping with other women.
He is an immoral thug who should not have teh honour of captaining England
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Gerrard, Stevie Me, the DJ destroyer as captain?
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I have to email it, its made up of several images and text :(
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Little known fact that all of madern day germany and a vast majority of western and eastern europe is all merely a blow up replica to trick the allied forces in to thinking that we won the war... Hitlers there with his mates having a right old giggle at us... Yep the reality we all know is just an inflatable falacy, a load of ald hot air if you will... Think the matrix but instead or robot overlords with digital opression its a cheeky bunch of gerrys with a footpump and too much latex...
Crafty Swines!
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UD,
In fairness the DJ does look like an utter knobh€ad.
And again, Gerrard was acquitted in a public court, whether you like it or not.
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I guess thats why its called madern day...
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The really insidious thing about the whole Terry affair is simply the hypocrisy involved on behalf of the football 'community'.
The grave crime, it appears, is NOT that Terry allegedly did what he did, but that he did it (allegedly) with a team mate's partner/wife.
The obvious insinuation being that, if this had happened with, say a plumber's wife or some poor bloke who works in tesco - then everything would be ok.
I am not English, so maybe my opinion doesn't count on this, but if Terry is persona non grata, then maybe so should half the footballers in the premiership who seem to conduct themselves with all the dignity and intelligence of a dog on heat.
But hey, why bother. Hypocrisy seems to be the way of it these days in all areas of public life.
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232. At 2:30pm on 05 Feb 2010, United Dreamer wrote:
Robbo - we understand the temptation - but it was his team-mate's ex, father of his child to boot. That's the reason its out of order. Pure and simple. I think Rio's a decent shout for captain myself. Lampard can't be captain while his club captain is there (presuming he stays club captain that is). James is a possible as well. He has been captain in the past and is pretty vocal.
Rooney may be too young but I wouldn't rule him out in a year or two.
Also after his miss in the Champs League do you really see Terry taking a penalty? At least in the first 5?
Nothing about the Portsmouth manager?
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Yes I know Terry's behaviour, if proven, has been terrible. The point of the blog is that none of them have spotless characters sowhere do you draw the line? I think if it gets passed on then Lampard, who has been in better form than Gerrard - and is fit - looks like the best bet but I think Capello has already marked Rooney's card and he'll be the next one.
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Gaz,
Upload the images to Imageshack or something and include the links in the text.
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Fight the power.
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rba - ha ha ho ho
239. At 2:34pm on 05 Feb 2010, adampsb wrote:
#233 - that is utter cowpat - JT Is married and shouldn't be sleeping with other women.
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that's rather presumptious about the nature of his relationship with his wife, adam. maybe she like to watch?
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225. At 2:25pm on 05 Feb 2010, Holloway2Holland wrote:
218 Spit,
His plan backfired when he found out all the dolls were made in Taiwan.
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Being the staunch nationalist as he was, this made him absolutely suicidal
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BTP I'm trying to sort it.
But trust me, you won't like it :)
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249 Blog - has his wife said anything or has she been quiet?? Perhaps Max Clifford should get her to sell her story as well.
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It must be anti-LFC then.
If it's funny, I'll like it.
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#249 - blog judging by her reaction I would think watching jT have sex with other women is not on her list of things to do
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Still think the Captain's only requirement, other than not to be a total pr*ck, needs to play each game. Has to be Barry.
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I would understand completely if Gerrard or Beckham were chosen as captain of the team by Capello.
He is SO fine in his judgements...he knows who has leadership abilities and who has been proven (Gerrard from three goals down to bringing the Euro home to Liverpool) lest we forget....when he scored that first goal and raised his fists in the air urging the players on....I rest my case.
Beckham has worked his ass off to play for England and it would be a wonderful gesture - he would not let us down.
The world is watching.... and Terry is arrogant NOT to at least make the gesture NOW of stepping down from the captaincy....but that means showing some class.
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CFC - ~62 is still referre but not removed - will we see an umpire overturn the mods
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Adam, what was her reaction, VIZ haven't parodied this yet so i am not really clear on all the facts?
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#254 - lets be honest here - hes no oil painting. Strictly lights out I assume but then Im not a woman.
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She packed up and went off to Dubai with their kids on the JT credit card and is moping around th beaches there
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Is anyone genuinely shocked that a footballer is a classless mug? If you are i have this brilliant oppirtunity for you with the nigerian lottery???
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Robbo - I think you are right about Rooney. I think its a little too early but it might be the making of the man. Or the breaking. Lets just hope he doesn't take too literally Terry as the role model.
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257. At 2:42pm on 05 Feb 2010, dodiesmith wrote:
Gerrard from three goals down to bringing the Euro home to Liverpool) lest we forget....when he scored that first goal and raised his fists in the air
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He's done it since as well,luckily the jury of season ticket holders let him off...
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:) Jacks - get in there.
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All this JT nonsense is taking light away from the real news stories happening around the world, stories or proper importance and the BBC contributing with this "blog" is, quite frankly, an outrage... Barely a word has been mentioned about Jordans wedding?
For shame BBC, call your selves a real journo-tainment provider?
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Sad reflection on English football when Beckham is the only vaguely respectable candidate.
Capello could appoint him "Tour Captain" and have him deal with the media circus, then appoint a captain for each game, on the field if Beckham does not play.
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Spit, RBA, Blogidy.
Did hitler only have blow up dolls, soldiers and Wendy houses or did he have blow up grenades/bombs too?
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IM BORED OF ALL THIS SHOULD HE BE CAPTAIN SHOULDNT HE BE CAPTAIN RUBBISH NOW. THE ENGLAND CAPTAIN IS TOO MUCH OF AN ISSUE. I THINK IT SHOULD BE JUST GIVEN TO WHICH EVER PLAYER HAS THE MOST CAPS WHEN THE GAME IS PLAYED. SIMPLE.
SAVES ALL THE ARGUMENTS, AND REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOUR TEAM MATE HAS NORPED YOUR MISSUS OR NOT! YOU HAVE THE MOST CAPS, SO THERES THE ARM BAND.
PROBLEM SOLVED
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It cannot be Beckham unless he is guaranteed a place in starting line-up, though he could do all press related stuff as long they don't ask hard questions.
With that in mind, as Capello always generally picks Barry he has to be the only option.
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270, Ouch, I've got a ringing in my ears now.
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I'm looking forward to young Wayne's appearance in court in the next week or so, regarding his agent's claim for unpaid monies.
"Mr Rooney, your involvement with the sports agency in question ended when your current agent parted company with said agency. For what reasons, if any, do you consider your agent's request for unpaid monies following his departure from the agency to be valid?"
"I love lamp."
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The whole captaincy issue is being blown out of proportion.
As a player, JT is a natural born leader who leads by example. JT is not the first leader that has done something immoral off the field nor will he be the last. On the field he is more of a captain than any of the other players mentioned in here because he consistently delivers.
Based on on-field performance and abilities alone, JT is fit to captain England, more so than any other player in England, Lampard maybe coming in second mainly because of his consistency in form at age 31. The bigger question that no one is asking is whether Wayne Bridge would be OK with having Terry as his captain??? As captain, Terry's job is to organize the defence and it goes without saying that he has to bark orders occasionally at some of his players particularly Wayne Bridge who plays left back next to JT. Will Wayne Bridge take this?
Both players need to get together and talk it out as men and not as football players. JT needs to apologize to WB if he did in fact committ those transgressions, and then he needs to apologize to the england squad that way everybody can move on. At the end of the day, these guys are people before being players, and time will heal all wounds. Only after they've moved on that the rest of the team can move on and focus on the beautiful game.
Go Chelsea!!
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"Go Chelsea!!"
I was genuinely shocked to see that at the end.
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Wait for it....
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274. At 2:56pm on 05 Feb 2010, africanfootballer wrote:
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You made some decent points and then go and completly discredit them all by ending with the words "Go Chelsea!!"
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Me too BTP, up until that point I couldn't quite put my finger on which team he might support.
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Bite Me!!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-buTdfH-o-w
Quality not superb but best I could do in the short time. I'm not sure how many of them JT has spent time with.
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"As captain, Terry's job is to organize the defence"
Isn't it also to sell trips around the training ground?
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Let's see what we have got here,
A captain is a leader with influence on the pitch over the other players, he should lead by example. I doubt if any england players have any respect for their Terry after what he has done to not only a team mate...but a friend.
Let's not forget his antics all those years ago in the bowling alley post 911, 9 years on we can see that he has failed to prove himself as a reformed character.
A man who deservedly led our country was David Beckham. Yes his episode at France 98 highlighted the immaturity of the man at that age, but his metoric rise, ability to win over every critic as well as single handedly carrying us through THAT 2002 world cup qualifier against Greece displayed somebody who had been there, made the mistakes, but bounced back and was able to provide an excellent example to others. Yes there was an alledged issue with Rebecca Loos...but I think as the media spotlight hit her, we identified that she has no integrity or honesty whatsoever.
Rooney, has yet to prove hinmself in a beckham type way, his granny incident and sendings off ensure this...his stage for character resurrection could take place this summer.
Until then, we need a leader, someone to set an example and someone to make the spoilt, pampered england stars within the squad realise who and what they are representing and how lucky they really are.
One person who does not rub his celebrity in anyones face and has always been an example...and a captain to his team is Gareth Barry. He is an automatic starter under Capello. I'd like to know what skeletons are in his closet...apart from the fact he upset Villa fans by moving to Manchester City. Versatile, confident, committed and always gives 100%. Appears to have all the attributes to me. You can guarentee that come a penalty shootout he will not be shy in stepping forward and putting the ball home.
Also...I would rate Upson as good as Terry in terms of ability, would Terry be so highly thought of had his Club not been bought by a billionaire owner and having been partnered by the far superior William Gallas during the early days and the truly world class Carvalho throughout? Let's not forget that Terry only became a regular for england in the absence of Rio in 2004, and looked shaky throughout that tournament. In 2006 he along with the entire squad performed abysmally throughout with the exception of Owen Hargreaves. What exactly has he achieve on the elite international footballing scene. Nothing. Zilch. Even for his club in Europe he missed a decisive penalty in a Final and a couple of years earlier the "British brute Bulldog,Mr Brave" himself was bounced away and embarrased by Ronaldinho
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If Woodgate, King, and Curtis Davies had been fit and on form all season I wouldn't even have Terry in the WC Squad. They are all more talented than our 'erstwhile' captain.
Nothing to do with morality.
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"Let's not forget his antics all those years ago in the bowling alley post 911"
Now now, he was only having a quiet drink with his chums.
MrBlueBurns said so.
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280.
Ha ha Gaz, thanx for sharing.
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That was a mouthful tomefccam!
VP said something similar to JT.
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On my way home from work i'm now going to hide behind a bush and when some walks past i'm gonna jump out and shout GO CHELSEA!
As BTP said, that is a genuinley shocking thing just to through in at the end, i almost jumped out my seat...
I also plan to film this, post on the intynets, it will become a global phenononme... sensation, and people all over the owrld will be jumping out and shouting GO CHELSEA! at strangers...Its basically the new wazzuuuup for the USB generation, or what ever generation we are now...
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Seen it before, but still funny :)
Reminds me of an old Viz Top Tip;
Plain women - increase your attractiveness by simply moving North.
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282. At 3:02pm on 05 Feb 2010, tomefccam wrote:
"Yes there was an alledged issue with Rebecca Loos...but I think as the media spotlight hit her, we identified that she has no integrity or honesty whatsoever."
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She wasn't the one that was married with children mate. (Insert Al Bundy joke)
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adampsb
Come on, Adam, which one of the alternatives isn't an immoral thug? And at least Terry is honourable on the pitch when captaining England. The point about him being married and so 'shouldn't be sleeping with other women' isn't really relevant in this context. I'm sorry, but I agree with Robbo when considering the motives of most of the women who are married to our top footballers. The rules of engagement simply aren't the same, and fidelity is often measured by degrees of compensation rather than love. If you're ever in the clubs where these 'immoral thugs' unwind you'll understand well enough, and as for their lesser halves, well, many end up doing one thing or another in the private rooms before the evening's out while their husbands remain stunned and stupid somewhere else. I say this as an observed fact. On either side of this absurd equation, most simply prefer to remain oblivious. In this case we have a cuckhold who hadn't the courage to face Terry man to man; his associates did the rest. And now look at the silliness that's been caused. Personally, I beleive the only moral failing in this alleged indiscretion is the utter hypocrisy shown by those who should be viewing the whole a little less personally or not at all. Unfortunately, for any man whose love has stepped out at some point in his life, that's simply impossible. And that's the issue here. I'm sorry to offend your delicate sensibilities on this issue as I appreciate the contributions you make, but many of us are not so secretly saying 'Well done, John!' and hoping it rests there when all the dust clears. We don't need Bridge, but we do need John Terry. I'm hoping Capello sees things the same way.
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I own a ten million pound mansion, hot Vegas poledancers gob me off every night and tomorrow I will be testing the new Mercedes F1 car because I'm better than Schumacher.
Go Chelsea!
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287 RBA,
somebody beat you to it. There is already a short film on youtube (other video hosting websites are there) by the title "Go Chelsea". Has marked similarities to the above post and the club culture.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4afzaIfKEs
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Shouldn't it be
идти Chelsea!
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291,
Go Chelsea!
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Take away Terry's captaincy, and there will be a media circus in SA every time he is on the ball or on the camera. Let him retain his captaincy, and there will be a media circus in SA every time he is on the ball or on the camera.
There are only 2 ways to resolve this 'problem': 1. Don't take Terry to SA (which would result in disaster). 2. Take him to SA and let him keep the armband because, whether he is captain or not, he has inadvertently created a media circus.
Isn't it a pity that our World Cup is always laced with 'stories' and not football? Last time round it was 'Theo got a vacation hahaha' and Wazza stomped on so-and-so's what are they called, etc. To my mind, the best course of action would have been for Terry immediately to have resigned his captaincy. That would have subdued the media circus.
I'm an Arsenal supporter, and even I'd prefer Rooney as captain. Imagine that you are, say, in the England squad but do not know Terry well. Would you trust him? He is emotionally frail on top of any other shortcomings he may or may not have. Cf. crying after he shanked his penalty in Moscow.
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291 Cowslepe.
Aren't Chelsea the FA cuckholders?
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H2H you beat me to it, clever lad.
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214.
blogdignag
heres another, specially for ze lipschtickgiraffe - The very first bomb dropped by the Allies on Berlin in WW2 killed the only giraffe in the Berlin Zoo.
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You're wide of the mark mate, lipstick is undoubtably Scottish, they're the only ones who consistently whinge about '66.
In my experience the Germans have always been gracious about that result and accept the fact that we won by two goals as justification.
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And that giraffe recovered and emerged to be Jens Lehmann.
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273. At 2:55pm on 05 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:
I'm looking forward to young Wayne's appearance in court in the next week or so, regarding his agent's claim for unpaid monies.
"Mr Rooney, your involvement with the sports agency in question ended when your current agent parted company with said agency. For what reasons, if any, do you consider your agent's request for unpaid monies following his departure from the agency to be valid?"
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Proactive though are no longer their agents as they excercised their right to change companies and gave notice to do so when Paul Stretford left. It happens all the time agents leave their agencies and take clients with them after a short restriction period.
I would think that PSM will lose this one as the Rooney's have the right to choose who they will be represented by
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He should be stripped off the captaincy. The lack of a suitable replacement shouldnt be allowed to fudge the issue.
I couldnt believe Jason Cundy on talksport this week ( another Chelsea W**ker surprise surprise!) actually saying that it doesnt matter a jot what goes on off the pitch, Terry should only be judged on his on field antics!
He also claimed that footballers arent rolemodels! Okay they might not choose to be but the fact is the guys at the top of their profession are role models whether they like it or not.
Terry is Englands figurehead, the man rolled out for interviews,the man expected to command respect. A ROLE MODEL for all young lads playing the game.
Now i dont expect him to be whiter than white but i would expect him to use a little discretion and avoid making headlines for all the wrong reasons.
Bridges ex isnt the first and probably wont be the last. How Toni has put up with it for so long beggars belief (brings to mind the question asked of Debbie McGee - "So what first attracted you to the millionaire Paul Daniels"!)
But its not only the above its his continued links to dodgy deals culminating in new headlines today.
The fact he buries his head in the sand and refuses to comment on anything at all only makes things worse.
Who would i have as skipper? Tough tough choice. If it could be guaranteed that it wouldnt affect his game then Rooney is the obvious choice. He commands respect from all his peers now and comes across relatively well in interviews compared to how he fared back in 2004.
The only other choice is Lampard but hes one of Terrys best mates so would probably feel mightily uncomfortable taking it.
But one thing is for certain Terry should not be in possession.
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SSN saying JT dropped as capitan
150. At 1:08pm on 05 Feb 2010, JacksfromBuxton wrote:
Has this not been done to death by now?Can we move on.Gunners,how do you fancy your chances Sunday?Un**ed fans,is it good news Hargreaves may be fit soon..http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8497856.stm..
Biggest of all,are Robbo and FBH ready to cope with the hiding they will hand out on Saturday to my lot...
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Jack - I was about to add that I think you are setting me up for a big fall - anyway may the best team win as long as ....
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adam,
Not really my point - I tend to agree with you on your point, though.
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I'm going with the trend here, Terry is a bad captain anyway, and the fact he can't (alledgedly) keep it in his pants adds to it...
Barry for captain all day long, Beckham won't start, although I agree that as Gerrard is vice captain surely it must be him?
Or pick Crouch, he's always facing his own goal anyway... (should always start though)
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231. At 2:29pm on 05 Feb 2010, Spurs59er wrote:
Lawro has tipped us to win?
I was quietly confident right up until I read that.
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The Curse of Lawro got us last week at Birmingham, I'm hoping it's turned its steely gaze to tougher opponents, like the Man U - Portsmouth result.
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Just read the comments again and have to say Gareth Barry is a very good shout.
Now Hargo looks like a definite miss this summer Barry is a surefire starter.
Id forgotten all about the lad. Good choice.
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125. At 12:33pm on 05 Feb 2010, kanchelskis_legend wrote:
Oh that's clever, I see what you've done there. You've replaced two of the letters of "United" with asterisks, as if you imply that the word "United" is an expletive, because you don't like Manchester United. Haha. Oh, how very droll.
It's a good thing you forced that witticism into your post three times as well, because it's so very subtle that I didn't quite get it the first and second times I read it.
You bewildered individual.
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As we've previously established on Robbo's blog every time someone writes the word Un**ed in full a fairy dies.
And my self imposed curse from earlier has been lifted due to Pulpgrape getting an earlier post modded.
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I'm hearing that John Terry has lost the captain's armband...
but it might be ok. The FA are ringing Wayne Bridge and asking him to check under the bed.
Made me smile anyway - hope the mods have a sense of humour :)
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224. At 2:24pm on 05 Feb 2010, blogdignag wrote:
i found an original copy
Blog - was it an original or a copy
Go Chelsea!!!! (lmao)
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@311 That's like when products are "new and improved". How can they be? They are either new or they're old and improved.
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308,
Go Chelsea!
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310: Heard a better one, about a centre-half covering the space left by a full-back, but figure the mods nay not like that too much...
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Go for it city-boy. The mods on here are pussycats. They love a good joke on here
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Well if you replace the word space with hole and cover with fill-in you'll get the gist...
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The meeting between FC and JT lasted 12mins - thats a good sign.
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Is that longer than the instance that caused all this?!?!
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@317 The ALLEGED meetings between JT and Vanessa Peroncell lasted 2 hours each time. I bet I know which meetings JT had more fun at.
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City boy - us northern types and as clever as you movers and shakers (buy high sell low) - you lost me :)
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318: It didn't last long. He lost his footing, a ball went wide, the target was missed, there was a lack of concentration, and then tears ensued. In Moscow.
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FBH - use the instructions in post 316 for the words in post 314
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i think it was an original, fbh, it had "go chelsea" written in aramaic on the inside cover
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I bet he cried afterwards.
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Terry should not be captain, and here is why:
P. For Petulant: petulant when he does not get his way.
E. For Enough: enough of a media circus already.
N. For New: we need new leadership.
I. For Idolatry: children should not idolise an adulterer.
S. Status: status should reflect discipline.
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325, i said "pennies for your thoughts" not.... oh never mind!
GO CHELSEA!
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"Sky News sources understands John Terry has been stripped of the England captaincy following allegations over his private life.
Terry's future as skipper of his country has been the subject of intense speculation ever since allegations he had an affair with England team-mate Wayne Bridge's ex-girlfriend.
The Chelsea star met with England coach Fabio Capello at Wembley on Friday afternoon to discuss his future as captain in the wake of the allegations.
The Football Association made it clear Capello alone will decide the Terry's fate and the Italian has decided to take the armband off the 29-year-old.
The news throws England's plans for the World Cup into disarray with Capello now forced to look for a new captain for this summer's tournament in South Africa.
More to follow..."
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_5920189,00.html
Go Chelsea!
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RBA.
CC ROTW is up.
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Jesus was really just an inflatable false prophet (is that like bad debt?) created by the devil to make us think that our souls had been saved, when really the second coming happened in Swindon 400 years ago, no one noticed....
Not being funny, but hte hissing from the cross was a dead give away!
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Go Arsenal. Kieran Gibbs will recover in May and become captain.
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Terry should lose the captaincy?! What hypocritical, holier-than-though bow-locks.
I expect that the 'outrage' of certain contributors here might well be down to the fact that they're probably not attractive enough to pull a bird themselves. (The fact that we're here at all is kind of a giveaway.)
IF Terry was screwing around... SO WHAT? It's between him and his missus. (It was Bridge's EX, so it's none of Bridge's business either - and even if it were, Clapton and Harrison managed to get over it.)
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329 Ha ha.
Yes indeed RBA, false prophet is Chelsea´s annual bottom line.
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I think the key issue is what impact stripping him of/leaving the captaincy with Terry will impact the rest of the squad.
The media furore will die down in a matter of weeks and the incident should largely be forgotten about by the World Cup much like Henrys handball.
One would have to assume that whether captain or not, Terry is likely to be starting. With this in mind Capello needs to carefully judge whether stripping him of the captaincy is likely to cause him to lose form or lose confidence. He also has to judge whether keeping him as captain is likely to be an issue with other players and if having Bridge and Terry in the camp together is likely to be divisive.
Essentially morals are the last thing thats going to be behind the judgement as Id expect a fully pragmatic approach from Capello.
My own view is that Terry should have made the decision himself and resigned the captaincy. I think this would allow the incident to blow over and indicate a degree of acceptance that his behaviour was out of line and not befitting of a captain. If he is "strppied" of the captaincy its more likely to have a divisive impact on the squad then if he voluntarily ave it up and at the end of the day its about the team and not individuals. Whilst there is varying opinions about the degree of difference a captain actually makes, I dont think its a good advertisement to have a team captain who is in Terrys situation. You are something of a figurehead and supposed to be of good character. Whatever about off field/on field matters being different - with captain of the country they will alwas be linked to a degree.
By the time the World Cup comes around presumably Katie Price will have had another divorce and the tabloids (and Robbo) will have new sources of interest.
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News sources at 19:00 are saying the following (I went into the future to have a look)...
FIFA has decided to make John Terry captain of the world.
In unrelated news Sepp Blatter will be moving into his new $1 billion mansion on Monday morning just as soon as Roman gives him the keys.
Allegedly.
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DAMMIT!!!
After Joe again.
But what's this? No critique of the blog? Is that a pig I see flying outside my window?
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331, that is certainly my reason for outrage! grrrrrrrrr... I have face that can cut glass, i was a pimply kid, i fell asleep in the library once, i woke up a blind kid was reading my face... My mum and dad fed me with a slingshot...
I dont get no respect, go chelsea...
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331. At 3:53pm on 05 Feb 2010, davideisaura wrote:
IF Terry was screwing around... SO WHAT? It's between him and his missus. (It was Bridge's EX, so it's none of Bridge's business either - and even if it were, Clapton and Harrison managed to get over it.)
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CLAPTON FOR CAPTAIN!
*clap clap clap clap clap*
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277. At 2:59pm on 05 Feb 2010, Holloway2Holland wrote:
274. At 2:56pm on 05 Feb 2010, africanfootballer wrote:
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You made some decent points and then go and completly discredit them all by ending with the words "Go Chelsea!!"
Up to that point you were siding with my impartial and unbiased argument but as soon as I say something that you don't want to hear then oh my argument doesn't hold weight anymore???
I'm not a Chelsea supporter because of John Terry but because of all African players who have played for and continue to play for Chelsea.It's unfortunate if some of you feel that my argument is all of a sudden discredited because I support Chelsea. I support any manager who appreciates and employs African talent a la Mourinho, Wenger and Ancelotti.
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325. hahaha!! well said! i agree, and heres why
W. for Wet, you only have to listen to the bloke
A. for Angry, which capello must be
N. for Naughty, speaks for itsself
K. for Keeper, give it to the keeper to save the aggro
E. for Everything, everything about John Terry is a bit suspect
R.est my case
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Thanks CFC...
So it's offical then (or is it alledged he's lost the armband!?)
He'll anounce Gerrard as captain (despite the fact he shouldn't play) and Rooney as vice (which i hear he's a fan of...)
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338. At 3:57pm on 05 Feb 2010, africanfootballer wrote
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As an Arsenal supporter I still agree with some of your previous comments, but by chosing to add the words "Go Chelsea!!", you make yourself look bias and impartial.
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"It's unfortunate if some of you feel that my argument is all of a sudden discredited because I support Chelsea"
Even if you were arguing for evolution or to be nice to old people it would automatically be discredited by your support of Chelsea
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Quote from Sky News about Terry possibly losing the captaincy...."It comes as the woman who the Chelsea skipper reportedly had a relationship with has decided not to sell her story.Underwear model Vanessa Perroncel was believed to have been offered up to £250,000 by various media organisations to give her view".
Am I allowed to speculate as to whether she might have received a payment to keep her mouth shut?
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There is only one possible replacement for me but he has to get fit first. Its Roy of the Rovers...actually no but quite close its Jimmy Bullard. If he is fit he should play and he would inject more passion into our performance (not a JT joke there) than any other candidate.
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Isnt JT a bit like a dodgy MP if he has been abusing his (wembley) box.
Anyway Cap has done the job. Im bored with JT.
Go Boro!!! (Still lmao)
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"Am I allowed to speculate as to whether she might have received a payment to keep her mouth shut?"
You can speculate that. Just don't whatever you do speculate that she recieved a payment to open her mouth.
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I'm a QPR fan and hate John Terry as much as the next person. But to lose the captaincy for cheating on your missus is ridiculous. None of them are going to want the armband now are they!? We'll probably have to make Gary Neville captain, he's the only one you can guarantee nobody's missus would go near.
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#331 IF Terry was screwing around... SO WHAT? It's between him and his missus. (It was Bridge's EX, so it's none of Bridge's business either - and even if it were, Clapton and Harrison managed to get over it.)
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The point is she wasn't Bridge's ex at the time JT was allegedly screwing her.
Wonder exactly what the contract Max Clifford has was - maybe a JT will pay this much if you keep quiet contract
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#338
So it's not actually a Chelsea bias but a straight down the line African bias then? Well, that clears things up. Go an entire continent!
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#347 - Obviously JT has been backing by GNev for England campaign then
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Terry's been playing away, "face, bovvered" lets get on with it please. Try and find a squeeky clean footballer to take on the arm band before South Africa, could be difficult.
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281. At 3:02pm on 05 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:
"As captain, Terry's job is to organize the defence"
Isn't it also to sell trips around the training ground?
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I can't help you if you're a hater with no substance!! Your take on the subject will not determine whether he retains the armband or not and neither will mine so get a life my friend!!
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Is it wrong that I am reading all the comments by africanfootballer in a Nigerian accent?
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It must be right, even BBC Sport understands John Terry has been stripped of his captaincy.
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Must admit I'm surprised but Capello is a pragmatist. Dropping Terry takes the heat off him and one of his most important players. He was never totally convinced by Terry as captain or he'd have given it him straight away when he took over. And he knows that more stuff will come out that could disrupt preparations. It's a sensible move.
Not sure how Bridge comes back but at least now there's a chance he could return with his head held high, with Terry publicly reprimanded.
As for new skipper, I'd go with Lampard - which is odd because I'd have picked Gerrard two years ago. I'd be happy with Rooney but Frank is the nearest thing we have to a literate, thinking human being. But I reckon he'll go for Ferdinand. I'm happy with him, Gerrard or Rooney to be honest. Anyone is better than Terry.
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353. At 4:16pm on 05 Feb 2010, africanfootballer wrote:
281. At 3:02pm on 05 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:
"As captain, Terry's job is to organize the defence"
Isn't it also to sell trips around the training ground?
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I can't help you if you're a hater with no substance!! Your take on the subject will not determine whether he retains the armband or not and neither will mine so get a life my friend!!
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Selling trips around the training ground wasn't actually part of his job BTP but that's the kind of guy Terry is. He doesn't mind going the extra mile to raise funds. He does a lot of good work for charity does Mr Terry.
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#348. At 4:09pm on 05 Feb 2010, adampsb wrote:
The point is she wasn't Bridge's ex at the time JT was allegedly screwing her.
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I think you're wrong there, mate. When Bridge signed for City in January 2009, his girlfriend decided not to move north with him, so the relationship was already well over before they 'officially' separated in December (which itself was well before this story came along). But in any case, it's still no one else's business.
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Well that´s one less item of clothing he´ll need to remove,
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/8495604.stm
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Rio it is
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Indications are that Rio Ferdinand will be new captain.
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355. At 4:20pm on 05 Feb 2010, redpreacherman wrote:
It must be right, even BBC Sport understands John Terry has been stripped of his captaincy.
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Ahh but Preach you know as well as all of us that just because the BBC reports it doesn't mean we can talk about it using the exact same words and allegations.
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Its official apparently, Ferdinand the cheeky chappy is captain lol!!!
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Never liked John Terry. Always comes across as a bit dodgy - maybe its the weird squinty eyes. Anyway, he should have spared Capello the bother of sacking him as captain and resigned, but like the club he plays for - NO CLASS.
Go Chelsea - far far far away please.
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As long as he remembers to turn up,it doesn't really matter.He should be ok for deciding which way to kick before the game,as apparently he's a really good...
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358. At 4:25pm on 05 Feb 2010, davideisaura wrote:
#348. At 4:09pm on 05 Feb 2010, adampsb wrote:
The point is she wasn't Bridge's ex at the time JT was allegedly screwing her.
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I think you're wrong there, mate. When Bridge signed for City in January 2009, his girlfriend decided not to move north with him, so the relationship was already well over before they 'officially' separated in December (which itself was well before this story came along). But in any case, it's still no one else's business.
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There must have been something going on between her & JT before she split with Bridge for it to generate this level of furore - maybe that is why Bridge left the Bridge for Eastlands in the first place
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As John Inverdale said on 5 Live Capello was in a no win situation with potential more revelations to come this weekend. If Terry was kept on as captain and the tabloids news forced him to sack Terry, Capello would look silly and his authority dominished. So he had to go.
What the FA should do is reinvent what the England captaincy really means. Most other countries do not put the position on a pedestal like we do. At the end of the day he is just one of eleven players.
When in Italy his club captain was the player with most international caps, so in effect the role alternated. I think a shared captaincy is the way forward, as choosing one man may cause tension in a squad that is already disunited between Team Terry and Team Bridge. Capello should also try and speak with all of his senior players asap to get their views on Terry. He could easily get most of the squad together on one of the FA Cup weekends.
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Bring back Terry Butcher......
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368. At 4:34pm on 05 Feb 2010, excellentcatblogger wrote:
Capello should also try and speak with all of his senior players asap to get their views on Terry. He could easily get most of the squad together on one of the FA Cup weekends.
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The Chelsea players might be busy but the Man Utd and Liverpool players would be able to make it.
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Can I be the first to turn this into a United v Chelsea v Pool debacle!
Obviously Rio got the captaincy because he is United which meant that Terry lost it and Stevie Me wasn't in with a chance.
It's a conspiracy I tells ya!
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I knew it! That Damned United!
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I think it's more a north-south debacle. Obviously the captain has to be from London. You can't have a northern monkey doing the job.
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372. At 4:41pm on 05 Feb 2010, Evil-Weazel wrote:
I knew it! That Damned United!
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The other one.
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Maybe its racism?
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Obviously, Capello has established that to be the captain, a player must be born in the capital.
He is a wise old crook I tell ya.
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Hey!
It's inmportant to remember the bit inbetween the North and South, appropriately called the Midlands...
No relevance really, I just can't let it get ignored!
You're right FedUp, should have resigned but no chance from a Chelsea man
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373. At 4:42pm on 05 Feb 2010, ColchesterFC wrote:
I think it's more a north-south debacle. Obviously the captain has to be from London. You can't have a northern monkey doing the job.
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That won´t bother the Utd "fans" one bit mate, they´ll be happt that it a "local" lad has been chosen.
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375. At 4:44pm on 05 Feb 2010, GazUtd wrote:
Maybe its racism?
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"Iz it cos I iz cack?" (in bed)
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377. At 4:45pm on 05 Feb 2010, city_boy wrote:
Hey!
It's inmportant to remember the bit inbetween the North and South, appropriately called the Midlands...
No relevance really, .....
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Exactly!
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Maybe Capello is on a back hander from the NOTW,and needs to help the post Easter paper sales..
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so he's gone then...i agree with the decision but it is pretty hollow victory really...who can really be happy that the england captain has been stripped of the captaincy in disgrace...unless ur scottish of course
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377. At 4:45pm on 05 Feb 2010, city_boy wrote:
Hey!
It's inmportant to remember the bit inbetween the North and South, appropriately called the Midlands...
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If you draw a line on a map straight across the country east-west running through Peterborough anything above the line is the north, anything below is the south. The Midlands became irrelevant after Maggie T shut down all our manufacturing industry.
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#367
Adam, honestly, you've lost the plot here. Do you have something to get off your chest? Was she worth it? Bridge left because the wages were higher and he wasn't ever likely to get first team football at Chelsea. You're going too far with this by imputing something that has absolutely no basis in mild supposition, let alone fact. Besides, why not put this to rest now? Capello's made his decision. It's a resounding victory for every cuckhold, every snivelling little hanky drip who's ever found his wife in another man's bed or toilet stall, and another firm indication that if you don't have the courage to face this type of situation man to man, you can get your representatives to make the story public while sucking your thumb behind the bike sheds. I'm glad Terry did what he allegedly did, and I hope that every person here who supported this cowardice has an allegedly John Terry in their life before the year's out. Oh, and we've just lost any hope of getting anywhere at the World Cup, which means the WAGS have done it again while the rest of Europe laughs at our expense.
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#384
u do realise he will still play in team don't u? he just won't be the captain
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@384 I don't think that this story is the reason we won't get anywhere at the World Cup. I think Brazil, Spain, Italy, Germany, Holland, Portugal and several others are the reson we won't get anywhere
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Stories of the Harrison / Clapton saga sound like they come from another era - no tabloids, no pistols at dawn neither. Harrison saw how well Clapton and his wife got on and when Clapton plucked up the courage to tell Harrison that he and his wife were in love, Harrison, though his heart was broken saw the futility in losing the two closest people to him. Ultimately they all found their soulmates and lived happily after - well, for a while anyway.
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Ouch! I resent all non-Midlands based comments.
To be fair i think he chose Rio just because he wants a centre back!
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of course it has a basis in mild supposition - how else can rumours get started. If you're glad taht JT did what he did then if you ever catch your wife in bed with another bloke will you shake his hand and say fair play mate all yours?
No. Think not. If I ever find a JT in my life he'll be being fitted at the undertakers 30 seconds later.
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Coweslepe,
mate please read following.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paragraph
And for the love of JC (not johan cruyff ) try to act on it.
Dont resort to posting walls.
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#389 - refers to Cowslepe and his lovely concept of his wife is available to all of us for sex if we so choose and he won't mind AT ALL.
Of course misery loves company
ishare.rediff.com/recommended/video/1036049
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I'm just disappointed Terry didn't sleep with Roy Keane's wife, would have been a lot better. With Ferdinand I think Capello has made a mistake, eventhough I did think it probably wud be him. If you want a captain to lead by example, Rio giving the ball away on the edge of the box won't be whats required.
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Hello Peeps
Just got in for the Sky news. A little surprised as FC is probably not used to this personal stuff, especially as his PM has been doing it all the time, and he is still PM. Just imagine if our one-eyed PM did this( no don't, shock horror) but its standard fare in italy
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Ferdinand?
Go Chelsea!
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Just hope that Ferdinand remembers to turn up
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#393 - depth perception or lack of it would stop our PM
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Dont buy the NOTW, just read it online, if you have to
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At first I thought what has this got to do with his football, now I think he should not be Captain for the simple reason that Mr Capello would be sending a timely warning to those who aspire to go to South Africa, Mess with me and you are out!
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your majesty
Fair comment
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Spitfire
Modern point on paragraphing noted and dismissed, but thanks though.
Adam
My point is that footballers choose a certain type of woman just as these women choose footballers for a similar reason; it hasn't really anything to do with love or trust and has ver little basis in truth. There are exceptions, yes, but generally they're each as flaky as the other. I'm not saying 'hands on all wives', only that this isn't the same as your mate down the pub pulling yours.
As for the other comments, of course Terry will still be in the team, but one way or another, any remote hope of squad harmony has now been shattered and the media have a whole summer's worth of discordance to exploit. In England we always prevent both ourselves and those we should support from ever accomplishing more than mediocrity.
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373. At 4:42pm on 05 Feb 2010, ColchesterFC wrote:
Obviously the captain has to be from London. You can't have a northern monkey doing the job.
Hear hear!!!!
Or is it
Here here???
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I don't care who it is now.
At least dirty Terry has lost it.
A truly great day.
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Robbo, please read up on critiques of Mother Theresa. She's not the saint she's portrayed as, with her hospices getting little of the money donated for her causes and not providing pain management for the death-bound as a matter of policy. She spoke kind words for dictators who gave her money and crooks who stole their clients' money. And her private writings revealed she had become an atheist by the end while still proclaiming faith to everyone else.
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So Capello's fired Terry for "allegedly" being silly. Unbelievable. By that logic, Capello should now be fired, too - no "allegedly" about it.
How can he allow the direction of the national team to be subverted by tabloid hacks whose inane scribblings only appeal to those who don't have any brains?
Admittedly, Capello was between a rock and a hard place, but a good manager stands by his players through thick and thin.
Perhaps Ancelotti should take over - if we HAVE to have a foreigner! He doesn't give a toss what his players get up to in their private lives.
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Excellent, a pop at Mother Theresa on the Robbo Show!
Does it get any better than this?
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401. At 5:13pm on 05 Feb 2010, followingborohurts wrote:
373. At 4:42pm on 05 Feb 2010, ColchesterFC wrote:
Obviously the captain has to be from London. You can't have a northern monkey doing the job.
Hear hear!!!!
Or is it
Here here???
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Chin Chin..?
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403 - where did that come from
and if you can be random
I love Audrey Tautou!!!!
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BTP thats even BTP for BTP?????
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Damn, take about 2 hours to read through all these posts. I say put Wazza as captain and call it quits.
Meantime I gotta rub some bengay on my hamstring having pulled it trying to do too much on the field last night.
Oh yes good afternoon to all
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Most importantly, glad to see everyone giving Heinz its due. The fact that it's made in my city and is very socially responsible has nothing to do with the fact that it's the best ketchup. It just is. (Don't really care about their other products.)
As to Terry--I would have left him captain, but now that's not an option, why not Beckham, if he's in the team? Serving as much as possible as a lightning rod for media attention would be useful.
The only other choice I could see is Rooney, on the questionable theory that he's the most important player and therefore should be captain.
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My feet are cold. Watch the Mancs go and make some twee middle aged middle class suburban semi-sitcom out of that just coz they think Im having a go at them. Aiiyyy
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408,
A quick photoshop of Mother Theresa gumming off JT isn't BTP for BTP.
Unfortunately, I haven't got the time, out again (two Fridays in a row - I know!)
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Here's Trini - right on cue!!!
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BTP - you'll regret it in the morning - just like last week!!!
Anywhere nice??
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It appears that we cannot yet drop the word ALLEGEDLY when talking about the JT situation as my question asking whether we could has been modded.
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Go on then, just a quick one:
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/1947/jtmt.jpg
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fbh,
Unfortunately no, off to see my mate whose son has - incredibly out of character - just been charged with GBH.
Should be interesting...
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Going to see Steven Gerrard's dad BTP?
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415 Ray.
Feeling a bit of deja vu, didn´t you post almost exactly the same comment earlier?
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I hope this does not finish John Terry as a person because he is a colossus of a defender.
Amanda GOONER Cerasale
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419,
This one's a Mag who lives in Sunderland - I don't think he'll be so lucky.
Did I say lucky? I meant 'without a blemish on his character'.
Go Chelsea!
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The FA board and Fabio Capello should resign without delay, they have made English football a laughing stock with the sacking of John Terry, the only player who gives 100% of himself on the pitch, the affair happened before capello was made England coach. All the years that furguson has caused nothing but trouble has gone unchecked, nobody has ever called for his sacking. And now they have named a player who abused the drug testing captain, rooney had an affair did he not? yet again we see how the FA has handled this pathetic issue concerning somebodies PRIVATE life....
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"rooney had an affair did he not?"
No, just got sucked off by old whooers.
Think you mean Beckham.
And his whooer tossed a pig off on telly.
Funny old world.
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Now we´ll really see how strong JT is.
He obviously didn´t want to give the armband up, so this must come as a major blow to him. I´m not so sure how FC´s decision will effect the national team in the long run, but it will also be intresting to see how it may effect JT in his role at the Bridge.
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423. At 5:59pm on 05 Feb 2010, Norman Hickman wrote:
The FA board and Fabio Capello should resign without delay, they have made English football a laughing stock with the sacking of John Terry, the only player who gives 100% of himself on the pitch........
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Problem was 100% of himself off the pitch too, allegedly.
Can´t see why FC should resign though?
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"Can´t see why FC should resign though?"
Second slice in a sandwich?
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IF Gerrard did actually hit the DJ and the video evidence suggests different, it was a Utd fan from London so I reckon that shows good judgement. No insult to all Utd fans just the shallow ones from the South.
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I like football. I don't think that most footballers are really people people in the sense that the rest of the world matters that much to them. Whether I like this or not is irrelevant. It's a fact. What Terry, or anyone else gets up to off the field, is as much interest to me as what non-celebrities get up to: absolutely none.
If Clinton can do what he did and stay US president, what the hell are we all getting so het up about?
Football is what we want, not moralising. Moralising is something to get on with in your own life, even if your "heroes" don't.
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429.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRTmK7Mv1es
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MAybe Fabio Capello is an agent for the Italian FA sent to undermine the chances of England at the World Cup by disrupting team preparations.
I'm sure I just heard an Italian radio presenter say...
"Come home agent Capello your work there is done"
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@ 429 - what video evidence have you been watching? Its pretty clear he did hit the DJ
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"354. At 4:17pm on 05 Feb 2010, Spitfire wrote:
Is it wrong that I am reading all the comments by africanfootballer in a Nigerian accent?"
Nah mate but I have just started reading yours in a redneck accent!
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On the subject of Mother Theresa, the Vatican, when going through a beatification process, normally call in a 'devil's advocate' to put the other side of the story as to the person's suitability for ultimate canonisation.
In the case of Mother Theresa, they called in Christopher Hitchens, and I believe they made a mistake there; I think they meant to get his brother Peter, thereby cutting the middle-man out altogether.
And isn't time an odd thing? I remember Mother Theresa regularly being photographed with the great and good such as President Reagan and Princess Di. These days, if an foreign-looking old woman with a tea-towel on her head got that close to someone of that importance she'd end up with seven bullets accidentally lodged in her brain.
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"Oh, and we've just lost any hope of getting anywhere at the World Cup"
LMAO. Oh ok, that was the reason.
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Just who's been shagging who's best mate's missus since 1966?
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Well done Mr Capello. The right decision.
As for the blog debate I'm not sure why it exists in respect of his replacement. Isn't it obvious Fabio would always stick by the structure of Vice Captain and third choice Captain that he'd put in place?
He's a man of structure, rules and regulations.
Ferdinand will do a good job.
We'll still go out in the quarters.
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354. At 4:17pm on 05 Feb 2010, Spitfire wrote:
Is it wrong that I am reading all the comments by africanfootballer in a Nigerian accent?
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It is since I'm not Nigerian but maybe you are!!
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"It is since I'm not Nigerian but maybe you are!!"
Have you posted the requsite 75% of international piss-takes to qualify for a permit to post on this forum?
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341. At 4:03pm on 05 Feb 2010, Holloway2Holland wrote:
338. At 3:57pm on 05 Feb 2010, africanfootballer wrote
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As an Arsenal supporter I still agree with some of your previous comments, but by chosing to add the words "Go Chelsea!!", you make yourself look bias and impartial.
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I think you mean partial and not impartial. Either way, everybody is entitled to their opinion!
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"Either way, everybody is entitled to their opinion!"
Who the hell told you that!
What do you think this is - a forum for free and open debate or something?
You have a lot to learn...
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"429. At 6:16pm on 05 Feb 2010, ray wrote:
IF Gerrard did actually hit the DJ and the video evidence suggests different, it was a Utd fan from London so I reckon that shows good judgement. No insult to all Utd fans just the shallow ones from the South.
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Gerrard is a United fan? From London?!?
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439. At 6:32pm on 05 Feb 2010, africanfootballer wrote:
354. At 4:17pm on 05 Feb 2010, Spitfire wrote:
Is it wrong that I am reading all the comments by africanfootballer in a Nigerian accent?
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It is since I'm not Nigerian but maybe you are!!
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Funny thing. I AM Nigerian.
Thats solved then.
As you were.
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AF - good comebacks - ditch the team and your in;)
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441. At 6:35pm on 05 Feb 2010, africanfootballer wrote:
341. At 4:03pm on 05 Feb 2010, Holloway2Holland wrote:
338. At 3:57pm on 05 Feb 2010, africanfootballer wrote
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As an Arsenal supporter I still agree with some of your previous comments, but by chosing to add the words "Go Chelsea!!", you make yourself look bias and impartial.
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I think you mean partial and not impartial. Either way, everybody is entitled to their opinion!
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Bad form H2. You are giving Narf Landon bad name lad.
Sort it out.
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#446 - its the Amsterdam effect.
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349. At 4:10pm on 05 Feb 2010, Coweslepe wrote:
#338
So it's not actually a Chelsea bias but a straight down the line African bias then? Well, that clears things up. Go an entire continent!
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I'm not sure I get your failed attempt at sarcasm!! I have a valid reason for supporting a team and that does not sit well with you, big deal!! How that tie into the blog and my initial two cents?? Since you enjoy responding to me maybe you can address that for me
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I'm off too make the breweries considerably richer. Have fun weekends all. Not you JT.
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445. At 6:41pm on 05 Feb 2010, United Dreamer wrote:
AF - good comebacks - ditch the team and your in;)
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Totally agreed.
Anyone with a sense of humour and a grasp on English, coupled with some sense of respect for humanity should not chose to support Chelsea.
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Terry gets ridiculously well paid to do a job he loves. He was appointed to a position to a position of responsibility in being captain of England. This in my view means setting example and good character both on and off the field. Clearly the current media furore severely undermines this position not to mention the impact it has on the team. Capello is probably best placed to make the right call given his close working relationship with the squad and being party to the dynamics within the group. Either the captaincy means a prominent role on and off the field - in which case Terry has failed the test, or its simply an on field role in which case Terry will still start and can still go about his regular job at centre back.
Yes you can argue that players are entitled to privacy and private lives but if you want this then dont sign up to be captain of England, and if you do dont start having affairs and all the rest of it.
Terry can take comfort that this matter will be forgotten about as soon as soon as some other high profile celeb screws up, X factor re-starts or someone gets voted off some reality TV show. That and his massive salary, great job and World Cup, Champions League and League Title race to look forward to.
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@450 You need a grasp of English to post on this blog? Have you read any of the posts that appear on here. Very limited knowledge of spelling, grammar, punctuation or indeed the English language in a lot of them.
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On one final football and African football related comment - AF - how do you feel Obi Mikel feels about his decision to join Chelsea now?
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Colch makes a valid observation. Tbh it was a mainly anti-Chelsea comment Spits was just fluffing it out a bit. Thats my guess.
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423. At 5:59pm on 05 Feb 2010, Norman Hickman wrote:
The FA board and Fabio Capello should resign without delay...
All the years that furguson has caused nothing but trouble has gone unchecked, nobody has ever called for his sacking....
And now they have named a player who abused the drug testing captain, rooney had an affair did he not? yet again we see how the FA has handled this pathetic issue concerning somebodies PRIVATE life....
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Norman, I myself like to have a wee rant now and again but you seem to have taken the whole thing personally like you're part of John Terry's bestest friend fan club. You made 3 main arguments.
1) Resign without delay? I think that would be a bit of a regressive step no?
2) Ferguson causing trouble? What relevance does this have to the whole thing? I'm pretty certain Fergie has been proven correct more than hes been proven wrong.
3) Ferdinand missing a dope test is not akin to shaggin your team mates ex. Rooney shagged a granny when he was 17 or something, get over it please.
IN summary I would have to say that you're wrong in nearly every sense and should maybe retract your statement.
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This is not a forum for abusing Chelsea. This is a forum for abusing Chelsea, Man Un**ed, Liverpool, and Arsenal. Everyone knows that the best posts on here are the ones that manage to upset all the glory hunting trophy w****s in one go (insert slang name of lady who takes money for services provided)
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Again Colch you make a fair point but you're eating into my drinking time. Now Im definitely off after the blog was getting interesting.
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AfricanFootballer,
I am not sure if you have ever lived in England for an extended period of time, support a team because of a regional/familial relation or you simply support a team based on you favourite footballer that plays for them as is the case with most of the NEW supporters across Africa, India and the Far East.
If its either of the first two, I need not explain it to you how being a Fan works.
However, supporting a club e.g. ManU or Real madrid just because Christiano Ronaldo plays for them does not have the same bearing on the perceived allegiance or the resultant rivalry that you experience sitting in a bar/living room some thousands of miles apart.
There is nothing wrong with it. I suppose. Just, its a bit difficult for both of us to feel the same.
Hope that was the explanation for our over the top hostility towards your "Go Chelsea"
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Spit
It´s living over here in johnny foriegner land for so many years, I hardly ever speak English anymore and I only really use the language on these pages.
africanfootballer
Thanks for corecting my Engerlish.
The whole Terry for captain discussion is water under the Bridge (oops)
now. (btw I thought he should of stayed captain)
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342. At 4:04pm on 05 Feb 2010, GazUtd wrote:
"It's unfortunate if some of you feel that my argument is all of a sudden discredited because I support Chelsea"
Even if you were arguing for evolution or to be nice to old people it would automatically be discredited by your support of Chelsea
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What's your point GAzutd? It appears as though you did not read my argument or maybe you read it but are just picking up on what other people before you said!! Either way you don't have to respond to this unless you're bored or something!!
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Why do you have to begin with Imagination of the final between Spain & England. think of the team on the plane to South Africa, what must be going through the English Player's mind, If England wins the world cup (IMAGINATION I can imagine too),Terry is suddenly a hero all his bad deeds are forgotten so how has the media punished him, if at all Terry feels what he is done is a grave unforgivable mistake , he shouldnt be where Bridge is and i include Stamford Bridge too. Football isnt just a game, its passion , what Terry did isnt Passion ,its just a game, a bad one... Its should be a lesson for others.
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O Boy.
Think your new friend is going to reply to every comment. One comment at a time.
Good on him.
He'll learn real soon.
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442. At 6:38pm on 05 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:
"Either way, everybody is entitled to their opinion!"
Who the hell told you that!
What do you think this is - a forum for free and open debate or something?
You have a lot to learn...
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And that's why i'm taking all the learning I can from your mother!!! Go in peace my friend!
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Ah excellent. We've returned to the "your mother" comments again. The last resort of the terminally stupid and un-educated
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Here we go with the "yo mama" jibes again...
Do you really wanna do this?
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Terry is much better than you guys who keep talking about Mother's of Other's
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Great blog Robbo but I'm worried....."and great herds of lasses who think that life is a choice between a lottery win and a footballer husband, cornering them at every turn" ..... the feminists will be after you but if this is what England has become I'll be moving back after tonight's Mega Millions draw.
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The feminists won't be after him Trott. They'll be too busy doing the housework to have time to read Robbo's blog.
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Hi Trott mate,
Surely there are more then enough gold diggers in your neck of the woods.
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Haha Colch. H2, Yes indeed but they all yap so much!
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You could always use the JT way to shut them up ALLEGEDLY. I believe that ALLEGEDLY paying them £250000 is a good way to stop them talking (especially to the press) ALLEGEDLY
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This is from the BBC spor website..........
Meanwhile, Perroncel, a lingerie model and former nightclub hostess, said she would not be selling her story.
In a statement read on her behalf by publicist Max Clifford, Perroncel said: "I have decided I do not want to speak publicly about the speculation since it only seems to add more fuel to the fire.
"I have a three-year-old son and he is my main concern. I do not believe speaking to newspapers or the media is in his interest or my own."
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So what she's not saying is that it would be in the best interests of my son I have decided to take the money offered by JT and keep my mouth shut. ALLEGEDLY.
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From JT to Plug from the bash street kids what a joke. The world must be laughing their football socks off.
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470. At 7:28pm on 05 Feb 2010, TrotterUSA wrote:
Haha Colch. H2, Yes indeed but they all yap so much!
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That´s an international problem, I´ve lived in 4 countries, women, they be a yapping.
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#448
No, that's all right; I think it's all fairly clear. Besides, I'd always wondered how Garth Crooks managed to get and then keep his job, and your partiality seems to explain what many of us have long supposed. Oh, and 'Go Chelsea' (as long as they're mostly black).
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You see what happens Coweslepe. You suggested England had a decent chance at the World Cup and the mods got you for being ridiculous.
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Righty ... back again ... for some reason the beeb didn't like my last user name
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Righty so BTP's railing aginst everything once again JT's the talk of the town after losing the armband and Colch must be on about 60 not out now ....Have I missed anything out there?
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Yep you have Star. You missed our African friend dropping in and returning to "yo momma" insults before disappearing. What was your last user name that the BBC didn't like?
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Oh and Coweslepe deciding that the JT saga is the main reason we're not going to win the world cup. But don't worry. I've asked the nurses to up his medication.
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Not sure, they sent me a generic email claiming it had charaters that were unacceptable or offensive and after that I was locked out ... I've had to create yet another hotmail addy just to register again.
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467. At 7:18pm on 05 Feb 2010, TrotterUSA wrote:
Great blog Robbo but I'm worried....."and great herds of lasses who think that life is a choice between a lottery win and a footballer husband, cornering them at every turn" ..... the feminists will be after you but if this is what England has become I'll be moving back after tonight's Mega Millions draw.
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Think I'm worried by a bunch of them feminists? Them groupies are way more worrying. (I think in footy parlance them lasses are called Cole-hangers).
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Evening all(comedy knee bend).All was quite witty until the "yo mama" nonsense.Hey ho.
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Star, I hit F5 and your name changed again.
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I wasn't happy with the numbers game H2H ;)
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The OED definition of the 'Yo mama' joke: The default fall back for the comically and intellectually bankrupt.
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403. At 5:19pm on 05 Feb 2010, Imagine Reason wrote:
Robbo, please read up on critiques of Mother Theresa. She's not the saint she's portrayed as, with her hospices getting little of the money donated for her causes and not providing pain management for the death-bound as a matter of policy. She spoke kind words for dictators who gave her money and crooks who stole their clients' money. And her private writings revealed she had become an atheist by the end while still proclaiming faith to everyone else.
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Blinking Nora! She sounds bleeding fascinating. What you might called a mxed bag. I might just get the unauthorised biog n all.
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jt would. she looked really sexy on that catafalque.
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Crud ... Newcastle are 3-0 up inside 30 minutes ...
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yes i am suggesting jt wuld have sex with a dead albanian midget saint
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Evening Robbo. I'm glad you're here. I need advice from a no-nonsense bloke. My girlfriend is out for the evening and my son is asleep upstairs so I can't leave the house. The only booze in the house is a bottle of Baileys, a bottle of Malibu or a bottle of sparkling Rose wine all of which seem a bit feminine. Which one should I choose to drink?
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Colch,how well do you get on with the local taxi firm?Get them to bring round some cans...
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mix them together and pour in a pint of manly tabasco, colcj
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remember him?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/8501032.stm
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Colch, got milk? if so;
Caresser
1 part Baileys
1 part Malibu
4 parts milk
Place Baileys into a hurricane glass, add the Malibu and then the milk, carefully stirring.
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Start with the rose Colch, it's a lovely drink ...or you could (irresponsibly) mix all three together for a ripsnorting and little known combo capable of bending time itself. (Namely because you'll remember nothing until the next day, which'll seem it arrived in about six seconds.)
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dont be seduced by these sensible suggestions, colch, mix them all in and add tabasco
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I repeat.
This blog is a national institution.
McNulty, eat your heart out.
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@493 Jacks you truely are a genius, with one small alteration to your plan I have solved my dilemma. On phone call to the local kebab shop (I know them better than the taxi drivers) and I have a 12" Pepperoni pizza on the way along with a case of lager and a bottle of whisky. Brilliant. Jacks sir, I salute you for your intellect.
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