Wenger boys against men
Managers, eh? How do they manage? Lest I should be berated for the same old same old, let's be clear. Arsene Wenger's team were thumped. Thumped like they were last year at the Emirates by United in the Champs League.
Wenger's frustrations were many:
1. Disallowed goal for foot-up on Cech. He's watched it four times has Arsene and he can't see what it's about. Well, Cech nearly got tonked on the neck by a high boot so the ref gave a foul. Me, I wouldn't give it, but the modern goalkeeper is a rarer and more protected species than the Giant Panda and the decision was hardly surprising.
2. No penalty for Vela. Well this was because it WASN'T a penalty kick. Vela was crowded out and did that thing that your modern forward does when he's going nowhere - he stepped on the spectral banana skin and hoped - and you can injure yourself badly if you keep hitting the deck with your fingers crossed.
3. No RVP. The club v country debate looms largest when it's deprived a manager of a very influential player. But I don't buy this one. Players can get injured at any time. I don't think the Dutch national team have any vested interest in seeing Van Persie crocked either.
Wenger says the current arrangement favours the national teams too much. Too bloomin' right, sunshine. Ask a player which he'd prefer, a World Cup winner's medal or a Champs League winner's medal and I think it'll be 10 to 1 in favour of the former.
I don't believe that Diaby and Van Persie would've made much difference any road. It's hard to escape the impression that the team in red and white had been formed during a north London schools talent search and the team in blue were Cybermen masquerading as footballers.
I swear I saw Terry shouting 'Delete' as he took out the ball and Eduardo with one top-notch challenge. Mind you, his bleating to the ref after Vermaelen appeared to be fitting him for a pair of slacks took a lot of swallowing. Him and Carvalho virtually patented that kind of corner-kick cabaret.
Then you have the Arsenal footballer, as easy to differentiate from one another as a Subbuteo team: short, fleet, smart, hugely entertaining but, when it comes down to it, weedy (or if you will, Tomas Rosicky).
Drogba, at times, was shrugging off challenges like a quick-change artist getting out of a coat. Essien was a rampaging water buffalo trampling through a bunch of saplings. The Gunners still need some ballast out there.
I'm not claiming my Nostradamus badge here, but I picked Chelsea to win the title at the top of the season and I'll be right by the end of it.
There's some that reckon the African Cup of Nations will hamper them... I doubt it now that they've managed to force open a January window with some jemmy of an appeal.
Here you'd have to whole-heartedly agree with Wenger.
Having postponed the original sentence, Chelsea are effectively not being punished at all. I've heard whispers of Heskey coming in to cover Drogba. Hmmm - it's a bit like depriving a man of a seven-course banquet and saying to him 'Here have a biscuit.' But Chelsea won't struggle too much through that spell.
As they said on MOTD2, Anelka's playing with a smile on his face - a thing as rare and as beautiful as a Mick McCarthy compliment.
Terry's back to his best, the Lampard goal drought of a while back hardly seems to matter now and it's great to see Joe Cole playing the Deco role (far more effectively if you ask me).
So Wenger can bleat all he likes (much like Fergie two or three weeks back, it always takes a defeat to bring it out) and I'd love all that loveliness to win him something, but there's no two ways about it. There's more fight in the Spurs dog right now.
Elsewhere, Everton continue to look a shadow of their former selves. You couldn't criticise their endeavour, but the only thing that looks like causing any real damage is Fellaini's elbow.
Rafa claims the victory at Goodison is a turning point for what he endearingly calls 'the cloob'. Given he's got Blackburn, Pompey and Wolves coming up, you'd have to hope he's right. But by mid-Jan Arsenal home, Villa away, Spurs home will decide whether the Europa League is going to be talked up or not.
Avram Grant was pleased with his new side's efforts against a somewhat stumbling United (the closer they got to the opposition penalty box the more they stumbled). However it's hard to see them scoring with a front two of Dicky Picquionne and Desperate Dindane.
West Ham continue to put themselves in jeopardy by going in front. At 2-0 up I thought they were in real trouble. Turned out they're never more vulnerable than when they're five up.
And Hull seem revived with Bullard in the van. And at a time of utterly tedious goal celebrations - from the 20-yard knee-slider to the Rodallega thumb-suck via the Antonio Valencia deadpan - how great to see a genuinely funny goal celebration by a bunch of lads enjoying themselves.
Sparky didn't know why the pen was given. I suspect if he asks Toure he'll find out. I thought Hughes'd be the first manager to lose his parking space this season. I'll have to settle for second.
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'spectral banana skin' That should be a band name lol.
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Thought I would check before heading off to bed and it was here. I agree with your summary of the Arsenal game Robbo.. Your title mirrored my own post match posts.
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I love the way you wrote off United's win. Good as gold, Robbo.
Chelsea will drop a few points over the African Nations, and will have some tired players after, but will it be enough? It's impossible to tell. Arsenal look exactly as most through - pretty, nice to watch, but lacking in a strong spine. Fabregas and Arshavin always look good, but they miss a Vieira like Chelsea will miss Essien and Drogba.
Poor old Everton.
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Dear Arsenne,
less Rosicky and more Vermaelen please.
Thankyou
Your supporters
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RVP is a massive loss for the gunners he sets up as many goals as he scores himself!! 5 months out totally gutted!!!
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4. At 2:49pm on 30 Nov 2009, Spitfire wrote:
Dear Arsenne,
less Rosicky and more Vermaelen please.
Thankyou
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It must be difficult to watch your team play with such inferior physical presence to most other teams in the prem. To think ten years ago, you had the likes of Petit, Vieira, Adams, Keown and Parlour playing.
I know how you feel, for years we have wondered why Everton lost derby game after derby game. Well i'm afraid when you have players as physically inept as Scot Gemmill, Mark Pembridge, Gary Naysmith, Tony Hibbert and Li Tie you will lose games were you can be bullied out of it
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I've heard whispers of Heskey coming in to cover Drogba. Hmmm - it's a bit like depriving a man of a seven-course banquet and saying to him 'Here have a biscuit.' But Chelsea won't struggle too much through that spell.
Quality that one.
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OI oi del me old mucker, (bringing some coloquial balance to this blog).
Man, i have to agree with you, Chelsea are looking scary... It may be because thieir don't appear to be many blues on here running thier gums as much as other top 4 fans... But the idea doesn't sit as bad as it has in previous seasons of them winning... If United win, oh god... "4 in a row, lets go smooch our gary neville posters" if 'Pool win (look it's hyperthetical) it'll "dodi-do-do-dat-rafa-did-he-did-didn't-he-doh!" and if arsenal win on total football, the Smug will melt the polar ice caps and we'll be dead this time next year!
Hmmm, at least the chelsea fans are relitively quiet (you can shut them up anyway as they bought it)...
Oh and up the Shots... (Any chance Tranmere will let Barnsey manage one more game???)
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Spot on Robbo, that Chelsea team has power and skill in abundance (a fair dose of niggly nastiness too but less when Ballack is out), of course we knew they must be something special when they put 4 past Bolton (twice in 4 days in fact), regardless of the fact that they were already top of the league! Not a weak link in sight. It's a tough ask for Man U to win it but it'd be their best if they do!
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Good Blog Robbo,
But another week has gone where you skate over certain teams. Increasingly in the EPL, it can be more exciting for fans outside the top 6 to speculate over who is going down, but you never seem to do this (maybe its being a boro fan ;))
Also, as a bluenose, I was wondering what your thoughts were on us (or any midlands team) as you had written us off as relegation favourites at the start of the season. While Wolves are struggling, Villa are starting to get some of last years form back despite losing Barry.
I think Chelsea will struggle while the ACN is on, as the reason for their success seems to be a great striking relationship between Drogba and Anelka. Will 'Le Sulk' play as well with Sturridge or Kakuta?
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Robbo, as an Arsenal supporter I have to agree with you on almost every point concerning yesterday's "match". After the game I posted.
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1058. At 6:05pm on 29 Nov 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:
Good day for the away teams in the PL today.
Well done Chelsea, they defended and took their chances well and in the end the better team won. (ouch) No complaints from me we were beaten fair and square.
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I personally don't like the way AW seems to want to point fingers and blame other factors on our lose, we weren't that bad, but Chelsea were much, much better, simple.
There's no shame in losing to what is, at the moment, looking like the best team in the land, so come on Mr W, suck it up and take it like a man.
I do however wish to contest one of your points, I am an Arsenal supporter after all, so one whinge is to be expected.
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Robbo Robson wrote;
"I'd love all that loveliness to win him something, but there's no two ways about it. There's more fight in the Spurs dog right now."
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Now, would that be the same Spurs that were completly out fought at the Emirates a month ago? The same Spurs that lost at home to Stoke?
That said, they did look good in the second half against Villa Saturday.
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Chelsea are certs for this seasons championship far too strong in all areas (they all know what it takes to win it aswell) don't let the ACN fool anybody their fixture list isn't too bad at all during January.
Still say Gunners will finish in top 3 lightweight or not
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I've got to say I think Robbo might struggle to reach the magical 1000 responses to this blog, especially if we stay on topic, as there doesn't appear to be anything controversial in there at all.
Chelsea look good - no-one can disagree with that although I did think they were playing for a draw from the start.
Arsenal aren't strong enough when they come up against a physically bigger team - that's up there with "the pope prays several times a day" in terms of shock news.
Liverpool's chacnes of getting in the CL next season will depend on results against the teams around them - the pope's still praying
Everton were poor - yep
RVP injury - did Wenger phone Slaven Bilic and apologise for Eduardo's broken leg?
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Top 2 look done and dusted.Chelsea appear to have that Mourinho automaton feel again.The bigger question for them is can they finally win the champions league.The ACoN won't stop them as they have plenty to spare in the squad.If I were a Chelsea fan,I'd be looking to see how many players at their current peak can be replaced over the next2/3 years as age is catching up.Arsenal are the best of the rest.3rd for them
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13 CFC. wrote
"RVP injury - did Wenger phone Slaven Bilic and apologise for Eduardo's broken leg?
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Why would he? Eddy's first and foremost an Arsenal player.
I think AW is miffed at the fact that the KNVB (Dutch FA) mis diagnosed RvP's injury, although why the Arsenal pysio team didn't double check before he went to the Plasenta Centre is beyond me.
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Come on Robbo, we need more controversy than this!
Has anyone noticed how poor Man Utd's squad looks these days? Take out Rooney and they can say good-bye to being runners-up behind Chelsea in the league.
Let it begin...
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I think even without Rooney Man Utd have enough to finish 2nd in the league but that might be more to do with how poor the clubs below them are looking this year
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15. At 3:34pm on 30 Nov 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:
13 CFC. wrote
"RVP injury - did Wenger phone Slaven Bilic and apologise for Eduardo's broken leg?
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Why would he? Eddy's first and foremost an Arsenal player.
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I think he is first and foremost Dutch and an international at that.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/3659835.stm
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National teams should spend some of that lovely dosh they rake in to cover injuries, but that's what you have to deal with when you manage a team of injury prone players.
I think that without Drogba to muscle opponents they're struggle, and Essien is an important engine room player for Chelsea. But I also fear i'm clutching at straws, and that the players that will come in can cover for the few games. The bigger risk is that they pick up injuries or exhaustion. Drogba is such an out for Chelsea - they can always pump it forwards or wide and one of Anelka or Drogba will be chasing it, pushing the defence back off the midfield. It's what United sorely lack, and why we need Macheda to get older and wiser faster.
Arsenal have the quality to see off the pretenders for third, but I can't see them threatening further up than that. RVP has had a stonking season up to the injury and its a damn shame for him. As a neutral (just) i'd say its time to give Walcott his head in front of Arshavin and Fabregas.
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18. At 3:42pm on 30 Nov 2009, MrBlueBurns wrote:
15. At 3:34pm on 30 Nov 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:
13 CFC. wrote
"RVP injury - did Wenger phone Slaven Bilic and apologise for Eduardo's broken leg?
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Why would he? Eddy's first and foremost an Arsenal player.
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I think he is first and foremost Dutch and an international at that.
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Are you going to tell him or should I H2H?
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p.s. We will still be better than Spurs come May.
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Hi Trotter, How was the turkey gorging holiday weekend, feeling stuffed?
RBA, love the A'shot link, I'm considerating it as a future holiday destination. Do they do tours that enable you to observe the local "wild life" in their natural habitat? Preferably with guide if possible. ;p
ps Did you check ROTW?
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20. At 3:45pm on 30 Nov 2009, ColchesterFC wrote:
18. At 3:42pm on 30 Nov 2009, MrBlueBurns wrote:
15. At 3:34pm on 30 Nov 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:
13 CFC. wrote
"RVP injury - did Wenger phone Slaven Bilic and apologise for Eduardo's broken leg?
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Are you going to tell him or should I H2H?
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Hope you don't mind me pointing out that actually it's Arsenal who pay his wages.
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question, would you rather have RVP or Rooney in your side. I'd say Arshavin was more important to Arsenal than RVP - he has incredible shooting technique - no one else seems to be able to hit the ball so clean when its bouncing so dirty.
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Wenger boys --> Venga Boys
The comedey equivilant of striking oil, how i have not spotted this?
Venga bus being Arsene's windowless dirty white transit van of course...
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18. At 3:42pm on 30 Nov 2009, MrBlueBurns wrote:
15. At 3:34pm on 30 Nov 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:
13 CFC. wrote
"RVP injury - did Wenger phone Slaven Bilic and apologise for Eduardo's broken leg?
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Are you going to tell him or should I H2H?
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Allow me sir,
Eduardo is Crozilian, well he was born in Brazil but plays for Croatia.
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ColchesterFC & Holloway2Holland
Whoops, try this link then, to an international that Wenger signed.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/6260864.stm
p.s. is that a tache in the photo. If so, its awful!
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H2!
Mate, forgive my bad manners, i did read ROTW this morning, thank you very much for passing on my regards...
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He is croatian (well, Crozillian), i think that is what they was getting at... I think it is fair to say that most players put country before club... (except for people like Scholes and Caraagher, but they are dreadful examples of human beings)...
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Crozilian... Any one else picture a massive mutant crow attacking Tokyo?
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It's hard to escape the impression that the team in red and white had been formed during a north London schools talent search and the team in blue were Cybermen masquerading as footballers.
I swear I saw Terry shouting 'Delete' as he took out the ball and Eduardo with one top-notch challenge.
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That is absolute genius although I preferred teh old Cybermen rather than teh new one.
Although with teh ACON coming up you can just picture Chelsea lose some ground come to OT in April and Rooney gives them the John McClane sign off... yipeekayay Chelsea
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A danger of overrating Chelsea here kids.
A 5 point lead can be turned into a deficit within a week.
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I can see Omid Djalili doing it now,RBA
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31. At 3:55pm on 30 Nov 2009, Worst firm in the world wrote:
A danger of overrating Chelsea here kids.
A 5 point lead can be turned into a deficit within a week.
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Yep just ask Rafa and Keegan (he'd just love it if you asked him)
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22 RBA
I understand where everyone is coming from, but in all fairness, the clubs shell out enormous sums of money for wages, therefore when a player picks up an injury during international duty, I can understand the frustration. Although, agreed in 'most' instances players naturally would put their country first.
Arsenal missed RvP yesterday, but I don't believe we would have won if he had been playing. Chelsea are like a machine at present, awesome form, strength and experience. For me; they win the league this season ... no question.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/6260864.stm
p.s. is that a tache in the photo. If so, its awful!
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Ha! He looks like Darryl Jenks from Coming to America.
'Just let your soooul glow...'
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29, RBA, would make a good flick, add Maradona/Henry in the cast and you could call it "The Crozilian vs the Hand of Godzilla".
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Chelsea will not win the Prem It will be the same top 4 id course but Man Ure to win it. Only possible variable would be Hiddink to City for the Jan sales and another 43.000.000.000.000 qeid spent.
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31, you speak wisely... but it is our jobs to get over excited, today Chelsea have won the world cup, last week Liverpool were releagted to the Plimsole League, week before Henry was to be frozen in carbonite and left in the centre of dublin to be spat on...
The British public: Blowing everything out of all proportion since 1598...
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8. At 3:10pm on 30 Nov 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:
OI oi del me old mucker, (bringing some coloquial balance to this blog).
Man, i have to agree with you, Chelsea are looking scary... It may be because thieir don't appear to be many blues on here running thier gums as much as other top 4 fans...
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Its because they dont have much fans anyway.
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38. At 3:59pm on 30 Nov 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:
31, you speak wisely... but it is our jobs to get over excited, today Chelsea have won the world cup, last week Liverpool were releagted to the Plimsole League, week before Henry was to be frozen in carbonite and left in the centre of dublin to be spat on...
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The Henry bit may still happen.
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31. At 3:55pm on 30 Nov 2009, Worst firm in the world wrote:
A danger of overrating Chelsea here kids.
A 5 point lead can be turned into a deficit within a week.
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I think people have made the assumption based on fact and form. Are you not just under-rating them?
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The British public: Blowing everything out of all proportion since 1598...
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At least we haven't been blowing things up since 1598
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I think England40bill is under rating them...
i love that sort of comment... no reason, no fact, noclue... Just stright from the gut "Chelsea wont win"...
Fergy will quit at the end of season...
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42. At 4:08pm on 30 Nov 2009, adampsb wrote:
The British public: Blowing everything out of all proportion since 1598...
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At least we haven't been blowing things up since 1598
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It was a close run thing 7 years later though Adam
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44. At 4:10pm on 30 Nov 2009, jacksofbuxton wrote:
42. At 4:08pm on 30 Nov 2009, adampsb wrote:
The British public: Blowing everything out of all proportion since 1598...
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At least we haven't been blowing things up since 1598
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It was a close run thing 7 years later though Adam
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Ah yes, the only man to enter parliament with honest intentions....
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In fairness on the Eduardo bit, if Croatia hadn't sorted him out with a passport he probably wouldn't play for Arsenal in the first place.
I don't think anyone is to blame, and i think Wenger only risks alienating players by thinking he is against them playing for their countries, similar to the Heinze/Ferguson thing a few years ago.
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It's hard work all this history to keep on top of Mrburns.I've always thought history was just one thing after another
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45. At 4:11pm on 30 Nov 2009, MrBlueBurns wrote:
44. At 4:10pm on 30 Nov 2009, jacksofbuxton wrote:
42. At 4:08pm on 30 Nov 2009, adampsb wrote:
The British public: Blowing everything out of all proportion since 1598...
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It was a close run thing 7 years later though Adam
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Which Guy are we talking about?
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Captain,I think all managers are against their players playing international football.Every time something approaches(friendly,qualifier etc.) the bleating starts.
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H2, only stuffed twice, thanks for asking! Bolton could have made it three but they hung on in like Gungadin to secure a point. Not a great display but a bit of determination goes a long way to make up for a lack of ability. At least they're trying! As a loyal yet realistic Gooner, have your expectations/hopes been tempered a bit?
I can see us pipping Wolves and Portsmouth but Brum are still playing well and just when we don't need it, as Robbo points out, Hull are getting some team spirit! Last thing we need is team bonding at Hull! December is a big month for us and not because Santa's coming.
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This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.
incidentally, the idea that Chelsea will go and buy a new striker to cover their loss of players during the African Nations is a fallacy - they won't do that - though they may buy Aguero anyway, because they want him long term.
barstewards. he would be much better served coming to United to link up with Rooney, but we said the same about Torres (it's still true) and he made the biggest mistake of his career.
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He had a hell of a temper,H2H.A very short fuse
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who are you talking about? I'll give you a penny for your thoughts.
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GenesisRed
I agree. I just can't fathom why certain people seem to think that Chelsea wanted to postpone any ban so that they could buy players to cover for the ACON. Do they really think that Chelsea would wake up on 1 January, suddenly realise that players were off, for a bienial event, and would only then check that they had enough players left!
You're right, there may be some long term planning going on but any cover for ACON is just a bonus, not a plan.
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54. At 4:19pm on 30 Nov 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:
who are you talking about? I'll give you a penny for your thoughts.
I'm going to have to plee the 5th with this one...
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Evening All, I didn't really expect a better result, mentioned on friday that I thought a draw would be a good result Chelsea are bigger, stronger and more aggressive than us they also had a near first choice team out and without Drogba and Anelka they would of struggled as well to create clear cut chances. That is not excuse making, just my observation. We were always going to be up against it and I took the match with a pinch of salt as it hasn't affected the title race merely confirmed my earlier suspiscions that being the only top four side not to have been weakened with serious long term injuries or players being sold Chelse aren't stronge rthan last season, everyone else is weaker and I think the way the game went yesterday that was obvious to all.
Almunia needs to be dropped and sold, that was an awful piece of flapping for the 2nd goal and where the hell was he for the 3rd?
Arshavin needs a kick up the backside as his form of last season is but a distant memory. Whomever does the medicals for our players needs to be shot, Chelsea looked so strong, we looked like we were made of balsa wood. Dissapointing? Yes. Unexpected? No.
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Well he was certainly popular.Him and hid friends used to get on like a house on fire.
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I believe his favourite record was "Burn,baby,burn"
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Eduardo looks a shadow of the player he was after the incredibly limited clogger Martin Taylor carelessly shattered the leg of a far superior player. Rosicky and eduardo will have acreer long injury problems ahead of them, as will Diaby after that shocking challenege from the incredibly limited clogger Dan Smith of Sudnerland that broke AND dislocated his ankle (for which he was only shown a yellow card I might add)
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Hello Eggs.Who would you look at to replace Almunia in nets?
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49. At 4:15pm on 30 Nov 2009, jacksofbuxton wrote:
Captain,I think all managers are against their players playing international football.Every time something approaches(friendly,qualifier etc.) the bleating starts.
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I have to say it's particularly ridiculous when this whingeing comes from managers of the better clubs who are, by definition, going to have more international footbnallers on thier books. If you don't like all this meddling, go and manage Darlington.
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It's a shame so early into the season Arsenal and Liverpool fans have to face up to the facts they are in the same boat as Spurs, Villa and Man City fans hoping for a top 4 finish in the league.
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how is almunia an arsenal player? wenger buys rubbish goalkeepers.
the puns are shocking, by the way.
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50 Trotter, not really, I wasn't expecting the boys to take much from yesterdays game anyway and I already predicted that the Sunderland game would be tricky too.
Chelsea are the form team at the moment, for the first time in a few years they are the club to look up to and be feared, sorry mancs, but Utd don't look as great as they have been previously. Cue avalanche.
After yesterdays defeat many will once again write Arsenal off, GOOD, I prefer it like that, we usually perform better when we slip under the rader.
There's a long way to go yet Guys (or folks/Fawkes).
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Agreed re cloggers, and they were injured playing fro Arsenal - short of jsut banning your players from international matches what does Wenger expect the national federations to do?
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How is RedBlueArmy92, RBA but ScotchEggsRule is Eggs not SER?
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I have to say it's particularly ridiculous when this whingeing comes from managers of the better clubs who are, by definition, going to have more international footbnallers on thier books. If you don't like all this meddling, go and manage Darlington.
is that why spurs are buying the entire honduras squad? get summers off. probably why english players are more expensive
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Well,you're not held over a barrel to read them captain.I agree on the keeper front.How much does a decent keeper cost?How much did Fergie pay for VdS?
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64. At 4:28pm on 30 Nov 2009, captainlazytim wrote:
how is almunia an arsenal player? wenger buys rubbish goalkeepers.
the puns are shocking, by the way.
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True. And to think I was at the front of the queue to hand him a passport for England. I think Martinez is right that Kirkland might force his way into the reckoning ahead of, say, Foster.
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don't managers have the choice about international friendles, or can they only withdraw players for injury?
maybe holland should supply a replacement for the period he is out. sort of rent-a-strop
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Managers and scouts do seem to have blind spots. Shocks me how they don't sort them out to cover their own. Wenger hasn't been able to pick a keeper for ever, while United seem to lack the ability to spot (or get) top quality outright strikers. RVN was an exception, but then he didn't have the rest of the game. What we've needed for ages is a Drogba / Ronaldo (Brazilian version) / Torres - someone who will run with the ball as well as be on the end of crosses.
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67. At 4:30pm on 30 Nov 2009, ColchesterFC wrote:
How is RedBlueArmy92, RBA but ScotchEggsRule is Eggs not SER?
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An interesting question,probably answered(at a guess)that various usernames have colours in them,mainly red.Blue is an aussie colloquialism and army is a bit formal.
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67: It is what it is... you'll be wise not not meddle any further! You might not like the answers you find!
Stay off the Moores!
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On the keeper issue, popular opinion has it that Almunia could be bettered.
Also, Arsenal FC make profit.
Also, Arsenal don't appear to be good enough to win the league.
By comparison, when Man U didn't spend the £80m received from the sale of Ronaldo, many cynics said that the Glazers had squirreled it away to pay for debts.
Why are the Arsenal board accused of this? Alternatively, why isn't Wenger held to task for not spending money that it available.
I think Wenger hides behind pretty football.
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Kirkland will certainly get an unrivalled chance to get his eye in at Wigan, as Titus seems to be back to more typical form.
There aren't a lot of decent keepers out there, but i reckon it's the one position you have to spend money on. Like buying nice shoes.
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MrBlueBurns, I've seen some of your posts on other blogs and they always seem well thought out and reasoned commments, it's nice to have a grounded Chelsea fan here on Robbo's blog, hope you join in more often.
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re #75
That should be 'why AREN'T the Arsenal board accused of this'. D'oh!
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i saw wenger talking the other day saying about how he was paying off £25m a year from the stadium whilst 'staying at the top'. maybe the board have lowered expectations until the ground is theirs, and will spend then.
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77.. Yeah Mr Blue... you're ok! Now we need an obnoxious chelsea fan to argue with Adam and Onions...
Any takers... Are you ignorant, narrow minded and spend your weekends on the Kings road?
Please apply here*
*Reasonable people need not apply.
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#77 H2H (if I may.)
I always find Robbo's blogs entertaining and would post on them more often. The problem in recent weeks though is that too many of the posts have been about JDR etc and rarely about the blog itself. Got a bit boring but that seems to be not the case today.
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Vamaelen ended his goal drought which I thought was nice, we all talked about his finishing ability, he scored plenty of goals and when Drogba scored his wonderful goal I thought it was a real strikers finish then to see Vamaelen top it, it was quite impressive.
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Btw, didn't catch up with Ireland's bid to be the 33rd team in South AFrica till the blog was put through. Bloody ridiculous idea mind you. We've all pilloried Henry for his palpably deliberate handball, but the Irish are going on like they were dead certs to win that match and that is simply not true. The replay won't happen. The late inclusion won't happen either cos they were about to get involved in penalties in Paris, which is by no means a certainty (unless you're England). I'm gutted for them, but enough already with the hare-brained schemes to somehow finagle a position in the finals that was by no means guaranteed before the Henry handball. If you can't replay the game - or just get each team to do a penalty shoot-out somewhere neutral - my back garden'd do - then just bite on a bit of old carpet, choke back the tears - thank your lucky stars for Keane's pen in Georgia, and live with it.
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Any takers... Are you ignorant, narrow minded and spend your weekends on the Kings road?
I think John Terry is a bit busy, good idea though it was, judging by his PR company.
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79. captainlazytim
i saw wenger talking the other day saying about how he was paying off £25m a year from the stadium whilst 'staying at the top'. maybe the board have lowered expectations until the ground is theirs, and will spend then.
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But surely, that's going to take at least 10 years! If that is the case, then players will come to Arsenal, develop (cause Wenger can coach, may no mistake about that) and then go. Is Fabregas going to spend his 20's not winning or will he go to Barcelona so that his best years are at the 'top'?
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81. At 4:38pm on 30 Nov 2009, MrBlueBurns wrote:
#77 H2H (if I may.)
I always find Robbo's blogs entertaining and would post on them more often. The problem in recent weeks though is that too many of the posts have been about JDR etc and rarely about the blog itself. Got a bit boring but that seems to be not the case today.
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To be fair JDR has not contributed too much recently and when he has it's usually been to pass comment on the subject matter and not on the so-called aims and objectives of this blog. Which is a relief.
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79. captainlazytim
i saw wenger talking the other day saying about how he was paying off £25m a year from the stadium whilst 'staying at the top'. maybe the board have lowered expectations until the ground is theirs, and will spend then.
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Very generous of Wenger to pay off £25 million a year. Maybe that's why Arsenal aren't buying players. Wenger's wages are so high he can afford to give back £25million a year
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Mrblueburns,In fairness to Arsene(speaking as a neutral)there is only a little tinkering to do with his squad.He also seems loathe to spend money,I don't know why as his last 2 major purchases(Vermaelen and Arshavin)have been good signings.A keeper and midfield enforcer,plus back up for RvP and it's all together for him
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Robbo - saw that bit and tried to get it onto the others.
Ireland have managed to turn a postion of sympathy into one of ridicule so quickly. 33rd team was one of the stupidest things i'd ever heard, and the Blatter conference on it was priceless.
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sorry mancs, but Utd don't look as great as they have been previously. Cue avalanche.
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isn't that a New Order track (On Republic I think)
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83. At 4:40pm on 30 Nov 2009, Robbo Robson wrote:
Btw, didn't catch up with Ireland's bid to be the 33rd team in South AFrica till the blog was put through. Bloody ridiculous idea mind you.
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I think a much better solution would be just to let Ireland play the winners of the World Cup after it has finished. If Ireland beat them then they can 100% fairly be World Cup winners.
Anybody second my idea? (or have Sepp's phone number)
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Even as a Liverpool fan i've got to say i think it'll be a sad day when Cesc does go home, but not one that's particularly far down the line. Can't see him winning much to compare to what is on offer at Barca.
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Fairy - i think you've hit on the only wait to shut the FAI up.
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United haven't had to look as good as they have done previously. With no risk of Liverpool winning the league, its a season to bed in the young and new members while still pushing for the title ourselves. Considering the "massive loss" of Ronaldo and being a one man team, we're not doing so bad, eh.
as far as Kirkland being in teh running - could say that just as much of Hart, who pulled off some beauties at the weekend. But (aside from Almunia obviously) isn't being a top quality shot stopper bread and butter for keeping? Just because you get peppered all game doesn't make you the best for the job. James is a fabulous shot stopper, but his mind goes AWOL. Foster is just as good a shot stopper as (if not better than) Kirkland, but has better concentration (IMO anyway). He has had a dent to his confidence but is the man for the job.
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But surely Ireland have at some point beaten wither Brazil, Germany, Italy, France or Argentina and can therefore already claim to be World Cup WInners
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95. At 4:50pm on 30 Nov 2009, adampsb wrote:
But surely Ireland have at some point beaten wither Brazil, Germany, Italy, France or Argentina and can therefore already claim to be World Cup WInners
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Would definitely be fair if France went on to win the World Cup. I think Alanis Morrisette wrote a song about it...
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With no risk of Liverpool winning the league, its a season to bed in the young and new members while still pushing for the title ourselves.
does this mean that united only want to win the league if liverpool are challenging? i don't see chelsea getting worse from here so i'd say united are in a weakened state.
i still think foster will end up back where he flourished, watford or some other championship club. there isn't a good england goalkeeper, and it's probably too late, but i would have preferred to see kirkland get a chance as i think green is toilet.
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Dont usually comment but thought that was quality this week! Good effort ya big duffer :p
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96. At 4:51pm on 30 Nov 2009, SouthernFairy wrote:
95. At 4:50pm on 30 Nov 2009, adampsb wrote:
But surely Ireland have at some point beaten wither Brazil, Germany, Italy, France or Argentina and can therefore already claim to be World Cup WInners
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Would definitely be fair if France went on to win the World Cup. I think Alanis Morrisette wrote a song about it...
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Whilst Ireland 'swallow it down like a ..............'
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63. At 4:27pm on 30 Nov 2009, SouthernFairy wrote:
It's a shame so early into the season Arsenal and Liverpool fans have to face up to the facts they are in the same boat as Spurs, Villa and Man City fans hoping for a top 4 finish in the league.
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Not true, we still got the CC. ;p
I suppose we might as well just give up in the CL too then.
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MrBlueBurns, H2H is fine mate.
85,I can't see AW changing his philosiphy regarding the transfer market any time soon, and you're probably right, we will lose a quality player here and there, but it's the price we pay for future financial security. I'm sure a lot of other clubs would "kill" to be as unsuccesful as us while retaining our financial standing.
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wish i could argue with your assessment of Arsenal... injuries are crushing us, but even with RvP, Clichy, Gibbs, we're not winning that match.
the one painfully defining moment for me? Vela in acres of space, ball on his right foot 20-yards out and moving towards center of goal - refuses to entertain a shot on goal.
as a (former) striker, i was absolutely drooling at the opportunity and nearly keeled over when he passed it up.
did i miss something re: Almunia? why the bashing - surely not due to some perceived fault over the Chelski/Vermaelen goals?
he's not the greatest by any means, but he's decent...and Mannone looks pretty good from where i sit...whatever.
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61. At 4:25pm on 30 Nov 2009, jacksofbuxton wrote:
Hello Eggs.Who would you look at to replace Almunia in nets?
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There are several goal keepers around that would be good enough to replace Almunia, but they wouldn't drastically improve the standard. There are hardly if ANY world class goal keepers around currently. Cech has looked wobbly since Hunt's clash with him. VDS is past his best, althoguh still good, definitely past his best, Reina is, imho the best of a very limited bunch in England right now. I just think we should drop him and let one of the younger goalies w ehave in on the action, they will sink or swim. lamunia is in his 30's and won;t be getting much better any time soon, so why bother? Atleast he'll be semi reliable back up mate.
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Shockingly poor merseyside derby at the weekend - grateful for the points but we didn't play well. Gerrard doesn't look anywhere near fit, he had a shocker yesterday - i dunno what Martin Keown was on about on MOTD2 last night. Still, 5th place playing crap aint a disaster. Long way to go yet, I still think we'll make Top 4.
So are Arsenal a one man team now ? It's funny how fickle their fans are too - after they demolished Everton at the start of the season this was gonna be their year, then they lost to the 2 Manc clubs and it was all, 'we're too soft' 'why hasn't Wenger bought blah blah blah' then they start winning again and it's all - 'we're gonna do this that and the other, our kids are so good blah blah blah' and then they get utterly tonked at home by Chelsea (again) and I heard some 'fans' on the phone ins (I know, I know) saying 'get Wenger out !' - respect to the Emirates btw, amazing how quickly 57,000 people can empty from these newly designed stadiums
Chelsea look very formidable at the moment - i don't see the ACON distracting them but with Abramaovich's well documented desire to win the CL you wonder whether going for multiple trophies may prove their undoing in one of the big 2.
Either that or Ferguson is going to have to produce some Yoda-esque mind games to throw them off kilter, one wonders who he'll recruit as his back-up man this year with Fat Sam out of action?
speaking of Man U - Nice to see Rooney and Giggs return to top diving form at the weekend ! On the plus side Rooney looks like he can take a pen, so that's another one of five for England come SA next summer.
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denis - just not up to the standard of the other arsenal players, maybe with the exception of eboue and bendtner
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100. At 4:54pm on 30 Nov 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:
...Not true, we still got the CC. ;p
I suppose we might as well just give up in the CL too then.
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Sorry H2H, was only referring to the league. However, yes, you might as well give up on the CL. Good luck with the CC though.
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Kirkland is made of glass - guaranteed to be injured before the World Cup
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I think the world cup should be cancelled... and instead Henry has to present the trophy to the King of Ireland... then we all spend 2 weeks laughing at him!
or plan B!
Kidnap the french team and replace them with the irish lads, then as Ireland disguised as France (surely) win the world cup, at the presentation they remove thier french shirts and raise the the trophy in thier proud green garments amid a sea of gasps! Then Robbie Keane knocks out the king of france!
Or plan C...
As france beat the oppostion in the final (by cheating of course) and as the referee blows the whistle, the irish lads all run in and the King of South Africa makes them replay the game... And the irish win it 5-0 and dance with ladies as it rains Guiness from the skies...
All of these seem more likely than a replay...
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Nah, you're harsh on Fosted. Capello knows what he has, he knows what players can do for him. I have to trust him, even if it means playing Heskey.
I just don't think he's very adventurous but you can't have everything. I'd rather win the World Cup once and then get flamboyant afterwards.
Chelsea will get worse after this season as the players get older, and start to pick up injuries. United will lose Scholes and Giggs soon, but the younger fresh blood will step up, and a season or two like this will do them good. Not like they're not performing. Let's just remember where we are. It may seem like United are doing badly, but they're head and shoulders above the chasing pack still. Likewise Arsenal.
Chelsea will struggle to replace Drogba when he finally heads off, probably to Real or Inter.
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Sorry, Rooney and Giggs dived did they, Mr Liverpool? You're having a tin bath.
The only wrong penalty in the game was the one given for shirt pulling. I don't mind, but i just hope this ref at least maintains that ethic and keeps a close eye on Terry and Carragher, to name just two easy examples of the entire breed.
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94 GR, agree that Hart is the in form England keeper at the mo, for the people touting Kirkland, didn't he let 9 in last week? I know the defence was pants, but 9?
Still think that Utd don't look as strong as Chelsea, a few injuries and the first XI would struggle I think.
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I just don't see how any problem with Cech is unrelated to the clash with Hunt. I don't understand how people keep coming to this conclusion.
Cech's problem since early last year has been the timing and judgement on crosses. He comes out through a crowd of players just the same. There was some good punching yesterday for example. Also, he still goes to ground just as bravely. Surely if he had lost his bottle, these would be the areas.
However, particularly after the Czech game against Turkey at Euro 2008, and a couple of times for Chelsea (home to Bolton last season perhaps) and this season (away to Wigan comes to mind) he has dithered or just simply come and missed it.
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@110 If you're looking for a match report why not go to www.bbc.co.uk/sport and click on the football link. Then read away to your heart's delight. Nowhere does it say that Robbo will be giving intelligent or unbiased comments. It says he will say it how he sees it.
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sorry mancs, but Utd don't look as great as they have been previously. Cue avalanche.
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Hah, that's what chelski fans said last year when they were rolling high with 4:0 and 5:0 wins, but then we hit form.
It's always the same.
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110. At 5:03pm on 30 Nov 2009, Chris wrote:
Robbo Robson, what a load of bollock you talk. The things you compare teams, managers and player's to is just ridiculous. Giant panda's, banana skins. Essien, water buffalo nonsense, just simply comment about the match.
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Where's the fun in that?
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Robbo, first time I am responding to your blog - too many comments on all sorts of things to even take a breather and write on topic. I think you are spot on about Arsenal, but I am sure they are still young.
lol
I think Chelsie are going to give Man UTD a run for their money, but I have this faith in Man U, that I will believe it in May, if we do not catch up. Also, most other teams seem to have key injuries, but Chelsie... well it seems hopeless for the rest, but if anyone can unseat them, it is Man U.
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Chelsea are looking good right now, but it's the wrong part of the season; if they are still 'firing on all cylinders' come March/April then they will start to look unbeatable!
The ACON does present some 'risk' to Chelsea, the players will be exposed to cup-tie football for a week or two, (i.e. "no quarter asked or given") with some possibly emerging with injuries, most certainly there will be some tiredness evident; however once that's over with, then they could be formidable!!
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the wonderful thing about sweeping generalisations is that they are like cliche - they are often based in truth.
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Can we please stop this nonsense about the bloody African Nations.
#1 Chelsea have said transfer ban lifted, rightly or wrongly and regardless of the recession, a very rich Russian.
#2 Chelsea players missing - Essien (Ghana); Kalou, Drogba (I Coast); Mikel (Nigeria). They can't all win it, if they go out they come home, simple as. And injuries are just as likely as any other time of the season AND only two of those players are First XI.
#3 Chelsea replacements for said players (currently at the cloob lol): Essien, Mikel: Ballack, Deco, Lampard, Belletti, Joe Cole, Stoch; Drogba, Kalou: Sturridge, Kakuta, Anelka, Joe Cole
#4 Have you looked at Chelsea's fixture list during that period? Not a Big 4 in sight.
#5 The defence is still firmly in place, awesome it is, that Arsenal game reminded me of when we kept Barcelona quiet for 178 minutes, tell me how many teams could manage that?
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119. At 5:24pm on 30 Nov 2009, GenesisRed wrote:
the wonderful thing about sweeping generalisations is that they are like cliche - they are often based in truth.
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Nah, can't agree with that mate. If Arsenal fans were fickle wouldn't they now be Chelsea or ma utd fans as they are the teams winning trophies currently? yet we still sell out every home game, despite extorionate prices and often toothless performances like yesterday. Would OT be full after 4/5 seasons? Probably not me thinks.
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Fickle doesn't mean they'll jump ship, just that they'll quickly change their tune about the state of the side.
The kind of fickle you suggested is the type that used to be Liverpool fans, but became Chelsea fans because they were based in London and now had a fashionable team to support.
i'm not going to get into a "our fans are more hardcore in the face of no success than yours". Look at Tottenham - they still turn out...
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120. hcorem4lyf, good post about the ACON, I can't see it being that much of a problem for Chelsk either.
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122. At 5:33pm on 30 Nov 2009, GenesisRed wrote:
i'm not going to get into a "our fans are more hardcore in the face of no success than yours". Look at Tottenham - they still turn out...
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lol ain't that the truth.
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Justice for Costa Rica, IRELAND OUT, Costa Rica....wait
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121. At 5:28pm on 30 Nov 2009, ScotchEggsRule wrote:
119. At 5:24pm on 30 Nov 2009, GenesisRed wrote:
the wonderful thing about sweeping generalisations is that they are like cliche - they are often based in truth.
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Nah, can't agree with that mate. If Arsenal fans were fickle wouldn't they now be Chelsea or ma utd fans as they are the teams winning trophies currently? yet we still sell out every home game, despite extorionate prices and often toothless performances like yesterday. Would OT be full after 4/5 seasons? Probably not me thinks.
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And chelsea still cant get their smaller stadium filled, them being a small club and all.
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126. At 5:42pm on 30 Nov 2009, Spitfire wrote:
And chelsea still cant get their smaller stadium filled, them being a small club and all.
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Well take this from an arsenal fan. Chelsea's fans maybe crap, stay away, chav, johnny come latelies, but their team ain't too shabby! lol
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Isn't fan short for fanatic?
The very nature of the beast is to over react, praise, cheer , curse their team.
Not sure about radio, and living abroad I don't get to speak to many fans, but on this blog today and yesterday I'm of the opinion that most gooners on here are pretty grounded, we don't seem to have dilusions of what we can achieve, and were pretty gracious in defeat. AW blamed other factors, but not many on here have.
Banter is fun and it's all part of the game to "big up" your team etc.
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Re 120:
"#5 The defence is still firmly in place, awesome it is, that Arsenal game reminded me of when we kept Barcelona quiet for 178 minutes, tell me how many teams could manage that?"
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United for one, in 2008 during the semis, and you may remember that we then went on to beat 'you' in the final.
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So why doesn't Saint Arsene buy a hard b'stard? He's got plenty of cash to spend. Does Peter Storey's son (or grandson) play footie? Well, more to the point, could he run around for 90 minutes? The rumour was that Gattuso was unhappy at Milan - he'd be perfect.
The "ask Toure" comment about the Hull penalty - you see ten times worse than that at every set-piece. The Hull player (a hefty lad) was claiming a foul as soon as he felt Toure's hot breath on his shoulder. Cheating? Of course not. At this rate, Hull will definitely top the league of dodgy penalty awards this season - they've had two in a row.
West "Hanging on to a 5-goal lead" Ham must be given an honourary Prem place, regardless of how many points they end up with. The league would be far too boring without them.
Ireland given an extra place in the WC? Pathetic. The Irish FA should be clipped round the ear and sent to bed without any tea.
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If you have something resembling a bunch of leprechauns as your front line, it is very difficult for them to get goals. Need to get one or two people taller than 5' 2" or heavier than 6 stone.
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i'm not going to get into a "our fans are more hardcore in the face of no success than yours". Look at Tottenham - they still turn out...
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Two League Cup victories in the last 10 years! Its not as if winning stuff is completely alien to us, compared to, say, Manchester City.
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132. At 5:59pm on 30 Nov 2009, northernsuperspur wrote:
i'm not going to get into a "our fans are more hardcore in the face of no success than yours". Look at Tottenham - they still turn out...
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Two League Cup victories in the last 10 years! Its not as if winning stuff is completely alien to us, compared to, say, Manchester City.
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Speaking as an Arsenal fan, I'd actually prefer to see you win something rather than watch City buy it.
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It would be interesting to see how United fans act after a few years of no success, but then that's not going to happen in my lifetime so it's just theoretical.
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The Chelsea league fixture list in January consists of Hull, Sunderland, Birmingham, and Burnley. I don't think Drogba and Essien will be missed too much at the ACON.
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To the fans of all other football clubs (bar a couple) Arsenal will disappoint you by not parting ways with Arsene.
We know he makes mistakes. we know he is stubborn. But you cant ha´ve him.
so live with it.
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the ACON won't hurt chelski, they only play mid-bottom teams all month. probily a back hander if you ask me. we all know how random the fixure lists are, not.
as for arsenal's problems. same as last year, the year before and the year before that. leak too many goals, only win when playing well and not enough 'hard men'. we need a few more players like vermaelen, players who aren't affraid to get down and dirty to win games.
we'll still have enough to make 3rd. the pretenders in spurs, city and villa won't make it. none of these have had eurpean football all season, let's see how they hold up playing the manic fixure lists the big 4 have had since august.
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To GenesisRed #134:
I remember about 5 or 6 years ago during our 'rebuilding' years when we finished 4th, many of the Mancs were chanting for Fergie to quit after a run of poor form! Good job no on e listened to them. And I say Arsenal fans are fickle! Disgrunteled Arsenal fans should remmber that and realise that their team will come good. It will just take 2 or 3 decent signings from Wenger (if he finally decides to spend some cash).
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134 - typical schoolboy Manc response, completely devoid of any hint of irony, too.
ye truly are the golden calf worshippers!
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>>"There are hardly if ANY world class goal keepers around currently. Cech has looked wobbly since Hunt's clash with him. VDS is past his best, althoguh still good, definitely past his best, Reina is, imho the best of a very limited bunch in England right now."
Friedel is one of the best keepers in the PL, and would be seen as such if he played for a higher profile team. Sorry, Villa fans.
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134. At 6:07pm on 30 Nov 2009, GenesisRed wrote:
It would be interesting to see how United fans act after a few years of no success, but then that's not going to happen in my lifetime so it's just theoretical
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Famous last words?
I do admire your confidence and faith in your team GR.
But unless you have a cristal ball or god forbid a shortened life expectancy this is an extreamly bold statement. Football, like many things in life, works in cycles, a what goes up must come down principle. E.g. L'pool swept away all before them in years gone by, not so much anymore.
The impending retirement of SAF, he can't go on forever, will surely have a major effect on your club, other than that, there are so many other factors that could effect the team in so many ways that sustained success is never guaranteed.
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I was just waiting for Preach to say a prayer for GR, I wondered if you were perhaps terminal? Let's get real though, United have had plenty of periods of little or no success (including relegation), success is relative though, is second place a bigger failure for Man U than 17th place would be for Bolton? We all have different ideas of what success and failure is but there's nothing more certain than eventual failure and success! Both will come our teams' way, will we live long enough to witness it is an entirely different question!
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140. Twirlip, Friedel is indeed top. I think you could put Schwarzer (Fulham) and Jaaskelainen (Bolton) in the same boat.
Hart looks like he is improving and I personally think Given is the PL's best followed by Reina, v/d Sar and Cech.
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Hi Robbo, great blog as always!
Although, as a Man Utd fan, I wouldn't write us off just yet, in fact I also am confident that come May we will be the premier league champs - I could of course be biased but that is what all fans do and I am no exception!
Also, your point about Arsenal is right - they are too weak and need at least one decent, tough holding midfielder in the team - Yaya Toure would be a very good buy as he is not being used much at Barca and also knows what it is like to play in a team that plays similar football to Arsenal! I know Wenger does not like to spend too much on one player but I reckon he needs and deserves to buy an expensive player as he has not spent much recently and, more importantly, for the last few years they have only been outdone by this issue in the big games.
Once again great blog Robbo and I look forward to reading the next one!
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People keep harping on SAF's retirement and that Manchester United will collapse as a result. The same players will be there minus Giggs and Scholes and the management will find another top class manager to do the job. They will never stop being a top four team.
And I do think Given is the best in the league followed by VDS and Friedel.
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I bet against Arsenal in this match purely on the basis of what they've achieved so far this season.
If you analyse their results you will find that they've lost to the teams in the top half of the table, Man Utd 2-1, Man City 4-2, Sunderland 1-0 and Chelsea 3-0 and thrashed teams towards the bottom, Everton 6-1, Wigan 4-0, Blackburn 6-2, Birmingham 3-1, Wolves 4-1 and Portsmouth 4-1.
They only managed 1-0 against Fulham, true Spurs self-destructed against them but they failed to beat West Ham from a 2-0 lead.
I think Arsenal will struggle to finish in the top four this season and I've bet against them to do that too.
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did i miss something re: Almunia? why the bashing - surely not due to some perceived fault over the Chelski/Vermaelen goals?
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When Drogba can side foot a free kick from 20 yards and the keeper is not even near the ball, then the keeper is poor. Simple as that. Please go get Jaaskalinen. Surely Arsenal can afford him!
Sure Robbo - Arsenal were humiliated yesterday. Here are some stats: man for man, the Chelsea players were 10 kgs heavier, 5 cm taller and 3 years older than the average Arsenal player. Chlease rolled over my team - Arsenal! As Harry Rednapp put it a few weeks ago "these are men". I am talking about Mikel, Essien, Drogba against Rosicky, Nasri and Eduardo. A complete mismatch..
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The problem with you Robbo, is that you have decided to have a certain set of opinions about Arsenal - fragile, small-sized, neat Johnny Foreigners who don't like it up 'em, and the rest. Then you go about selectively considering data that suits your opinions.
The mid-week game against Standard Liege was very physical too. In the last 20 minutes they got quite nasty, injuring Gibbs and throwing in wild tackles. But Arsenal coped with it.
And no Arsenal did not get thumped by Chelsea. Yes Chelsea won well, hats off. But there were sustained spells of pressure by Asrsenal that kept them pegged back. It was Chelsea's defence that won them the game more than their strongmen up front.
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"They will never stop being a top four team."
Based on what evidence, 'Trini?
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As a Liverpool fan for whom the dream is probably over this season, i'm supporting Man Citeh this year. Money is the way forward.
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150 Tim, you all right mate?
That sounds like a cry for help.
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149. At 6:44pm on 30 Nov 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:
"They will never stop being a top four team."
Based on what evidence, 'Trini?
The fact that everyone thought they would collapse due to the exit of Tevez and CR7. As of now, Man U has a complete team and play together like a complete team and have been plagued by injuries for the beginning for this season yet this hasnt stopped them from winning games. If SAF leaves, the name MUFC itself will continue to attract big names and along with the players from the academy they will continue their dominance of the EPL and Europe.
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152, Trini, these are opinions not facts, I agree that Utd are a great team, but to say that "They will NEVER stop being a top four team" or "they will continue their dominance of the EPL and Europe." is just speculation and has no basis in reality. Stuff happens and things change, that is something you can count on.
Sorry, I must of missed the plague of injuries.
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Robbo
I was at the game yesterday and there really IS a big lack without van Persie. They obviously worked hard over the summer to set the 4-3-3 up and it was really starting to purr beautifully, when out go both Bendtner AND van Persie. Clearly Bendtner's not as good as Robin VP yet, but he was really starting to answer all the critics who thought he was a spoilt pansy with dodgy underpants last season. He was putting in some good shifts, scored a couple of cracking goals and generally upped his levels of competitive aggression. Shame. But that's life.
I don't agree about the midfield battle - it was even-steven.
Where it wasn't equal was up front. No question.
And Terry was awesome, sadly for Gooners.
The shame for Wenger is that all three of his big boys, Diaby, Bendtner and RVP all got injured at the same time. I did jokingly say that maybe we needed to play Vermaelen up front, based on him banging in 6 crackers in the first 10 games. Ditto Gallas. Problem is, with Djourou injured, where's the cover?? Senderos and Silvestre right now....
Didn't quite get the subbing of Song either - he was having a good game and he's the toughest tackler in the midfield right now. Maybe he was injured, maybe he's gonna say hi to Adebayor and Toure midweek?
I do agree with Wenger though that if the Arsenal players' first touch hadn't let them down, they might have got 2-3 or 3-3. They had a lot of pressing time, but didn't open the door when the had the chance.
That's football I guess.
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I think Arsenal already have a stron holding mid in Song. He was good yesterday, won the ball back plenty of times. What in my humble opinion we lacked was a spearhead like RVP that links with the attacking mids.
And against strong teams like Chelsea, I would start with Walcott and Arshavin on the wings. They might me small in frame but they make well up for it in the sheer speed and turning power.
The first two goals both came from the Chelsea left wing where Cole fired them crosses in and Sagna was unable to stop him doing so.
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148. At 6:43pm on 30 Nov 2009, Theo Logical wrote:
The problem with you Robbo, is that you have decided to have a certain set of opinions about Arsenal - fragile, small-sized, neat Johnny Foreigners who don't like it up 'em, and the rest. Then you go about selectively considering data that suits your opinions.
The mid-week game against Standard Liege was very physical too. In the last 20 minutes they got quite nasty, injuring Gibbs and throwing in wild tackles. But Arsenal coped with it.
And no Arsenal did not get thumped by Chelsea. Yes Chelsea won well, hats off. But there were sustained spells of pressure by Asrsenal that kept them pegged back. It was Chelsea's defence that won them the game more than their strongmen up front.
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Didn't realise Standard Liege were of the same quality that Chelsea are.
The point is that Chelsea have big GOOD players who can bully and fight for the ball and contain some skill(can't remember who it was but did you see the Arsenal defender who just bounced off Drogba in the box as he chased down a ball to then cross). Teams like Standard Liege don't and have to resort to nasty tackles same as some of the smaller teams in the EPL
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Woah. Robbo didn't say "owt" or "by gum lad" or whatever it is he usually litters his blogs with.
I am shocked. Shocked.
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can't remember who it was but did you see the Arsenal defender who just bounced off Drogba in the box as he chased down a ball to then cross
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Armand Traore. He is no small boy so that tells you somethig about Drogba's power.
I am not sure what is happening to Arsene in his older day's. Earlier on in his career he used to go for power and pace. This is the man who brought George Weah through, for example. Nowadays it is Vela, Walcott, Nasir, Rosicky and so on..
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#148 - And no Arsenal did not get thumped by Chelsea. Yes Chelsea won well, hats off. But there were sustained spells of pressure by Asrsenal that kept them pegged back. It was Chelsea's defence that won them the game more than their strongmen up front.
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I think you'll find that Drogba helped. Or are you backing up Wenger and his priceless "apart from the two goals Drogba didnt do anything" line?
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Trini, i'm pretty sure that was what we were thinking when Kenny left. Didn't quite work out for us. Now i'm not saying i think Man U will crumble once SAF leaves, but it's not impossible.
I agree that Song will be the answer in midfield for arsenal - all it needed was another good centre half so he didn;t have to play there. I must admit i'd noticed improvement in Bendtner also.
I can't believe i'll be the 1st to go off topic, but i told my housemates, one of whom is another reasonable Chelsea fan - about the debate as to my profession, and they found it hilarious. They even gave me a theme tune......
http://hypem.com/#/track/739590/Hercules+and+Love+Affair+-+Hercules+Theme
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Can't believe my well-thought and pretty long piece was modded, just because of a colloquial term for Arsenal (basically, add the definitive article and lose the last 3 letters)
Unless it was the comparison of Wayne Rooney to star of a trio of popular pixar movies. Either way, poor form.
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The UTD fans on here are delusional "nothing changes". One thing is evident and that is "change". Look at Liverpool, dominated the 70's, 80's, who thought that their dominace would end? UTD have looked very mediocre this year, only last week they were beaten at home by the Turkish part-timmers. It's OK beating the bottom of the league via 2 penalties but how have they done against top 4?
Dodgey against Arsenal (in fact I would say outplayed by Arsenal)
Well beatean at Anfield
Lost to Chelsea.
Chelsea stand out at this juncture and yes, UTD seem to play better after Christmas, but in essence this year it wil be different, they lack creativity and that individual who can open up a defence. UTD will finish 3rd or 4th this year, change will occur and once they struggle to make the Champions league they will fail to attract the better players.
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Couldn't leave without a word for the FAI. Once again they have raised the bar for stupidity, not to mention turning pity into contempt. Has anyone asked them how a 33-team world cup would work?
RBA - you should go into scriptwriting - you have a gift my son.
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164. At 8:04pm on 30 Nov 2009, Dwilson903 wrote:
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One flaw in the theory. Last time UTD finished 3rd, they came back, rebuilt and then won 3 leagues on the trot.
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Ah so I see the Mods have decreed it illegal to badmouth Drogba as well as Henry now then ...
What's next, a declaration about the Sudetenland from them?
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They still had the rednose general Star.
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166. At 8:15pm on 30 Nov 2009, Starfire_995 wrote:
164. At 8:04pm on 30 Nov 2009, Dwilson903 wrote:
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One flaw in the theory. Last time UTD finished 3rd, they came back, rebuilt and then won 3 leagues on the trot.
Thank you, SF. I think mr wilson is a bit dillusional himself. Struggle to get CL football??? You really must be daft buddy
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Trini-thanks for your feedback.
So you think UTD have played well this season? You did not answer my opinions on how they have done against the Top 3?
In essence OT is a lot easier to visit this year, no-one is scared anymore, even Leeds in the FA cup (no disrespect to Kettering)will not fear the trip.
In essence UTD have had all the breaks this season, numerous amounts of added time, penalty calls, manager rants, and got away with it. Surely it will come to an end? If so, 3rd or 4th place mediocracy will transpire.
Dulusional maybe, but optimistic definitely.
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Mr Wilson, injury wise- VDS, Vidic, Ferdinand, Park, Berbatov, OShea, Rooney for a couple games. All these guys are first teamers that make an essential part of MUFC. A lot of our away games we had numerous ref decisions against us, even our last game against Pompey, we should have had a clean sheet was it not for the crowd that swayed the linesman to call a penalty for what...a tug in the box???? On our away trips, the refs have been very harsh on us, but then I guess it evens out when people come to OT. Our season has not started off great so far and the performances have not been good but this is due to SAF having to change around players and positions week in, week out due to injuries and suspensions.
Chelsea is the only team to have luck stick with them and the only team I can see sticking with us come May. And OT is not a place any team wants to come, dont let anyone fool you
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Hats of to you Robbo another very good read.
Being a Gooner I was looking forward to an Arsenal piece and I am glad its you that got in 1st.
Good Evening also to the " Usual Suspects " many of whom brighten up the doom and gloom in Footy and Life On Earth.
special Hello to all the Gooners on here.
I will be back shortly to offer my views, needless to say, my SKY HD BOX did not arrive in time for me to see the clash on sunday so in this case the opinions that follow are factually based on things " i did not see " now then you cant get no more Arsenal than that.
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20. At 3:45pm on 30 Nov 2009, ColchesterFC wrote:
18. At 3:42pm on 30 Nov 2009, MrBlueBurns wrote:
15. At 3:34pm on 30 Nov 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:
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"RVP injury - did Wenger phone Slaven Bilic and apologise for Eduardo's broken leg?
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Why would he? Eddy's first and foremost an Arsenal player.
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I think he is first and foremost Dutch and an international at that.
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Are you going to tell him or should I H2H?
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Hope you don't mind me pointing out that actually it's Arsenal who pay his wages.
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I'd like to come in on this club v country argument. The way I see it is the mority of players bought by the PL clubs are international players when they come to the clubs or have the potential to become international players. The managers should therefore understand and accept that the player will be selected to play for country at certain times of the year, irregardless of the club paying his wages.
If managers don't want their players going off and playing international footballers, DONT BUY INTERNATIONAL QUALITY FOOTBALLERS, it's simple.
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I agree with the comment that the gooners could use a tough midfielder like Gattuso, I also reckon that they need taller, stronger centre back and also a centre forward. The days of Arsenal not being bullied out of matches by the likes of Chelsea and Man U appear to long gone.
Liverpool's win over Everton should not obscure the fact that the red scousers are several players short of winning the EPL. Baffled as to why Benayoun does not get more time on the pitch.
Re FAI's request for Ireland to be the 33rd team at the World Cup Finals, time for the boys in green to just accept they won't be in South Africa. Only consolation is that France won't win the World Cup (not with their present coach). Meanwhile I note no action has been taken against T. Henry for his "handiwork" (over to you Mr Blatter....). Associating "Fair Play" with "FIFA" does not compute.
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'Trini, I think you're missing the point mate, no-one is saying that Utd won't be in at least the top 4 this season.
But what you are saying is that your team will NEVER finish outside of the top 4, yet you call someone else "daft" for implying that it is possible for this to happen.
Can't you just admit that it might happen?
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175. At 9:33pm on 30 Nov 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:
The only way that I can suggest such a thing is if my team is in a state such as Liverpool is in now and there are no signs that this will happen anytime soon. People may give us flak abt playing sloppy football but at the end of the day we still grind out results without the best player in the world.
BTW we are still on track for the quadruple trophy haul :)
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Can I begin by saying:
Arsenals Title Challenge Over? Answer No!
11 Point Gap ? So What !
are Man U guarenteed 2nd Place ? NO
Chelsea best thing since sliced bread ? No did they deserve to win Sunday obviously they did other wise they would not have scored three Goals and Arsenal fail to score a single one.
and if we are now to believe we wont win the PL or CL coz RVP is out, god help all us Gooners! and can any Gooner tell me what use Walcott is?
is this guy so injury prone that he can only be used for one half of every game? Clearly some very serious questions need to be asked about both aquasitions along with quite a few others who can just about last 3 games for going of on a treatment Holiday somewhere.
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By the way lads, what are your thoughts on the Barnsley debacle? Does anyone feel that 4-1 up after 65 minutes should be enough to award them the points? And on top of that, A barnsley player who got his 5th booking will be suspended, but another who was suspended can't use that game, and goalscorers won't get to keep them. Ridiculous don't you think?
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177. At 9:40pm on 30 Nov 2009, davidgilmourthe3rd wrote:
are Man U guarenteed 2nd Place ? NO
Spot on dude!! Only 1st for us, second between chelsea and arsenal
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I haven't seen that anywhere Mojo but if those points you made are true... I agree it is ridiculous.
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and can any Gooner tell me what use Walcott is?
is this guy so injury prone that he can only be used for one half of every game? Clearly some very serious questions need to be asked about both aquasitions along with quite a few others who can just about last 3 games for going of on a treatment Holiday somewhere.
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David, have you brought these concerns up previously or are they a reaction to the way we played on the weekend.
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178, Mojo, that booking bit truly is ridiculous.
Surely it's the responsibility of the home team to make sure their facilitys are in order, if the pitch was watterlogged should the game have ever started? (ref's decision)
But because they did play over an hour surely the only fair thing to do is award the points to Barnsley.
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Unfortunately so, Bo.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_5735169,00.html
While i understand if not agree with the rules over abandonment - i think it's 75 mins before the result stands - the suspensions are a joke. The FA want to have their cake and eat it.
Also, it seems the Irish have enlisted Bono to speak on their behalf - they really don't want any friends do they?
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but i told my housemates, one of whom is another reasonable Chelsea fan - about the debate as to my profession, and they found it hilarious. They even gave me a theme tune......
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Yep that tune suits ya Mojo. I can imagine you sauntering down the street towards your girls with that playing in the background.
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Apparently this was the 1st time a ref has taken the decision without consulting the respective managers. Both Managers feel this was wrong, but the ref said he knew they wouldn't both agree. Would it not have been a great sporting gesture from Plymouth to admit they had no chance?
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Either the match is a match or it isn't. How can a booking stand when the player was booked in a match that is deemed null and void. That is a rhetorical question by the way... lol
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"Also, it seems the Irish have enlisted Bono to speak on their behalf - they really don't want any friends do they?"
Might actualy work 'mojo, he could sing at FIFA anymore, or better/worse still, he could get up on his soap box and preach to them about everything thats wrong with the world untill they couldn't stand it anymore and alow ROI into the WC just to shut him up.
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I must admit i do love that song Bo.
The clothes are definitely a non-starter though. Couldn't get away with that in the Fashion mecca that is Liverpool!
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That, H2H, is a scary thought. Could Ireland become the 1st country to have a World Cup song without actually going to the World Cup?
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Are scarves and cloth caps the go down Church street then Mojo.
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Bono is a great guy... just ask him and he'll tell you.
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189. At 10:22pm on 30 Nov 2009, themightymojo wrote:
That, H2H, is a scary thought. Could Ireland become the 1st country to have a World Cup song without actually going to the World Cup?
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Not sure about that, although this whole we were cheated so give us a replay/extra place is starting to sound like a broken record.
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BojanglesOfOz
hi there.
well ive raised the issue about Walcott a few times it just seems the guy is so how shall i put it, to fragile as i seem to recall him being out for a few weeks from a shoulde r barge where he went into the advertising boards, plus he seems to be more off than on and i wonder wether the guy is the real deal in terms of his abilty to take a lil stick in the challenge etc, having said that I do agree I would do no better but then Im not paid as handsomely as he is .
so im just wondering wether the man was as good a buy as he was made out to be.
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Not sure about that, although this whole we were cheated so give us a replay/extra place is starting to sound like a broken record.
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H2, that was as bad as anything Tim Wannacott has ever said... lol
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Stop Press : In view of events at the Plymouth v Barnsley game, the Bolton board have voted to install a very powerful sprinkler system in the skies above the Reebok.
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Based on what i see on a weekend Bo, it's either binbag leggins or pyjamas on girls,and check shirts on lads. The sad thing about the whole ireland thing is thatmost of the irish guys i speak to now are as embarassed about the hoo ha as the french were in the immediate aftermath.
In fact, where's Gaz?
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It's easy to be knowledgeable retrospectively it's true. I don't know if it is possible to tell if someone is injury prone before you buy them as youths.
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Gotta go guys. Running a bit late this morning. Catch ya all later.
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195, I don't wanna rain on your parade, but doesn't it rain there most of the time anyway Trott?
Although I must admit it sounds like a cunning plan.
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H2, yes it rains almost all the time, problem is these new stadii have good drainage so we don't get the joy and excitement of a quagmire now and then, remember those days? It's like playing on an Axminster carpet in most of the prem grounds. This sprinkler system will create a deluge of biblical proportions in a matter of minutes leading to almost immediate abandonment!
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Trott, even in the 70's I can't really remember that many games being cancelled at Highbury due to the under soil heating thingymijig. We've not always had the best teams at the Arsenal, but for some reason we've always seemed to have the worlds best groundsmen, The Highbury, and now Emirates playing surface were/are always immaculate.
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Re 201, although some of the other grounds made Woodstock look like a lush meadow.
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Evening all. I was about to tell H2H not to worry (153)I am ready to cast my staff upon the ground but perhaps I ought to keep that back for Trotter to go with his deluge. Should be interesting!
I'm now thinking a plague of locusts to replace the plague of injuries should work for you H2H.
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Robbo,
Don't you find it strange that RVP having escaped a 3 game ban for doing the same thing to City supporters when he scored at the COM as Adebayor did and Bendtner having escaped a red card for attempting to scythe Adebayor off at the thighs, we now have both of them out for more than 3 games, the Irish would call it Justice in another form.
Just to update you Robbo, Arsenal haven't found a single one of their supporters caught on camera hurling missiles and vile abuse at Stewards and Adebayor at the COM. But their PR department was quickly in action lending RVP their website to vent his spleen against a fellow professional.
PS Have Arsenal paid Brian Horton's dry cleaning bill yet.
Chelsea's 3 goals were treated with great joy on Sunday, there is Justice after all.
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203, Thank Preach, we've already had a plague of frogs, according to some. :0
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On that basis it has to be death of the first born and the FAI President demanding "Let my people go".!!!!!
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206. At 11:15pm on 30 Nov 2009, redpreacherman wrote:
On that basis it has to be death of the first born and the FAI President demanding "Let my people go".!!!!!
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He already has, and I quote;
"Let my people go".!!!!! to the World Cup"
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Honestly, they lose RVP and go winging to the press about how unfair it is to play footy without a star player. Liverpool lost most of their squad this season up untill now and no Torres or Gerrard for the majority yet do they get any sympathy, no just bullied by the press as usual. Then again what do you expect hypocrisy is all around us so why should football be the exception, sigh such is life.
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Evening all,
I bring you some shocking news. Scotland Yard have just apprehended some executives at Wilkinsons Swords UK. that are alleged to be behind a cunning plan to bring down Gillette. After messing up with Henry and Woods, the next victim Roger F. (identity protected) was conspired to be exposed as an alcoholic and a gambler.
More to follow.
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208 shanklygates5,
Arsenal have only lost RvP, yet L'pool has lost most of their squad.
You're right, hypocrisy is all around us.
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H2, remember those muddy nights at the Baseball Ground? Now that was a pitch! The Groundsmen there had to paint the lines on bare earth!
Spit, wow, it's an intriguing scenario you foretell. Perhaps illegal titanium strings in his racquet too?
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"Having postponed the original sentence, Chelsea are effectively not being punished at all."
Good blog overall, but this I disagree with. As a Chelsea fan, not being able to sign any players for the next two transfer windows is a pretty big punishment to me. The ban's only delayed- we haven't actually escaped anything.
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I thought that was the center back that retired from Liverpool? Another man they're missing!
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212. At 11:40pm on 30 Nov 2009, Swmystery wrote:
"Having postponed the original sentence, Chelsea are effectively not being punished at all."
Good blog overall, but this I disagree with. As a Chelsea fan, not being able to sign any players for the next two transfer windows is a pretty big punishment to me. The ban's only delayed- we haven't actually escaped anything.
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Thats like the UN telling Iran. Oh and by the way you will not be allowed to buy any weapons starting 2 years, but untill then its fair game.
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H2, Here's a spot of nostalgia, a look at the Baseball Ground pitch back in the 70's....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSAGJZ1lRiE
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oh by the way im more miffed we did not perform at the SOL i sorta half expected the chavs to turn us over.
rants over.
Life goes on as it were.
ignores all jibes from man u, pool, and of course the chavs as although I like Arsenal , always have, always will, i see no need to get in a lather over a game which I have no control over.
In fact no matter the team. or whos in charge of it, they all do a much better job than i could ever do.
apart from PHIL BROWN of course.
Arsenal 12 Hull 0 no extra time needed.
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H2H - your response to yesterday's defeat for your lot does you credit... next thing I know you will be a Boro fan ... as it can be hard following a footy team.
And Jack ... I need a trim.
Plus 3 points for Boro on Sat will get our ball rolling!!! UTB
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According to Russian sources significant amounts enriched uranium-235 and plutonium are now known to be missing. It is further believed that dissident groups backed by sporting money are threatening the World Cup.
This breaking news is from sources usually reliable
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218. At 11:52pm on 30 Nov 2009, redpreacherman wrote:
According to Russian sources significant amounts enriched uranium-235 and plutonium are now known to be missing. It is further believed that dissident groups backed by sporting money are threatening the World Cup.
This breaking news is from sources usually reliable
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The shocking news bit in there is how the Russians know there is something missing at all.
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i predicted Arsenal would beat the Chavs 4-1
lawrenson and hanson? eat ya hearts out I know what Im talking about thats for sure.
the previously predicted thumping of hull can be subject to change at short notice and i reserve the right as a memeber of the BBC Blogs, to alter the design and content therof of my posts.
any attempts to modify, correct or adjust in anyway my posts without my expressed permission are an infrigement of my copyright and with xmas comming up watch it, coz im skint and need the money a law suit would bring.
ohhh the joys of being a Gooner.
PINK FLOYD XMAS NUMBER ONE
Save ROY KEANNE
PROTECT and Presrve all Weasels and other Mustelidia
Republic of Ireland to go into the Europa Cup as recompense for being erm...............
Roll on the Six Nations and Rugby Internationals as well.
and thank you to sky for such a wonderfull box, now could u please give me the card so i can access all the features ive so far paid for.
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215, Trotter, good stuff, can you imagine the Arsenal or Barcaloa of today trying to play their brand of footy on that?
217, FBH, people who can't admit when their team was obviously out played are either classless blind, blinkered or *Man Utd fans. ;p
*Not all ofcourse.
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209. At 11:26pm on 30 Nov 2009, Spitfire wrote:
Evening all,
I bring you some shocking news. Scotland Yard have just apprehended some executives at Wilkinsons Swords UK. that are alleged to be behind a cunning plan to bring down Gillette. After messing up with Henry and Woods, the next victim Roger F. (identity protected) was conspired to be exposed as an alcoholic and a gambler.
More to follow.
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218. At 11:52pm on 30 Nov 2009, redpreacherman wrote:
According to Russian sources significant amounts enriched uranium-235 and plutonium are now known to be missing.
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Surely he didn't take ut to pay off his alledged excessive gambling debts and large bar tab?
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yup, you got that right, mind you, those players had a fair bit of skill too, that little flick of Alan Hudson's was sublime. Sam Allardyce (amongst others) learned to play on pitches like that, explains a lot really!
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223, Just goes to show that the lads yousta be a lot tougher back then, can you imagine any of the top teams playing on that without attaining a bunch of injuries that noone had ever heard of in the 70's
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Further allegations suggest that "D" a recent big winner may also be implicated in this wide reaching plot to destabilise world soccer.
MI5 have refused to comment but are known to be in contact with their US counterparts who in turn are looking at the world wide activities of well-known celebrity figures.
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224 No I can't and if you remember OT and Hillsborough's grounds were nearly as bad on occasions.
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" men vs boys "
Interesting and reminds me so much of my days at Boarding School in the late 70s when I as captain yes CAPTAIN of my schools rugby team learnt we were to play a two match home and away against HMS GANGES.
the first leg was at our gaff, I remember seeing the team bus, or horse drawn carriages arrive in the driveway and saw these " boys " get of the bus. I looked in horror at what I was about to face. They were hardly " boys " at all and in fact they looked well into thier mid twenties to me. the size difference was very stark. Non the less the game had to proceeed.
We happened to have had a very good Coach and he taught us the more artistic side to Rugby . as we were quite lightwieght and very fleet of foot we actually turned over the mighty Ganges very emphaticly as well.
we was well chuffed.
However the return match was to be very different. The Ganges had done thier homework well, we took to the field and i think it was within 15 mins I had my Collar Bone taken out ( i was scrumhalf ) so i was off for treatment to the nearest hospital, when I came too i notice the ward was the temp home of our fly half,both wingers as well as the full back.
We Lost by a very huge marjin. My career playing rugby was finished was not happy at all had to take up Cricket.
" men vs boys " yep I knows that ya means.
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Just as the cuckoo signals in the spring, Winters coming is announced by the call of the 'Greater Spotted Wenger'.A plaintive call of 'we can still win the title.' Sometimes the call goes on throughout the winter, until it is finally silenced by the winters end.
It was a bit like watching the annual teachers vs pupils game at our old school. Some silky touches by the pupils but inevitably overpowered by the masters.
If Arsenal lose at Anfield it's likely Liverpool will move above them. Surely he'll shut up then?
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Hello Spitfire, I tried to guess which way you were going to take the story and knowing me I've probably made a pigs ear of it. So, if I've stolen your thunder please accept my apologies.
I wish you all goodnight and pray you are brought safely through the night.
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What's the difference between physical presence and cheating? So much for FIFA's Fair Play then. Listening to Graham Taylor on Radio 5 Live was absolutely sickening - what, Arsenal needed a "Roy Keane type" to go studs first in every challenge?
If FIFA really belives in fair play, then English referees will not make an appearance in South Africa this summer. It is outrageous that this fabulous sport can have different refereeing standards depending in which country the sport is played in.
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Excellent read as usual Robbo. The celebration by the Hull City lads was innovative to say the least and Phil Brown can thank the lads for turning a painfully negative memory into what will now be considered a clever and bold celebration. Well done Hull, a thouroghly deserved win against a rather expensive bunch of misfits.
I think Man City will benefit from cashing in on Robinho; he is so individualistic in his gameplay despite being incredibly talented that I feel like pulling my hair out when he does the hard bit but fails to provide a fairly obvious pass and shoot himself instead. Selfish, arrogant, temeperamental and he always conceives the worst goal celebrations a human with an ounce of logic possibly could.
Well done Rafa, you beat all-conquering Everton. You must be a top manager after all! Chelsea in all their ugliness with swagger to win the title this year. Unless Rafa has a plan Z or something..
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Excellent read as usual Robbo. The celebration by the Hull City lads was innovative to say the least and Phil Brown can thank the lads for turning a painfully negative memory into what will now be considered a clever and bold celebration. Well done Hull, a thouroghly deserved win against a rather expensive bunch of misfits.
I think Man City will benefit from cashing in on Robinho; he is so individualistic in his gameplay despite being incredibly talented that I feel like pulling my hair out when he does the hard bit but fails to provide a fairly obvious pass and shoot himself instead. Selfish, arrogant, temeperamental and he always conceives the worst goal celebrations a human with an ounce of logic possibly could.
Well done Rafa, you beat all-conquering Everton. You must be a top manager after all! Chelsea in all their ugliness with swagger to win the title this year. Unless Rafa has a plan Z or something.
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232. At 02:18am on 01 Dec 2009, ******~Mr RAM~L.F.C. & B.D.~****** wrote:
.....Well done Hull, a thouroghly deserved win against a rather expensive bunch of misfits.
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Mr. Ram, indeed, a wonderful result but it was a draw!
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Well in between having to do some actual work and reading all the comments I have eventually caught up with this blog and now everyones in bed. Nothing new there then.
Got to agree with some previous posts in that there is nothing controversial in the blog so nothing really to coment on. Wenger = whinger. Chavs = champs 2009/10. LFC>EFC. Irish = stupid. Nothing new there either.
What's to discuss? We'll have to go off topic. Nothing new there.
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Well, even though i love reading your column week in and out, i have disagree with you on alot of things in this one. First of all, if you watch the replay without the chelsea blind fold the disallowed goal was a wrong decision as it was not eduardo, but a chelsea shirt who hit peter and further complicated things for chelsea. Second of all, chelsea did not really took control of the game until the last 30 minutes of the game and for the first hour it was all arsenal. Also, the second goal was shear luck for chelsea as it was an own goal (though i see why you can consider this me making excuses),however, the second goal does change the dynamics of the game. Finally, you mentioned that Van persie wouldn't have had such a major contirbution if he was available. Well, u were very keen to point out drogba scored 10 goals in last 11 matches, so did van persie ( he was even better 7 or 8 goals in last 6 matches). Also, if van persie was available Arsenal would have played 4-3-3 formation and not 4-4-2. Finally, i want to add that if gael clichy or gibbs would have been available, they would have tamed ashley cole and matched him for his speed.
But i do agree with you that now the title is for Chelsea to lose!!!
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Go Kettering, go Staines!
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The 2 executioners of ManU
I wonder when will the time come - if ever - the referees will do more about to refrain Fletcher and Vladic from "executing" players of their opposing team weeks in weeks out.
Apisto
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Good blog Robbo!
I agree with you re. Wenger, it's all excuses. At the end of the day, Chelsea were just a lot stronger than Arsenal and with a 3-0 victory you can't really say they got lucky. Drogba is in my opinion the best striker in the Premiership whilst on form, and his finish was of the top draw. With all respect to Eduardo he's nowhere near the level of a Drobga/Anelka/Van Persie/Torres/Rooney etc. That injury inevitably has taken a lot out of him.
Are Arsenal's title hopes over? Most probably. But I don't think it's a one horse race as many seem to think. United and Chelsea are a lot better than anyone else, but between those two I don't think there is too much difference. Ok, so Chelsea look unstoppable at the moment yet they are only 5 points above the current champions - i.e. not a very big lead. Add in the fact that this is traditionally the time of year when United go on a long unbeaten run and I feel people saying Chelsea "will win the league" are incredibly premature.
Liverpool certainly face a huge fight to get into the top 4, but I still think they'll do it. Man City are hardly in good form themselves, whilst I doubt Spurs will last the distance. the Reds are only 2 points outside the top 4 anyway, so it'd only take a small unbeaten run, and they'd be right up there.
As for Sparky well, he is in trouble. After all the money he's spent, a draw against Hull City is a very dissapointing result. I doubt he'll go right away, but he can't have long left unless results pick up very soon...
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Morning all,
The front of today's Grauniad reveals £70 million spent on agents in the last 2 transfer windows.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/nov/30/david-conn-premier-league-agents
Now,I don't know if I'm being naive here,but what is the point of the P.F.A.?Out in the real world unions support staff in wage talks,contracts etc.Why on earth should clubs pay this much money to leeches?
FBH,my door is always open for you.I do have a few regulars that follow Boro,so you'd have plenty of support
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I think on the goalkeeping front Wenger has his eyes on Hugo Lloris.It will be an extremely good buy.
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235. At 05:45am on 01 Dec 2009, Abhishek Seth wrote:
Well, even though i love reading your column week in and out, i have disagree with you on alot of things in this one. First of all, if you watch the replay without the chelsea blind fold the disallowed goal was a wrong decision as it was not eduardo, but a chelsea shirt who hit peter and further complicated things for chelsea. Second of all, chelsea did not really took control of the game until the last 30 minutes of the game and for the first hour it was all arsenal. Also, the second goal was shear luck for chelsea as it was an own goal (though i see why you can consider this me making excuses),however, the second goal does change the dynamics of the game. Finally, you mentioned that Van persie wouldn't have had such a major contirbution if he was available. Well, u were very keen to point out drogba scored 10 goals in last 11 matches, so did van persie ( he was even better 7 or 8 goals in last 6 matches). Also, if van persie was available Arsenal would have played 4-3-3 formation and not 4-4-2. Finally, i want to add that if gael clichy or gibbs would have been available, they would have tamed ashley cole and matched him for his speed.
But i do agree with you that now the title is for Chelsea to lose!!!
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I've heard this ifs and buts argument many times. Arsenal had a lot of possession yes but in football it's goals not possession that are nine-tenths of the law... ermm that might not make any sense but I'm not deleting it.
Any road Eduardo's foot was high so it was a 50-50 decision for the ref. The own goal is neither here nor there. Ask Everton fans about horrible deflections. And Clichy or Gibbs would've done nowt to combat Cashley as they would have been playing on the opposite side of the park from Cole. Still at least we agree that the odds on Chelsea screwing up from here and very slim indeed.
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134. At 6:07pm on 30 Nov 2009, GenesisRed wrote:
It would be interesting to see how United fans act after a few years of no success, but then that's not going to happen in my lifetime so it's just theoretical.
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It would also be just as interesting to try and find a Man Utd fan who wasn't totally arrogant. Although that may also be a fruitless task me thinks......
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152. At 6:57pm on 30 Nov 2009, MUFCTrini wrote:
As of now, Man U has a complete team and play together like a complete team and have been plagued by injuries for the beginning for this season yet this hasnt stopped them from winning games.
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Plagued by injuries? HA HA HA HA! That's a classic, you lose Ferdinand for acouple of games and you are "plagued" by injuries. try checking out the Arsenal treatment room this season son, then you'll know what "plagued" by injuries really means.
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Well the Eduardo 'goal' if had been left to stand would have incensed Chelsea, especially with Cech in goal.
He's had his head literally kicked in once before andwe have a vsual reminder of that incident every time he plays because of his protective head gear.
There was a massive oucry about giving GK's better protection from risky challenges after that so I couldn't really see the Ref not being seen to do something about what could have been a nasty coming together.
Basicaly damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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I think my keyboard should be given a good kicking for the typos there ...
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116. At 5:14pm on 30 Nov 2009, rooney_rooney_then+rooney wrote:
Robbo, first time I am responding to your blog - too many comments on all sorts of things to even take a breather and write on topic.
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Isn't that against the rules?
Also Gen Red - i'm not going to get into a "our fans are more hardcore in the face of no success than yours". Look at Tottenham - they still turn out...
Good point - also look at Newcastle they get bigger crowds than most prem teams and they haven't won a trophy in 40 years
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G'day Jack, how are things down Buxton way this evening/morning
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G'day Bo.Cold is the answer currently -3C.However,the big news is coming out of Oz this morning.Possible snap election because of The Liberal Party replacing their leader for an anti climate changer to block Paul Rudd's carbon exchange bill.
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The trouble with agreeing with everything in the blog is there is nothing to comment on.
United had a win so their fans or fergie are not whinging about the referee or anything. A boring blog really.
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I don't know about you,Bo,but having read last night's postings it seems one defeat means it's all over for Arsenal.Long way to go yet surely?I don't think Arsenal are a million miles away.I would suggest a replacement for Flamini is the key.The mighty O's play tonight at home to Gillingham.Isn't Starfire from there?
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#249,Bo.He's having a go this morning about the press picking on his babies that played against Besiktas.He's playing them again tonight against Spurs.Apparently 'arry is resting his players as well.I might even get a game!!!
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The Libs are in self-destruct mode again Jack. Their new leader couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery. They were like this prior to Little Johnny taking the reins... he seemed to pull them in line then ruled them with an iron fist for 12 years. When he got the boot the Libs were left pretty well leaderless... still are.
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Morning all. Finally caught up on last nights posts. The two main topics seem to have been "our fans are more hardcore in the face of no success than yours" and "we've had more injuries than you".
I think that to solve these problems every team should be given a trophy at the end of every season starting with a really big one for the Premier League winners and getting slightly smaller as you go down the leagues until the bottom placed team gets a small medal.
And to stop players getting injured a vet should be on standby at every game. If a player goes down and stays on the ground for more than 20 seconds the vet comes on erects screens and despatches the player with a bolt gun. Using this method no club ever has an injured player to complain about, they just bring in the next best player they've got.
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GO SPURS.
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Unless it was the comparison of Wayne Rooney to star of a trio of popular pixar movies
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That's Dreamworks
Catblogger - grow up - Arsenal do need a Roy Keane type (used to be called Patrick Viera) to win the ball, break up play, build attacks and chip in with goals. It may have escaped your memory but Viera played exactly the same way as Keane - not afraid to foul someone if need be, getting forward to support attackes but then the first one back defending. Both were superb midfielders and a lack of one is why Arsenal haven't won the league in 5 years
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Col, a little over the top but I agree with you in principle.
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Good Moaning...
Crikey, had a quick read through the comments as per norm... and i see Spitfire comparing Chelsea to Iran? If the UN are mad at Iran for bribing young weapons to joing thier arsenal (no pun) and thus break a contract which is not a contract but it is a contract but they cant say it is a contract but it is really for all want and effect. Then fair dues... Or if cheslea just took a bunch of british sailors prisoner for sailing to close to the Kings Road, then again... thats fair dues.
Otherwise, i think thats a bit harsh....
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And the benefit is that in a few years when all the overpaid primadonnas are gone I might get a game for the mighty Colchester
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I read about 'Arry taking a leaf from Martin O'Neil's book of management this morning. Namely 'Sod the cups because we're going for the Champions League.'
I can't say I'm too happy, especially as we know what happened to Villa when they took that approach last year :s
Ah well, I suppose this'll test what depth we have to our squad.
Yup, Gills are away, so they'll be giving out acts of charity to all comers again ...
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Bloody hell adam... for once I find myself agreeing with you... in part anyway. They do need a Viera in the team.
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Bo,you've got me worried now.Take a few deep breaths.I'll try and find the number for your local ambulance service.It'll be o.k.Deep breaths now....
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RBA,if Chelsea are Iran does that mean they will replace Ancelloti with a popular Irish manager currently employed in the Suffolk region?
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Just read the BBC Sports personality contenders blog - I reckon it will be either Ryan Giggs, Jensen Button or Andy Murray - any thoughts?
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@ColchesterFC
"I think even without Rooney Man Utd have enough to finish 2nd in the league but that might be more to do with how poor the clubs below them are looking this year"
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I've seen plenty of United games this year and without Rooney I think they'd be lucky to finish in the top four. The upcoming transfer window is critical for SAF in my opinion. He needs to get Villa because if he doesn't they may as well hand Chelsea with big shiny thing straight away. Even with him, I still think Chelsea look favourites (though I am not stupid enough not to remember that United do have a habit of running like a stabbed rat in the second half of the season and they're sure to make a battle of it at the very least).
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Adam,it's fairly obvious that Jensen will win it.When was the last time SPotY was won by a sportsman/woman that competed in a sport not shown by the beeb?I'd like it to be Mark Cavendish from the shortlist.Why is Phil Taylor missing?He has won EVERY SINGLE ranking event this year.
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Ryan Giggs, Jensen Button or Andy Murray
Jesus! They dont have a personality between them...
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@264 Fair enough point. I haven't seen much of United this season but with Berbatov, Owen, Wellbeck and Macheda I figured they should be ok. Agree with you on getting Villa though but even then I think Chelsea will be too strong. My prediction would be Chelsea by 7-10 points even if Man Utd do run like a stabbed rat-faced Neville after Xmas
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265: Because people are afraid of Darts... i mean we have a certain gold in the 2012 olympics if we add darts, but no... The Man is too afraid!
BEEB DO A DARTS BLOG!
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probably because darts isn't really viewed as a proper sport by the Beeb I would guess. Giggs and Murray do have a chance as th ebBC het MOTD for football highlights and they get Wimbledon as well so they do have a chance - but yes it will probbably be Button
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Well i'm glad for Button.... the button that changes the chanel when that god awful cack is on.
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Adam,they only view the bdo as darts,not the proper one in the p.d.c
And seeing as today is December 1st......
In this flat in Moscow lives Rudolph.It's christmas morning,the coal fire burns,gifts under the tree.Little Dimitri comes down stairs.
"Good morning,father.Merry christmas."
"Good morning son,merry christmas to you too."
Dimitri opens the curtains and can't believe his little eyes.It's snowing.On christmas morning.
"Dad,dad.It's snowing!"
Rudolph looks up from his paper
"No,son.That's rain."
Dimitri is puzzled.
"No,dad.look snow.It's snowing."
"I'm sorry,son.That's rain."
Dimitri doesn't know what to think.At this point mother arrives with mince pies and vodka.
"Mom,I don't understand.I've opened the curtains and outside it's snowing.Yet father says it's raining.why?"
to which mother replies "Well,Rudolph the red knows rain,dear"
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That's awful Jacks. In fact it's so bad I'm thinking of referring it to the Mod's.
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Do you remeber in Shooting Stars when vic reeves would tell a joke?
Well no lie, a tumble weed just blew across my screen!
You just ruined christmas!
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208. At 11:24pm on 30 Nov 2009, shanklygates5 wrote:
Honestly, they lose RVP and go winging to the press about how unfair it is to play footy without a star player.
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ignorance is blis sthey say? Arsenal (for the umpteenth time) have lost mor eplaying days than any other team in the league this season. Check out thephysioroom.com. Until then i'd do my homework before letting your lips start flappping. Scousers whinge and moan the moment any one of your team gets injured, all two of them.
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273. At 10:17am on 01 Dec 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:
Do you remeber in Shooting Stars when vic reeves would tell a joke?
Well no lie, a tumble weed just blew across my screen!
You just ruined christmas!
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The X Factor ruins Christmas
PET SHOP BOYS FOR CHRISTMAS NUMBER ONE
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The X Factor doesn't just ruin Xmas, they firebomb it :s
MR BLOBBY FOR PM!
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RBA,that's harsh.Is it because I'm a "power"man?
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Surely you're not serious Star. John Prescott would make a lousy PM
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I havent liked a song in the charts, for a very very very long time... As such X-Factor dont really bother me, so what... if it aint them it'll be Westlife of some other god awful little gobfeck... Thats said i still fink stacy is tops but danyl to win it, he is ded good! -chavinashot-
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The X Factor doesn't just ruin Xmas, they firebomb it :s
MR BLOBBY FOR PM!
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he's already had his shot as Deputy PM don't let Prescott in again
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277.. well yes it is... WADEY IS OUR FUTURE!
Premier league champion 2009!
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278. At 10:32am on 01 Dec 2009, ColchesterFC wrote:
Surely you're not serious Star. John Prescott would make a lousy PM
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The pink one with yelow spots ... geez, I let myself in for that I guess ...
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To inject some controversy does anyone thing Aldershot & Farnborough should groundsaher and change their name to Farndershot to get more fans
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RBa,I don't think we should get into a piddling contest with this.14 ring any bells?
Adam,in answer to your question and I've thought this through long and hard.
no
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Taken from today's BBC sport gossip column.......
Barcelona midfielder Yaya Toure is seeking a move to Manchester United or Chelsea after being omitted from the line-up to face Real Madrid on Sunday.
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Fifa will decide on Wednesday how to punish France striker the cheating weasel Thierry Henry over his controversial handball against the Republic of Ireland. Fifa's executive committee will consider sanctions.
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JOB, as a lover of darts... i can not say a bad thing about the Power any how... But seeing as how James Wade is an old old old freind of mine i have to give him my support... He were a question on "question of sport" on friday! Man thats just weird...
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If FIFA have any sense, they'll give that cheating weasel what he deserves.
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How long do yout hink that post will stay up Star?
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Probably longer than RBA's post as he's mentioned He Who Must Not Be Named And Then Proclaimed A Cheating Weasel, CFC
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Guys stop insulting weasels
Interestingly while Tiger Woods is insisting his wife didn't try and beat him up witha golf club he is still refusing to be interviewed by Police... the plot thickens - what has he got to hide?
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Mind if what RBA stays up I will be prodigiously hacked off.
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RBA,I mean no disrespect to James Wade as I remember your family role in his development.If/when the power's lights fade,Wade should be the one to step in.Although I do like Simon Whitlock.Man,I'd love to cut his hair!!!!
Thierry Henry gets fined,banned by fifa,it's appealed against,case dismissed.Or am I being cynical?
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Adam,about a billion$
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On to more serious matters,is anyone else concerned about Bo?He agreed with both CFC and Adam this morning and has now disappeared?Maybe he's been kidnapped by weasels?
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For the last time, Henry committed a foul. Which is not any different than shirt pulling, high tackling or hindering a goal keeper. All get you unfair advantages, all are to be punished by the on field ref only.
Even if FIFA decide to punish henry now, expect the Court for Arbtration in Sport to turn it down.
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291. At 10:59am on 01 Dec 2009, adampsb wrote:
Guys stop insulting weasels
Interestingly while Tiger Woods is insisting his wife didn't try and beat him up witha golf club he is still refusing to be interviewed by Police... the plot thickens - what has he got to hide?
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According to the reports he has "so far declined requests to talk to police". I wonder if that's anything to do with him being a multi millionaire? What would happen if I crashed my car and then declined a request to talk to the police. I think I might just get a shiny new pair of bracelets and a trip in a police car
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Morning Spit. Henry didn't commit a foul. He blatantly cheated to gain an advantage hence the fact that he has been fairly labelled a "cheat" but unfairly labelled a "weasel".
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It's all in the scanning CFC.Cheating zebra doesn't have the same ring to it
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299. At 11:10am on 01 Dec 2009, jacksofbuxton wrote:
It's all in the scanning CFC.Cheating zebra doesn't have the same ring to it
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Or theiving buffalo, for that matter.
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298. At 11:08am on 01 Dec 2009, ColchesterFC wrote:
Morning Spit. Henry didn't commit a foul. He blatantly cheated to gain an advantage hence the fact that he has been fairly labelled a "cheat" but unfairly labelled a "weasel".
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He didnt commit a foul? How else do you describe a handball?
And why else exactly does one commit a foul if not to gain an unfair advantage.
I seriously dont give a toss that the Irish are out of WC and the French are in it. Just stating it as the CURRENT rules state it is.
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I would describe a deliberate handball as the actions of a cheating weasel.
You're talking as though all fouls are deliberate. There are numerous fouls each week which are due to accidental clashes or players slipping. These are part of the game and are totally different to deliberately cheating.
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I see RBA's post 289 has finally gone although interestingly 285 and 287 have survived so far.
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Ennis, Idowu or Button for SPotY
Why is Giggs there? Makes a mockery, just like his Player Award.
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I'm with you thier capt. Giggsy should get a life time achiement award just like one of thse dreadful 80s electro bands do at the brits if you must celebrate his career... But sports PERSONALITY of the year? He has less personality than your average garden hose.
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I know that we all joke about Wenger not being able to win anything with kids but in this match it really did look like men against boys. I only watched the second half but even when Jo Cole was substituted he just looked so big across the shoulders you have to wonder what the training involves? Bench-pressing Ancelotti maybe?
The one point that I didn't notice Robbo making was the fairweather Arsenal fans leaving 10 mins before the end. I don't think this would happen at any of the other current top 5 teams, and even when Wigan were getting beaten 9-1 by Spurs their fans weren't heading for the bus.
I am glad everyone is talking about this game anyway. Mainly as it takes the spotlight off us. We are now in 5th and only 3 points behind Spurs in 3rd. Funny how that has happened when most of the last fortnight pretty much everyone has written off our chances of getting top 4 this season!!! Considering the Liverpool line is currently being led, very ably, by a 19 year old I think that is an amazing achievement. Roll on May and lets just see who the top 4 are.
NB: we lost 2-0 to Chelsea. If results against chelsea have anything to do with it then perhaps Arsenal should be worried about getting top4 a little bit more. Chelsea have certainly shown everyone how to set up against Arsenal and I think you will see most of the bottom half of the table playing the same way. Big strong players and very physical all over the pitch.
Anyway I am going back to being an anonymous suporter again and lets just keep flying under the radar.
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or skulldugerous hamster
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305. At 11:27am on 01 Dec 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:
I'm with you thier capt. Giggsy should get a life time achiement award just like one of thse dreadful 80s electro bands do at the brits if you must celebrate his career... But sports PERSONALITY of the year? He has less personality than your average garden hose.
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Sports Personality is their to celebrate achivement - look at the last few winners. Chris Hoy, Zara Phillips and Kelly Holmes are hardly the most interesting people around (I still can't figure out why Zara Phillip actually won it)and therefore Giggs becoming the most decorated footballer ever would be a worthy winner just as the wonderful kings of electro-pop the Pet Shop Boys deserved their Brit award unlike Elbow & Duffy who haven't really achieved anything
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Depends if you're talking about Henry or Kermit. I have it on very good authority that Kermit parents were not maried and therefore your terminology is correct
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303. At 11:21am on 01 Dec 2009, ColchesterFC wrote:
I see RBA's post 289 has finally gone although interestingly 285 and 287 have survived so far
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Well as I didn't mention the cheating one by name I expected it to stay ... as for yours though, I'm mystified.
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Ere, no one tipping Straussy for a SPOTY? Nothing beats beating an ozzy. To be honest i cant think of any one else more deserving (i know you may say Button, but F1 is the devil, so thats no good to me!)...
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For the last time, Henry committed a foul. Which is not any different than shirt pulling, high tackling or hindering a goal keeper. All get you unfair advantages, all are to be punished by the on field ref only.
totally true, and accurrate. the only difference is outcome.
Tiger was arguing over allegations about his private life, which are...that he's having/had an affair, with Rachel Uchitel, that caused an argument.
alternately
TMZ is reporting a markedly different version of the story, however, claiming that Elin scratched Tiger's lips up before the accident, during a fight the two had over rumors that Woods was seeing another woman. Tiger then attempted to drive away, which is when Elin hit the back windshield with the golf clubs and Tiger drove into the hydrant. Oh, dear
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Seeing as Ryan Giggs is on the SPotY long list,I'd dread to see Adam's phone bill next month.
Adam,is it because Elbow are from Bury that you dislike them.Tha Seldom Seen Kid is a superb album done without the use of computers bt 2 old men that should be in a retirement home by now.
"MORE TEA CHRIS?"
"It's such a shame when they dribble like that."
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RBA,Strauss has been magnificent this year and should waltz it
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Chris Hoy, Zara Phillips and Kelly Holmes... All far more intersting that Giggsy.
Havent Elbow been around for years and years and are now only getting a little kudos, and Duffy achieved a britt... If you cant get an achievement unless you have achieved something, you'd end up with the same successful little group winning everything year after year... I'm glad footy isn't like that!
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305. At 11:27am on 01 Dec 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:
plus, from a sporting point of view he is really there accepting the reward for Ronaldo. it is kind of an insult to the memory of the great player he was.
and yes, less personality than a sack of wet concrete
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313. At 11:37am on 01 Dec 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:
Ere, no one tipping Straussy for a SPOTY? Nothing beats beating an ozzy
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Actually being an ashed win he probably will as Freddie Flintoff did didne't he last time.
With regards to Elbow I just don't like their music - its nothing to do with Bury.
btw Neil's the Tea one not Chris and they're younger than Sting, David Bowie & Elton John (in fact Bono is only a year younger than Chris Lowe) they are still making great records, touring and will soon have the Christmas Number One wresting the top spot from Simon Cowell's cold dead hands - so hardly retirement material.
As for Tiger Woods - I don't believe he cheated but that Uchitel woman's not bad though
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I just don't agree about Henry. One incident does not make him a cheat. If we label every player that intentionally breaks the rules a cheating stoat then they would all be crying on Sepp's shoulder.
The only reason this got press is the consequence of the act, and Ireland's pantomime act of idiotic anger.
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Of course one incident makes him a cheat. If I go out and commit one murder it would make me a murderer. And maybe it is time to start labelling players as cheats if that's the only way to stop it from happening. Name and shame them in the papers and on billboards under a big headline which says cheat and keep doing it until their sponsorships dry up. Not many companies will want to have their products associated with cheating.
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Actually being an ashed win he probably will as Freddie Flintoff did didne't he last time.
i doubt it. when fred won it he'd beaten a fantastic aussie team, and played a key role. the 2009 series was basically much weaker, and strauss only stood out due to the paucity of talent around him.
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hey hey hey... Ok no Lee for the majority, Symonds sent home, no warney as he'd retired... but on paper they were still alot better than us!
We beat the ozzies. When they beat our much weaker teams they dont play it nonchalontly... They kram it down our pommy throats!
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If henry did what he did in a barcelona match against any one other than Real Madrid (or a Champs League match maybe)... It would have been a barely mentioned. Trouble is he did it on a big stage in a big game with a lot of people watching, it was the wrong scenario... Its the equvilant of breaking wind in a library...
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RBA said
hey hey hey... Ok no Lee for the majority, Symonds sent home, no warney as he'd retired... but on paper they were still alot better than us!
was comparing it to when fred won, i agree, and with your farting analogy. that is pretty perfect really.
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Seeing if I can join in the discussion even though it is off-topic then surely if there was someone from man utd that was sports personality of the year it would be SAF for setting the team up to win the league and keeping players like Scholes and Giggs going when most other teams would have packed them off by now.
It is not down to Giggs that he gets the best out of himself at this age it is down to SAF and how he uses them.
In terms of the others the biggest achievment is probably Button considering I think he had only won 1 race before the season started and it was a brand new team. However Tom Daley and Beth Tweddle should both be up there for winning medals in sports that we are actually not very good at.
Ennis, although very fit, did not break a world record and neither did Idowu. Both out. Andy Murray didn't win a major yet. Out. Andrew Strauss managed to win a series by being incredibly lucky and England not being the better team. When we dominate Australia rather than scraping past them that will be an achievement+it was on sky so hardly anyone saw it. David Haye-are you joking! He achieved much more at cruiserweight+it was on sky box office so hardly anyone saw it.
Mark Cavendish I think he rides bikes?? On road or track I don't know. I follow a lot of sport and I don't actually know who he is. Is he going to get the popular vote when people who know quite a lot about sport, like me, don't know who he is? I doubt it.
In terms of British sport I would have thought that Ronaldo was the most important player, premiership, CL final, well in other competitions etc., bagged paris hilton etc
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Button it is then although Giggs could win it as although SAF does manage him well gIggs himself still needs the skills, desire and overall ability to continue to perform at the level that his manager demands.
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330. At 12:08pm on 01 Dec 2009, adampsb wrote:
Button it is then although Giggs could win it as although SAF does manage him well gIggs himself still needs the skills, desire and overall ability to continue to perform at the level that his manager demands.
Plus the Unicorn placenta he smears him self with before each match... I heard thier is a portrait of a really old welsh footballer in his loft???
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It's true,RBA.Giggs made a deal to sell his soul to the devil for eternal youth.Fergie said "No problem,son"
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RBA, Dorian Gray?
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Didn't know thier was a cross roads in Salford??
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333, is he the doctor in scrubs?
Nah, your spot on mate...
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RBA are you insinuating that Oscar Wilde updated his story and that one day Ryan will go into his attic and his career will come to an end as the year ssuddenly descend on him (I hear Stanley Matthews and Scholesy have the same thing)
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So illegitamate frogs are against the law now hmm?
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Daley and Tweddle aren't public enough, although Daley is a good outside bet.
No-one saying David Haye. I know you can only beat what's in front of you, but he is a clunge
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RBA, I dont think it's a picture in the attic giggsy is using, i think it is Gazza!! ;-D
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Scholes needs to have kept his receipt if that is the case, Adam.
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"...stumbling United (the closer they got to the opposition penalty box the more they stumbled)"
Interesting that you conveniently fail to mention that they WERE fouled. I suspect you added this after the first draft, when - shock horror - you realised you'd gone the whole blog without a United dig. Gotta think of the popularity rating!!
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334. At 12:15pm on 01 Dec 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:
Didn't know there was a cross roads in Salford??
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It's probably been pinched like everything else
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341. At 12:30pm on 01 Dec 2009, _ceiling_fan_ wrote:
"...stumbling United (the closer they got to the opposition penalty box the more they stumbled)"
Interesting that you conveniently fail to mention that they WERE fouled. I suspect you added this after the first draft, when - shock horror - you realised you'd gone the whole blog without a United dig. Gotta think of the popularity rating!!
is it possible to criticise Trafford United without a fan like this saying it's for popularity or jealousy? maybe people identify with this BECAUSE IT IS TRUE.
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The 4-Skins No 1 for Christmas
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344 - i don't buy anti-semitic music
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Bo.Thank God.I thought the weasels had got you!!
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Colin Hay for xmas no.1
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338. At 12:20pm on 01 Dec 2009, captainlazytim wrote:
Daley and Tweddle aren't public enough, although Daley is a good outside bet.
Nah mate Daley Thompson is well past his best ...
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So's Ryan Giggs but he's on the list
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Ceiling fan - cheer up son .. im with tim on this years of glory and still they whinge!!! Some of them anyway!!
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Daley Thompson is the single most idiotic, unlikeable and atrociously arrogant thing ever to exist.
From a personality point of view, surely it'd be between Strachan (boro's one chance to win something) and Valentino Rossi (who should have made the list this year) every time
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Lol... we don't have them down here Jack... Seems they are all playing at united and france.
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Tim Boro s chance to win something .. have you seen the FA Cup draw???? Man City ... actually you might have a point???
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342. At 12:31pm on 01 Dec 2009, jacksofbuxton wrote:
334. At 12:15pm on 01 Dec 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:
Didn't know there was a cross roads in Salford??
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It's probably been pinched like everything else
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yep let the scousers into Salford for one day and they take the crossroads with them (and the cars, wheels and everything else not concreted into place)
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Morning all.
nice to read Weasels and Stoats are still worthy of mention.
interestingly Hamsters now feature.
Save them All.
Its quite amazing what drogba is capable of when he stays on his feet the guys obviously turned over a new leaf. which can only be a good thing.
I see Hull have been drawn at home to face the Republic of Ireland in the FA Vase. all that whinging was worthwhile then.
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Southgate for Sports Personalityt!!!
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Check out htis link I found to a Thierry Henry themed website.....
http://www.creepyshrimp.com/weasels-french.jpg
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FBH - is Johnson moving? Do you think he deserves a cap yet?
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Gilly - dont mention Hamsters - ive had 5 in 4 months - they keep killing each other - luckily they all look the same so daughter hasnt noticed - think they were trained by Roy Keane???
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Fascinating facts about weasels.
The weasel is a small furry mammal ( latin name mustela,) that is often confused with ferrets, or pine martins. They are rarely confused with monkeys.
The weasel is native to Britain, Mainland Europe and North America. Interestingly these are areas where the monkey is not native.
The weasel’s natural enemies include foxes, badgers and birds of prey. They consider them to be worthy foes, but then they have never met a monkey.
Weasels are well known through the nursery rhyme ‘pop goes the weasel’. Of course anyone who has ever witnessed a weasel explode will testify that it in fact makes more of a squelching sound.
Weasels do not live in trees. You are probably thinking of monkeys.
All weasels are homosexuals. They mate with the opposite sex for the continuation of the species but they do not enjoy it.
Monkeys are much better than weasels.
Weasels are poisonous. If you are bitten by one then if you do not take the antidote within twenty four hours you will die. Coincidentally the antidote is secreted only by monkeys.
Weasels can fly, they just choose not to. This is because they are lazy and shiftless and know that monkeys are naturally superior.
The word weasel, when written backwards reads "KILL THEM ALL"
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like previously stated Hull will kick on to mid table mediocrity and be around for a long time yet, sorry to pi$$ all you PL elites off but we are a team and are playing for the boss, as displayed in the last 4 or 5 games !
"UP THE TIGERS !"
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FBH... try keeping one in the cage on its own.
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Tim - looks nailed on for a move to Blunderland in January - he seems to have lost interest past few games. He is over-rated I would say - never delivered the goods last year ( but he wasnt alone in that) and he may have found his level. As for a cap - mot ahead of Downing so would say not.
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FBH,what type of hamster?Syrians prefer to be kept solitary,roborovsky are ok if they are related.Try a norfolk pet shop....
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They mate with the opposite sex for the continuation of the species but they do not enjoy it.
That reminds me, Stephen Fry was quite good on telly last night.
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Venez - good to see Hull getting a bit of self beleif back - without it they are doomed. A good time to get a bit of confidence
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354. At 12:58pm on 01 Dec 2009, adampsb wrote:
342. At 12:31pm on 01 Dec 2009, jacksofbuxton wrote:
334. At 12:15pm on 01 Dec 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:
Didn't know there was a cross roads in Salford??
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It's probably been pinched like everything else
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yep let the scousers into Salford for one day and they take the crossroads with them (and the cars, wheels and everything else not concreted into place)
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Adam,that's harsh.Wasn't it giro day in salford?
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I also hate Stephen Fry, judgemental hypocrite.
Almost complained about the weasel post, was very out-of-line.
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Which weasel post tim, there have been a few today
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343. captainlazytim wrote:
"is it possible to criticise Trafford United without a fan like this saying it's for popularity or jealousy? maybe people identify with this BECAUSE IT IS TRUE. "
What is true? Robbo joked that United players stumbled near the box when all replays prove that the penalties were fully justified (apart from Pompey's and the non-penalty for the push on Giggs). So why did Robbo feel the need to mention it?
Why a few weeks ago did he slate Ferguson for whinging to refs (in the aftermatch of the Chelsea game) but when Ireland's players blame their World Cup exit on everything-but-the-kitchen-sink (implying all kinda of secret agendas and conspiracies), Robbo changes his tune completely and backs them up?
It's vitriol or violins, depending on the team. Robbo knows his target audience and he knows how to get cheap laughs.
Contrary to what you might think, I like this blog which is why I read it, and I often find anti-United jokes funny, but why imply United players cheat when clearly they didn't?
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Jack - as ever you made me chuckle p.s. Russian Dwarfs
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There has been a mad experiment in the bowels of Colchester crossing a tabby with a weasel leading to....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catweazle
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Ceiling - "Robbo knows his target audience and he knows how to get cheap laughs."
Calm down son!!!! You really are making the point about Man U supporters being arrogant better than any other blogger.
Do you like chips???
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They usually scrap.We have 3 different types of hamster at home,syrian,chinese and roborovsky.Mice as well.They are all kept in the children's play room.As is always the case with hamsters and mice the hardest job is kicking the bloomin cats out!
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Catweazel!!! I remember that. A bit like the Pet Shop Boys??? Didnt liek it then, dont like it now!!! (Apols to adam)
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371. At 1:11pm on 01 Dec 2009, followingborohurts wrote:
Jack - as ever you made me chuckle p.s. Russian Dwarfs
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Thanks dad
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This was filmed near me.A weasel fight!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V4dPkMA58g
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Over the weeks this blog has covered pies, parmos, weazels, depression, Oscar wild and F Scott Fitzgerald, giro day, the weather in Oz, price of haircuts, and even football and the FA Vase. And thats what makes it a good blog.
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@377 I've heard of badger baiting but never weasel wrestling. Which one did you bet on Jacks?
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What is true? Robbo joked that United players stumbled near the box when all replays prove that the penalties were fully justified (apart from Pompey's and the non-penalty for the push on Giggs). So why did Robbo feel the need to mention it?
because for the last few years Man u have played host to, and defended, the worst diver in world football. and still have many players who regularly dive.
Why a few weeks ago did he slate Ferguson for whinging to refs (in the aftermatch of the Chelsea game) but when Ireland's players blame their World Cup exit on everything-but-the-kitchen-sink (implying all kinda of secret agendas and conspiracies), Robbo changes his tune completely and backs them up?
if you need this answered you should change your name to pondscum. fergie whines about tiny things that any normal person can see affect both teams. Ireland lose out to a blatantly terrible miss by the ref and you think it the same.
if you want people to like Man U, i'd stop associating with the club, at least publicly. it is folk like you that wind up other fans.
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Are you sure that wasnt ROy Keane and the Jorno whsoe mobile went off????
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@378 And not forgetting Wittgenstein who I think I'm correct in saying was the name of Schrodinger's cat
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Taken from RotW
8. At 2:38pm on 27 Nov 2009, 0ldStafford wrote:
Best blog on here Chris, just hope the posters who have taken over Robbo’s don’t come over here and start telling you what they’re having for tea and when they’re going to the toilet.
I work in Cov and my MD has a box at the Rico so I hope your team go easy on them, Monday’s are bad enough!
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Don't know what he means
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Nah it was Albert .. Albertenstein
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and it was the post implying all weasels are homosexual that i felt was derogatory.
skinnyfat catweasel was my favourite insult for a while, never realised it had a genuine cultural heritage
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I had a pie!!
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how is a post about coventry 'on-topic' at a football forum?
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re post 379.the brown one
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Apologies for the delay in that post CFC,OldStafford and I just had a cuppa
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fbh - what pic?
jacks - earl grey, lady grey, green tea, builders...what type of tea?
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385. At 1:22pm on 01 Dec 2009, captainlazytim wrote:
......skinnyfat catweasel ....
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I'm more of an earl grey man,myself captain
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fbh - pie
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Wow,deja vu all over agian.I was writing post 391 when after popping it in(!)up comes 390.This is wierd
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anyone disagree with messi being PotY?
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Christiano Ronaldo probably does... but i think its fairly nailed on!
393: I knew you were going to type that!
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Tim - you got me confused for a sec - it was the daddy S&K - it was pukker - 3rd one of my life and only started after saliva buds were agitated during a previous blog!!!!
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RBA,in answer to the questions you've telepathically sent:
yes,no,Steve Harmison,custard and hairy bikers
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More weasel action for you CFC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD22OdFpubE
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Re Henry Houllier told BBC Radio 5 live: "He didn't cheat. It was instinctive."
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Houllier launches Henry defence.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/8388335.stm
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Re Messi - cant disagree - and he is only 22. Looks like he is the first Argentinian to win:
Previous Ballon d'Or winners:
1956 - Stanley Matthews (England), 1957 - Alfredo di Stefano (Spain), 1958 - Raymond Kopa (France), 1959 - Di Stefano, 1960 - Luis Suarez (Spain), 1961 - Omar Sivori (Italy), 1962 - Josef Masopust (Czechoslovakia), 1963 - Lev Yashin (USSR), 1964 - Denis Law (Scotland), 1965 - Eusebio (Portugal), 1966 - Bobby Charlton (England), 1967 - Florian Albert (Hungary), 1968 - George Best (Northern Ireland), 1969 - Gianni Rivera (Italy), 1970 - Gerd Mueller (West Germany), 1971 - Johan Cruyff (Netherlands), 1972 - Franz Beckenbauer (West Germany), 1973 - Cruyff, 1974 - Cruyff, 1975 - Oleg Blokhin (USSR), 1976 - Beckenbauer, 1977 - Allan Simonsen (Denmark), 1978 - Kevin Keegan (England), 1979 - Keegan, 1980 - Karl-Heinz Rummenigge (West Germany), 1981 - Rummenigge, 1982 - Paolo Rossi (Italy), 1983 - Michel Platini (France), 1984 - Platini, 1985 - Platini, 1986 - Igor Belanov (USSR), 1987 - Ruud Gullit (Netherlands), 1988 - Marco van Basten (Netherlands), 1989 - Van Basten, 1990 - Lothar Matthaeus (Germany), 1991 - Jean-Pierre Papin (France), 1992 - Van Basten, 1993 - Roberto Baggio (Italy), 1994 - Hristo Stoichkov (Bulgaria), 1995 - George Weah (Liberia), 1996 - Matthias, Sammer (Germany), 1997 - Ronaldo (Brazil), 1998 - Zinedine Zidane (France), 1999 - Rivaldo (Brazil), 2000 - Luis Figo (Portugal), 2001 - Michael Owen (England), 2002 - Ronaldo, 2003 - Pavel Nedved (Czech Republic), 2004 - Andriy Shevchenko (Ukraine), 2005 - Ronaldinho (Brazil), 2006 - Fabio Cannavaro (Italy), 2007 - Kaka (Brazil), 2008 - Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal).
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Wow, So Aldershot YES to win the FA cup, NO liverpool wont finish top four, Harmison's the most over rated fast bowler, and your favoutite pudding is Custard and Hairy Bikers...
Well i'm glad i asked!
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Jack this telepathy is getting really spooky
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403. At 1:43pm on 01 Dec 2009, followingborohurts wrote:
Jack this telepathy is getting really spooky
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In fairness FBH,you are sat next to me
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1957 - Alfredo di Stefano (Spain) was the first argentinian
how did diego not win it? kind of sums up how ridiculous those awards are. never a keeper since yashin? one defender for every 4 strikers who win it.
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kind of agree with gerard houllier - twas a spur of the moment decision
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A professional footy player whose instinct is to handle the ball should be in goal :-)
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Jack - sweep the floor in that corner will ya???
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405. At 1:46pm on 01 Dec 2009, captainlazytim wrote:
1957 - Alfredo di Stefano (Spain) was the first argentinian
= correct-ish
how did diego not win it?
up until the mid nineties you had to be european to win it - hence 'correct-ish' on di Stefano
I can't believe Giggs didn't win it - he scored a goal last year, you know?
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Houllier thought Robbie Fowler was only 'chewing the grass - copying a Rigobert Song goal celebration' when he was sniffing the goalline if front of the Evertonians, not sure his view can be trusted 100%.
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Tommy - to be fair to Giggs, think he's got 100 now
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Houllier thought Robbie Fowler was only 'chewing the grass - copying a Rigobert Song goal celebration' when he was sniffing the goalline if front of the Evertonians, not sure his view can be trusted 100%.
You mean he wasn't???
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411. At 1:56pm on 01 Dec 2009, followingborohurts wrote:
Tommy - to be fair to Giggs, think he's got 100 now
this year ? that's amazing - make him Pope too !
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Tommmy tommy tommy - I think you know I didnt mean that :-)
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380. At 1:19pm on 01 Dec 2009, captainlazytim wrote:
"if you want people to like Man U, i'd stop associating with the club, at least publicly. it is folk like you that wind up other fans."
At what point did I say I want people to like United? That would be terrible (and pretty boring too). I have no problem with people hating United.
But my point, which you seem to have missed, is why did Robbo make the joke about United players stumbling near the box? Come on, answer me that. They were fouled, so why did Robbo make a joke implying that they dived?
"fergie whines about tiny things that any normal person can see affect both teams. Ireland lose out to a blatantly terrible miss by the ref and you think it the same."
Robbo's blog about Fergie came after the Chelsea match - the most important domestic match of the season so far - when the referee missed a penalty for United, wrongly awarded the free-kick that the goal came from, and then missed the foul as the ball came in to the box. I agree that Ferguson can often be petty with his complaints but in this case he was completely justified to criticise the ref (as almost every other manager does by the way). The most important match of the season DIRECTLY affected by the referee - but Robbo chooses to ignore this and concentrate on Fergie's 'whinging' instead. Contrast that to Ireland game, when he didn't criticise their reaction at all (which btw gets more and more laughable by the day). Keane, Trapattoni, Duff all imply corruption and hidden agendas but not a word from Robbo. Different rules.
Incidentally, I totally disagree with your assertion that without Ronaldo United 'still have many players who regularly dive'. The fact you say so, lessens any reasonable argument you might have.
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412. At 1:56pm on 01 Dec 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:
You mean he wasn't???
ooops - i've said too much, haven't i?
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plus not sure he has a penchant for school aged boys (apols to Catholics but the news from ROI isnt only about handling the ball ... then again)
I think this might get modded as it is in bad taste ... I agree
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Ceiling "why did Robbo make a joke" coz he would be criticised if his blogg wasnt funny ... you should here the jokes about the Boro right now - stop it stop it stop it - you are making a fool of yoursefl ... this blogg is a laff ... or it should be :-)
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Ceiling - Fergie is a bully - fact
Sometimes (most times) he gets away with it, just like top 4 clubs seem to do.
Wish he was at the Boro - too right I do. Wenger got slated above much more than SAF. ANd most Gooners were fine (H2H was very magnanimous).
Lets talk about what you are having for your tea - more chips???
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Agents fees - prem average is £88,000 per deal - and good value I think it is too
Speak later
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I'm with Ceiling Fan, at every opportunity the gutter press get they jump up and down on fergies face wearing divers boots, litteraly. Chelsea beat united and granted it was "by the rules of the game" but for chrisake they BEAT UNITED! who do they think they are, then to make matters worse, it gets "reported" in the press... then fergy, who i would like to remind you ALL is a knight of the realm (i.e. he HAS killed a real dragon!) says something, which granted, is not what the BBC would call "true" and he gets ridiculed for it... It is the same as breaking in to his house and punching him in his sleep! its not fair... And now Chelsea beat Arsenal but Robbo has to mention united because they "tried to cheat" in a footy match... well why not! Henry did it and no one has said anything! If that were Paul Scholes, ginger people everywhere would have been bullied...
Its about time that the BBC and the rest of the gutter press left united alone. Criticising someone who has achieved as much as Lord Sir Alex Ferguson Duke of Footbalshire is the same as drowning kittens or killing squirells with hammers...
I dont mind people hating united, as god will deal with them once thier time comes!
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362. At 1:03pm on 01 Dec 2009, BojanglesOfOz wrote:
FBH... try keeping one in the cage on its own
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What Hull fans - it harsh really
FBH - when did you cover F.Scott Fitzgerald as his story is one of high tragedy - hi sdescent into alcoholism and perceived failure coupled with his wife's mental illness and obsessive insecurities. He demeaned her literary talent mainly because he struggled with his own - when she published her only Novel he commented Zelda believes Plagiarism begins at home.
Her well known quote she refused to be bored chiefly because she wasn't boring" inspired the song Being Boring.
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418 followingborohurts
I stated earlier, I think Robbo's blogs are funny and I also laugh at the anti-United stuff too.
But implying that United players dived on Saturday when they didn't? Why is that funny?
I find it really amusing that you and Tim are defending Robbo. He clearly picks on easy targets to get as many laughs as possible - it's probably in his job description! I don't mind that (which is why I read each week) but to imply United players cheat? That's a different story.
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post 422,handy thing wikipedia
RBA,or even throttling weasels
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RBA - class
Adam - Being Boring - good song
Ceiling - Cristiano Ronaldo - many times - espesh v Boro and pens!!!!
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#423 - EXACTLY!
There should be no 'implying United players cheat'
WE KNOW THEY CHEAT !
Just come out and say it, Robbo! - stop hiding behind your so called 'humour' and 'jokes' ! you're not fooling anyone, y'know?
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421. At 2:13pm on 01 Dec 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:
I'm with Ceiling Fan, at every opportunity the gutter press get they jump up and down on fergies face wearing divers boots, litteraly.
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Now there's something I'd pay to see. The gutter press wearing Cristiano Ronaldo's boots jumping on Fergie's face. Where do i buy a ticket for that show?
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Ceiling - Fergie is a bully - fact
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Is that a RAFA FACT or a proper fact?
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424. At 2:19pm on 01 Dec 2009, jacksofbuxton wrote:
post 422,handy thing wikipedia
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Didn't need wiki for the Being Boring quote (as it's printed on the record sleeve of the song which I've owned for 19 years) or most of it although I did nick the plagiarism quote off there
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421. RedBlueArmy92
Very funny :)
But again, you've missed my point. I don't have any problem with the press criticizing United when it is justified, which often it is, BUT ROBBO IMPLIED UNITED PLAYERS CHEATED WHEN THEY DIDN'T. I've put it in capital letters for you, so hopefully you don't miss it this time. Why did he do that? In fact, Robbo, is you're reading, perhaps you can answer that. I think I know the reason, I'd be interested to hear your version.
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Avram Grant was pleased with his new side's efforts against a somewhat stumbling United (the closer they got to the opposition penalty box the more they stumbled).
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Ceiling Fan,Maybe the reference is to Wayne Rooney and the first penalty.I'm not saying he dived,but he's due to pay his next instalment on the 14th of the month
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Ceiling, i get where you coing from but like my post, it was just a joke... I dernt think yous can take anythink too serious on this page lad...
But in seriouness, Man united, what a bunch of cheats!
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@432 Don't you mean a bunch of dirty DIVING cheats
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433. At 2:31pm on 01 Dec 2009, ColchesterFC wrote:
@432 Don't you mean a bunch of dirty DIVING cheats
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Dirty,diving,weasel murdering cheats
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From the BBC sport website....
"Fifa secretary general Jerome Valcke rules out any chance of Ireland playing at 2010 World Cup"
Thank god for that.
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But they didn't cheat!!!?!!!!
Damn, I bit.
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FIFA
Fraudulent activity
In
Football
Acceptable.
Screw them with a rusty bargeploe.
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nearly,Adam.nearly for the 1st time clicked *
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But didn't
DEATH TO THE PET SHOP BOYS
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Anagram of Manchester United
MU - in red ten cheats
FACT!
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440. At 2:51pm on 01 Dec 2009, TommyOnion wrote:
Anagram of Manchester United
MU - in red ten cheats
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Or.......
Stained hen rectum
Scum need the train
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MU - ten cheats in red
scans better
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There are also several that use the C word but I think they might get me banned from the site forever
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mechanic angst is my fave anagram
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Liverpool - 'Lo! Evil Pro'
Gerrard or Ngog perhaps.
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what's a weasek?Have they been at it again at the Huntingdon Laboratory
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#446 - typo
I mean LFC 11 cheating weasels although may be a bit harsh on weasels
But they are weasels led by a weeble who keeps wobbling but won't resign
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Maybe w e a s e l was added to the profanity filter and that's his way of getting around it.
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What did I miss? Who cheated? Was it a Utd player?
If Robbo wrote it, it must be true, otherwise why would he post it?
I never watched the game but I saw that they cleary cheated. FAKT.
FBH, I wasn't magnanimous, I hardly touched a drop!
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444. At 3:00pm on 01 Dec 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:
Ten cheats? thats harsh Onions!
Thier are 11 men out thier cheating week in week out, and they deserve equal praise!
i thought ten would be fairer - either you pedantically point out the keeper doesn't wear red or you excuse Giggsy - cos he's great - he scored a goal last year, y'know?
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443. At 2:58pm on 01 Dec 2009, ColchesterFC wrote:
There are also several that use the C word but I think they might get me banned from the site forever
LOL! - i just found a beauty but it wont let me post it ! very apt though.
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I learned something interesting on Top Gear earlier ... there's a town/hamlet in the Orkney Isles called Twatt
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@453 If you post it with **** instead of the word I think we'll all understand what you mean
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it's a bit like this
Chite renamed Sunt
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A Cunning Stunt indeed Tommy ;)
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454. At 3:06pm on 01 Dec 2009, Starfire_995 wrote:
I learned something interesting on Top Gear earlier ... there's a town/hamlet in the Orkney Isles called Twatt
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There are also towns called Muff, Cocking and Titty Hill
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457. At 3:09pm on 01 Dec 2009, Starfire_995 wrote:
A Cunning Stunt indeed Tommy ;)
let's see if Mad Baps can figure it out... ;o)
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458. At 3:10pm on 01 Dec 2009, ColchesterFC wrote:
454. At 3:06pm on 01 Dec 2009, Starfire_995 wrote:
I learned something interesting on Top Gear earlier ... there's a town/hamlet in the Orkney Isles called Twatt
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There are also towns called Muff, Cocking and Titty Hill
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There's plenty of interesting names abroad too.
Bald Knob, in Arkansas, for instance, Brest and Condom in France.
And then there's a certain Austrian town made famous by Graham Norton I'll definitely not get away with saing on here.
Seven letters, begins with 'F', ends in 'G' and no, it's not 'Fooling'
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Vile Ol' Pro play their 'football' at Fail Den.
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Speaking of cunning stunts, the poster that suggested the gelled tumbler should get the SPOTY as he bagged Paris Hilton, well, if that's the qualification for nomination, the Beeb will need a bigger studio.....
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@460
And if you go further afield there's.......
Bald Knob (Arkansas, US), Bloody Dick (Montana, USA), Bastard (Norway), Bobbing Head (Australia), Intercourse (Pennsylvania, USA)
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Wet Beaver Creek is in Australia ... wonder if Bo lives anywhere near there ...
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Trotter, bagging Paris Hilton would probably get you a SPOTY something or the other anway.
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I bet you get a lot of Bobbing Head action at Wet Beaver Creek
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In terms of strange names,there is a beautiful little village in the south of france called C'est Uous.Very popular with folk from Essex as they go in summer frquently.They like it in C'est Uous
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I wonder how much of this will remain untouched by the weasel brigade.
Ah well, geography's geography mods :P
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You're all writng a bunch of 'Robbo'.
There is a place in England called Fingerin Hoe though.
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H2, fair point, that was a destination to visit early or never!
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The Hilton Empire has grown and been spread across the Globe.
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Apparently The Paris Hilton in France is most accomodating although can be costly, just don't forget your video camera.
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Here's a nice place to visit;
http://img.groundspeak.com/waymarking/display/1ca5aa11-8289-4f71-a654-cef448e34e76.jpg
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They have villas there as well H2H.And a good afternoon to you as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px4vOXoc1ck
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These ones may not be here for long
http://clairelight.typepad.com/atlast/images/cocksrudebritaintiff.jpg
http://www.weimax.com/images/Italy-Germany-2006_Bastardo_City.gif
http://www.orble.com/images/puke.jpg
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This is my favourite from just down the road from me....
http://www.comedy-zone.net/pictures/signs/signpost26.htm
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CFC, Ssshhhhhh, don't tell anyone.
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CFC,that one's a blast.If it was discovered,would there be much of a fall out?
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Finally, if you're ever in the good ol U.S. Of A. be sore to visit these places
http://www.alternativereel.com/includes/top-ten/display_review.php?id=00012
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If you are in County Durham you can visit the village of No Place
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Well... it has been abit slow on here this afternoon...
We are facing the Daggers tonight, away! Bit of a history between us, always a good match... I get the felling were in for a beating, as thier a damn hard side to play... But weve been tighter than a meiser at the back as of late so we could be in thier like swin wear if were quick off the break... Also first starts for a couple of new boys... One lad was an Ozzy int. at under 20s, weve pinched him from Reading for a month... If we grab a win and a few above drop points... we could be back in the play off zone!
Come on boys!
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RBA,this new lad,did he play with Black Sabbath or when Ozzie went solo?
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Any thoughts on this 5 ref system, to my ignorance it has been trialed in Europa legue thus far... FIFA are looking to have it inplace across all competitions from as soon as the WC...
All they need is the fat bloke from the pub... no matter what pub you watch footy in there is a fat bloke who know eactly what should have happened...
Anyway 5 refs... they do it Europa league (Ngog, take heed son!)
http://msn.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_5736814,00.html
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RBA, I think the extra refs behind the goals is only a baby step in the right direction, but it does reinforce the idea that it's only cheating if it happens in the box. What about all the fouls, handballs, dives etc, that go unseen on the rest of the pitch? Or is that not considered punishment worthy anymore?
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The first game that Everton played in the europey league featuring 5 officials still had David Moyes grumbling about something they'd missed.Best of luck tonight to the shots,Bo's O's ,blog Vale and all other blog teams.Apart from Man Utd of course.(that might keep Adam late at the office!)
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H2, it's an impossible puzzle! Maybe 4 linesmen so there's one on each side of the pitch in both halves and for all off-side calls, both flags have to go up? That'd be fun. Or....200 referees assistants surrounding the pitch and 6 refs on it, all miked up to one another! Or, turn a 90 minute game into a 14 hour extravaganza where every passage of play is reviewed and discussed by all the officials in a huge room with a big table and replay monitors covering the walls and an unlimited supply of juice and cookies. Sounds too much like the NFL already!
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One of the most biased blogs I have seen towards Chelsea around. A more neutral persepective would be nice Robbo.
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Hey Robbo - whats our prize if we get to 5 TRPs on the bounce????This one seems to be making decent progress, apart from the one or two moans from supporters of the two best teams in the land???????? They wanna trying following our lot .... :-)
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~487 Oliver. - I dont think Robbos blog was biased towards Chelsea(I am an admirer of both Chelsea and Arsenal but a fan of neither. Robbo was perhaps brutally honest but I dont detect bias. Which bits were not true Oliver?
~488 I'm sort new to this followingborohurts - but what is a TPR?
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Hi ALi - took me a while - appraently its Thousand Robbo Posts :-)
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488. followingborohurts
Just to clarify for the umpteenth time, I wasn't criticising Robbo - or indeed anyone else - for daring to have a go at my team, I was questioning why he should imply that United players dived on Saturday when clearly they didn't.
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Arrrrr (and thats not aimed at Aaarrrggh) - let it go!!! :-)
p.s. Ronaldo was a cheat on many occassions ... Im going the Battle Cruiser toight to watch your lot v Spurs ... I look forward to watching your team play the game without a hint of cheating e.g. grabbing a shirt, exagerting a fall or even, god forbind, claiming a throw in or corner or goal kick that clealry isnt
p.p.s Back to Ronaldo - he certainly dived several times in the box playing against the boro - agree/disagree???
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thanks followingborohurts - I have just got us another post nearer the TPR target then. I think Im getting the hang of this already.
By the way I also think the quality (as well as the quantity) of the blogs here are pretty good with a lot of humour and not too much biased hypocritical moaning. Or am I just naive?
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Hi ALi - its quite an enjoyable experience and good fun - and if you listen to adam, H2H, jack, colchester, rba and tim and lots of others - you (like me) may even learn spomething, e.g. Being Boring by Pet Shop Boys has a link to F Scot Fitzgerald. No use to me but intersting in any event =- a bit like this blog :-)
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Ive committed a sin - called a certain brazillian ex man u player a cheat !!!! DFOnt do it :-) but he did dive for pens v the boro!!!
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Portugese- just trying to keep mods at bay
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THE CURSE OF BLOGDIGNAG BE UPON HE WHO WRITETH THE 1,000TH POST.
In an attempt to cut some of the drivel and get back to a manageable 7/800 posts I am invoking my gypsy ancestry thus:
1,000th poster- "May your team ever wander over the face of the earth and never win away from home; may your beer be foul and may the men with dark moustaches forever gob in your kebab."
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....and the same goes for the 500TH poster....
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hi followingborohurts - I have seen many of the blogs by the guys you mention - some were hysterical and others took me a long time to comprehend (lack of a classical education I fear) but I usally got there in the end.
thanks for the intro I will join in again when the I feel the urge.
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It's a minefield of contradictions. Aaaaaargh!
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