Rafa revived
Well done, Rafa. Well done, son. I cherished his performance on Sunday.
I kept thinking, ee, that's the last time we'll see him with his cub reporter's notebook. That's the last time he'll do that funny dance with his index fingers. Purslow, Hicks and Gillett had made his demise even more inevitable by publicly backing him. And Gerrard and Torres weren't fit.
On the other side stood the wily Ferguson, chewing away frantically like a grazing water buffalo on fast forward and eyeing up the referee's waistline in the hope of finding something to talk about other than the tripe his team has turned out.
And Rooney was in the side, unsurprisingly considering the Old Trafford mouthpieces were assuring us how doubtful he was for this game.
Vidic completes an unwanted hat-trick
But then Fernando's highlighted barnet trotted out on to the park after all, and you could see Nemanja Vidic turn from a stout workman in sturdy boots into a flighty trollop in seven-inch heels. I've never seen a top quality defender so terrified by an opposition number nine (even an 80% fit one).
His efforts to stop Liverpool descended from something rugged to challenges so lame not even Dick Dastardly and Muttley would've stooped to it. That's three red cards in three appearances for the Serb. Next year they might as well start running his bath at kick-off.
United were rubbish, mind you. As bad as Liverpool have been. Fergie said as much, even though he still saw fit to direct some barbs the way of the ref.
You can't see his team bagging the League or Champs League this season. Rooney wasn't near his best and Man City must be thanking their lucky stars that they didn't scupper the Berba bid during the last winter transfer window.
I've been buying the 'he just looks lazy 'cos of the way he plays' argument for a while, but I've come to the conclusion that young Dimitar looks lazy because.... he IS lazy. Not languid or nonchalant. Lazy. Half-arsed. And not worth £30m of anyone's debt.
His replacement got the usual tedious stick. I know there's no love lost between the two clubs but why Liverpool fans can't get their heads around Owen trying to resurrect a crumbling career at United is absolutely beyond me. The least they could do is say nowt. A better option would be to give him a nice round of applause for winning them an undeserved FA Cup in 2001. Or buy him.
Hell you had the mighty rear of Robbie Fowler squeezing other squad members off the bench a while back (Another of Benitez's less thought through acquisitions). You'd have thought a fit and firing Owen would be have been welcomed back into the Anfield fold with open arms.
To me, it's not the same as, say, Sol tripping across North London, or Tevez's billboard-enhanced crossing of Manchester. That's inviting flak. Owen had long since left Anfield and until Ferguson stepped in, he'd nowhere to go.
Ince got the same stick when he joined Liverpool from Inter Milan. I mean so what? Your club flogs a bloke and years later, you still expect him to only play for clubs that meet your seal of approval? Nonsense.
Still. Fans will be fans. And all them jeers and boos that turned on Rafa last Tuesday were forgotten as Pepe Reina Adebayored it across the Anfield turf to celebrate a quality finish from Ngog. (Now there's a phrase I never thought I'd ever use, like: 'what a quality performance that was from John and Edward'.)
Incidentally, can anyone get me into the X-Factor backstage area? My plan is to don a hairdresser's disguise, gel them freaky twins' hairdos into sharp points and poke each of them with the sharpened hair of the other. It'd be prodding someone with the most annoying pencil in the world. Do get in touch if you can help.)
Owen was not welcomed back with open arms
But Liverpool deserved their victory, played well, and if Torres' groin stays intact, the climb could continue. It's a big if, mind.
And if Sunday's match proved owt, it was that neither club has enough going for it to win a title this year. I am becoming more certain with every passing week that Chelsea will lift the Premier League trophy come May - in fact possibly even before May.
Neurotic Blues keep bleating about the African Cup of Nations of course, but Drogba, Essien and Mikel will miss away games at Hull and Burnley and home ones v Sunderland and Birmingham. Hardly taxing when you think that Chelsea's squad is deeper than a Tony Pulis frown.
Hassungotta Kalou will be in Africa too which can only help the Stamford Bridge cause. I know he bagged a brace in midweek but the lad clearly has no idea where the ball's going to end up after (and if) it's connected with his feet.
In the meantime, we welcome Gordon Strachan to the promised land. May the smog that surrounds you be kind, may your inhaler never run out, may our terraces fill as if in the grip of Juninho-fever and may we stop conceding spawny last-minute equalisers without which we'd be top of the bloody league! I think he'll do well.
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Well said Robbo especially the Owen and Strachan parts. The Kop can blame Rafa for one of their idols heading to Manchester.
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And some lol worthy statements too.
'Next year they might as well start running his bath at kick-off.'
'But then Fernando's highlighted barnet trotted out on to the park after all, and you could see Nemanja Vidic turn from a stout workman in sturdy boots into a flighty trollop in seven-inch heels.'
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Unfortuantely so true given his current record -
BTW RBA do you have the old Electro series of albums, 1, 2 UK electro etc that came out in 1981/82
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!000 comments on you're last blog, surely some kind of record, congrats for that and of course for the signing of WGS, I think he'll do well for your lot.
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Good blog Robbo
I believe Strachan will do the business for your lads he is a quality manager. Cant wait for his legendary post match comments aswell.
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Well Robbo, a tad late with this as most of it has already been covered in great deal on your previous blog and others but I suppose it was always likely to be your chosen topic given the weekends action and I would agree on your assessment of the Owen reception.
Personally I wasnt overly shocked by the result. I suspected a draw before the game which possibly would have been a result both teams would have settled for given the circumstances but wasnt as shocked as some by the Liverpool win. Partly because I think those games tend throw up a different level of performance and partly because while Liverpool have been poor, Man Utd havent exactly been great themselves but have been grinding out the results which has been the difference.
Have to suspect the Spaniards would be favourites to capture the Champions League but wouldnt rule out Utd yet from league based on that performance. At this rate of ruling teams out based on single weekends you will be left with Villa as favourites for the title.
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sorry Robbo - afraid this was all discussed in posts 500 - 1100 of the old blog...you're bigger than balloon hoaxes!
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Robbo wrote,
"...and may we stop conceding spawny last-minute equalisers..."
I think after last week all us Arsenal supporters will be sharing that sentiment.
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Ee that were reet champion Robbo mate... Good read fella, i wonder if Gaz and Tommy have any opinions on this subject? haha...
Adam, love how we have now transfered a convo blog-to-blog... mate i have a room at my flat and my parents entire loft all taken up by my records... I was a DJ, producer and dedicated crate digger for a long LONG time... So the chances i do have them, but i just am not sure...
And as others have said... well donr on gettin past the 1k mark... well actually you only posted like 4 times...
Gaz, Adam, H2H, Spitfire, Starfire, Trotter, TommysO&B, JDR, CaptainLazyTown, denis and everyone else... Well done... Robbo would be Now't without us...
Joe, how'd Kidderminster do?
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JDR,how did Kiddy get on at the weekend?
As for last minute equalisers...if Ipswich continue to gift points away in the 90th+ minute we'll go down faster than Torres/Rooney (delete as appropriate)
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Well done Robbo, you summarized in a 5 minute read what took the rest of us two days. It'a rare position of power and influence you hold and you set a fine example of how to stay on topic!
How is it still smoggy there though if all the factories have shut down? Where's the smog coming from? Is it blowing in from some distant haven of industrial activity?
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right then....um....good work, gents! a record low in comments after that exhaustathon - to be expected, i suppose.
'til Friday?
open wide for some compelling Carling Cup clashes - yummy!
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#7 - Denis is correct so let us talk about other football topics or old 80's hip hop records and different methods of discovering extra-solar planets or even -
Yes GARY NEVILLE for United & England. - O'shea was rubbish on Sunday and so was Glenn Johnson
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For the umpteenth time - seeing as now you as well as McNulty and countless others don't get it
Owen refused to sign a new deal tried to run down his contract at Anfield (claimed he couldn't sign because his agent was on a 12 month sabbatical) and leave on a Bosman. Rafa wanted him to stay but Owen wouldn't sign a new deal and because he'd got his existing contract down to 12 months it was a case of sell now for £8m or lose him the next year for nothing.
He left for half his value and we won the European Cup without him. HA-HA !
12 months later having been unable to oust Raul & Ronaldo from Madrid's starting 11 (shock horror !) he needlessly feared for his World Cup chances (Sven was always going to pick him) and wanted to return home to secure that England spot.
Liverpool/Rafa were happy to have him back. Newcastle offered £17m, Real Madrid went - '£9m profit in 12 months?, thankyouverymuch !' Liverpool went 'hang on, we're not giving you £9m to get our own player back'.
Owen should have told Newcastle he wasn't interested and Madrid would have been forced to do a deal with Liverpool but he didn't, he agreed to join Newcastle for a mega salary at which point the only way he would come to Anfield was if we'd matched the £17m price tag - that was never going to happen.
For that reason he was jeered whenever he returned to Anfield with Newcastle (though not with the same venom).
Having screwed Rafa/us over twice there was little chance Benitez was going to go back to 'buy' the injury prone striker a third time.
So he joins Man Utd and assorted hacks/pundits/bloggers expect us to give him a hero's welcome?
utterly clueless
Tevez was only ever on loan at Man Utd, Owen was at Liverpool from the age of 10, if he didn't foresee that he was due that kind of reception on Sunday then it merely confirms what many fans have said about him over the years - when it comes to football the only thing Michael Owen cares about is Michael Owen.
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How is it still smoggy there though if all the factories have shut down? Where's the smog coming from? Is it blowing in from some distant haven of industrial activity?
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The populace of Sunderland and Newcastle employ carbon capture techniques and then ferry the smog down the A19 before releasing into teh its natural habitat
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14...well said TommyO. He's the epitome of a mercenary footballer, nice lad though.
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What newspaper do you read Robbo - and be veeery veeery careful how you answer as you will be judged forever?
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We are constantly discussing in college if newspapers are still relevant because they can only recycle news that has already been on the internet or TV.
With the fact that Robbo has just recycled what we discussed in 1000 odd posts the question needs to be asked...
Is Robbo still relevant??
Sorry Robbo, only joking.
However the SAVE RAFA campaign was a complete success and I still am sticking by my Pool outside the top 4 prediction. That's not joking.
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What is it that certain people in the media are so blind to what most fans think. We keep being told that fans are what make the game, and it is the fans of both Liverpool and other clubs can see in Owen that leads them to believe he deserved a good booing.
Owen could have stayed at Liverpool in the summer of 2004 but refused to sign a new contract that Benitez offered him. Liverpool were as good for Owen as Owen was good for Liverpool.
Then, five years later when Owen is looking for somewhere to boost his World Cup chances, he thinks that Liverpool should go out on a limb for him? And when they don't he choses Man U!
I can completely see why he was booed. Complete self interest from England's Michael Owen.
As for Chelsea, I hope people aren't suggesting that this squad of pensionable are actually going to win the league....
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Goalless thriller against Fleetwood Town in the FA Cup qualifying
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Leave poor Michael Owen alone.
He decided to finally go to a club with a chance of winning something.
Granted a Carling Cup medal might be beneath him but still.
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JDR,Sorry that Buxton couldn't beat Stourbridge on Saturday in the cup qualifier,however we'll try again this Saturday in the trophy.
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Gotta say I agree with TommyO, (14), Even if it was the right/best move for Owen to join Man Utd, surely such a reception was to be expected.
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pretty much agree, TOnion - can't remember who mentioned it, but there are certain rivals no player should ever share time with ('gers/Celtic, Arse/Spurs, etc.) and not expect cries of traitor.
if he weren't an England legend (somewhat undeservedly, imo), no one would be sympathizing with him.
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I have no constructive comments to make at this time.
i will thus read only.
shine on all
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I agree with Robbo about Owen - what exactly does he owe Liverpool? He scored many goals for the club over a number of years and almost single-handedly won the FA Cup for them in 2001.
I believe he actually supported Everton as a kid - or did I dream that?
Would have been interesting to see his reaction if he'd scored.
Many players 'run down' their contracts in order to negotiate transfers to other clubs whether that be for more money, better chance of trophies or just a new challenge. That's the rules since Bosman, it's business - get over it.
At Sheff Utd, Michael Brown did this a few years ago, and went to Spurs for a cut price £500,000 as he had 6 months left on his contract and wasn't interested in signing a new one.
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#26 Sackisax38 wrote:
I agree with Robbo about Owen - what exactly does he owe Liverpool?
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But Robbo had said 'You'd have thought a fit and firing Owen would be have been welcomed back into the Anfield fold with open arms.'
Owen had his chance to sign in 2004. He didn't take it which tells you what he thought of the club.
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I didn't like Liverpool when Owen was there. I felt he was very single minded and didn't really work for the teams cause. If you watch Torres, you see that if he is unsuccessful by playing off the shoulder of the defender, then he will drop deep to pick up the ball and hold up for Gerrard and the wingers.
Owen didn't do this often enough (especially in his last season with Liverpool) which is why I was very happy he left.
I feel that Liverpool fans shouldn't boo Owen because as soon as Owen left, Liverpool were the champions of Europe! Cisse may not have been as good a finisher but he worked alot harder for the teams cause. Liverpool would never win the Champions league with Owen in their first team because the big clubs would nullify his threat with ease. Effectively reducing your team to 10 men.
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Surely all footballers look after their own interests?Owen was offered daft wages by the Barcodes,so why not take the cash?For them it's just a job.We might all be one eyed over our clubs,but how many of us would take another job for better money?
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28. At 3:03pm on 27 Oct 2009, Amanbro wrote:
Cisse may not have been as good a finisher but he worked alot harder for the teams cause
Seriously - Djibril Cisse ? He could teach Berbatov a thing or two about being a lazy waste of space !
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I have a constructive comment to make.
Arsenal blew a lead again hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
but fair doos to the hammers it was on the cards we would have a minor blip against a side in the bottom three, my only joy was that it was not against hull *hity.
Arsene still has his job, the surporters ( well the ones I know) are behind him 100%
ohh and on topic. well played pool and i am glad the save rafa campaign was a success, however judgeing from the outbursts after the defeat by team Lyon i wonder how long it will last.
end of constructive input.
shine on u lot.
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Gaz, fair point there as he's already made one of the most memorable of Manchester derby games even more memorable. So he's already a UTD legend! Beyond that though, not much to shout about just yet. It would help his career if they release him to Bolton on loan in January. He'd get great service alongside KD.
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sorry I meant to say city but the c key is missing from my querty keyboard.
The small " s " is in no way to be construed that i have no respect for the club.
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1035 in previous blog. No, please nooooo. Cahill had a release clause in his contract that if anyone came in with an 8 million quid bid he could leave but in his new contract that's been eliminated which is why you hear all the talk of 20 or 22 million. So, NO, Cahill is under contract and should not be permitted to replace Rio at ManU or anybody else's failing centre-backs anywhere else. Please Meggo, if you're still reading Robbo, don't be tempted, he's carrying the already fragile defence. Replacing Rio in South Africa would be a far more reasonable and readily accommodated request.
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I doubt Owen will really have cared too much about the booing. As an Everton fan, he demonstrated he doesn't care too much about allegiances when he joined Liverpool as kid - very sensible, gave him a far better chance of success. Likewise his move to Real where he demonstrated the ability to score well in another league, but didn't sell enough shirts for them to keep him.
Going to United was a golden opportunity for all concerned. And god knows Liverpool fans would rather have had him for free to back up Torres than see him in a United shirt. No wonder they're bitter and resentful.
There is a marked difference though, between his move to United, and the likes of Tevez who openly moved direct to rivals purely for the money. He doesn't deserve coining, but he does deserve abuse.
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Robbo: "Ince got the same stick when he joined Liverpool from Inter Milan. I mean so what? Your club flogs a bloke and years later, you still expect him to only play for clubs that meet your seal of approval? Nonsense."
Football fans all over, that, Robbo.
Being a rugby League fan, we at Hull KR had a player called James Webster who was unfortunately released because of a shoulder injury. He then saigned for our arch-rivals Hull FC and played against us in the last game of the 2008 season - he received a round of applause and Hull KR fans chanted his name throughout the match.
Compare that to football and it is an entirely different ball game (sponsored literally by Jamie Redknapp!)
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I don't think the distaste for Owen is as much for going to Utd as it is for the manner in which he left. He was refusing to sign a contract and he forced the club into a cut price deal last minute at a time we needed him the most. Benitez was convincing both him and Gerrard to stay. Gerrard did and he left us with Baros, pongolle, Mellor and Cisse as strikers. I also think that's the reason Benitez never re-signed him, he hasnt quite forgiven him for that one.
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a sad day for all football because Southend are threatened with administration.
Funny, when Liverpool and Man U owe £1 billion of debt that we get done for around £200k, but that's football.
Whip round anyone?
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#27 - Yes welcomed back to do a job.
You said it yourself pal in post 19 'Liverpool were as good for Owen as Owen was good for Liverpool' so that would suggest that you agree with my comment that Owen doesn't owe Liverpool or it's fans anything.
Let's not forget that if a player isn't performing or if the money is right then clubs have no qualms about selling our heroes from under our noses, but we still go back every week to cheer on the next hero.
Liverpool have Torres now - would they have Torres if Owen had re-signed for them, would they as some posters have suggested won the Champions League if Owen had stayed?
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I wish people would look up things before writing them.
Liverpool did NOT flog Owen, he left. AND we did want him back but couldn't affrd his wages (i wonder why??? Someone say Americans???)
Fowler was bought for the crowd, you'd have a man the fans called GOD! in your team to gain extra momentum.
Though with Berba i love this comment "Berbatov, with a feint here and a flick there, seemed content to try and lazily pick the lock while Torres picked up the sledgehammer and banged the door down" LOL i loved this so true.
As if Robbie Keane for around 7m (cost-sold) was a mistake when Berba cost 30m. At least Keane ran into the ground trying.
And (embarrasingly) im loving John & Edward, it so funny watch them try so hard and their performances are great show.
Just shame about singing.
IN RAFA WE TRUST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ahh, but my point is that everything was equal until Liverpool offered him a new contract which he wouldn't signed. That's when things changed and probably the reason for the resentment.
I agree with your second paragraph though which is why when I hear about contracts not being worth anything any more, I point out that the contract gives a higher sale value to the club.
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With John and Edward it i snot about teh singing it is about stopping Danyl and the like from winning -
They do look a bit like the Pretenders though
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Hahahaha
Berba in his first season wins the league.
Robbie Fowler costs more than 7 million for 4 months!
Yes, exactly the same.
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At 3:43pm on 27 Oct 2009, baztheace wrote:
Good blog Robbo and I'd just like to congratulate Rafa and the Liverpool players for their 2-0 defeat of Loutland and their criminal element support, now safely back behind bars at Strangeways pending the next Day Release so generously allowed by the Warden
It was appropriate that when the Loutland supporters broke into their anthem "Build a Bonfire" written I suspect by a N Griffin, Benayoun fed Torres and United's louts were silenced for the second time in the afternoon.
I hope lockdown was early when they got back inside Strangeways.
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What a lovely person you must be.
Drown any kittens lately?
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I meant Robbie Keane in #44, I was laughing too hard
Fowler was just as useless though
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"a stout workman in sturdy boots into a flighty trollop in seven-inch heels" wonderful Robbo!
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#21,totally agree you with you on that one-but he will be carried all the way,his contribution will be negligeable-not a patch on the young Michael Owen but typical of a has been,continually running offside cos he needs the extra yard or two.World Cup 2010-forget it Owen.By the way,I have mocked Lucas and on the odd occasion Marscherano-but without Gerrard on the pitch,they did remarkably well AND Benayoun.Torres goal was a peach but what a through ball,served on a plate and well taken.
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44. At 3:44pm on 27 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:
Robbie Fowler costs more than 7 million for 4 months!
eh? have you been reading the S*n too ?
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If Vidic was transformed into a trollop in heels then perhaps that was what was wrong with Ferdinand.
He couldn't tell the difference between his defensive partner and Liverpools diver-in-chief.
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What would you expect Owen to do?
He has the opportunity to go and play for Real Madrid - arguably the biggest club in the world. He is coming to the end of his contract so naturally he doesnt want to resign and run the risk of Liverpool playing hardball and scuppering his chances of going.
He had served Liverpool well and wanted a new challenge. Its easy to say "oh well he shouldve stayed or he shouldve signed a new contract" but in reality he wanted to go to Madrid and its hard to blame him. Would Liverpool have been calling Barry a turncoat had they managed to sign him? No they would be cheering him each week and defending his decision to join a bigger club.
The theories of loyalty are well and good but clubs arent exactly going to be showing you a world of loyalty if you arent performing.
Without being party to what was going on behind the scenes its impossible to know for sure what was being said. Madrid were a bigger club and probably offering him far more money to join and in all honesty are there many out there that could refuse such a deal?
Similarly to those that say he shouldve resigned for Liverpool - how much of a say did he really have? Once Newcastle were willing to offer double what Liverpool were there was no way Madrid were going to entertain selling him to Liverpool regardless of what Owen wanted. Can you imagine him approaching the board and asking them to forgo 8 million just for his own sake?
I can see how Liverpool fans would feel a bit sour about the transfer but it needs to be looked at in perspective.
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49. At 3:47pm on 27 Oct 2009, TommyOnion wrote:
44. At 3:44pm on 27 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:
Robbie Fowler costs more than 7 million for 4 months!
eh? have you been reading the S*n too ?
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Again Onion either can't read the next post or chooses not to as you see the correction a couple down as meaning the loss Liverpool took on Robbie Keane - unless you somehow think they made a profit on him by selling him for less than the paid back to the club they bought him off
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I know for a fact that Owen begged to stay at Liverpool, but they rejected him, cold heartedly... and forced him in to Madrid, and when things didn't work out at Madrid (they would have if it wasn't for some bigger boys who kept poor Michael out the team) he tried again at the door of Anfield (think the door to the city of OZ) and again was rejected... so he had to hitch his away across the country to Geordie land, where he set about plying his trade... and the trouble was that due to an evil Cockney warlock (and his (not so) wise monkey assistant), the once proud army of Toon were relegated... So once more, Owen with a song in his heart made his way across this nation to once more beg at the feet of his former club for another chance... And i know for an absolute fact that Rafa gave Owen a wedgy and chinese burn before coldy, sending him on his way once more... But our young hero, was not down for long as one day a kindly old knight found him playing World cup willies in a car park behind Lidls and offered him another chance...
And that is exactly how it happened, anything else you here is a web of lies spun by a bitter scouseman...
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Welcome back to the disappeared.
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@ GazUtd: Thats not very nice now is it?? Why the hostility towards Liverpool, when hostility towards Owen is so absurd?
Owen ran his contract down, which is proof of someone who doesn't want to be at the club, so why re-sign him, or even give him a nice reception when he returns to Anfield for our bitterist of rivals?
That said, we football fans can take it all a bit too seriously at times, thoough it is easier for me to say that on the back of a 2-0 win over the Sc*m FC!! YEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MON THE REDS!!!!
Y.N.W.A!
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52. Come, come JDR - players hold all the cards these days
Owen could have simply rejected the Newcastle offer and said he would only leave to join Liverpool but fearing his England/World Cup place was in jeopardy he agreed to join the barcodes.
I'm not sure Owen owes us anything but us fans certainly don't owe him a warm reception.
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Just general comment. I am a Brit in Colorado (long story) and normally read this @ work in the evening. Got the day off today. Love to read your blogs Robbo, just dont get that humour here. Was up at 8am for Liverpool v Man U. What a game and a great win for Liverpool. It had everything. As for who will win the EPL, I still think it will be Chelsea.My evenings @ work are so much more enjoyable for reading your blogs Robbo. Keep up the good work.
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But there is no guarantee Madrid would have let him go to another Champions League team and he could have ended up warming the bench for yet another season
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40. At 3:40pm on 27 Oct 2009, Meaty Morton wrote:
I wish people would look up things before writing them.
Though with Berba i love this comment "Berbatov, with a feint here and a flick there, seemed content to try and lazily pick the lock while Torres picked up the sledgehammer and banged the door down" LOL i loved this so true.
Funny that because that quote is actually from Phil Mcnultys blog not Robbos!!! oh the irony!!!
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I must say, also, very surprising at Robbo's total and utter lack of knowledge regarding the Owen/LFC situation.
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"Hassungotta Kalou will be in Africa too which can only help the Stamford Bridge cause. I know he bagged a brace in midweek but the lad clearly has no idea where the ball's going to end up after (and if) it's connected with his feet"
Pure class, keep it goin Robbo
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I believe RBA (58)
His version of events is cleary the only visable account of how these events transpired.
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cheers H2H... It'll get modded soon, "they" wont let the truth out...
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I was ready to write a post but #14 sums it up perfectly.
I find it incredible that a BBC journalist can be so ignorant of a situation yet still write an article on the subject.
Sort it out robbo u tool.
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Anybody else fancy laughing and pointing at Robbo because he doesn't have a Scooby Doo what he's talking about?
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What a surprise, united lose one game away at liverpool and they get written off the title. Don't get me wrong i was not happy with how united performed but its never going to be easy to win away at anfield, especially when they have lost their last 4 games and so NEEDED a win.
The one thing i did not like about the blog was the boring statement saying berbatov is lazy. Though he had a disappointing second half on sunday, i believe he has had a fantastic season so far at united, and really is going to start hitting top form later on in the year.
I do think United need to improve in january if we are to win the league. We should never play giggs and scholes in the same team, or indeed scholes and carrick, theyre just too slow together. I look forward to seeing hargreaves back but we need a RB, LM and a goalie pretty sharpish.
It's no surprise to see people saying united won't win the league this year as it happens quite literally every year. Just don't forget united lost both ties to pool last year and came out on top. Write off united at your own peril.
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anyone got any good jokes.
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would that tool be a soil-redistribution implement by any chance?
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Well we'll have to start a new campaign RBA;
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The truth must be told.
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"At 4:08pm on 27 Oct 2009, davidgilmourthe3rd wrote:
anyone got any good jokes."
Well, there's the one about Fergie trying to sign the beachball because it moves faster and gets into more positions than Berbatov and can manage to stay on the pitch longer than Owen.
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Jan Molby coming out of retirement BTP? Would he gt booed though if he signed for united?
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At 4:08pm on 27 Oct 2009, davidgilmourthe3rd wrote:
anyone got any good jokes.
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Liverpool for the league.
Rafa is a genius.
TommyO has friends.
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Players hold the cards when theyre hot property. I dont honestly think Owen would have signed for any other prem side at the time but Madrid was a different prospect. You arent leaving to go to your main rivals or anything.
If you take your way of looking at it then essentially players are bound to clubs for life until the club feels fit to sell them or release them. The situation was tricky given the contract situation. Madrid probably realised the fact that Owen could be got on the cheap and went for him but in all liklihood werent going to be willing to pay megabucks for him so Own was trapped between rejuecting the opportunity flat out - fairly hard to do in my view, or signing a new deal and hoping Madrid would maintain interest (unlikely in my view). Other than that all he could do was not sign and tell it like it is. I can see how fans would be annoyed by this but I doubt it was something Owen had planned out. The opportunity arose and Owen was going to be hard pressed to refuse it.
There are other scenarios such as Ashley Cole where you get they impression the guy is just a money grabber with no sense of loyalty and moved cross city to main rivals but Owen scenario isnt the same. I doubt he ever dreamed of signing for Utd at the time until his career had hit the wall and again you can hardly blame him there.
I honestly dont think he had much say in the Newcastle deal. Madrid couldve threatened to leave him in the reserves rather than be hijacked into selling him to Liverpools offer. If the amounts offered had been the same theres no doubt where Owen would have gone.
The issue seems to be mainly with the timing of the contract, but like I said - Owen didnt plan it that way. The interest from Madrid probably only came about due to his contract running out as opposed to Owen planning years in advance he wouldnt resign.
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#73 davidgilmour3rd
My girlfriend was confident I was having an affair with the girl from work. She asked me one day what was the longest I've gone without sex.
The correct answer is not 'from home to the office'
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Jan Molbys ghost goal against Man Utd from 1985 (Milk Cup) is on the telly tonight!! Apparently its a stunner, and its never been shown before because there were no tv cameras at the game. cctv footage, but at least its another one against utd to laugh at!
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"I've been buying the 'he just looks lazy 'cos of the way he plays' argument for a while, but I've come to the conclusion that young Dimitar looks lazy because.... he IS lazy. Not languid or nonchalant. Lazy. Half-arsed. And not worth £30m of anyone's debt."
Could not have said it better myself. Spot on.
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GazUtd wrote:
Too slow TommyO.
A predicament that I am reliably informed your wife wishes would happen more often.
Perspective - A word unknown in Liverpool.
Much like employment.
Or hygeine.
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can you not see how much of a punk you are, Gaz? 'cause to all but a few in here, it's plain as day.
the fact that a clown like adam cheers you on in your idiocy should be a red flag, not a reassurance.
and don't bother with the "wind-up" defense - the slagging match abandoned any such tone long ago.
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I was watching the highlights of Man Utd-Liverpool (without knowing the score) on Sunday night on MOTD2 with some friends. I was disappointed with the reaction of the crowd to Owen coming on. I neither smiled/applauded for him, but then didn't boo either. That's what the crowd should have done imo.
The best response was Ngog's Owen-esque cool finish late in injury time for my money.
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Never thought the day would come when Robbo would stoop to JDR's expectations and kill the only Blog on beeb with some genuine thoughts and humour.
Should have known better. Its the age of activism and left wing radicals. Nothing with a hint of joy for the free must be tolerated. Nothing.
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Its got to be said, JDR is making more sense in this blog than most people who seem to just want to slate Liverpool (yep you Gaz and Adam) whilst Tommy is hardly helping either.
Man Utd appeared to desperately need some bite in their midfield on Sunday and unless injured, I cannot understand why Anderson didn't play, particularly as Scholes and Carrick were bypassed so easily. Not even sure Scholes picked up his customary booking.
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Grow up Denis.
You really are a tool.
All you do is insult Fergie.
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and there you have it, folks!
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JDR - he ran down his contract, it was quite deliberate - you may not see it but Liverpool fans saw it coming from 12 months prior to the Madrid transfer!
I know Owen wanted to play for Madrid - i don't blame him for that but he was only 24 it wasn't as if this was at the end of his career. Madrid already had a strike partnership of Raul/Ronaldo. Owen was misguided in the extreme that he was going to be anything other than back-up to those two at that time.
Madrid were not going to let him sit in the reserves on £100,000 a week either. It was a game of brinkmanship and Owen's England career and a bigger £££ offer from Newcastle proved the most important factors.
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"Jan Molby coming out of retirement BTP? Would he get booed though if he signed for united?"
Only by Fletcher for keeping him out of the team.
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Yes Denis there you have it.
All you are capable of is insulting people and then telling them how great you are.
A while back you said you weren't coming back but you couldn't resist it could you, too much preaching to do isn't there.
You have called Fergie and others here every name under the sun but when anyone else does anything outside your rules you feel free to insult them and tell them it is unacceptable in Denis world.
I couldn't care less about what you say Denis, like someone said before you are in for a serious fall from that high horse of yours.
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Late in again, apologies lads, TommyO I won't bother....you contradict so much it's unbelivable.
Gaz I know were tosh on Sunday, but does anyone apart from Robbo McNulty and Tommy O think the played well?
Given this last weekends results, Chelsea are going to win the league but only if all the other teams get swine flu before playing them....
H2H what is it with Arsenal and throwing in the towel?
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haha, that actually very true BTP...
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yes United lack bite, Carrick Scholes,O Shea, Berbatov, all decided to have an off day. I say get the young ones in and show a bit hunger...
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He had served Liverpool well and wanted a new challenge. Its easy to say "oh well he shouldve stayed or he shouldve signed a new contract" but in reality he wanted to go to Madrid and its hard to blame him......
3:50pm on 27 Oct 2009, JoeDavisRoach
Its not hard to blame him at all. Did he make the right choice? The proof of the pudding is in the eating, we won the Champions League the very next season. Liverpool fans were still appreciative of his achievements in a red shirt at this point. Then he chose to consider a move to Newcastle when Liverpool had shown a firm interest in him.
Similarly to those that say he shouldve resigned for Liverpool - how much of a say did he really have? Once Newcastle were willing to offer double what Liverpool were there was no way Madrid were going to entertain selling him to Liverpool regardless of what Owen wanted......
3:50pm on 27 Oct 2009, JoeDavisRoach
You're obviously a bit slow JDR. If Owen had ruled a move to Newcastle out Real Madrid would have been forced to negotiate with Liverpool, or keep an unsettled and unwanted player.
It was only when he signed on the dotted line for the mancs that Owen became HATED on the Kop. He is not welcome in Liverpool anymore. If I see him I will spit on him and verbally abuse him.
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81. - what channel is that on?
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Are you gonna preach at 5cups post Denis?
No, didn't think so. But then everything is ok in Denis world as long as it isn't a United fan doing it.
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Out of curiousity, if you remove all the insults from this blog, how many posts would there be?? Am guessing around 50% less!!
On a football related topic, if Strachan does not get Middlesborough promoted, will he get the sack as surely that is now the benchmark?? Hope he signed a long contract just in case to ensure a decent payoff as it is by no means a guaranteed success.
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In the midst of all these rambling responses who claim always to know more than the sports writer......just wanted to say great stuff, Robbo.
It warmed my heart, especially when you called Rafa "son" --- a true compliment to the man indeed. I was expecting with five minutes extra time that ManUnited would score - as usual? - but was thrilled to bits when Ngog came through....and you are so right, the goalie crossing the entire pitch to congratulate him was true class.
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95. At 4:28pm on 27 Oct 2009, 5europeancups05 wrote:
If I see him I will spit on him and verbally abuse him.
no need for that , is there?
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And I know that thousands of scousers feel exactly the same as I do.
Michael Owen is a mercenary.
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As a Liverpool fan I didn't have a problem with Owen signing for the mancs. They were the only big club that made him an offer. No doubt he's getting massive wages as well. Can't really blame him. But don't be expecting polite applause running out at Anfield in a white hot derby while wearing the manc kit.
I noticed there are no debates about zonal marking this week in the media. No talk of a 2 man team either. Or maybe the talk of 2 man team should be pointed at United because without Rooney and Fletcher they are an ordinary side in my opinion.
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5EuropeanCups05... No mate, Boba Fett is a mercanary, Owen would make a terrible bounty hunter and we all know it... Though i do suspect he may have frozen berbatov in carbonite... speaking of which, chill out fella... It is only a game, a ruddy good one, but still just a game mush..
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Gaz - memo from Thom Yorke - "you do it to yourself, just you - and that's what really hurts!"
so you stand by all of your childish barbs and gross generalizations, then? is it any wonder you've p*ssed so many off here? think hard, big guy. (hint: it's not down to the team you support!)
and i haven't had to mention Fergie lately - many others, Robbo included, are tired of his behaviour as well.
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I noticed there are no debates about zonal marking this week in the media. No talk of a 2 man team either. Or maybe the talk of 2 man team should be pointed at United because without Rooney and Fletcher they are an ordinary side in my opinion.
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No it's a 1 man team because you get the feeling that had Torres not galvanised the team by playing the result would have been different. By playing him he unsettled Vidic before the game even started and sure enough just like last season Vidic gets himself red-carded.
Time for Jonny Evans, Wes Brown and Gary Neville when we play them at OT I think
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89. At 4:24pm on 27 Oct 2009, TommyOnion wrote:
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Theres no doubt Owen decided to run down his contract (i.e. not resign) once he heard Madrid were interested. As I said before what were his options.
1. Madrid probably insinuated they werent going to pay silly money for him that Liverpool would no doubt demand were he to sign again so if he did sign a new contract the move most likely would be off.
2. Let his contract run down and hope Liverpool decide to sell him.
I cant see how he could have gone to Madrid if he done things differently.
He was only 24 yes, but had been in the Liverpool side for about 6 years. Its not like he can assume that Madrid are going to come knocking again. Competition is always going to strong up front at Madrid but as a confident young player Im sure he wanted to give it a go. The 100k a week would soften the blow of sitting the odd game on the bench Im sure aswell.
I honestly dont think Owen had much say in the deal to Newcastle. Ive no doubt hed have preffered Liverpool. If the offers were even close he may have been able to have a say but theres just no way Madrid were going to go half price. Madrid did a similar thing with Robben (and other players Im sure) where theyve no problem letting you play out in the reserves if you play hardball. In the end he had to move or suffer from not playing for a year and potentially losing his England status.
a certain amount of bitterness is to be expected over the deals but its not the same kind of thing as Sol Campbell or Ashley Cole.
Due to the nature of the timing I dont think Owen had much choice other than let his contract down if he wanted to go to Madrid and I also think he had little or no say in the return move to Newcastle. You may disagree but thats just my guess.
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92 Collie, wish I knew mate, but more importantly I wish Arsene knew and did something about it.
Once again I'll quote Robbo's wise words from a previous blog;
"Arsenal proved they're never more vulnerable than when they go 2-0 up."
He actually wrote this a few weeks ago, he must of got a tip from one of those fortune telling birds, Mystic Meg or Claire Voayant or whatever their names were.
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@TommyOnion : The free liverpool channel on sky channel 434. Not everybodys cuppa tea, but hey, I'll be tuning in.
10pm bst
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Adamspb wrote:
No it's a 1 man team because you get the feeling that had Torres not galvanised the team by playing the result would have been different. By playing him he unsettled Vidic before the game even started and sure enough just like last season Vidic gets himself red-carded.
Time for Jonny Evans, Wes Brown and Gary Neville when we play them at OT I think
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You may have a point in the fact Liverpool would probably have looked much less like scoring with no Torres. In fact, they probably would not have scored.
Still, it does mean the score would have ended 0-0 as it was not Torres' fault that United similarly looked toothless up front. Whilst changing the defence may change matters at Old Trafford, having Rooney play well in a similar vein to Torres would probably be more beneficial and more likely to yield a home win.
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an yes - 5Cups rant is a bit over-the-Kop.
easy there, mate.
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101. At 4:32pm on 27 Oct 2009, 5europeancups05 wrote:
And I know that thousands of scousers feel exactly the same as I do.
Michael Owen is a mercenary.
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Personally I couldn't care much about Micheal Owen he is rich beyond my dreams......and is laughing at anyone booing him.... he will retire next year or the year after and when he is 60 he will still be rich...he hasn't worked a day in his life and he is .....rich.
BUT, which footballer where, can you tell me is NOT a mercenary? Mercenary meaning you sell your services for money not for any loyalty.
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I think United were very very poor, and i think that thier poorness complimented Liverpools performance...
Well this way it annoys both sets of fans doesn't it... and thats whats important.
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Denis you really do live in your own little world don't you.
This is your general contribution to here...
1. Fergie is the anti-christ
2. Gaz you are a **** and everyone hates you
I wish I lived in Denis world
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Gaz - perhaps you should move to Denis World and have your own private arguement there??
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H2H - i think the Gunners need to press even harder with a 2-goal lead...conservativism has no place in that lineup.
keep the ball, keep scoring - kind of like "don't worry, be happy"
maybe Arsene should target Bobby McFerrin as midfield cover?
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At 4:44pm on 27 Oct 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:
I think United were very very poor, and i think that thier poorness complimented Liverpools performance...
Well this way it annoys both sets of fans doesn't it... and thats whats important.
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Doesn't annoy me RBA (granted Denis has the monopoly on that at the minute)
We were rubbish.
Your reasoning actually makes me feel better because someone else noticed that Pool aren't actually the all-conquering heroes they are being made out to be.
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Pilch - very good points. Rooney will need to play well and I think Owen or Macheda may be better choices up front unless Berbatov ups his game because he just isn't good enough at the moment - not enough work-rate an dnot enough goals
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re Owen
Typical England apologist stuff from Robbo. You're just like every other plastic journo/presenter working for the Beeb - gutless. You might want to re-think your 'I call a spade a spade' argument.
How is the situation any different from Tevez'? Please elaborate, Robbo. Tevez at least WANTED to stay at MU, whereas Owen couldn't wait to get shot of Liverpool (not to mention his treatment of Newcastle).
And you want fans to cut him some slack...?
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#118 - you say Tevez wanted to stay at Utd yet Fergie said that he suspected that Tevez had actually agreed a move to City in January. And Tevez went straight to City rather than somewhere else first - whereas at least Owen was at 2 other clubs in-between
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Gaz, I think that when Fergie made his remarks about the ref,that immediately trumps any reports on the game.I know Fergie does this to deflect criticism of his teams performance on the day,takes one for the team as it were.Liverpool weren't great but got the rub of the green and took their chances.That won't stop the title going to either Man Utd or Chelsea this season.
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116...Damn you gaz!
Ok, united have been pooooor all season and WILL finish 3rd at best behind 2 fancy London clubs... the result Liverpool got from a poor performance are what City and Arsenal should have got!
And fergie is the devil, he punches orphans, laughs at the needy and treats rented DVDs poorly... yeah that scratched film you finally got from lovefilm that doesnt work... that was FERGIE!
Oh and as a lad he always cheated at conkers!
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Nice try RBA, but what you really should have said was...
"Denis is correct and not at all conceited and I agree with him completely"
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JacksofB
Absolutely correct.
Fergie saying something interests the media more than most results.
You are also correct with your title assumption, it's going to London, I just hope it isn't Arsenal.
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It's going to Guildford on the UTD Supporters bus (that's the nearest it will get to London)
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RBA - "treats rented DVDs poorly... yeah that scratched film you finally got from lovefilm that doesnt work... that was FERGIE!"
that's good stuff!
Gaz - i've rested my case, and here you are still barking away like a toy poodle!
that Radiohead lyric stuck in yer head?
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115. At 4:47pm on 27 Oct 2009, DenistheGenius wrote:
H2H - i think the Gunners need to press even harder with a 2-goal lead...conservativism has no place in that lineup.
No point in signing up Maggie Thatcher in the transfer window then?
Shame, her winning, no nonsense mentality would have helped our young guns this season.
Which politicians would you guys want in your team, and why?
TRP here we come again.
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Denis won't you get moved on for vagrancy by resting your case in London (or worse still arrested by Special Branch)
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I would have Churchill as he'd fight them everywhere and will never surrender
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which politicians? i'll take Platini, obviously!
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Micheal Owen deserved all the stick he got, he tried to leave Liverpool on a free so we had to let him go for next to nothing to Real Madrid, at least Ronaldo signed a contract extension and Manu got a nice price for him, now he joins Manu to rub our noses in it, and thats not to mention his carry on at Newcastle, the chap is a baby faced rat, he has zero loyalty to anybody but himself, lets hope he stays on the bench all season and Manu win zero, then he would have sold of whats left of his miserable sole for nothing...
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I suppose fictional characters have free reign to display bias in their blogs - not a single other blogger on BBC purposely flaunts their bias, so I have deduced that this must be the ruling.
We can see this from small passages such as:
"United were rubbish, mind you. As bad as Liverpool have been. Fergie said as much, even though he still saw fit to direct some barbs the way of the ref."
A non-biased reporter, at the very least, would mention that the referees decisions may have been influenced by the home crowd (the fact being that he was basically bending over for them), when pointing out that SAF had a dig.
I do know that the author will make "comedy" remarks about Rafa and any other manager in the news - I can't deny that, but this article shows a very obvious pro-Scouse, anti-Manc mentality.
Boo hiss.
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Why is it, that if the title is Not Liverpools or Uniteds then it's chelseas? I mean Arsenal are in great shape at the moemnt, and there is spurs and city........................oh wait, sorry, .....
Anyway........ Who is getting relegated? because I have a pain in my proverbials listening to people berrate micheal owen and say he is better than berbatov.
This is the only game Berbatov was off..........
It reminds me of the story of Socrates, that bloke who used to play for Brazil in midfield I think. He was studying medicine and had a trial with either UCD or St Pats, either way he was told to sod off he was no good.
His problem was he so good, he was expecting people to be where they weren't. Wonder if Berbatov has the same problem. He is just so much better than a lot of players around him, he makes himself look crap because he plays so well?
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#105, Last season at Anfield didn't Liverpool beat United without Torres? We also beat Chelsea at Stamford Bridge with no Torres or Gerrard last season. Out of the 38 games, Gerrard and Torres played together 14 times. Yet somehow we finished 2nd with 86 points. Our highest points total since the 1987-88 season. And were league top scorers.
We've lost 6 games in all competitions this season. Gerrard and Torres played in 4 of them.
No doubt though that we are a better team when we have our 2 best players in the team. But does that not apply to all teams?
If Ronaldo and Rooney only played 14 of the 38 league games last season would they have won the league last season? Or the season before? I don't think so.
Since Essien, Lampard and Drogba have started getting a few injuries how many league titles have they won?
Fact is this: Take out the better players in any team and they will struggle to win the biggest prizes. Teams can get through the odd game without their better players but during a whole season it has an effect. Would Barca have won La Liga and the CL with Messi and Iniesta injured for large chunks of the season? How many games have Real Madrid won this season without Ronaldo?
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131, Robbo is pro Boro, and anti almost everthing, including Boro.
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Honestly Gaz, that was evil. JDR is amazingly on topic 2day! I for one hope DB comes good, one Forlan is enough for a lifetime. As for the game, we played the whole game like the 1st half against Sunderland,and that was painful. For Liverpool,I hav been telling my scouse loving pals here that this game proves you hav the best manager in the world and the best squad ever ... and I was actually praised for 'wisdom' and 'good sense' by one of them. IRWT!
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132 Collie, RE relegation.
After that Snoozefest masquerading as a PL fixture this weekend, I think that the writing is unfortunatly on the wall for Hull & Portsmouth, unless they make drastic changes ASAP.
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re post 131 ( Eric Dantona )
While I would not have been surprised to see Carragher sent off ( It was what my mate calls an 'orange' card where it could go either way )it was quite late in the game & in all reality made very little difference to the result.
I would also point out that Giggs & Rooney were ineffective by their standards probably as they used up most of their energy walking alongside the ref for 90 minutes. They reminded me of kids fighting to swing off the teachers arm at breaktime.
The Vidic moan by Fergie was partly right in that the 1st booking was harsh viewed by itself but was probably his 5th foul on Torres by that point.
Also no mention of a string of dubious free kicks given to you by Marriner , all in dangerous positions ,in the last quarter of the match.
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I think Pompey could escape if:
1 They've now gotten their finaces in order, leaving Hart free to worry about his team and is given some money to spend in January to strengthen his team.
2 And more importantly, they get to January and they've still got the dogged spirit they've shown so far in the face of adversity. If they've lost that and have been battered into submission by then, then I fear no amount of money will save them.
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To those who say that the Owen booing was predominantly due to the circumstances surrounding his departure from Liverpool, correct me if im wrong as i don't recall all the details but didn't Steve McManaman do a similar thing and let his contract run down before also signing for Real Madrid? yet i don't seem to remember him getting the same level of abuse as Owen when he returned to Anfield.
On that basis it can only be because Owen signed for United, which is fair enough as United v Liverpool is arguably the most intense and bitter rivalry in English football and to be fair i don't think the player himself was particularly bothered.
Another point is that those who say Owen signing for United was the same as Ince signing for Liverpool are wrong though, Ince was still at the top of his game, could have signed for a number of top level clubs at the time and was antagonistic to United through the media and no red will ever forget his cupped ear gesture towards the travelling support at the Anfield Road End in 99, which is why to this day despite his achievements Ince is still a hated figure at Old Trafford. With Owen, first of all, who would turn down Real Madrid? and he had the choice of Hull or Stoke before that phonecall from Ferguson, only a mug would have said no.
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"...wily Ferguson, chewing away frantically like a grazing water buffalo on fast forward and eyeing up the referee's waistline in the hope of finding something to talk about other than the tripe his team has turned out."
Very well said, Robbo!!
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RE: the flak for Owen.
The reason he got soundly booed was for his refusal to do what Rafa wanted and stay/come back to the club and then go to the worst possible new home!
Yes, we all thought that Michael was a hero and yes, he pretty much won the 2001 FA Cup Final on his own, and yes he scored lots of goals for us, but he seems not to have been a true Red like Carra and Stevie - he chased money and spurious fame elsewhere, and made stupid career choices: it was widely reported at the time that when Rafa arrived at the club, Michael was asked not to go to Real, and Rafa is reputed to have even explained to him what a bad move it would prove to be for Michael.
When this proved to be so and he wanted to come back to the UK, Rafa wanted to buy him for less than he was being offered at, and tried to get Michael to play brinkmanship with him, against Real. He apparently asked Michael to wait until the 11th hour, 59th minute and 55th second before the transfer window closed, and then Rafa would do a cut price deal with Real.
Michael then turned down this offer, and the chance of playing Champions League football, etc, to go to Newcastle.
Turning Rafa down twice was never going to make him popular, and spurning the fans who so adored him early in his career wasn't going to help either, was it?
Then he made it worse by joining absolutely, positively the worst possible club he could have joined: fans would rather have seen him join even Everton than the Mancs - the depth of rivalry between us and they over the past 25 years particularly just makes going there the worst possible choice he could have made!
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Yeah Ince still at the top of his game when ferguson let him go..right!
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139. At 5:55pm on 27 Oct 2009, LTTEtamiltigers wrote:
Well i think who ever done this blog is a liverpool fan.
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You really don't know Robbo all that well, do you.
The last paragraph about Gordon Strachan might give you a clue ;)
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all posts are now being radioactivly moderated.
we are now at def com 4 and have not reached this stage of hightened alert at the BBC since the Cuban missile crisis.
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no. 14
Spot on! That is what I have been trying to convey to these bloggers for ages...Owen chose to not stay or re-sign with Liverpool. And yes, he should not have joined Man u. Even Chelsea or Arsenal or Everton would have been ok. But the reality is that he is not the once feared striker he used to be anyway...so maybe him going to Man u wasn`t such a bad thing after all. He is a nice lad, but since he left us he hasn`t done so well, to put it mildly.
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139. At 5:55pm on 27 Oct 2009, LTTEtamiltigers wrote
"and liverpool is a one man team."
Yet they beat your eleven man team, how's that feel?
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What a waste of time reading that sub-schoolboy garbage has been. Does the BBC not have any bloggers who may have unimpaired mental faculties?
I read the blog twice - for the first and last time. No wonder football in the north-east is in a slump, again, if the average supporter is as alert, educated and as insightful as 'Robbo'. No standards to live up to and no aspirations to realise so the status of your team counts for nothing. Then you have the gall to make comment on clubs that are superior in every sense to anything you have ever experienced. Tramp blog from a tramp writer in a tramp area. Sad,
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#148 If it was a waste of time reading it, then why waste more time writing some ill mannered tosh that nobody wants to read?
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148. At 6:42pm on 27 Oct 2009, 35mileswest wrote:
Lighten up son, you want the serious stuff go look at Vickery, or Jardine, Minshull or Fletcher..............
No one writes seriously about the premiership
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Starfire, Your boys are up later against Everton.
What do you reckon, will 'Arry put out a strong team, or will he have one eye on this weeks derby?
Not being in europe this year, is this a serious cup, or do you think it's the league or bust? Cheers.
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RE 151, I've just read that both teams will be depleated due to injuries, so 'he'll probably have his hand forced. But still interested what you think
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H2H, Everton haven't exactly got a fit squad have they? I reckon Ol harry's lot will run riot tonight
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"I know very well what I have to do if I have the (Swine) flu. It's not a medical prescription. It's my grandmother's prescription - hot milk. Alcohol - red wine. Fantastic."
That was Dr. Ancelotti.
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I can't believe how poor the whole utd team played, VDS pulled off a few saves, but was beat at the near post and a throw out was nearly very costly. I know that they haven't been playing great lately but it looked to me as if the whole team had an off day. Maybe the whole atmosphere got to them, that is why it is important for fans to get behind their team, every game. I never seem to hear any loud atmosphere coming across on the TV from Old Trafford, bar the odd big European games midweek. But my main point is that I haven't heard any football pundits, mention that maybe that Utd's Wed's night CL game in Russia and all the traveling involved maybe had a bearing on utd's display, I'll settle for either excuse, or both, as a neutral. Also if I was Rafa and a Pool fan, I would have been quite angry, that my team who threw themselves at every shot to block it, chased and harried the opposition, and flew into every tackle with a determination as though their lives depended on it, but yet for the past week have done neither. But the big question is, are they going to now carry on from here with the same intensity?
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Yeah Collie your right, It,s just being an exiled gunner, I always seem to think about the Carling Cup as a glorified youth tournament, which ofcourse for most it isn't.
This is not meant to be derogatory, it's plainly my ignorance.
I noticed in the last round Man City had a full strength team out, so they obviously take it very serious.
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148...what? The blog was so bad you read it twice? Maybe if you read it a third time it'll get better? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again and expecting a different outcome.
Anyway, here's a little message that I'm sure our resident Liverpool fans would like to pass on to their Man U counterparts....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzJ2NKp23WU
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Owen is booed for the way he left us and ran down his conract so he left for a small fee. I have no problem with him going to man utd plus he is past it so was very glad when ferguson went for him as we did not.
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157. At 7:21pm on 27 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote
"Maybe if you read it a third time it'll get better"
But what if he thinks that it gets worse?
I shudder to think of the consequences if he were to read it four or god forbid five times.
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@151.
Of course we take it seriously ;) Harry had his best team out last year, sad thing was though a lot of our best players were cup tied for the final.
Mind tonight is looking like it'll be Tottenham Reserves vs whoever the hell Everton can coerce into donning a shirt for them tonight because of their injury list.
I say Tottenham reserves because we've Defoe still banned, Kranjar (sp?) cup tied, King and Woodgate out injured as well as Lennon and 'Arry's already said he's rotating the squad tonight.
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H2H He just needs to read it as many times as it takes for him to agree that Robbo is the best of the bloggers! What right does he have to be less brainwashed than those of us that have already recognised Robbo as the man at the the top of Blog mountain?
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@154.
Sound medical advice if you ask me haha.
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Robbo - why are you always 24 hrs behind Mr McNulty with your bloggs?
Is he the 'Bossman' and you have to play 'second fiddle' or something, or is it you that have taken on the Berbatov demeanour?
Sorry bin there, done that, bought the 'T'-shirt' ....yesterday.
Very disappointing, you need to put that McNulty fellow in his place, don't let him walk all over you!
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I maybe a little late to the party but I have been thoroughly entertained by some of the comments I have read. I don't blame MO for signing for Utd considering the position he was in. I don't particularly like it but I don't blame him. Towards the end of last season, I saw him at Chester Zoo (true). Had I known that he would be signing for Utd I wouldn't have spat on him as 5cups would, but I would have pointed him in the direction of the llamas.
Gaz - Denis must be laughing his c*ck off at how easy it has been to get you wound up.
Denis - post #83 could not have been better, especially the second sentence.
Robbo - Not up to your usual standard, although, I loved the way you have used Adebayor's name as a verb.
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Welbeck is the future! Send Owen to Bolton!
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I agree with most of what u say Robbo. Chelsea are fovourites to win the league yes but remember all the big four have been beaten at leat twice and Arsenal lost to good sides while Man U lost to Burnley and Liverpool to Sunderland and Chelsea to Wigan and Arsenal have not been outplayed in any game. It's just up to them to stop giving away their points and we'll be champions!!!!!!
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Terrific, the link for the live text for the games is bust :(
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165 I agree that Robbo does a great job with those fancy names, I'm waiting patiently for an article about Villa and England International Idbangawhore.
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Trotter, new campaign - BRAINWAS..... nah never mind, let the ignorant stay that way.
154, Anceloti doesn't have to worry about catching swine flu, the B'burn players got nowhere near his team last Saturday.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/league_cup/8323041.stm
it's working here Star!
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hey is there no live updates and 606 links for the Carling tonight? Man United have a really strong team out against Barnsely, They should have played this squad against Liverpool
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yes Collie, see 171. Blackburn, Pomp and ManU all 1 up.
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Idbangawhore. CLASSIC
Starfire, I thought that that was because I,m abroud, but you guys can't get it either?
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Naw trotter not that, I mean cheese or stevos updates?
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" 147. At 6:42pm on 27 Oct 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:
139. At 5:55pm on 27 Oct 2009, LTTEtamiltigers wrote
"and liverpool is a one man team."
Yet they beat your eleven man team, how's that feel?"
That was becasue of the atmosphere. if it wasn't for the atmosphere, it wud of been us winnin 2 0
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the lack of interest has made my stream brilliant.....
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Sorry Collie, can't help with that. I only have two buttons here.
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176. At 8:09pm on 27 Oct 2009, U14190887 wrote:
"That was becasue of the atmosphere. if it wasn't for the atmosphere, it wud of been us winnin 2 0"
I beg your pardon, L'pool is a one man plus atmosphere team that beat you.
Better?
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"Hell you had the mighty rear of Robbie Fowler squeezing other squad members off the bench a while back (Another of Benitez's less thought through acquisitions)."
You have no soul Robbo. The lift to the club when Rafa signed GOD (Fowler) was way beyond any other signing I can ever remember. Yes, we all knew he wasnt going to be scoring a ton of goals, but having his personality around lifted the whole club....A truly brilliant (and free) signing.
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The Live text are working now.
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Sorry Robbo can't help with X Factor but I'll race you to the gel.
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176. At 8:09pm on 27 Oct 2009, U14190887 wrote:
" 147. At 6:42pm on 27 Oct 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:
139. At 5:55pm on 27 Oct 2009, LTTEtamiltigers wrote
"and liverpool is a one man team."
Yet they beat your eleven man team, how's that feel?"
That was becasue of the atmosphere. if it wasn't for the atmosphere, it wud of been us winnin 2 0
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I beg your pardon. Do you mean manu normally play where there is no 'atmospher'?
Although, it does explain the differences in relative time we earthlings experience.
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#148 you is obviously too clever for this blog but #58 im with yoo. the last blog hd me worried - i was, as you mite no - somting of a supporter of jdr as long as i thort he was an anally retentive clown ploughing his lonely furrow as he whistled to the wind, then imagine mi horror to read your last blog robbo to discover he wasnt ploughing at all but fighting a subliminal war of attrition which i didnt notice until i realised he'd won it. robbbo overnite you had transformed in your bed from a onelegged pogoman with tv sunglasses into an accountant ticking off predictable points. im not surprised you have not deigned to bend the sky nd come down to join the postins as you are probably as bored of it as me. now robbo the rule is tis = you rite a witty blog, posters foloow you like a lost messiag titubating through the wilderness and post witty comments theirselfs,; you wtrite trite predictable guff and 1000 posts of po-faced dimwitted twaddle follow in a similar vein; its nothing to be proud of !.; can i remind you all, including the usual master debators yapping at each other like chihuhuas that this is a COMEDY FOOTBALL BLOG tell some chuffing jokes fer chrissakes
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BE fair star sometimes the 'atmospher' at OT is a bit flat due to the corperate prawn sandwich brigade and the day trippers.
Although admitedly The Emirates is probably just as bad.(Sshhh)
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i rest my case
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To Blogdagnabit, You're either the world's worst typist, or a very funny geezer..........
I'm leaning towards the latter.
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H2H I think Blogadingdong owned up to being the artist formerly known as RoboRobson, right Bloga?
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Oh my word, 1,000+ posts coming up on Owen's goal and Neville's red card!
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H2O - now you hav made me seem meanspirited. mi touchtyping was fine until i had that accident with a blender
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Bad news for Adam's Neville 4 England campaign.
Nasty tackle, red card, Bye bye.
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From where I'm sat the whole blog is a comedy, it's a joke from start to finish, great fun (most of the time) and I've not yet stopped laughing. There are moments when the blog is being serious and meaningful and it's that leaven which makes it such an attractive blog.
Talking of relegation just wait until Forest are back up there among the big boys. I know and before you say it I might have to wait until hell freezes over
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trotter = roses are red violets are blue, im schizophrnic and so am i.neville, yes stick him up front. owen yes his achilles heel is his achilles heel. £500 please, bbc.
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Blogdiggidy, sorry to hear about your accident,
but I hope you continue to mix it up with us.
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Trotter you've awoken a sleeping giant
Preach, it could happen, 5 wins on the trot is no mean feat in that league.
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Bloga - very funny, are you on the beeb payroll too? Best keep that quiet on here, there's enough complaints about wasted licence fees already!
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"Dimitar looks lazy because.... he IS lazy. Not languid or nonchalant. Lazy. Half-arsed."
Very true Robbo. The only question is why we, as posters, get moderated for making such statements. Is it just me or does the beeb smack of the big brother approach these days? Do as we say and not as we do!
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At 7:54pm on 27 Oct 2009, Shanklys_curtains wrote:
Gaz - Denis must be laughing his c*ck off at how easy it has been to get you wound up.
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There are many people who make fun of me here and I have no problem with it, as it is just a wind up.
Denis is not a wind-up merchant in the fun sense of the word, he is just a conceited 'I'm always right' know-it-all.
Probably reads the Daily Mail.
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Currently getting updates from the away end at Barnsley.
Apparently they didn't open the snack bars at half time, so the United fans just helped themselves.
Then there was a throwing competition with the cops.
Now the dogs are in.
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" Currently getting updates from the away end at Barnsley.
Apparently they didn't open the snack bars at half time, so the United fans just helped themselves.
Then there was a throwing competition with the cops.
Now the dogs are in. "
hahhaaaaaaaaaa
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erm is it just me or are there some serious issues with the BBC websites this evening.
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# 189 - first of the 1000 posts!!!
In his commentary on the Barnsley v United match Alan Green has just said in respect of Gary Neville's dismissal " It does not matter if you win the ball, if you take the man as well it is a straight red" - he didn't say that on Sunday about Jamie C's tackle on Carrick!! - two days is along time in football!!
Don't know who the other person(pundit?) was tonight with Alan Green, but he'd just finished 'slagging off' Michael Owen, when Owen scored ... laughed myself out of my socks!!
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Gaz, is that hot dogs?
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Let's all laugh at Real Madrid.
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I think the comment on the live text re: Madrid is a bit insulting to Bristol Rovers.
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Real Madrid probably wish they'd held on to Michael Owen!
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After this last week, I think Pellegrini gonna need something a lot stronger than a Pellegrino to drink.
How long you think he's gonna last?
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"Ee, regarding complaints abiut the wittiness of the last two blogs - guys, get real. We also supply high-octane blogs that I'll never admit to. You'd freak out if you knew which they were.
"But if one of my blogs doesn't deliver the level of magic I expect, I'm mortified," he added, with compliments to gordon ramsey.
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"And the breaking news keeps coming: Sir Alex Ferguson says Gary Neville deserved his red card. I'll give you a few minutes to pick yourself off the floor."
Quoted from live text.
With "journalism" like that is it any wonder there is rubbish continually spouted about Fergie.
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" "And the breaking news keeps coming: Sir Alex Ferguson says Gary Neville deserved his red card. I'll give you a few minutes to pick yourself off the floor." "
i assume they won then.
otherwise it would have been a different tune
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plus it seems af is resigned to accepting that GN is not really part of the wider plan anymore so no need to defend the guy i spose he is now surplas to requirements, plus of course, hes just admitted to the charge of misconduct and is obviously hoping to get a fair hearing.
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*209 According to the OED that means you could be embarrassed, celibate or suffering from necrosis. I wonder!?
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i see him going at the end of the season to be honest and i cant say i will be sorry either.
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how do u get a knighthood without doing the obligatory carpet crawling.
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DG3 212, don't think Adam would quite agree with you about that.
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ohhh, Gaz -
here's another appropriate reference for ya: "Are you gonna bark all day, little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
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GazUtd wrote:
At 7:54pm on 27 Oct 2009, Shanklys_curtains wrote:
"Gaz - Denis must be laughing his c*ck off at how easy it has been to get you wound up."
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There are many people who make fun of me here and I have no problem with it, as it is just a wind up.
Denis is not a wind-up merchant in the fun sense of the word, he is just a conceited 'I'm always right' know-it-all.
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i wonder why Gaz omits the rest Shankley's thought? hmmm.
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"Denis - post #83 could not have been better, especially the second sentence."
which read:
the fact that a clown like adam cheers you on in your idiocy should be a red flag, not a reassurance.
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and whats a scot doing accepting a knigthood from an english queen, well sorta english i spose.
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i beg to suggest all those making remarks about " mercenarys " should also take a good look at those at the helms of some of these clubs and the standards they set. and of course AF is a prime example.
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Robbo I used to enjoy reading your blogs becase it was something a little bit different. Even if your blog itself wasnt great then you could normally rely on getting a few good jokes on the comments section.
Nowadays your blogs are more or less the same as McNumptys except written with an accent and about 3 days after his ones. The comments page is ruined by a handful of clowns slagging off each others team or old fogies like JDR and his gang who seem incapable of having any fun whatsoever.
Worst of all is you have completely sold out and every week just give these same handful of guys fuel to continue their petty bickering and dont have the stones to tell JDR and his mates what the blog is supposed to be.
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geordie_hagi
in fairness to Robbo and indeed others.
just what is there worth print anymore, that both big and exciting about any of these tow clubs the blog is about.
i for one am sick and tired of the same drivel peddled each week about man and u pool
but at leats Robbo and his Hoppos make light work of it and do not have serious weeds stuck up thier backsides.
so it is in my view a wlecome hummorous take on staerdays events.
god this wine is good.
shine on
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DG3, it must be good and Geordie Hagi seems to enjoy a good whine too! Cheers!
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he had plenty of places to go actually. in fact he neednt have gone anywhere. couldve stayed at newcastle, the club who paid HUGE wages to watch him sit on the bench, and help to get them back up to the PL. he deserves the reception he got.
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#220 is there an echo in ere? i said this, much better, a few minutes ago.
on a more constriuctive note, can any paassing gooner explin to me what the chuffin eck wenger was on abaht when he climed to be eating rosbif to blend in with the natives - is this supposed to be a reference to adapting to footballing conditions, as if he turns out ersatz nuckledragging stoke teams who hoof it up the route one?
but we love his begian beer, continental purist idealism dont we? great to watch and no real threat to teams with yer actual indiginous style of play, as established shortly after the last ice age. arsene imports the finest exponents of the beautiful game and with his svengali like charm he extrcts the max, like a hmpshire pig breeder - "theres nothing of the pig you cant eat except the oink"they say in Haaampshre.
i tried to adapt to holland for a couple of years, couldnt master the language (except "what is that in your hand"="vat is dot in uw handt") blimey arsene has adapted as well to english style as i did to french living; i tried to drink red wine i really did but kept returning to stout as no drink can compare. it is sui guinessis.
i'll get me coat.
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Quite right about the toothless midfield. Not a sign of a 'blind Ninja in a duvet cover' tackling from Scholes even. And Carrick? Well one match he's Glenn Hoddle, the next he's Lord Lucan - or worse - Jermaine Jenas.
Apologies for not knowing the true story of Owen's betrayal. I just thought he was being a typical 24-year old international footballer and chasing the money. Still doesn't rule out his achievements in a Liverpool shirt, mind. Or does it?
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#209 is a flaming impostor. There's a B missing from his name and it must the one that's in my bonnet. I expect you sign on to Phil McNulty's blog as Phil McNuty.
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Geordie Hagi
I can hardly stop people coming on this blog and chatting... not sure what your view of what it should be is. Me I just write it... Obviously I'd like more Oxford Dons and the odd Nobel prize winner to chip in. But hey give the winos summat to do of an evening, will ya?
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Why is there a bee in your bonnet Robbo?
Is it Denis? I bet it's Denis. I has to be Denis. Couldn't possibly be anyone else.
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i disagree with eberything i just said
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Latest news Mike Ashley has taken Newcastle off the market and Chris Hughton named permanent manager. Now I think Newcastle will be promoted
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Watched that Madrid game. Cracking stuff! Their ground only holds about 3,000. The commentator was going snooker loopy nuts. It was en español of course, and mine is limited to queso y cerveza, so he could have been preaching the word of David Icke for all I know. Real had Raul, Benzema, van der Vaart, Diarra, Arbeloa, plenty of famous names, just totally outclassed. Good to see!
DG3, more than happy to stop the constant Liverpool-Utd bickering, try my best not to be too much of a bore on it myself but we have just played each other, and I suspect some parties are somewhat compelled by dogmatic zealotry on the issue! Shine on amigo (more Spanish... oh yeah).
Portsmouth... 4 goals? Against the stingy Potters? Man alive!
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why dont gaz and denis just go get a room for a couple of hours and beat each other to oblivion and let proper football fans air their views on here????
FFS SORT IT OUT!!!!!
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227 we're with you Robbo and we'd like you to arrange for the Mods to pop out and locate Zoot who, we seem to collectively agree, is deffo a Dapper Don and probably has a sideboard full of Nobels.
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Robbo, we're on your side mate. The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.
But what makes you think we're not Oxford dons? Actually, old chap, this moronic can't type wino persona, is a fiendish guise I have devised to conceal my true identity from my students and colleagues in the upper common room. As Heraclitus says, a man's character is his fate, but :
Heu, heu, quid volui misero mihi!Floribus austrum
perditus et liquidis inmisi fontibus apros./
(Oh no, what have I wished upon my miserable self? Lost in my mind, I have let south winds dash away my flowers, and wild boars muddy crystal springs. My translation, Eclogue 2 VIRGIL)
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Robbo... here's a Nobel Peace Prize winner collecting his trophy:
http://blog.taragana.com/n/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/brazillian-jersey-for-obama.jpeg
He'll be able to sort out the concerns of that Tamil Tiger guy from earlier. And it's better we ask him than Mother Teresa, who was a fraud and a beatified puppet anyway. And she's dead. Which won't help.
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actually the fake "Robo" is me as well. sorry. childish i no.
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227. At 11:42pm on 27 Oct 2009, Robbo Robson wrote:
Geordie Hagi
I can hardly stop people coming on this blog and chatting... not sure what your view of what it should be is. Me I just write it... Obviously I'd like more Oxford Dons and the odd Nobel prize winner to chip in. But hey give the winos summat to do of an evening, will ya?
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Ive never posted on your blog before but I usually read it and every week JDR and his gang come on and criticise. The blog is supposed to be funny and all he does is criticise and make football points. Why dont you explain to him that its not supposed to make much sense?
Why dont dont tell you the handful of guys using your blog to have their own personal slagging matches somewhere else?
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TommyB, why was she a fraud? Was she not really a Mother?
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blogdignag... from Mike Skinner to Tom Paulin via Robo and Oliver Reed. Impressive range, kidderbean.
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one Oxford Don as requested.
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Trotter... her name was actually Agnes, and she said she supported her local team, Calcutta North End, but secretly preferred rugby.
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#237 what business is it of yours what people write here? you've now repeated the same, rather boring point in the same boring witless way twice now. Can you not see the irony of complaining that something isn't funny when you yourself as entertaining as a nosebleed and about as witty and charming as the daily mail.And "JDR and his gang" as we all know is "JDR and his various blog log on names". You're as boringly repetitive as he is. Go on say it all again. Its midnight and i need something soporific.
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Are MK Dons allowed?
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jezebel.
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Trott... and as a youth she was reputed to have favoured the name "Victoria Defendera Defendera" for what we now know as Canberra. Preposterous woman! Good job nobody was asking 3-year old Albanian girls or we'd all have been fecked.
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Tommy, this is all quite shocking, it'll take a day or two to sink in. It was only last week that her name was put forward as the inventor of the internet. Tut tut. Whatever next. Hale Dons?
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234 Blogididoda, I knew you was a genius in disguise.
237 geordie_hagi, JDR & Robbo squared off many times untill the latter couldn't be bothered anymore. But to be fair, lately JDR's comments, although not comedy tinted, are usualy well writen & spawn debate, which at the end of the day,(like it now is)is the whole point of these blogs.
As for the slagging off and petty bickering, well it happens, as long as it doesn't get too nasty, I suppose we'll just have to live with it.
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Did Mother Theresa steal the jam out of your do-nut Tommy?
I wouldn't want to get on your bad side mate.
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H2O you are an infuriatingly wise and moderate man
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Blogdiggydig, Moderate man I can live with, so long as I'm not being accused of being a moderator, that doesn't sit well with some folks round here.
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snore
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Owen... not interested. Much more impressed by the fact that Liverpool looked compact, confident and relatively fluent against quality opposition. But will it be that way from now on?
Agony watching the last 15 minutes by the way, always expecting the worst.
PS cheers to the massive crowds in Bali watching the Prem League every week!
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More cheer for the Barcodes this morning. First of, Ashley's in for the long haul after telling Moat and co where to stick their takeover proposal and if that weren't enough for the poor Geordies the cockney pillock's talking about selling naming rights to St James's Park.
I can't see that going down like a lead balloon at all now.
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@251
I submit that you're the one with the sense of humour failure, geordie_hagi, not us.
And anyway, JDR's been coming in with some useful points to discuss about the game recently.
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Robbo - why are you always 24 hrs behind Mr McNulty with your bloggs?
Is he the 'Bossman' and you have to play 'second fiddle' or something, or is it you that have taken on the Berbatov demeanour
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Would that be the Bossman ruling then in football
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202. At 9:42pm on 27 Oct 2009, oncearedalways54 wrote:
# 189 - first of the 1000 posts!!!
In his commentary on the Barnsley v United match Alan Green has just said in respect of Gary Neville's dismissal " It does not matter if you win the ball, if you take the man as well it is a straight red" - he didn't say that on Sunday about Jamie C's tackle on Carrick!! - two days is along time in football!!
Don't know who the other person(pundit?) was tonight with Alan Green, but he'd just finished 'slagging off' Michael Owen, when Owen scored ... laughed myself out of my socks!!
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The interesting thing was the ball was at least 3 feet from the defender when Gary Neville played it and you would have thought he would have moved out of the way rather than run into his foot.
Good goal from Owen though Macheda looked like he had lost the plot a bit I like the look of Obertan some nice touches and dribbles - some good potential there
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Denis has got to Roberto Martinez I see.
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Still, at least they are classy losers:
NEVILLE SHOWS TRUE SPORTSMANSHIP
"The Manchester United captain's behaviour was described as 'a disgrace' by Daily Telegraph (ADAM) football correspondent Henry Winter in his match report of the game, with Neville accused of 'lecturing the linesman in-between goading lippy Liverpool fans'.
According to The Sun, controversy pursued Neville after the final whistle when 'he and fellow unused sub Jonny Evans tried to go through a post-match fitness routine. The pair were warming down in front of the United fans who had been held back after their side's 2-0 defeat. But a Reds steward felt Neville's presence might lead to problems with crowd control'.
The newspaper claims that it was only after 'a senior cop' intervened that Neville agreed to leave the pitch."
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''Nemanja Vidic turn from a stout workman in sturdy boots into a flighty trollop in seven-inch heels. I've never seen a top quality defender so terrified by an opposition number nine''
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sorry what did he do against him in the match, nothing
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sorry, forgot
SAVE PAUL SCHOLES
also, Robbo, do you think Southgate was shafted, or treated well? Seems Boro might have lost their 'caring club' reputation.
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I wonder if there is any link between Rafa and Roberto Martinez?Reminds me of a great line from "Porridge" when Fletch is talking about the poor education in Slade.
"Oh,I dunno.Someone got his Spannish O level.What's his name?Gomez."
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I was visited in the night by the ghost of Agnesë Gonxhe Bojaxhiu. Radiant, she was, with an aura of shimmering gold. She told me to keep my effin' mouth shut, or she'd be sending Mike Ashley and Dennis Wise round to sort me out. That's the last time I take a trip into the ether.
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260. At 09:34am on 28 Oct 2009, feetofmagic wrote:
''Nemanja Vidic turn from a stout workman in sturdy boots into a flighty trollop in seven-inch heels. I've never seen a top quality defender so terrified by an opposition number nine''
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sorry what did he do against him in the match, nothing
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you're right, it was the mercurial striking talent of Dirk Kuyt that proved too much for Vidic, although i'd say the flailing hack (after the whistle) that he was booked for suggests a defender tormented.
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#263 tommy blimey she wus busy last night; she appeared to me in a nimbus of glittery stuff and told me to tidy up my shoes in the hall because someone was going to trip up and break their neck. her best bit of advise though, and remember this comes with divine sanction, was -"go on that stoopid blog you waste your time with and tell man u fans to save money on expensive replica kits by simply strapping a fake penis to their heads so their allegiances are clear to the world".
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well... the league cup ay! the drama the excitement the um... the?... well, the... errr, the Glory??? (yeah that'll do)...
See the Pompey won, and scored four goals pas the stoic Stoke... Spurs always do well in this one don't they. And Utd got a win, and fergie even admitted a player deserved a red card??? well i never... honestly i didn't! tonight will be good though, Liverpool vs Arsenal... remember a couple of seasons ago the goons run riot, something similar would be welocome... And trotts your boys to the blues? Weren't chelsea put out at home this round last year by Burnley? didier got in trouble for giving some money back to someone who had dropped it, if i remember rightly?
anyway, in order to put an end to some of the bitter banter on here i would just like to say, rafa's tactics are as finely tuned as you will ever see and fergie is as honest as the day is long... the scary thing is from the last 2 matches played... this is true?
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blogalogadingdong - she is many things to many people. I just didn't know Man Utd and Calcutta North End were such bitter rivals. I'd have thought she'd have had more issues with Darlo (Darjeeling FC)
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Anyone else enjoying Ferguson's comical (yet pathetic) attempts to rub the refs up the right way?
What a sad case.
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blogga blogson... as you know i am always a fan of your posts, and having a read through, last nights were awesome... well done sir! if i was wearing a hat (i'm not, but i may on casual friday?, i'll see what HR say it may be frowned upon) i would tip in your direction...
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Great Blog robbo,love all the united fans comments,even if liverpool come out of the top four at the end of the season, as long as we beat united im relatively content.
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RBA.... it'd be easier to stop the bitterness if you explained to Adam that our dole queues are actually a cunning subterfuge. We're really all lining up to receive free caviar quiches from Derek Hatton and friends, who organise a bi-weekly bake sale for the good people of Merseyside. Mother Teresa provides the fairy cakes, and we all get blind drunk and sing Christmas number ones afterwards. Then maybe he'd stop using it as an insult, because it's really very silly.
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tommy she told me she has been upset by the "Beetroot Man" who rules them with a "rod of iron" and would like to see the poor street urchins of manc happier. she said the "future is blue" dont know what that ment. she was, coincidentally drinking darjeeling as she said "all proper tea is theft"
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261. At 09:37am on 28 Oct 2009, captainlazytim wrote:
sorry, forgot
SAVE PAUL SCHOLES
also, Robbo, do you think Southgate was shafted, or treated well? Seems Boro might have lost their 'caring club' reputation.
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Mate, I just reckon it was due. He had his chance to keep us up and even though the team have started ok, there's been a lot of sloppy goals conceded and besides Johnson there's not too much nous going forward. Strachan is a great appointment. If you click 'previous' at the top of this blog you can read me last one on that very subject.
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-"go on that stoopid blog you waste your time with and tell man u fans to save money on expensive replica kits by simply strapping a fake penis to their heads so their allegiances are clear to the world"
nice
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blog - but you must remember that "the quali-tea of Mersey is not strained". No need really.
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I read your bit, Robbo, and know that you approve generally, just that Southgate said Strachan was interviewed 2 weeks before Southgate left, doesn't seem in keeping with the club's previous conduct.
I see what you're saying about results, especially given that CH at the Toon is making it look a bit easy.
I watched Gordie's press conference, and got some little chuckles, so i'm glad he's back.
While we're interacting like this, just like to say twas a good read today (although i know in your position i probably wouldn't care too much about the praise/criticism ratio)
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268. At 10:24am on 28 Oct 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:
Anyone else enjoying Ferguson's comical (yet pathetic) attempts to rub the refs up the right way?
I loved the 'it wasn't high, just above the ankle...' line. Or just below the knee as the replay showed, eh Alex? Unable to behave himself off the pitch at the Manchester Derby & Liverpool v Utd game, unable to behave on the pitch with a nasty lunge at a youngster in the Carling Cup.
Oh and as for Owen http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8329380.stm still looking out for No.1, i see...
same old, same old
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Not much to contest about that foul by Neville. We've seen those kind of challenges break legs before now.
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Ankles, Knees... its all leg at the end of the day, surely?
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Still, at least the fans made up for at with a rampage of theft and general hooliganism.
Koala Tea.
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And Owen wants to sort himself out - whining about his match rating?
What a prat.
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Gaz....Adam....do yo want to talk about Gary Neville now?
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Gary nevilles dad is called Neville Neville... doesn't that tell you everything you need to know about that particular gene pool (puddle)...
gotta love that beard and tash combo though... rugged!
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Gary Neville has a dad?
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Jeff Winter get's it spot on !!!!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/oct/26/alex-ferguson-referees-manchester-united
so - to summarise
Ferguson is sucking up to avoid a massive ban from the FA
Owen is an idiot
Neville is a massive idiot
The United fans who smashed up their end and threw stuff at the police are scumbags and the club should be hit with an FA charge like West Ham/Millwall
cool - moving on to tonight, can't see anything other than another lesson from the Arsenal youth heading our way. Hopefully we'll get to see half an hour+ of Aquilani.
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Yep Jeremy Kyle confirmed it and everything!
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Jeff Winter from said article:
"There are signs that his temper is getting worse," he said. "Some of his touchline antics, when you see the veins standing out on his neck and see him swearing and shouting, are not too good for his own health let alone anyone else's."
I never like Winter as a ref, fancied himself a bit, but that description's pretty funny!
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Yes. Played the ball first - the defender had ample opportunity to get out of the way and no intent - should have been yellow not red
GARY NEVILLE FOR ENGLAND
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RBA... I thought he was spewed forth from the contorted bowels of Satan's pet balrog. But then I'd imagine that's something Jeremy Kyle would have intimate knowledge of, being the zookeeper of Hades.
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Jeff Winter:
clears up the Carra/Owen incident for all the Mancs.
"Ferguson clearly doesn't understand the law about the denial of an obvious goal-scoring opportunity," he said. "The fouled player has to have full control of the ball and has to be moving towards the goal but Michael Owen did not fulfil either condition.
"[Sunday's match official] Andre Marriner was absolutely right to award a yellow card and a direct free-kick," he added. "It would have been totally wrong for him to have sent Jamie Carragher off. And Sir Alex should never have said that Andre Marriner was not an experienced referee when he is on the Fifa list and got all the important decisions right on Sunday."
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enjoying the kcikc manu theme - i should explain like many millions I grew up with this loathing of man u - where i'm from its as de rigeur as designer trainers; other prejudices of my youth iv rationalised away – against sprouts, catholics (well what do you expect - november te 5th “National Burn a Catholic Day” - have you ever been to lewes in sussex? Jesus f chist) and and wearing a coat when its freezing cold. These childish things I have put away with my childhood - catholics are nice people (except YOU); sprouts are good for you etc. But hating man u? The devils own team? What's not to detest? I wouldnt min so much if they had a morinho or an ady boothroyd in charge – someone who could occasionally crack a smile or ell a joke, but Fergie is the nations most charmless man and he's starting to lose it – he knows he's lost is best player, his old favourites are starting to creak at the knees and the FUTURE HAS A BLUISH TINT. Ha ha.
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TommyB... nope sorry mate not satans pet balrog... just some manc scally who got lucky with his cousin in the back of a stolen capri... but its easy to get the 2 confused...
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Bloga: "FUTURE HAS A BLUISH TINT. Ha ha"
Are trying to tell me my nan is the future?
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Is it the Nannageddon?
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have you ever been to lewes in sussex? Jesus f chist
think you mean Firle, went there for the bonfire once, nearly lynched!
sussex as a whole is a hole, though. save arundel
And SAVE PAUL SCHOLES and GARY NEVILLE (for Man U, not England)
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RBA - Nirvnana, moe like
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i remember thier big hit... "Smells like cabbage and t-gel"
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I agree with Adam... this is no place for biased opinions!
Aldershot are the greatest team of all time ever!
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I hardly think the booing of Owen was down solely to him joining United. Years earlier, he ignored all the faith we'd put in him and the money we'd spent developing him by running down his contract to leave very cheaply. That's why we disliked him when he was at Madrid. Then, when Rafa tried to buy him for Real, he turned us down for Newcastle because they offered more money. He is a mercenary if ever there was one in football.
I also disagree that a strong performance and victory against the current champions should make you think that Liverpool don't have enough to win the title. If anything, seeing as we dealt well with every corner and didn't rely on Gerrard for creation, not to mention the imminent return of Aquilani, should persuade you that we are on the up and just need consistency to mount a title challenge.
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Adam - is there any authority you would not be able to shoot down with your superior knowledge? If Bill Gates were to talk about computing i'm sure we'd see you in the front row, shouting about how you know more.
Winter has merely stated the facts, he's a former referee in the Prem, and knows more than you about it, for sure. Man U have a better team, and squad, than Liverpool, but the decisions on the day were right, and we deserved our win. Live with it.
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lazytim - As Sunday was Andre Marriners 1st ever top 4 game that he had taken charge of can we ask the obvious question of HOW THE HELL IS HE ON THE FIFA LIST.
He's only been a league ref for 6 years and a prem one for 4 so surely him being on teh FIA list is premature and indicates some form of favouritism towards him by the FA - who else is on there - Stuart Attwell teh guy who gave a goal against Watford that was nearer the corner flag than the goal
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Man U have a better team, and squad, than Liverpool, but the decisions on the day were right, and we deserved our win. Live with it.
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No-one said you didn't deserve the win but the ref did not get all the decisions right - for example Evra's booking when he didn't even touch Torres was laughable
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"and indicates some form of favouritism towards him by the FA"
Jesus.
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Is it possible Adam, just maybe, that FIFA might know something you don't? That they have decided he has the skills, and he proved it by taking charge of a huge game and only offending the fans who complain as one with Fergie, sheep baa-ing about the injustice of a system where the best team wins on the day.
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The FA is a multi faith organisation... i can assure you BTP that Jesus has no favourtism shown to him... Not even at christmas!
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Evra clearly brought down Torres from behind - you're just embarrassing yourself now, adam.
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"oh no he didn't"
"oh yes he did"
Just to summarise the next few arguments...
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I heard this on phone-ins later on Sunday evening. Some rabid United fan claiming Torres tripped himself up with Jason Cundy (i think) repeatedly and correctly telling him that that was not the occasion that Evra got booked.
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#309 - Are you blind - even the replay shows Torres tripping over his own heels - I mean ...I don't even need to discuss what goes on in the sawdust that passes for your brain
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Jason Cundy is a creationist and member of the flat earth society, cant trust a word he says... Though if you wish to i do suppport your right to...
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What Jason Cundy - master pundit -
EVen the bbc live test states
14:46 Booking Patrice Evra goes into the referee's book for unsporting behaviour.
14:19
Foul by Patrice Evra on Fernando Torres, free kick awarded.
So that wasn't when he got booked then even though there is no further mention of an offence by Evra on Torres anywhere else in the text before or after
Oh yes - that was when Torres tripped on his own heels
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looks like it was adam phoning in, showing himself up !
That replay did indeed show Torres tripping over his own heels but that was not the occasion when Evra got booked. That happened out near the touchline, the booking came for a sliding tackle from behind when he clearly fouled Torres, it was near the penalty area resulting in the free-kick from Aurelio that VDS saved.
Still, you can't expect a S*n reader to have a clue.
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Well once again I'm sat here asking the question: 'What the F * * k is happening at Portsmouth?'
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I watched the game again last night.
You're wrong. I'm right.
The story of every Robbo Blog.
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They are going to win the league... they just need to have more consistency.
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well different consistency is what i meant, they have been consistently poor all season...
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RBA - nothing wrong with being a creationist as that just goes hand in hand with religion (creationism is interesting because the Hebrew word used to mean day just means period of time and no-one knows how long they were). Darwinism is equally flawed because evolution can't explain certain divergences and similarities not including the fact that the staitstical probability of amino acid to protien combinations to create complex organisms without some outside stimulous is actually mathematically impossible
However flat earth as well - explains a lot that does
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Gain onion stretches the truth. If there was a seperate foul it isn'yt mentioned - oh yes the entry
14:46
Fabio Aurelio has a direct shot on goal from the free kick, save by Edwin Van der Sar.
Not connected then.
You are such a clown - sign on son (YN Work Again)
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Afternoon all, hope you're feeling well.
267. At 10:22am on 28 Oct 2009, tommyb1982 wrote:
"I'd have thought she'd have had more issues with Darlo (Darjeeling FC)"
I suppose he's not exactly her cup of tea then Tommy!
296. At 11:22am on 28 Oct 2009, captainlazytim wrote:
"have you ever been to lewes in sussex? Jesus f chist
think you mean Firle,..."
Thanks for that Tim, I always wondered what the f stood for.
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i saw a satanic hand reach up from a rabit hole and grab torres' ankle. as for stoke - simple, tey dont care about the carling cup as "owd roger" is the drink of choice in the potteries; they made 10 changes to the team, fielding the local cubscout team, so dont be deceived - nothing can stop pompeys inevitable relegation. likewise old "dipped-in-tea" Brown's team is doomd, dooomed i say dooooomed!
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320 "Darwinism is equally flawed"
Back to Gary Neveille so quickly!
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Anyone seen Real Madrid's latest result - brilliant - knocked out of the cup by a village team.
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12:01... thats one of the earliest good afternoons i have ever had... You just dance on a knife edge dont you H2H...
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NO I think more Dirk Kuyt, Peter Beardsley and Lucas (triplets seperated at birth)
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Seperated using what, a screwdriver and blunt chisel from the looks of it...
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326 RBA, I started typing it at 11:30 just to make sure I'd have it done in time, plus we're an hour ahead of you here.
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If your an hour ahead of me, how come you didn't reply to what i typed before i typed it?
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@325.
Fr!gging hilarious ... 226 mill's worth of tem being soundly thrashed by a pub team that probably cost around 26p to put together.
It'd be like Man City or Chelsea being trounced by Sittingbourne FC, who for anyone who cares about the team from my home town, they're in the Ryman league, division 1 south.
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Always nice to see Franco's team on the wrong end!
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RBA, 313, that's just crazy talk, are you suggesting the earth isn't flat? This is all getting ridiculous.
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Oooohhhh adam doesn't like being shown up, does he?
here you go folks http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/oct/25/premier-league-liverpool-manchester-united
between minutes 12 & 18
12 min: Evra clips Aurelio's heels, accidentally by the looks of things, conceding a free-kick about 40 yards from his own goal, right of centre. Aurelio sends the ball into the mixer but it's cleared.
13 min: Patrice Evra gets booked for a late lunge on Fernando Torres. Free-kick for Liverpool about 30 yards out on the right flank. "Forget massive, isn't this game the very definition of the made-up word 'ginormous'?" asks Jesse Galdston.
17 min: It's all Liverpool at the moment and I've just accidentally deleted a big chunk of text outlining exactly why. Curses!
18 min: From the aforementioned free-kick, Aurelio sent a left-footed dirve screaming towards the top left-hand corner. Van der Sar saved brilliantly, only for the rebound to drop for Dirk Kuyt at the near post. He shot straight at Van der Sar, who had somehow recovered from his original save to parry the follow-up. The rebound dropped for Kuyt again and this time he dinked a cross towards the far post, but it was too high for any of the Liverpool players queueing up to nod it home.
I'm right, you're wrong.
Plus ca change? as they say in France
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Or pwnd, as the kids of today like to say !!!
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me i thort the eart balanced on the back of an infite pile of toroises; adam - in point of fact, creationism doesnt necessarily go "hand in hand" with religio because it depends on the degree to which different religious sects (CofE, Muggletonians etc) interepret the bible/koran etc. literally; creationists literally believe the earth was created in 4004bc - young earth theory - if "noone knows" the timescales involved, you'd better tell the creationists, because they think they do; some of the nuttier exponents, probably manu fans will even argue that fossils were planted there to test our faith. of course you cant prove or disprove this assertion with ref to the evidence.
evolution though is empirical and fits the facts (which is not of course to sy that it can't be falsified as all theory is by definition inductive) - your garbled account of mathmatical probablity would need to be demonstrated mathmatically - which you're clearly incapable of, old son.
by the way the muggletonians were a silly sect who, like you, were convinced they had immediate access to absolute truth but, unlike you, decided to keep quiet about it so died out in the 19thC.
im sorry this entry is a bit boring, but dont you hte pomposity? Adam don't you? Adam are you listening or are you back on your perch pecking at your reflection?
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301. At 11:33am on 28 Oct 2009, Glen+Aqua=No.19(Pepe_Talk) wrote:
"not to mention the imminent return of Aquilani, should persuade you that we are on the up and just need consistency to mount a title challenge."
I have wrote this before but, I don't believe you can return to somewhere you've never been. (In the L'pool team)
But seriously he might get a run out tonight against Arsene's Kindergaarten XI, should be interesting.
AS far as I know he wasn't really a worldbeater in a far slower league than the PL. Do you guys really think he,s going to be like the second comming and adapt straight away to the change in pace/class in the English game? I have my doubts, but...................
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330 RBA. Touche.
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"nothing wrong with being a creationist"
love it, great jokes.
also, what does this mean? "creationism is interesting because the Hebrew word used to mean day just means period of time and no-one knows how long they were". i know all the words, but..
Real was funny, does anyone know why it happened?
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tim - betting scam, defo
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I thought in France they say Onions smell so get lost./;
Guardian timeline - yeah like I believe them rather than the accurate BBC and my own eyes on Sky
RBA must be disconcerted by rumours that Tony Adams wants to manage Aldershot
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i mean jermaine defo had £3million on at 30000-1 and will now be building a death star to force his way into the england squad
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Real was funny, does anyone know why it happened?
Something to do with the other lot scoring 4 goals.
Lets all laugh at Real Madrid.
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It means what it says lazytim -
The henbrew word that has been translated as day doesn't necessarily mean aperiod of 24 hours - it just means period of time. As it of an inderminate length - therefore not 7 sequential periods of 24 hours - makes it interesting
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i get the sense that yu couldnt follow my previous entry, adam? go on try again.
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Adam wrote, RBA must be disconcerted by rumours that Tony Adams wants to manage Aldershot
You could do a lot worse than TA, didn,t think he was ready for the PL but with all due respect, I really think he'd be more than able to cut it down in a lower league.
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oh, you were repeating the little bit that everyone who has ever argued with a creationist halfwit has heard about 'the day of God'. Like how the Hebrew word for young lady was translated into 'Virgin', giving us the myth of the virgin birth.
you are aware religon is a narcotic for the hard-of-thinking, especially creationism, right? as a self-help tool it is fine, but when they start denying science and fact then surely you...oh wait, i'm talking to Adam, aren't I?
Don't worry your pretty head, dear.
SAVE PAUL SCHOLES
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should just say my anti-religion rant may have overstepped the mark. apologies to all believers
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"Like how the Hebrew word for young lady was translated into 'Virgin', giving us the myth of the virgin birth."
Yeah, I saw Snatch too.
Oooo that sounds rude.
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H2O i once saw a russian lady weightlifter with a 200 pound snatch
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Rafa is hardly redeemed with the victory over Man Utd, all it does is paper over the cracks and highlight the very obvious fact that without Gerrard and Torres Liverpool are a very ordinary team, and Rafa cakes is a very ordinary manager.
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351. At 12:56pm on 28 Oct 2009, blogdignag wrote:
H2O i once saw a russian lady weightlifter with a 200 pound snatch
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And on that note, I'm running away to lunch positivly scared brickless.
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342. At 12:31pm on 28 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:
Guardian timeline - yeah like I believe them rather than the accurate BBC and my own eyes on Sky
and yet the 'accurate BBC' timeline says
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/8316379.stm
11:48 Patrice Evra concedes a free kick for a foul on Fernando Torres. The free kick is swung in left-footed by Fabio Aurelio, clearance made by Michael Carrick.
[N.B. This is the incident which the replays showed Torres tripped over his own feet]
14:19 Foul by Patrice Evra on Fernando Torres, free kick awarded.
# 14:46 Booking
[N.B. this is the separate incident where Evra brings down Torres with a sliding tackle from behind]
# 14:46 Fabio Aurelio has a direct shot on goal from the free kick, save by Edwin Van der Sar.
So that just leaves your own eyes - one has to wonder what state they're in after years of onanist activity?
Completely shot by the looks of things.
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Blogagogo, there goes my lunch, I can see a big fat mosCOW in my head.
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TommyOnan - i agree with you, because otherwise you'll say something really horrible about me and i'll be really upset.
i think we should all just stick to the facts around here as in the famous song "port vale, port vale fc, by FAR the greatest team the world has ever seen". Sung it mesen.
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providing you don't make up things that never happened you'll have no problems from me, blogdignang.
When someone like adam starts shooting his mouth off e.g. #314 "there is no further mention of an offence by Evra on Torres anywhere else in the text before or after"
and his own source shows him to be talking out of his backside, someone has to point it out.
Looking forward to his apology, btw....
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I agree with every bidy and no bodym and especialy you...
I dont know i pop off to lunch (chip shop curry pot noodle, very nice) and my clubs being managed by a hebrew virgin and tony adam shas a 200 pound snatch... or somehting like that... its a funny old game.
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Maybe Adam and TommyO could settle the argument (well todays one anyway) by going by what the Daily Mails report of the match is? - Bearing in mind how highly this paper is held in their regard.
Not sure why people seem so sniffy about this publication, I mean, on their website at least, the other day their was an article on Cameron Diaz being seen on a film set holding an umbrella!!! AND there was a picture to prove it, none of this made up stuff like in the Sun (allegedly).
AND if that is not highbrow enough, investigative journalism for you - they once had an article on how Dannii Minogue had put air in the tyres of a hire car all by herself! And to all you doubters out there, tehre was a picture of her doing so ...
So let's forget this newspaper reading snobbery and give credit where credit is due.
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RBA, sNot has eZ has it Luks, innit?
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TommyONAN- ok i promise not to make anything up (laughs up sleeve)
this blog cracks me up it really does. am i as demented as the rest of you. i must be i suppose.
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TommyO- you talk out of your a** so many times people think you look like a donkey
Thanks for teh mod complaints seems like evry time I criticise you or your beloved pool I get modded.
#359 - Danni Minogue putting air in her own tires - whatever next getting her airbags pumped up?
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359. At 1:30pm on 28 Oct 2009, bluehellsbells wrote:
Maybe Adam and TommyO could settle the argument (well todays one anyway) by going by what the Daily Mails report of the match is?
http://dailymail.touch-line.com/?matchid=413696
TommyOnion 3 v 0 S*n reader
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363. At 1:35pm on 28 Oct 2009, TommyOnion wrote:
http://dailymail.touch-line.com/?matchid=413696
Aah but there were no pictures - so how do you KNOW that it was true?
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he is a blog savant..
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just in case you can't get the link to work....
16 Great double save from van der Sar. Aurelio's free-kick was going top left but he managed to paw that out and then Kuyt looked odds-on to steer the loose ball home but the big Dutchman saved with his feet. Kuyt then dinked the ball to the back post but Torres failed to control his shot. The Scousers should be leading.
15 Evra goes in the book this time after another poorly judged tackle on Torres.
13 Evra nicks Torres' heels to concede a free-kick 10-yards out side the box but Aurelio's delivery is easily cleared. This match is, unsurprisingly, being played at a frantic pace.
anytime you want to apologise, adam.....
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You have just proved my point - 13 minutes Torres trips over his own heels and then the refree books him - process took about 1 minute 30 seconds
Timings are actually wrong as Evra is only involved in one incident with Torres
So Torres trips over own heels, Evra Booked, aurelio free-kick-
Adam the Telegraph reader wins Game, Set & Match .
Goodbye uninformed one.
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Neville for prime minister
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can no one find this incident on Youtube, so we can judge for ourselves...?
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So the 'accurate BBC', the guardian & the mail all show 2 separate incidents with him being booked for the second, which was Aurelio's free kick
but they're all wrong? ]
You've lost the argument massively here - but keep going, i knew you wouldn't have the balls to apologise and i want to see how deep you can dig this....
Btw - as I clearly own adam now - I'll be auctioning him on ebay this evening. Bids starting at 1p.
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Robbo. You talk utter nonsense mate. You think liverpool wont do anything? I cant wait to see what the likes of you and mark bright will say when we're powering on. Admitteldy, chelsea might be above us but mark my words, we'll be there or there abouts fighting and are certs for top4 at the very least.
Really, its as if you "pundits" meet up and deciude who you're all going to tear to pieces.. You all must be scared and still reeling from all the hidings and trophys over the years.
Get a grip and start talking sense you bleeding radiator.
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369. At 1:54pm on 28 Oct 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:
can no one find this incident on Youtube, so we can judge for ourselves...?
there were 2 incidents - phrases like "Evra goes in the book this time after another poorly judged tackle on Torres." give the game away
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OK... can no one find this on youtube so we can look at both incidents... sheesh!
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Just goes to show that that old saying is still right today,
You can lead a horse to water,
but you can't get a manc and a scouse to agree.
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Wasn't one of the Beatles a Manc? I know John Barnes was...
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only joking liverpool... just testing your famous sense of humour.
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Weren't slave auctions banned sometime in the 1800's?
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371, ewilcocks, (Had to check that name twice)
How dare you call Robbo a "pundit", he won't like that, you'll be calling him a journalist next, and then the stuff will really hit the fan.
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RBA Hare Krishna was a manc too.
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TommyO - the only thing you own is a free ticket to the psycho ward when your delusions overtake you.
I'd put you on ebay but would probably have to pay people to buy you of such little worth are your opinions
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He was one with everything though wasn't he?
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3 separate match reports say you're wrong
go on admit it - you've made a tit of yourself
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379 Trotter,
Hare Krishna Hare Krishna
Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama
Rama Rama Hare Hare
I'm sure I heard them singing that in the kop, as well as the stretford end, after a few drinks thier accents are basically the same.
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RBA "He was one with everything though wasn't he?"
No, that's how he took his hotdogs.
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he was one with a yellow submarine
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he'd sail it up and down the Manchester ship canal most weekends.
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I am becoming more certain with every passing week that Chelsea will lift the Premier League trophy come May - in fact possibly even before May.
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True, unless you conveniently forget about Jan 2010 (obvious reasons) and the fact that they've recently lost to both Villa AND Wigan...mmmm
Agree Vidic needs to see a psychiatrist before the return leg at OT
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cheers
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between the chanting and all that... fair dues!
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#385 After Sunday's game there was more than one who was angry at a SUB standard MARrINErs
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What like you always do. The game footage doesn't change, Torers falling over himself and teh booking follow right after the other
Why can't you just admit the ref was rubbish and leave it at that.
No-one is saying that Liverpool didn't play better than us or that they deserved the result - it is just that Andre Marriner is a rubbish ref
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391. At 2:28pm on 28 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:
What like you always do. The game footage doesn't change, Torers falling over himself and teh booking follow right after the other
That isn't what happened
3 separate match reports tell you that isn't what happened. You are wrong.
I'm not moving the debate elsewhere.
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'By playing him he unsettled Vidic before the game even started and sure enough just like last season Vidic gets himself red-carded.'
are you saying that United are a one man team? coz what you say is that by unsettling Vidic you beat United.
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RedWill... Chelsea will be able to shift a bit more of their focus on to the Prem when the Trotters dump 'em from the Carling Cup tonight. Oh Happy days! Ok, I know, I know, just let me have my dream for five more hours.
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how many days till Man U play Liverpool again?
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http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/real-football/844217-video-fernando-torres-dive-year-so-far.html
This ought to shut this one up.
He tripped. End of.
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yes - we know - and Evra wasn't booked for that!
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Star, when did evidence ever end the debate between man U and LFC fans?
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Yes he was. Just move on
#393 - it sin't a case of unsettle Vidic you beat Utd but it contributed bacuse Rio was also off form, Berba was poor and the midfield took too long to get going. If the other usints of the team had performed well it would have had less of an impact
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http://www.redcafe.net/f6/evra-game-273167/
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395 RBA, it doesn't really matter mate, because up to that date they'll be slagging each other off about every little thing. (I don't care, whatever floats your boat)
So in reality here in blog territory it's Man Utd v Liverpool everyday
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And it mentions this incident where on that link. we know Utd were poor - what bearing does this have on the ref's performance. None. He was stil rubbish
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i know H2H... i was just wondering is all.
Its funny how they argue so much this season when Chelsea are doing so much better tah them both, as are arsenal... Give it a month they'll both be out side the top 4!
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H2H -More importantly when is teh next Southend vs Colchester game as that is great fun to go to
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http://www.sportinglife.com/football/live_match/action_euro.auto?/opt/ASFapache/htdocs/site/football/live_match/187336_action.insdat
so that's the BBC, the Guardian, The Daily Mail, Sporting Life and Man Utd fans on a Man Utd website
this must be the internet kicking of the decade !!!!!!
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what rae you guys rowing about again?
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402. At 2:46pm on 28 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:
And it mentions this incident where on that link
Deary me !!!!!!! Try reading the exchange between the United fans !
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This has gotta be one of the longest blog arguments I've seen in ages, Adamp, think you gotta admit defeat on this one
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OG... i dont think that's gonna happen.
Adam i think you have 2 plausible defences...
1. The Hack... say your account was hacked and sabotaged by a spiteful scouse
2. The Fergie... say your rabid denial of what happened was just some master plan to deflect criticism away from your team.
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I am going for the Fergie - Marriner was rubbish, Torres tripped on his heels and I wouldn't believe that hypocrital scouser if he told me that that Jupiter was the biggest planet in the Solar system (also because I am correct and they are ALL wrong. Cos I said so.
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404. At 2:47pm on 28 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote
H2H -More importantly when is teh next Southend vs Colchester game as that is great fun to go to
That will probably be a sell out, or a sell up, or a fire sale.
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well, who would have thought it? United receive two pastings from a one-man Liverpool team in the space of 4 days !
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Adam, good use of the fergie...
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404. At 2:47pm on 28 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:
H2H -More importantly when is teh next Southend vs Colchester game as that is great fun to go to
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Could be an 'If' rather than a 'When', given Southend's financial woes right now. Mind they'll have good company in the likes of Weymouth and Hull if things are to be believed.
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Did anyone see that Jan Molby goal last night? I think it may not have actually happened. For a start I was flicking through the sports channels and the free Liverpool TV channel worked (I thought I’d had a special chip installed to block it to be replaced by a loop of Eric Cantona goals) and then when they finally showed it they used phrases like ‘he ran 40 yards’ and ‘pace’.
Does anyone know how to put back together generic digital recordy type things as mine is now in pieces oh and that second goal was never a penalty… ; ) prove otherwise…
As for the Evra/Torres thing I’m playing my Arsene card….I didn’t see nothing right.
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Well played 'staff.
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adam youre right im looking forwrd to the u's giving southend a lesson in football
lisbies on fire, not sure why ipswich thnk theyre good enough to loan him out...
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#414 - could be right there but I think Portsmouth are in more trouble than Hull & Southend as apparently al Faraj doesn't have anuy money either. That coupled with Storrie in the dock on cheating the exchequer charges could mean they do end up in administration. It's the only way Hull will stay up this year.
On teh subject of Karma anyone notice that Airdrie UItd have finished bottom of Div 1 for 2 seasons and only surviced because of Gretna going under and Livingston into liquidation before being saved yet they got loads of help when they went under as tehy bought Clydebak FC - moved them to Airdroie and took tehir league place which is well out of order
Would love to see them relegated
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Afternoon all. What a fascinating read, not sure dare show my face.
Adam, not certain which early Hebrew word you are referring to but the Hebrew "Yom" and translated as day defines day as being from darkness through the light hours until the return of darkness.
Captainlazytim No offence taken didn't even consider it a rant. Interestingly in America it is said that "Sport is the opiate of the masses"
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415. At 3:09pm on 28 Oct 2009, oldstafford wrote:
free Liverpool TV channel
Is this campaign similar to Free Willy, Free Nelson mandela (OK I know he's been released for a good few years now)etc etc
Is the Liverpool TV channel being held captive by Mancs? (Adam, what have you been up to now?)
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Don Oxford here,
I baby sat the young Neville's when they were nipper's.
Did I turn them over to the "Dark Side", No, when your Dads named "Neville, Neville" your dommed"
Any of you guys out there want to discuss "Quantum Physics" or the "Black Hole" theory or should we just stick to the footy?
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If that's true about Pompey's newest owner then I feel another of my 'WTF' questions coming on.
Seriously though, I thought the idea of this 'Fit And Proper Persons' test was meant to cut this sort of bull out of the game.
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#420 - I have them in my power and unless they admit LFC deserve to be relegated to the Merseyside Ability Counts League fortwith they shall suffer a fate (which for them would be) worse than death (endless re-runs of Gary Neville lifting the league championship trophy)
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All the fit & proper person test checks is if you are a criminal and if you have the initial cash to buy the club not necessarily to run it
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423. At 3:22pm on 28 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:
#420 - I have them in my power and unless they admit LFC deserve to be relegated to the Merseyside Ability Counts League
I hope you spelt Counts right
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So the test is as useful as a cat flap in an elephant house then.
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420 Bluehells - To be fair I couldn't understand what any of them were saying but I think it did have something to do with freeing an oversize mammal and an infamous goal he scored.
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#419 - yes but modern america was established by religious nutters, so you wouldsay that wouldnt you? not sure when the last war was justified by an argument over the laws of pingpong or who was the last keirin pace setter to ride into the crowd and blow himself up as a short cut to paradise?
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So he's really Molby Dick then
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What'd I miss?
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419. At 3:17pm on 28 Oct 2009, redpreacherman wrote:
Afternoon all. What a fascinating read, not sure dare show my face.
Captainlazytim No offence taken didn't even consider it a rant. Interestingly in America it is said that "Sport is the opiate of the masses
that's noam chomsky, i think. refers to keeping populations in check with regular public blood-letting (sport), also satisfying the tribal need.
i find the creationist thing a bit evil, so it's unfair for me to compare it to sport
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I just went out to get some beer, it's nice to see the LFC v MUFC war has died down a bit (for now)
Here Adam, lets leave it all behind with a blast from our pasts, check this out.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/herschell/3181970803/
And who said Holloway was a dive!
Anyway while I was tripping down memory lane, (all puns intended) I remembered that Boy George/Culture Club used this location's interior in their "Do you really want to hurt me" video. (Dedicated to Gaz/denis/adam/TommyO)
I'm aware of this highly unuseful piece of pop trivia due to the fact that I was there when they filmed it.
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428. At 3:29pm on 28 Oct 2009, blogdignag wrote:
#419 - yes but modern america was established by religious nutters, so you wouldsay that wouldnt you? not sure when the last war was justified by an argument over the laws of pingpong or who was the last keirin pace setter to ride into the crowd and blow himself up as a short cut to paradise?
now that is a rant
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Now that's a class sign.
Did you know that George Michael's house in Highgate used to be on my paper round (along with quite a few Arsenal & Spurs players)
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Arsenal and Spurs players had a paper round?
Times were bad.
Inform Mr. Blatter at once.
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Adam, did he ever invite you in?
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Adam, being from Holloway I was always looked down upon from the people of Highgate and Highbury.
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Calum Davenport has been charged with assault after being stabbed in both legs.
Does Andre Marriner work for the CPS?
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Trotter, everyone knows that George did his business Outside.
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Maybe he stabbed himself Gaz?
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437. At 3:49pm on 28 Oct 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:
Adam, being from Holloway I was always looked down upon from the people of Highgate and Highbury.
That's only because Highgate was on top of a hill though.
Gaz are you serious - if so that is absolutely outrageous - he gets assualted, stabbed, ends his career and gets charged ofr it - disgraceful -
Jeff Winter's behind this
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Well technically H2H public toilets are not really outside.
Unless you're in Aldershot of course.
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"All the fit & proper person test checks is if you are a criminal and if you have the initial cash to buy the club"
Considering they let G&H and the Leprechaun buy two of the biggest clubs in the world, it doesn't even seem able to check that out properly.
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Who does that work Gaz?
Is the guy sueing him for damage to his knife?
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It's on Sky News Adam so it must be serious!
Along with another gem from Prince Philip. Is there any chance we can borrow him in Ireland for a while, or at least send him over on a visit so we can get a good laugh when he calls us god-knows-what.
The man is a genius!
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*How
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@438
The law's a complete a$$. That's all I'll say on the matter that shouldn't fall foul of the profanity filter.
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adam
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/westham/6454119/Calum-Davenport-West-Ham-footballer-charged-with-assault-on-woman.html
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443. At 3:53pm on 28 Oct 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:
"All the fit & proper person test checks is if you are a criminal and if you have the initial cash to buy the club"
Considering they let G&H and the Leprechaun buy two of the biggest clubs in the world, it doesn't even seem able to check that out properly.
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I'm assuming Leprechaun is meant to be Glazier. (Incidentally the cleanest insult I've heard anyone call him if that's the case.)
But anyway, to be fair, the test was only brought in within the last few months, not that it's made any diference in the grand scheme of things.
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Thanks Tim (paper boy was late today so not got my print copy yet)
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"But anyway, to be fair, the test was only brought in within the last few months"
By 'the last few months', I assume you mean since 2004, when it was actually introduced.
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tim thanks for the link - on the same page did you catch the vid of stojkovic, manager of japanese team grampus 8 scoring a 50 yard wonder goal from the technical area? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/international/6452423/Dragan-Stojkovic-congratulated-by-Michel-Platini-for-touchline-wonder-goal.html
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Looks like his SISTER has accused him of assault (While he was trying to stop her boyfriend from knifing his mother and himself)
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451. At 4:04pm on 28 Oct 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:
"But anyway, to be fair, the test was only brought in within the last few months"
By 'the last few months', I assume you mean since 2004, when it was actually introduced.
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My mistake. I was under the impression it was a recent thing. Turns out all the fanfare leading me to this conclusion was over the revised version.
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Oi! Blogdig, I posted that last week, are you admitting you don't read my posts? Disgraceful!
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"Looks like his SISTER has accused him of assault (While he was trying to stop her boyfriend from knifing his mother and himself)"
This sounds like a storyline from Barnsley! (if the 'knifing' part was replaced by 'fondling')
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Almost choked on that
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453.
An excellent goal, though made even more comical by the resulting sending off by the ref.
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the comment that is
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"(if the 'knifing' part was replaced by 'fondling')"
Or 'theft and hooliganism'.
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457 Owls_Geezer, Championship humor, nice.
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Robbo - why are you always 24 hrs behind Mr McNulty with your bloggs?
Is he the 'Bossman' and you have to play 'second fiddle' or something, or is it you that have taken on the Berbatov demeanour
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Always 24 hours behind? Actually here's quite often 72 hours behind me. No he's not my Bossman... I am not Barrichello to his Schumacher. Didn't out anything up on Monday cos I was too busy celebrating the tail-end of me Dad's 80th birthday party. Well-preserved he is. Pickled, you might say.
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grampus 8 (arsene wengers old club), "molby" dick etc etc im ill in bed but this blog has given my day a sense of porpoise and ive hd a right whale of a time.
ill get me coat.
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BTP - i wish i'd thought of that.
the Dav affair seems very murky, but interesting
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Happy Birthday to Robbo's Dad!
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421. At 3:20pm on 28 Oct 2009, Dwilson903 wrote:
Don Oxford here,
I baby sat the young Neville's when they were nipper's.
Did I turn them over to the "Dark Side", No, when your Dads named "Neville, Neville" your dommed"
Any of you guys out there want to discuss "Quantum Physics" or the "Black Hole" theory or should we just stick to the footy?
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Actually I have tried to get me head round some of that particle physics stuff - I bought summat called The Idiot's Guide To String Theory. Turns out I was the wrong idiot.
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Well happy birthday grampa Robbo... oh the thing you could do in 80 years... like listen to half of a TommyOnion vs Adam debate...
Congrats though, i lost me Grandad recently, but he went the way i want to go, peacefully in his sleep... not screaming like his passangers!
Its an oldy' but a goody'... a tribute to grandfathers if you will..
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"I was too busy celebrating the tail-end of me Dad's 80th birthday party"
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Ah the old early enough to still get a drink in but late enough to avoid bringing a present ruse.
The North-East is alive and well in you my son.
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I'll pass it on to the old fella. Bless 'im. He won't understand. He thinks a blogger is someone who sabotages public conveniences (Clingfilm over the pan, that sort of thing)
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People say there is no good way to die, they obviosuly haven't heard of a drug fuelled sex heart attack.
Copyright Mr. Frankie Boyle.
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He's probably right.
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At 4:20pm on 28 Oct 2009, Robbo Robson wrote:
I'll pass it on to the old fella. Bless 'im. He won't understand. He thinks a blogger is someone who sabotages public conveniences (Clingfilm over the pan, that sort of thing)
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Are we back on George Michael again?
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Gaz how can you quote that monster after the terrible things he said about that big nosed watery bint?
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"Copyright Mr. Frankie Boyle."
Up there with "People laughed when Mel Gibson played a Scot, but look at him now - an alcoholic racist."
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I read his autobiography last week RBA, was fresh in the memory.
Have you heard he has quit Mock The Week because of censorship by the BBC?
He should have came to the sports blog section.
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gaz - i'm a fan of your postings and my basic technique is to repost all of your jokes/links a couple of weeks after youve posted them, hoping that everyone has forgotten about the originl (as most contributors here, except you and me and one or two oters, or even others, no I dont mean YOU, are clearly halfwits and drunkards) and claim credi for myself. look out for my forthcoming petty spat with denis, for example
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He also had another great one in the book...
"People say there is no solution to the problems in the Middle-East. Of course there is; athiesm."
Or words to that effect.
Genius.
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Blogdignag I am afraid I have the monopoly on petty spats with Denis. Next weeks will be taking place in Mayfair. We are trying to class up the place. Although if he refuses the rent for staying in my hotel he will be sent straight to jail.
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I'm insulted, Gaz. Not least cos you;re right on the bloody money. RBA - an oldie but a very goodie.
I'm reminded of an old Yorkshire joke.
An old couple had been married for nigh on 60 years and it was coming up to the missus's birthday.
'What does tha want fuh thar buthday, lass?' he asks her.
'Tell you what' she says, 'I'd like tha to buy me a funeral plot on that hill at the top of the dale. Then when I pass on, I'll know that even as I lie there I'll be able to look down that valley on my favourite people and places for all eternity.'
'That's right nice, luv, of course you can have it.'
A year passes, and the next birthday is coming up for the old lass.
'What does tha want fuh thar buthday, lass?' he asks her again.
'Ooh, I'd like a nice thick and bloody expensive mink coat' she says.
'B*gger that' he says. 'You haven't used present I bought yer last year yit.'
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Blogadingdong/RoboRobson...will that be an all ticket event?
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479. At 4:28pm on 28 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:
Blogdignag I am afraid I have the monopoly on petty spats with Denis. Next weeks will be taking place in Mayfair. We are trying to class up the place. Although if he refuses the rent for staying in my hotel he will be sent straight to jail.
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Gaz, Denis. Real pillocks would settle things over a game of Scrabulous on that Facebook thingy.
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I dont think Frankie would have argued for half a day on the Torres/Evra incident though to be fair.
Might have to get his Autobigraphy though, must drop hints before my forthcoming birthday to friends and family... though maybe not, as last time I received an autobiography as a gift I ended up with Mourinhos! (This sounds like a disease when I read that back, but its not... well maybe it is, it apparently makes people refer to you as the 'special one' anyway)
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they censor frankie boyle?? hes got awy with :
Would anyone else like to see hostages in videos being a bit more humorous? Some guy who's about to get his head chopped off with a sword turning around going: "Short back and sides please, big man!"
and
I say we should negotiate with terrorists-
"What's Allah offering you lads, 100 virgins?
We'll give you 50 slags...
and
I hate this time of year, sitting around the table with family listening to Grandad's war stories.
We don't care how many Jews you killed Grandad.
Waht on earth did they censor?????
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It was going to be a Cluedo based affair but I was afraid of his candlestick in the bedroom.
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He insulted Rebecca whats her faceingtons nose?
And she is an olympic hero at swimming... honestly! The sooner they get darts in the olympics the better...
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480, nice joke, Thank goodness for Google Translate, My Northern"s not up to scratch
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A lead piping in the billiard room is no joke either
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#14. TommyOnion, Right on. What does Owen owe Liverpool? Try some loyalty. He left to Real because he wanted to. there is no loyalty in that.
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/10/27/frankie-boyle-reveals-why-he-quit-mock-the-week-and-spills-beans-on-new-channel-4-show-115875-21776859/
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488. At 4:36pm on 28 Oct 2009, Robbo Robson wrote:
A lead piping in the billiard room is no joke either
Right on cue.
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Of course he could've stayed and continued to play with reasonable players and not win much. Or go to Real Madrid... Difficult choice, but I'll admit, not one that requires you to run down your contract.
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this is all like reading some kind of incomprehensible avant grde, nouveau and very vague french novel with non sequitur as the central trope and translated into a little known dialect of swahili
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Robbo, with the news that Ashley has take Newcastle off the market, it may be a good time for the next chapter of the bible according to St James.
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he is selling the naming rights to St James though i read?
I say we each chip in a fiver and name it "the Robbo Robson Up the Boro Stadium" or something else?
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There gonna literaly be loving him (Ashley) to death up in Geordie land now.
Say what you want about them, but they´re never dull.
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I see Agassi has admitted taking crystal meth.
I always knew there was a reason why he married Steffi Graf.
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497 Gaz, I often wondered about that.
It always seemd to me that that was a game, set and mis~match.
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Didnt know we had company today lads. The Wise One is in the house.
Are still sticking to your pre-season pre-dicktions then Robbo?
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I dunno lads, Brooke Shields, Steffi Graf, tough call!
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