Adebayor deserves all he gets
A few years back I was enjoying a free role in a Blue Bell match (free as in I was sub so I was free to do what the hell I liked) when our centre-forward was felled by some hairy giant redwood of a man.
When it came to the theatrics, our frontman made Drogba look like one of them dopey child-men presenters off of CBeebies, but on this occasion the twang of hamstring was unmistakeable.
Now I'm nominally a holding midfielder who sits, often literally sits, in front of the back four. I wasn't expecting to be the team's spearhead at 2-2 with 20 minutes to go, but that's where I was put.
Any road, Tony Thompson's missus had tumble-dried our white shirts that week so that only a 12-year-old with shoulders the width of Peter Crouch could have fitted in them comfortably and, well to put it sympathetically, the long, diligent hours I'd spent in the Blue Bell were making themselves known beneath the shrunken polyester.
Here's to Robbo
My midriff resembled a fat badger trying to escape under a tablecloth. This prompted our opponents' little fan club - a curious batch who must all have been related to one another as there wasn't a chin between them - to pipe up with the usual hilarious terrace chants:
'Who ate all the pies?'
'When's it due?'
'I've heard of a six-pack, mate, that must be a one-pack.'
And the less literary but undeniable 'You fat *******, you fat *******!'
I didn't cope all that well. I tried to make up for the barracking by tackling like Paul Scholes, passing like Vinnie Jones, going for headers like a three-year-old with his bootlaces tied together, and displaying the first touch of Emile Heskey in sponge boots.
The mirth grew and I got worse. Then, two minutes into injury-time, a corner, a bit of bagatelle and the ball slapped in the wet mud in front of us like a divine roast chicken falling into the lap of a devout and hungry man. I laced it past the keeper without blinking.
And who did I head for? The boss? Nah. Me team-mates? Nah - they'd been giving me a load of gyp 'n' all. No I hared off towards the fans with the non-forking family tree and waved two clenched fists in their faces.
Which brings me to the heroes of Eastlands on Saturday. The stewards. Emmanuel Adebayor couldn't have done more to encourage a pitch invasion had he gone on to the PA system and told everyone that the Phoenix Four were going to be appearing in the centre-circle. But some steely blokes in luminous jackets did the club proud.
In my case, there weren't any stewards. Just a clutch of pug-ugly mugs staring back at me and clicking their knuckles. No one had a shower after that game - just straight on the minibus with Robbo picking up the valeting bill from the bus hire firm afterwards.
It was a daft thing to do and I learned me lesson sharp-ish, but if Adebayor thinks he can get away with his Gary Nevillian vaudevillian act by saying, 'well, y'know, I was a bit over-emotional' then he's living in the land where reason sleeps (otherwise known as the inside of Serena Williams's head).
He had 90 yards to rethink it. He's a bit of an old woman anyway, Emmanuel, so 90 yards should've offered him at least seven changes of mind. He should thank his lucky stars he didn't used to play for Millwall.
I keep reading that he feels 'loved again' at City. Now the desperate neediness is bad enough, but it also proves how out of touch footballers are these days. You let all and sundry know you want to be at Barca and the Arsenal fans go off you a bit. Lack of loyalty is repaid with lack of loyalty. It's how it is.
Three years back I told the wife's family that I couldn't come to a dull old christening 'cos I had to watch a Boro reserve match against Wigan. I think it got the message across - it wasn't like the first team had been in sparkling form either - but I didn't exactly expect to be the toast of the town at the next gathering (whenever I get me next invite). Put yourself in the position of an ardent supporter and get over yourself, mate.
The stamp wasn't too special either. Van Persie did right with that blog - emphasising that it wasn't an excuse for the defeat. I reckon three-match bans for each offence might do the job.
Six matches off. Three weeks... how soon before Adebayor feels unloved again?
I know you're in Manchester, mate but you're already starting to sound like blinking Morrissey. Big Mouth Strikes Again.
I dedicate 'You're The One For Me Fatty' to my old mate Robbo
In the interview afterwards he was this charming man but what difference does it make? And when confronted by Gallas over his behaviour he apparently replied 'William It Was Really Nothing'. And wasn't it Morrissey who came up with a solo album called Your Arsenal?
I'll stop. That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore.
I suppose it should be acknowledged that the Fand-Abu-Dhabi-Dozy consortium must be right pleased with Sparky's start. They look good.
Can't see Adebayor and Robinho not going missing halfway through the season - but you won't need this Shergar and Lord Lucan double-act 'cos come Christmas there's always Santa Cruz and his little helpers Tevez and Bellamy. City, genuine title contenders? You never blinking know.
Chelsea are still the team to beat, mind. These scuffy little last-minute efforts are the stuff of champions.
I'm Derek Robson. People call me Robbo. Legend has it I was raised in the furnace and smog of Teesside. Some might say I took the hard road. I like to tell folk I had trials for Middlesbrough, for Hartlepool and for burglary (not guilty). I've always loved sport. My job is to say it as I see it - whether it's in the bar of the Blue Bell or on this blog. You won't find me calling a spade a soil-redistribution implement.
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And we're back to the dark old days of recycled cliches and worn out stereotypes.
Hurrah
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If you attract players for money and money alone, you should know what you're getting long before it arrives.
Is it really of any surprise to people that Adebayor has behaved like a petulant child?
It's a shame for City though as it is taking the edge off what was a very impressive victory for them.
However, he is also getting a very hard ride on the back of something that a lot of Premiership players do or have done in the past. Neville, Gerrard, Rooney, Bellamy, Keane, Shearer et all - they've all kissed the badge, cupped the ear, signalled or whatever - in one way or another.
It isn't an excuse for what he did, but the news is old now and the quality of the result of being forgotten.
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A fine and cheerful end to my monday morning which has so far consisted of work, rain and the mum in law.
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Just remind me again, who exactly threw the chair at the steward. Oh yes, the poor Arsenal supporters. I would NEVER behave like that, now would thousands of others like me.
Stop making excuses for badly behaved fans.
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Robbo, top form fella, and a welcome read on what has been a tawdry Monday morning... (Is it just me or are weekends getting shorter?) Ade was a bit of a mug for his celebration, but the gooner boys have to shoulder a little blame as well... You couldn't get away with that at the Recreation Ground I tells ya, he'd of been Ade-bye-byes... Our stewards are a decent lot, but i get the feeling when it kicks off a few adopt the attitude of "let them get it out there systems"...
Still Citeh looking like a genuine threat, i was sure it would all go pear shaped early doors for them (couple of clichés for you know who!) but they are looking decent... Though with Ades ban and injuries to Robinho, Santa and Tev's they are somehow short on strikers??? Which leaves it all down to Bellamy... I'm gonna do what he cant and stick my neck out here... I think they do all right!
Big shout out to the usual naysayer’s, i want to say well done to Andre for getting the number one comment on a blog that was not even being promoted on the beeb site yet, thus proving you have gone out of your way to make your little criticism... You and Joe "the Roach" Davis are like the channel "Dave"... Amusing, even though it is the same old $#!t repeated time and time again...
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Two blogs on the same subject.
Not one mention of the away fans' appalling behaviour from either author.
Hmmm.
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great blog robbo...stands apart from most of the press coverage in that it's spot on about how that idiot has no grasp of consequence.
he openly tarts himself round europe all summer. then wonders why he's no longer loved. a situation which he very easily could have put right with some blistering performances last season...but no, he lazes around and is barely visible most games...and whinges to all and sundry about how arsenal fans don't love him.
then he thinks there'll be no consequences if he decides to celebrate a goal in front of the Arsenal fans. i'm not excusing the missile throwing or the steward getting hurt, but honestly what did he expect? most players don't celebrate when they score against old clubs, but not that classless lump. as one Arsenal blog i read said, he is the one paid huge amounts of money and that there was bitterness from Arsenal fans is because they were the ones whose season tickets etc were paying him to amble about last season
i hope the FA throw the book at him. I for one am so pleased he will never again wear our shirt
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I'm no fan of Adebayor, Manchester City or Arsenal but can't help feeling they all deserve each other. Sure, the player was wrong to run 90 yards and celebrate in front of the Gooner hordes, but I think I'd have been tempted to do the same as him after the dog's abuse he'd been getting throughout the game from those same fans. So he gave them a little back and they couldn't take it, makes them all equally at fault in my eyes. What is it with fans that makes them think they have the right to shout and chant awful, obscene things at players and then have an attack of vapours when that player gives them a little back? The FA should ban Adebayor for his celebration if they must, but they should ban the Arsenal fans from attending away fixtures for an equal time. A plague on both their houses.
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Adebayor does deserve all he gets.
What's being done about the fan or fans that threw the objects?
I've not seen any hint of investigation or statements from the FA or Arsenal to the effect that those fans identified will be served banning orders. I can only hope that these hooligans will be identified and banned but sadly because the focus is on Adebayor it seems like they'll get away with it.
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Yes Adebayors actions were crazy in charging the full length of field to celebrate in front of opposition fans BUT I seem to remember a certain Terry Henry doing it to Spurs fans a few years ago and there wasn't any outrage form the Gooners fans then!!!!!!!!!
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Can't wait to see how Citeh handle this affair. Do they try to take the sting out of it by fining (and therefore blaming) their loved up star, and hope this might knock one or two games off the certain FA ban, or back his 'it was nothing' defence - a risky proposition always likely to fail, unless of course you can convince the suits at Lancaster Gate that Van Persie simply had a very close, very quick look at Adebayor's boot, in the same way that Neil Lennon (boo hiss!) headbutted Shearer (Gawd bless)'s trusty Umbro all those years ago. Thankfully justice was served then. Right.
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Can a player be held responsible for the actions of the fans?
While Adebayor's actions were questionable at best, he was still on the pitch, he made no gesture to the fans other than sliding on his knees.
However, the Arsenal fan's reaction was, frankly, indefensible. Especially when considering the (alleged) racist chants aimed at Adebayor during the game.
I wonder if the author of this blog really believes what he writes, or is it simply an attempt to generate cheap controversy? Well done.
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Adebayor shouldn't have legged it the whole length of the pitch to celebrate, but plenty of other footballers have done more or less the same.
The Arsenal fans are responsible for their own behaviour and if one man sliding in front of them on his knees makes them that angry, they should seek help.
Adebayor was booked for his celebration, which, rightly or wrongly, is the correct punishment according to the laws of the game.
His kick on Van Persie seems to have been overlooked, but was definitely the worse crime of the two.
Shame this overlooked a great game and a pivotal moment in Manchester City's emergence as a potential top four side.
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I think Adebayor's run to the Arsenal fans was pretty nifty myself. Mind everything kind of slowed down in that "is he really going where we think he is" slow motion disbelief. The fans though should not be excused because Adebayor had an itch to scratch - they were a misbehaved bunch of hooligans. Good to see the stewards dealing with them with no bother at all though lol. Soft southern pansies;)
As for Adebayor's stamp on Van Persie (I thnk he was going for his hand myself before his head got in the way). Surely just a reaction to Van Persie's reckless two footed challenge.
I shouldn't be defending the bitters I really shouldn't but Arsenal are so precious about every little thing that goes against them and then defended to the hilt by the London based media that I can't help it.
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What did Adebayor do wrong exaclty?
Lets look at the facts:
He scored a goal (not against the rules)
He celebrated (not against the rules)
He raked his boot across RVP's face (against the rules)
What did the Arsenal fans do wrong:
They tried to get onto the pitch (against the rules)
They threw a chair, among other things,at him (against the rules)
So yes he should be banned for the RVP assault, 3 matches I would say.
But for nothing else.
If fans can't take stick i.e. a goal celebration in front of them then they shouldn't dish it out. Simples.
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"Robbo/Niall"
"I'll stop. That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore."
Yes for once you are right. No please apply this to your entire blog and I think you will understand where I am coming from.
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I think AW does pay his players a lot less than what the market will pay them. Professionals, as they are (duly aided by their agents, I might add) they start positioning for more money the moment they get some recognition all the while forgetting where they were before joining Arsenal.
Ade let it know us the last season that he wanted more cash or will leave. He can’t put that on Arsenal.
But once he let us know loud and clear that he didn’t want to be at the club anymore and then play like he did the last season where a half blind man can see how lazy and petulant he had become (all on purpose, considering his current season shows what he really can do if he wants to) don’t expect love from the fans.
The fans were absolutely wrong in their reaction to the provocation. They shouldn’t have done that.
However, the way he kicked v.Persie showed us all what a despicable character he really is. I hope he gets banned for a couple of games at least.
I am for once glad he will never wear a shirt with an Arsenal badge again.
On a side note, am I the only one that thinks all these on and off filed controversies that are following Arsenal team this season might do them a load of good? Bring the team together? Make men out of some of the boys?
Here is hoping.
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#8 - Loan Arranger
You are spot on Sir. In many ways it could be argued that a player should be able to celebrate (within reason) in front of opposition fans but I think I'd draw the line at running 90yards to do so. But what a baying mob the gooners were when he got there! It always strikes me as odd that they surge forward, confident in the knowledge that they won't get to their target - a bit like a Haka being delivered by a school team prior to a game of tag rugby. Used to be referred to as 'all mouth'. As others say, Adebayor had put up with a load of nonsense all afternoon, so why couldn't he (pretty harmlessly, other than the gooners' reaction)rub their collective nose in it?
That said, the flick of his studs at Van Persie was disgusting and his flouncing around in the Arsenal half prior to kick off was a bit of bravado of his own - safe in the knowledge that no Arsenal player could give him a good smack in the mouth for his trouble.
Adebayor, Tevez, Ronaldo, Bellamy, Drogba, Bowyer......there's an endless list of players that will do the dirty and generally act like tw*ts as the fancy (pound) takes them but as someone points out - our tickets pay them. Does that mean we get the players (and attitude) we deserve??
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Not that I will shed a tear for Adebayor if he gets the book thrown at him, but is this kind of reaction to the violence essentially telling fans they can do whatever the hell they want so long as a single footballer does something to provoke them?
I've seen comments from the media and people of the game saying things along the lines of "It's not the fault of the Arsenal fans that the steward got hurt"... What the hell? Of course it is! Adebayor might have behaved like an idiot and he certainly caused trouble with his actions, but at what point does his action render the reason and thought processes of violent fans no longer illegal?
Ridiculous scenario. If someone makes fun of me and I go and smash someone over the head with a chair, I will probably go to prison. It's NOT THE FAULT OF THE PERSON MAKING FUN OF ME.
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"It always strikes me as odd that they surge forward, confident in the knowledge that they won't get to their target - a bit like a Haka being delivered by a school team prior to a game of tag rugby. Used to be referred to as 'all mouth'."
ControlledMagic - lol my sentiments precisely.
By the way I'm not defending the Adebayor stamp (previous post) but Van Persie's scything challenge that initiated the reaction seems to have gone uncommented on.
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The FA recently announced that there was no place for homophobic, or racist abuse, in football. That, by default, implies that there is a place for other forms of abuse. I remember the FA investigating 'racist' chanting, where they thought fans were chanting "You black b******". They dropped the charges, when they discovered the fans were chanting "You fat b******". Surely it is the word b****** that is offensive. All abuse, whether dished out to the players by 'fans', or dished out to the referee, by the players and fans, is unacceptable. I went to see Southend play Orient, 10 days back, and my evening was spoilt by a foul mouthed ignorant yob, behind me, who yelled abuse at the ref all the way through the game. It definitely puts me off the idea of going again.
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Sorry but the way he has bin treated go for it son also gooners that cant behave properly are kinda bin let of cuz of his celebration but omg it brought a smile to my face watching him dash 100 yards to do that, oh i hate what happened to him but hten i hate arsenal the more important point is we are covering up fans behaviour under emmanuel's 100 m race
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I agree with your sentiments. A lesson needs to be learned and the FA must exercise some powerif only to send a message to all other 'over emotional' celebratory sprints that are designed to incite a riot. Not to mention TWO spiteful challenges only to inflict damage and pain to the recipients, viz , stamping on Fabregas, deliberately in an attempt to put him out of the game - a sending off offence? Stamping on Van Persie - spiteful malicious dangerous play - a sending off offence?
So we have three events two of which deserved straight red cards = 6 games off, plus the incitement charge another 2 at least = 8. Man City will then put in an appeal, hopefully deemed frivolous by the FA and then given further 1 match bans on all 3 counts = 11. Seems reasonable to me. After all Paulo di Canio got 12 and he only lightly pushed the referee with the palm of his hand!!
Perhaps the FA should round it up to 12 so the much loved Man City striker has the same sentence as the Italan star, then at least he will have one person who sympathizes with him.
TWELVE of the best that's what I say!!
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The actions of the 'classy' Arsenal fans was a disgrace, the FA need to stop this love affair with 'The Arsenal' and do sumot about their away supporters. As for Adebayor had a good game but the stamp on van Persie was awful! His celebration ok was due to emotion and the stick he got but have some common sense and be a role model to youngsters watching the game and show that you don't need to sink to their level you just need to rise above it by scoring the goal and celebrating with your new fans!! Can see Adebayor getting suspended for 6 games and thats without the apparant stamp on Cesc which I didn't see. As for van Persie again awful attempt at a two footed challenge.
Robbo good blog gave me a good giggle!! As for JDR, mate your entilted to your opinion about this blog, but comon mate also comment about the issues this blog is raising your starting to bore me and I used to find you entertaining!
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As for Adebayor's stamp on Van Pirsie. In that stadium where 40,000 witnesses and there were loads of coppers on duty. Instead of a three match ban, how about a copper entering the field of play, nicking Adebayor for assault, and carting him off in handcuffs. He'd soon clean his act up.
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JDR and Redastaire: if you dont like the blog then don't read it. Either that or cheer up (jeez, you must be Palace fans!!)
Adebayor represents everything that is wrong with the modern footballer, (in the same way that Ashley Cole did a few years ago.) He also like many of these so-called professionals seems to think he can behave however he likes without persecution.
Do you think he realises he is an idol to kids and they copy and imitate his behaviour. So will we now see children kicking each other in the face at their games.
In tandem with this the FA should throw the book at him and Arsenal should not be allowed any supporters for 4/5 games at home and they should have a fine...
The Arsenal "fans" who allegedly threw seats and made racist chants represent everything that is wrong with idiot "fans" who are aren't there for the football and who bring the English game back to the dark ages of the hooligans who almost removed the beautiful game from our country.
This is probably not helped by films glamorising football hooliganism which there seem to be more and more of each week.
Robbo - your blogs are top drawer - keep writing them, ignore the haters. Come on u Super Hoops-A !!!
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Why do these hard as nails, tell 'em like it is merchants always react the same when after directing a torrent of abuse and vitriol towards some 'overpaid traitor' who finally snaps suddenly turn into offended maidens? As yer Mam or any grown-up used to say "don't start what you can't finish!" Grow up lads you got the reaction you were after surely or did you really expect something different?
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Robbo, good to see that the vast majority of contributors are homing in on the subject matter, without bleating about your 'style'.
JDR - your chutzpah is wasted here. Seriously - find a real cause to champion. There are many injustices in the world far worse than being (voluntarily) subjected to 'northern stereotyping'. Broaden your horizons and make your tenacity count. Start by leaving your room once in a while.
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I reckon they're both as bad as each other. Adebayor was unprofessional twice, the retaliation was the worst as being most dangerous, but Van Persie challenge looked like a 2 footer and both should've been off the pitch. MOTD commented mainly on Adebayor; no-one had a proper go at the fans who retaliated, which was a missed opportunity. Looked like they were all too excited about Adebayor's immaturity to think about football hooliganism - or is it because we're going for the World Cup bid and the BBC don't want to be accused of stirring it up?
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31 - this 'overpaid traitor' stamped on the face of his former team-mate - and yes, it was a stamp, he looked where the van persie was, then moved his foot at his face. ok, the celebrations were more conspicuous, but show me a set of fans that wouldn't react like that to a player - ronaldo will get booed when he goes back to united, for sure. so it was adebayor who should have expected it, and reacted a lot better. that kick was one of the most malicious things i have ever seen on a football pitch - he was lucky not to blind rvp.
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The FA should introduce a new rule that players cannot celebrate in front of and incite opposing fans (automatic red card).
Until that happens. then Adebayor has done nothing technically wrong.
We all know he was stupid but so were the Arsenal fans for inciting him in the first place.
I think he should only be charged with the 'head kick' !
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JDR - go to a pub (one that still has a 'public bar'). Try to do it on a Sunday lunchtime when the punters are discussing yesterdays matches. Stand an listen.
This blog is not meant to be purple prose - or even something worthy of the cheapest tabloids. It is not ever intended to be the subject of any awards. It is supposed to be a bit of provocative, but tongue in cheek, amusement. YOU, matey, are occupying too much of our collective time; blog responses are not supposed to be commentary on the quality of the blog (and I'd say that to all the 'keep up the good work' bods too, but recognise most aer havign to say that to rebuff you) but on the subject.
Did you answer any exam question which ended "discuss" with some counter question about the quality of the question?? No, I shouldn;t have thought so. So don't do it here, just do one. Please.
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To me Adebayor's stamp on Van Persie was far worse than his celebration, but few people seem to agree. I think he deserves a serious punishment.
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@loveQPR
I agree with some of your comments, however. The article barely mentions the behavior of the fans. Like it wasn't worth mentioning because actually Adebayor made them throw chairs, chant racist abuse and make them injure a steward.
Adebayor is guilty of stupidity, but there are many things in life that ARE stupid, but NOT necessarily illegal. His kick to Van Persie's cheek is a different issue entirely, and should be dealt with as such.
Should Robbo Robson also be punished for his lack of noggin?
My point (football aside) - This blog is another cheap excuse to generate a bit of controversy.. and look, it's working.
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JDR - Your mindless critisism of a light-hearted sports blog is embarrassing. I can only imagine you look and behave like Mr Burns from The Simpsons.
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I think the goal celebreation was fantastic and thoroughly deserved by the Arsenal fans for the abuse he has received this season and the end of last.
The reaction was disgusting but proved that Arsenal fans are just bullies - don't mind giving it out but can't take it back - i am so happy he scored and so happy he celebrated with you!! (And i'm not an Arsenal fan)
There should be no punishment for the celebration as he was booked at the time. I do however like the comment that Arsenal fans get banned for as many game as Adebayor gets banned - 6 of one, half of a dozen of the other so its only fair if the ban comes for the celebration.
In terms of the stamp, it looks like its on puropse to me so throw the book at him because we do not want to see that in the game. I don't believe that kids copy that sort of behaviour personally but the FA have to be tough so it does not happen again elsewhere.
Great win though - the Premiership will not be a 4 team competition this year which is great news for the neutral. I hope they beat United at Old Trafford now - throw the cat amongst the pigeons a little bit more!
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as always, great blog robbo.
i've just come up with a theory... i think that JDR is actually robbo in a different persona. he signs in for every blog to give himself some grief just to watch all the replies bigging up his blog, thus being able to show his beeb bosses that people do love him.
if that isn't the case JDR, you got some serious issues goin lookin for stuff that you know you don't like.
right time to go and make something i don't like for lunch!
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Just for a moment, but no - the JDR thingy is back.
I wonder where he has been for the last couple of blogs or so??
Somewhere away from any sharp instruments I suppose.
Good blog Robbo, that's twice that Chelsea have "scuffed" their way past us (Potters) this year, do not see any gripes from them about Manchester United time do we?
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I expect a big ban for Adebayor, I mean if 2 games for a dive is the going rate then it must be pretty high for in sighting a riot? Don't you agree?
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Maybe he knows something we don't about Van Persie, as after watching the Holland Scotland game last week I noticed Darren Fletcher and him involved in a personal battle where they were each attempting to floor eachother with a tackle as often as they could. Is the dutchman somewhat of a wind up merchant, is he well liked?
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6 games off WITH PAY, cant be bad!! Players should be fined min 3 months salary - now THAT will hit them more than any phoney holiday with pay. Besides, during the ban he is off earning mega bucks doing promotions etc.
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I'm dying to hear uber-chump Garry Cook's thoughts on the matter, to be honest.
Listening to the man who proudly claimed that Shinawatra's background was irrelevant as "he's a great guy to play golf with" and claimed Kaka "bottled" a move to playing alongside Craig Bellamy, Micah Richards and Nigel de Jong will provide this affair with the comic enlightenment needed.
Agree that the Arsenal fans yelling abuse at Adebayor all game need identified (shades of the Sol Campbell situation) and banned, but anyone trying to defend Adebayor's actions is deluded. You don't see raked faces in rugby nowadays, and I've never seen such a thoughtless and dimwitted goal celebration in my life.
Adebayor is a mercenary footballer who offered himself to Barca and Milan after one decent season at Arsenal and the Siteh fans shouldn't kid themselves where his loyalties lie (100% with himself).
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it is the arsenal fans who are to blame...the ignited the flame...and now its not so funny when adaboyors is doing the talking on the pitch.
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Robbo, I'm a simple lad, far less educated than you in the matters of jounalisim, perhaps the only thing in common we share is that "Tight Fitting" polyester jersey.
I totally disagree with your comments:
1. Van Perse incited the crowd, running not to the Aresnal fans behind the goal but to the CITY fans, screaming expletives.
2. The tackle made by Van Perse on Adebayor deserved a yellow card and thus the game would have been stopped.
I agree, Adebayor's celebrations were over the top but its the Arsenal fans who are responsible. Did the CITY fans riot when Van Perse hurled is torrent of abuse? No, Why? because we have more class mate, that it in a nutshell.
The only club who will benefit from this scenario are our rivals down the street because they must be scared to death that they will be Adebayor's next victim this coming Sunday.
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4. chris_cat wrote:
Just remind me again, who exactly threw the chair at the steward. Oh yes, the poor Arsenal supporters. I would NEVER behave like that, now would thousands of others like me.
Stop making excuses for badly behaved fans.
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Too true
Would Adebayor have run 90 yards if he hadn't been the target of abuse for 80 odd minutes? I doubt it. He should definitely been more professional but the whole thing could have been avoided if, like Wenger said in the morning papers, the abuse wasn't directed at him.
Also saw bananas being thrown at him - thought we had left those days behind.
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Just out of interest, where was Junior Stanislaz's 3 match ban for celebrating in front of the Millwall fans and causing his own supporters to invade the pitch, apparently he doesn't need one, something to do with being young and inexperienced, oh, and being English probably helped him too??? it does seem as though the 2009/10 season is going to be the season of the knee jerk over reaction from the press and the football authorities to any one paid over 50k a week doing anything wrong, especially if they are foriegn, because it doesn't matter if they are banned, it's not going to affect thier chances of getting in the England squad is it
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Towards the end of last season our captain, Kevin Nicholls, was banned for 5 games for 'inciting' the home fans into hurling abuse at the referee. I agreed with the ban then (even though there was seemingly no video evidence and Nico denied the allegations), so may I just say that this is one fan who is hoping Adebayor DOES get banned for this behaviour. Soimply because I am a bitter man and would love to see the authorities act with a little consistancy over the leagues.
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Firstly, although Arsenal fans acted poorly, the players on the pitch are meant to be role models and set the example... every action has a reaction and that is exactly what Ade's celebration caused. he was the catalist and deserves everything he gets. As for the Arsenal fans i reckon they will take a look at it and pick out a few of the missile throwers, however unlike with other crowd problems there wasn't a single group or person in the crowd that started the trouble, that pleb was on the pitch. Hopefully the guys that threw items will be punished as will Ade.
Good result for City though reckon they've got a good shot at the top four depending on injuries etc. Talk of Chelski being the side to beat, but we will have to wait until the african cup of nations start to see how their title chances are.
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"The only club who will benefit from this scenario are our rivals down the street because they must be scared to death that they will be Adebayor's next victim this coming Sunday."
LOL. Not afraid to death exactly but he does look a bit of a handful for you guys. Back to his best. I remember saying to a couple of blues about him being your best signing when they were throwing the Tevez signing in our face (I think Bellamy's better myself on Saturday's showing). Should be a good match - expect the same result as last year though lol.
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#13 & 18 and very likely many more from the same tiresome witling
I haven't really had a need to defend Robbo in a couple of years now as there are others here who do an exceptional job of bringing sound logic back into balance. In addition, I haven't been particularly pleased with him myself, after the insipid 'give Almunia a passport' bit coupled with his fingers being the last to clutch onto the Obama bandwagon long after it had already pulled out of town. I've even had pause to wonder whether McNulty's waiting for him whenever he gets down the pub just to tell him which pint he should be having. Nevertheless, anyone who reads wisely and well will understand that Robbo's similes consistently surpass any that appear in the media of our day. Quite simply, he has more natural humour than the wittiest Oxonian. It's a shame that we no longer have the benefit of hearing the immediacy of his wit as we once had before the blogs came along, but there's still enough here to bring a smile on a miserable day when no one else can. This isn't merely an opinion; it really is an observation steeped in fact. He's just funnier than anyone you're likely to know.
As for you, well, you're one of those nauseating creatures who's always determined to make a miserable day even moreso. It troubles me deeply that you feel it necessary to divulge a Christian name or to remove the public identity that enables a genuinely honest man to continue bringing lunchtime pleasure to more people than one such as yourself will ever reach in a lifetime. You really do come across as a stalking maniac, and I agree with the suggestion that you need a woman, any woman to rid you of this compulsive need to be an utter tos**r. The pity is that there isn't a single thing any of us can do about a person like you or your comrades in tissues; we just have to listen. We're older now and we have to put up with the misery that people like you create, but there was a time when we could well and truly throttle this limpness of spirit with a good muddy mess of rugby every other day. For the rest of us, it brought a smile to the rain. It saddens me that the new generation of Englishmen will never know the type of system that all but silenced rants such as yours before they ever got started. You're lucky to live in modern England, where people like you have the loudest opinions of any given day. After all, you've ensured that there aren't any playing fields left to redress the balance.
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Adebayor's behaviour is indefensible. Simple really. He acted disgracefully. There's no way he needed to run the full length of the pitch in that manner. What ever happened to the "shhhhh" celebration? Make the same statement but without the fuss. He was clowning about before the game in the Arsenal half as well, and then he kicked a former comrade in the face. He should be banned. The more I think about it the more outraged I become.
I'm a Leeds fan and I remember a fews ago Lee Bowyer getting stick at every ground in the country about his alleged and also indefensible behaviour. Yet he let his football do the talking. Rising to provocation in the way Adebayor did is only going to make it worse for him.
Adebayor is clearly a man of questionable integrity and this is the latest proof of that. Such a shame because he also a gifted footballer.
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Trying to think of some way to sum JDR up via an anagram, but all i could come up with is.........
Joe Davis Roach - Oh JDR has a voice
Which is kind of annoying really, because if he didnt we wouldnt have to listen to his unwanted opionions after every Robbo blog!
We know you dont find these funny, we know you dont find these topical, we know you find them repetetive, we know you think your god because you have done your "homework" and found out his real name, we know, we know, we know! We also know your a complete waste of blog time and space, so please for the love of god do us all a favour mate!
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"This prompted our opponents' little fan club - a curious batch who must all have been related to one another"
Amazing. Who says Middlesbrough fans lack a sense of irony. Just shows you can't judge a pie by the look of the crust.
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JDR- Do you watch a programme on TV every week that you dont like, lets say, Eastenders- and then spend the rest of the day writing in to Points Of View to complain about it ? and then when it hasnt changed because you dont like the fictional story line or a fictional character in it you write in to Points Of View again and complain ?
And you then repeat this process every week stuck in this tormented rut.
Or do you turn over the tele ?
This blog is how this blog is, I like it, but I dont write on it saying how much I like it every time Robbo writes a new piece.
Do yourself a favour-escape your tormented (irritating) rut and watch Eastenders or something !!!!
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That stamp was awful, I really hope Adebayor is banned for a substantial number of matches. Hughes won't suspend him though, he knows Ade would just go in a huff 'cos he no longer feels `loved`
Oh, and please don't stop JDR posting, he lightens the tone of the whole blog(!)
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The stamp was a terrible offense, and should get the retrospective ban. Why, however, can the players not give back a little? It was the fans who were throwing, if sliding in front of people counts as "incitement to riot" then who knows what could have happened if he swore at them or had a message on his shirt. The fans can't say "He incited me", they threw the chair, they are in this case ONE HUNDRED PERCENT to blame.
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What's RVPs face doing down there? O yeah, because he slid in?
Ade was going off balance, maybe his foot caught RVP.
Biter bit.
(Not quite like Gazza having a go at Gary Charles in that FA final and damaging his leg. Or the Keane incident few years back. But still...)
Also, Ade kept on the pitch. The fans were unruly.
If the fans can dish it they can take it (as Terry and Lampard said of the West Ham fans).
What's Ade to apologise for? It'd be height of hypocrisy - to say sorry when you're not and have no reason to be sorry.
BTW, when does AW walk away? 2010/1?
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it should be six games, three for the stamp and three for the celebration. Seems fair (i'm a Southend fan, so i'm not involved either way)
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JoeDavisRoach
Is that you Robbo, having a laugh at our expense?
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@54
"This isn't merely an opinion; it really is an observation steeped in fact. He's just funnier than anyone you're likely to know."
"Nevertheless, anyone who reads wisely and well will understand that Robbo's similes consistently surpass any that appear in the media of our day. Quite simply, he has more natural humour than the wittiest Oxonian."
"It saddens me that the new generation of Englishmen will never know the type of system that all but silenced rants such as yours before they ever got started. "
Incredible stuff. What planet are you on?
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RunawayJon1978 wrote:
Yes Adebayors actions were crazy in charging the full length of field to celebrate in front of opposition fans BUT I seem to remember a certain Terry Henry doing it to Spurs fans a few years ago and there wasn't any outrage form the Gooners fans then!!!!!!!!!
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if you mean thierry henry please learn to spell, you are so deluded and stupid, how would you feal if you had been paying adebayors wages for years and supporting him at arsenal aswell and he repays the fans by doing that?
its a bit different as henry would never join a useless club like spurs, spurs are terrible and are always going to be below par and sir alex showed all of us yesterday! in dramatic fasion!
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If players can be accused, charged with and punished for "incitement to riot" then how come the same thing can't be leveled at referees after they have made grotesquely bad decisions that inflame the supporters in the same way that certain player actions have
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Every post on here further secures the continuance of Robbo's blog. JDR probably doesn't realise this, and wouldn't care if he did, as he is only posting for the attention he receives. Every comment telling him to shut it further secures his presence. Thus the circle continues.
I thought the blog was good enough. I think Adeybyor, like JDR, just wants to be loved.
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Still amazes me that people, mostly City fans are defending Adebayor's actions.
Let's face it though the guy will soon throw his toys out the pram at City and push for a move away, will be glad to see the back of him, fast becoming another Drogba as are City becoming more and more like Chelsea.
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Robbo - i was hoping you would do a blog on Adebayor today... so cheers!
I think that Adebayor will get punished and rightly so... but i also think that it is about time supporters also just accepted that if you spend ages trying to provoke people (no matter how much they earn, or how they should be role models,etc) then sometimes those people well.. get provoked... and then give you a bit back..
I think that supporters can't take this high and mighty "we pay his wages" stance followd by the "supporters are part of football", we make the aptmosphere", etc... without then saying that it is fair if a player gives them a bit back... Adebayor wasn't going to hurt anyone by celebrating... so whilst i don't think the arsenal fans should have applauded him - i think they should just take it...
maybe i am out of touch with the average man on the street or average football fan... by being an average man and an average football fan... but i think that if you give someone some stick you should be aware that they may give you some back...
that said - i actaully quite liked it when cantona kicked that moron in the face - if someone said things about my mother then i would do the same... that is just life!
fair play Adebayor... now expect a ban
ps - he was briliant on Saturday - unplayable!
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Adebayor blatantly stamps on Van Persie's head and should have been sent off. There i sno way he was off balance when he did it - he aimed and struck and his offense was far worse than when Beckham and Rooney were sent off in World Cups for the same offence as he was aiming for the face - We could have very easily had a serious injury situation similar to when Stephen Hunt kicked Petr Cech a couple of seasons ago.
Also while the Arsenal fans should not behave the way they did Adebayor did his best to incite the crowd and should be charged by the police never mind the FA for incitement to riot or affray.
The boy is a numpty and 6 matches off and a few weeks fine will be enough to have him digging Berlusconi's phone number and bleating "Silvio, no-one loves me", to which he will get the reply "Poor boy. My problem is everyone loves me and I love everyone (mainly when my wife's not around) bye."
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Ah it's good to be back. Not good to see JDR being censored though, what's that all about, do you get censored now for repeating the same old claptrap over and over again?
So this week we have Mr. Adebayor behaving like a spoiled child then? Why is anyone surprised? Have you never seen or heard anything he has done in the past. It's like saying "Hang on a sec, that Gordon Brown is a bit rubbish isn't he!"
I don't like Adebayor, his stamp on Van Persie (although it's something we would all like to do) should be heavily punished. But as for his Usain Bolt impression... I don't have the slightest problem with it. It's the fans here who need to look at themselves. If you go to a match and spend 90 minutes doling out all the abuse you can think of (come on, we've all done it) to an opposition player and then get your over priced Armani's in a twist just because he does his job and puts you in your place then you don't have any right to get annoyed.
Of course the FA will blame Adebayor and the Arsenal fans will get off Scott free. Remember Gary Neville simply turned around from where he was standing (you couldn't expect the jessie to be running) and kissed his badge in front of the same Liverpool fans who had spent years calling him all the names under the sun. (This is the one and only thing I agree with Pool fans on by the way).
If you are a fan who thinks its ok to attack an opposition player, even one who has done the unthinkable of leaving your unbelievably over-rated team, then you are the one with a problem and, unthinkable as it may seem, you are the one who shouldn't be anywhere near a football stadium.
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I am not a fan of either club, though certainly interesting to read the comments on here. Whilst Adebayor's celebration definitely betrayed stupidity at best, the reaction of the Arsenal fans was similarily stupid. In fact, as they were intent on violence, it is arguably worse and I cannot believe that the FA have overlooked this issue.
Both Adebayor and Arsenal Football Club should be apologising to the poor steward.
As for the "stamp", I did not see it so cannot comment on it. However, it has been raised in certain comments (not by Arsenal fans) that the original tackle by RVP was also on the unpleasant side?? Is this true as RVP is hardly an angel and is prone to the odd stamp/elbow himself and you do wonder if a training ground bust-up has been remembered. Nonetheless, Adebayor should certainly face a ban if it was a stamp.
JDR - good to see that you still cannot actually comment on the content of the blog itself. Been a good debate this time round and as usual you are able to add nothing constructive at all. Thanks as always for your boring contribution.
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Adeybyor??!!
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#65 its a bit different as henry would never join a useless club like spurs, spurs are terrible and are always going to be below par and sir alex showed all of us yesterday! in dramatic fasion!
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Mate seriously?? I'm a united fan and spurs aren't a terrible team even without that little geneious modric. The spurs united game was unbelievable!! It had everything except 'incitement to riot', and last season when spurs played 'the arsenal' was again another incredible game, and their opening day victory this season was exciting, not bad for a below par team!
As for this weekend I hope adebayors playing, and the starts his lengthy ban after the derby, I want to watch another gripping game and city need him up front but I can see united will get the result in spectacular fashion again!!
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"living in the land where reason sleeps (otherwise known as the inside of Serena Williams's head" Lov' it Robbo! Lov'it!!
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#72 - RVP's tackle was clumsy, a forward's tackle, but no worse than countless other tackles over the weekend. And to be fair contact was very minimal. Adebayor knew exactly what he was doing. It's hilarious that he has suggested it wasn't on purpose.
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"What is it with fans that makes them think they have the right to shout and chant awful, obscene things at players and then have an attack of vapours when that player gives them a little back?"
That's how I see it. And of course there'd be every bit as much of an outcry if the player involved was English, wouldn't there?
Also, funniest blog I've read so far. Now I want to hear more about the Blue Bell team...
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I still like to see people using proper spelling and grammar whenever they can, instead of this tendency to shorten into 'txt spk' - probably because I find it harder rather than simpler to read
Thanks then to simpledim for correcting the 'are' to a 'ave' (#25 and 26), which is hardly the worst error in your comment and surely should have an h?!
I found that funny - can JDR please tell me what is and isn't funny so I can be sure if I should?
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I was at the game, and there was a definite tension from the arsenal players and fans towards Adebayor through the game even during the warm up, The fact that he got kicked through most of the first half, and was racially abused by Arsenal fans at this time was to quote that famous Scottish detective "beyond the pale".
If he meant the the flick at van pierse after the 3rd two footed challenge on him then by all means throw the book at him.
Regards the celebration, i thought he went to far but then the Arsenal fans went further by throwing banana's, coins, bottles and chairs at him, along with the chant about Elephants and Whores this seemed more racial than hatred which Arsenal and the FA should be more worried about than a player over celebrating a goal.
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As an Arsenal fan I think the behaviour of the Arsenal away fans was unforgiveable. Sure Adebayor wound them up but a steward (a normal person doing a regular job) had to be taken to hospital after being hit by a missile. Sometimes football matters need to be kept in proper perspective.
As far as Adebayor goes I think that the alleged stamp is a far more serious offence than the celebration.
Fantastic blog!
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Same standard BBC views, different "humour" voice. Adebayor was an idiot, but Van Persie was an angel. Players are to blame for everything, and fans shouldn't have any expectation that what they say or do might come back on them.
All very boring really.
Yes, we know Adebayor made his bed at Arsenal, but they never seemed to really get behind him anyway - they were still finding it hard to stomach losing their idol, Henry.
But as you started to say before you realised it wasn't in line with BBC views, all he wanted to do was ram their taunts down their throats, and fair enough. The FA has it plain wrong to ban celebrating. Just like they banned taking off your shirt. Pathetic, and misses the point. The players are exhilerated but have to control themselves, so why isn't it expected that the fans should expect to control their language and behaviour a bit too? They didn't, so why should he?
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cowlsepe
your comrades in tissues;
Absolutely Fabulous, classic put down.
And as for #69- Yes I liked it when Cantona kicked that Palace numpty as well. He was giving him grief, called him mum a 'lady of the night'The red mist came down and he got thumped for it. A load of people in the crowd around him were laughing at the insults until they felt the presence of Cantona and suddenly they realised that it wasn't clever to insult and abuse someone at a match in case the player decided to do something about it.
It wasn't right but the fan did deserve it and Eric deserved teh ban - Adebayors shoudl be for 12 months though simply cause he's an ex-Arsenal player who plays for City and the only person worse could be an ex-Liverpool, Arsenal & City player playing for our rivals.
Step forward the (surprisingly well-behaved) Nicolas Anelka
Although a nice guest spot appears for Craig Bellamy if you swap Arsenal for Wedt Ham
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Amazing if Adebayor was so offended why did he not show the same passion when the the Man Utd & Spurs fans were singing vile songs at him last season, if I recall against United in both games he founs a big hole & crawled in it?
I can forgive him the goal celebration (Henry did it at Highbury against Spurs a few seasons back, sprinting the length of the pitch to celebrate @ the Clock End) but he should not have been on the pitch to do it. He stamped on Fabregas's ankle 1st half & van Persies head 2nd!!! Did Clattenbergs new found hair plugins cause his fringe to be in his eyes, the van Persie one was right in front of him & he did nothing although he onviously saw it!!!
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Post 35: Footyfanjackhalford writes: "The FA should introduce a new rule that players cannot celebrate in front of and incite opposing fans (automatic red card)."
So no celebration for away players at grounds with 90% home fans.....I don't think that will work.
Adebayor was an idiot with his celebration, but what do we expect from people who have been spoiled all their "working" life and always been surrounded with people who tell them how wonderful they are. On balance it is surprising that some of them develop into reasonable human beings.
The stamp on Van Persie (however much he deserved it) is undoubtedly a minimum of 3 games suspension. Surprised that the ref missed it as he was in a good position.
And finally, through gritted teeth...Well played City. You have a good one in Hughes.
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There is no way that it is the fans fault, the fans chant at everymatch you fools, adebayor simply couldnt stick it. He obviouslly cannot be that good if no top teams snapped him up, for all im concerned he can wrot in hell
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Pillock! Why mention Millwall? Tarred with the same brush eh? West Ham been sorted yet or was that all Millwall too?
Absolute garbage.
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Just like they banned taking off your shirt. Pathetic
I don't know I've heard of some people who still have nightmares about Giggs' hairy chest in that '99 semi. Apparently Viera, Adams and Bergkamp manage to sleep therough the night now (with the help of recordings of Alan Shearer on match of the day)
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I love that the press seem to have glossed over the fact that the Arsenal fans started throwing things at Adebayor after celebrating- even insinuating that it was Adebayors fault that they did that.
Even though he celebrated in front of thousands of men who had been verbally assaulting him all day, there is NO excuse for hurling projectiles at anyone.
Adebayor shouldn't be apologising to the injured steward, it should be the group of disgusting Arsenal fans that decided to hurl projectiles at a man who was venting his frustration (in a somewhat childish manner)
I support neither club, but it seems ridiculous to blame Adebayor for the steward getting injured.
Arsenal fans: if you can't take all the mocking and insults you hurled at someone coming back to smack you in your face, then don't dish it out.
Simple.
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if certain teams don't get promoted in tyne & wear come the end of the season - will you still feel unloved robbo ??
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Ade deserves a 3 game ban for the stamp on Van Persie as it was clearly deliberate. Not sure he meant to specifically kick him in the head but he certainly meant to kick him.
Neville got no ban for his inciting of Liverpool fans so no penalty should be given Ade either. The ref booked him for it and other than an FA warning he should receive no more punishment.
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Whats all this mass hyteria and nobody stopping to think or use their brains for a second?
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#91 considering Middlesbrough play in Teesside (used to be Cleveland) one suspects that Robbo would be quite please that no-one in Tyne and Wear got promoted
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There's a very simple solution to this one Robbo: get Serena Williams banned from tennis for a while, Ade banned from football for a while and bring them together to engage in wild passion after telling each other about the muthaf***ers in their lives who are beneath their presence, ever again?
And as Serena said she'd better have a child if she wants to win the US Open again and as Ade needs the responsibility of fatherhood a la Wayne Rooney to calm him down, this will surely be Rupert Murdoch's dream ticket to sell 5 million copies of NOTW and whatever dodgy rags he owns Stateside, eh?
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Also, why no critisism of the idiot Arsenal fans who threw things on the pitch and injured a steward? celebrating a goal is no excuse for this type of reaction yet nothing has been said.
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Totally agree with the title of the article...
...not for Adebayor's goal celebration, but for kicking van Persie in the face.
The man is a thug as well as a prima donna (odd combination) and should be banned for the maximum number of games possible for that idiotic and potentially very dangerous attack.
Couldn't really care less about him running up the other end of the pitch to celebrate his goal. He obviously did it with the sole intent of winding up the Arsenal fans. They should have had more sense than to rise to the bait, or at least restricted their response to unkind chants. I hope the idiot(s) responsible for injuring the steward are banned from all football grounds for life.
Another great article Robbo - really cheered up my rather dull Monday afteroon.
Especially "My midriff resembled a fat badger trying to escape under a tablecloth".
Both hilarious and mildly revolting!
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34 Obviously I was referring to his response to the crowd's provocation and not the stamp, that was straight forward you are spot on and I agree it cannot be condoned under any circumstances. However I have sat there and cringed at the chants grown men, (fathers, grandfathers) and the like direct towards the likes of Beckham and Wenger and wonder where we are heading? As I said if you can't take it don't give it>
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Red Dreamer
"Not afraid to death exactly but he does look a bit of a handful for you guys. Back to his best. I remember saying to a couple of blues about him being your best signing when they were throwing the Tevez signing in our face (I think Bellamy's better myself on Saturday's showing). Should be a good match - expect the same result as last year though lol"
Fair comment: I agree with your observation about Bellamy, he worked his socks off on Saturday and he is bloody quick, which may worry a couple of your defenders. UTD, looked decent on Saturday but in essence I thought Spurs played a stupid game, launching the ball up to Crouch ain't going to beat UTD. I'm not sure who we will play up front on Sunday, no Tevez, No Robhino and possibly no Adebayor. We will miss a big target-man.
I look forward to the game, I live in texas and I'm surrounded by Reds, its about time I got some relief.
Cheers.
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#54- Coweslepe
That was excellent !!!!
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the adebayor celebration is a bit over the top, but theres a reason why those kind of celebrations are inadvisable. the fans goes wild, and someone could get hurt. unfortunately a steward was hurt. it could have been worse though, someone could have been crushed.
its like a snow ball effect, one action has a reaction.
the stamp was a disgrace.
http://wdkf.co.uk/
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Adebayor claimed he was caught up in the emotion of the moment yet went on to mention things that had been said and written about him pre-match - indicates to me that his celebration was pre-meditated BUT to be honest, it doesn't really bother me. Fans dish out plenty stick to opposition players so should shut up and take it when it comes back their way.
Gary Neville only got fined for doing the same to Liverpool fans so i don't see why Adebayor should be penalised any more harshly than that.
However - his stamp on van Persie was outrageous and only a fool would buy the spin coming from City about it today. It's a 3 match ban minimum
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#87 nemanjawillkillya - take off the Arsenal blinkers. There is no excuse for throwing projectiles and causing harm to someone. No one other than the Arsenal fans can be blamed for that.
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Please stop giving "JDR" the attention he deliberately achieves every week by even aknowledging hisrepetetive comments/critism. Does anyone really need to take over a decent blog with this nonsense. If we ignore him he will go away! (hopefully)
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It is sad to read so one-sited opinions, like this, written by regular BBC bloggers.
In the year leading to the World Cup and after the West Ham v Millwall troubles, we have a top premiership team whose fans throw chairs in the pitch, send a steward unconscious for 5 minutes, after they have been 'singing' racist abuse the whole afternoon, during an away match. And yet nobody places it into the proper context. Do we live in the real world? Do Arsenal fans have exceptions from basic football rules?
When we read something on the press, we have learnt to not put words out of context, with regard to related content on the paragraph. Was Van Persie on the ground after just having failed to 'take' Adebayor's feet?
It is tiring after a match that Arsenal lose to read the cliche excuses - to mention a few: Stoke City accusations, Birmingham City accusations, last match's accusations against Fletcher and so on; the list goes almost as far as Arsenal defeats.
The issue is Arsenal have been beaten fair and square and, as a club, they need to control the hooligans section of their fans.
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Why are GUNNERs beefing Ade? Huh They made it plain they didn't want him and Wenger instead of protecting him like he did Eduardo, hung him out to dry seeing he thought this was the right time to cash in on him alongside Toure.
Mistake no 1: He sold 2 players with about 12 years EPL experience to a burgeoning top 4 rival. Check and see that all new Citizens -Man City players- are players with EPL experience.
Mistake no 2: He failed to reinvest the cash in his razor thin squad. Arsenal's 1st eleven [barring injuries] can confront any team in Europe but once injuries set in, they struggle.
Face it, Adebayor may have been petulant -actually was- in his reaction but cut the guy some slack. What do you expect from a player who was injured last season yet scored 16 goals? Okay he didn't help matters openly prostituting about moving to a bigger club but recall Lassana Diarra saying just after joining Portsmouth that they know if a bigger club came for him, he would move. Even Nicklas Brendtner was quoted to have said last season he would consider a move from Arsenal if he didn't get regular playing time. Yet he wasn't crucified the way Adebayor is been slated.
Now to RVP saying Adebayor lacks class, is he classy? Do I sense jealousy? I believe he's just riding on the media hype to get him fined or banned more than due. Have we heard anything from Song, Fabregas or Arsene Wenger himself? The 'Adebayor' lacks class statement is what the secretary of Arsenal's north-west supporters' club is mimicking now asking for a lengthy ban. Gimme a break!
Below is the goal ratio of Arsenal's 4 strikers and 1 can see the best ratio comes from the much vilified Ade meaning he was their best striker on goal's ratio.
RVP has played 141 games scoring 54 goals with a goal ratio of 2.61 [incl this season- 5 seasons]
Adebayor played 142 games scoring 62 goals with goal ratio of 2.29 [in Arsenal colors- 4 seasons]
Brendtner has played 99 games notching 24 goals with goal ratio of 4.125 [incl this season- 4 seasons]
Lastly Eduardo has played 40 games scoring 17 goals with a ratio of 2.35 [incl this season- 3 seasons]
Van Persie's lunge was a red card two legged offense in the first place, though Ade foot over reached and its wrong. Yet who's saying anything about it. Hypocritical English press and fans! Or should I use the word ,racist? Ade's body language shows he didn't want to leave for Man City but Wenger's [or is it the board's?] fingers were already itching to count Arab million$. By the way, who says it only the fans that have a monopoly to taunting and abusing? They have been giving Ade the stick since last year in Arsenal and now just a celebration, the media in England and fans want to strangle themselves! Isn't it surprising that the two most acrimonious transfers during the last window was that of Ade and Samuel Eto and both are now firing for their new clubs? I'm waiting for Inter/Barca knowing regardless of it been just a game there's unfinished business between Eto and Guardiola just like there was between Adebayor and Arsenal fans. It's disgraceful that Arsenal fans never seem to understand it's just a game of football but now seem to have bitten UEFA's video review bug to go over matches long after the final whistle to whine & cringe like kiddies.
Face it, Wenger might well have sold the 4th spot- not necessarily to Man City. The EPL isn't won in November but Arsenal should start preparing for life in the Europa league. All this turmoil in Arsenal is drawing the sharks around them seeing they smell blood because of all the turmoil going on @ the Emirates. Why do you think that Fabregas is been openly courted by Barcelona yet he repeatedly says with his lips he's staying @ Ashburton Grove yet his body talk tilts towards Spain. Why wasn't he vilified for saying Arsenal was lame before the start of the season though he later issued another statement to dilute what he said? A good point to chew on mentally.
Again, on Ade's celebration, I hope he scores again in the reverse fixture [if he gets to play] to drive home the point that many never value what they have till they lose it .And lest you think this is written by a Blue,Red or Red Devil, forget it as this is straight out from a GUNNER!
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71. At 1:52pm on 14 Sep 2009, GazUtd wrote:
Remember Gary Neville simply turned around from where he was standing
bad memory or a liar?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNbZA01XSoU
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#87 wrote "There is no way that it is the fans fault, the fans chant at everymatch you fools, adebayor simply couldnt stick it. He obviouslly cannot be that good if no top teams snapped him up, for all im concerned he can wrot in hell"
so presumably it is ok if a group of football supporters come round to your house and start chanting racial, sexual or homophobic abuse outside your window with a bit of abuse sheparded towards your family thrown in for good measure, well all fans do it don't they.
By the way, what exactly does wrot mean, can't say that i've ever come across that word before
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108 JDR thats 3 comments about the quality of this blog! You only need one pal! Now seriously whats your take on the adebayor celebration and stamp and the reaction of the arsenal fans? Have some input fella!
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How very righteous Soccer UK - I take it that goes for all the Vile paedophile chants at Wenger as well then??? Might explain the bitterness of Arsenal fans who've put up with the songs without comments for years now, because rightly you cannot sing about a plane crash 50 years ago involving people hardly anyone around today knows, but you can scream that someones a paedophile & don't try the 'it's banter argument most of the churlish double standards Man United fans do. I've sat at Old Trafford to see some Dad with yound lad next to him screaming the abuse, I've heard it at the Bridge & at the Lane.
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#106 - think I speak for everyone here when I say, "EH??"
struggling to find a coherent point there...
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JDR..
Today I have mostly been eating Spaghetti Bolognese.
Blog done - happy
Roll on the comments
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JDR
Do you seriously think Robbo/Niall/whoever you think he is, or the BBC really care what you think about this blog? if they did then your hours of enless complaining would have worked by now. But they havent. So why dont you save yourself hours of typing, and go do something constructive with your sad little life..... maybe some home made gallows? please!
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Hey Robbo my old mate.
Nice one sided post mate, no mention of Robin Van Persie's dash to shout abuse in front of City fans, no mention of his tackle on Adebayor which was X-rated and deserved a red card,no mention of Bentner's assassination tackle on Adebayor when he was running past Arsenal defenders to create a goal I could have scored but Shaun Wright Philips missed, no mention of the rent a gang of mindless louts which Arsenal brought with them.
So celebrating a goal by raising your arms is a heinous crime but throwing chairs at Stewards and police is all good fun.
Robbo you used to be the pride of the North, now it's the mouthpiece of the South
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JDR - as usual you miss the point. The first part of my comment related to the debate about the Arsenal v Man City game. Could you not comment on that like pretty much every other poster.
Or are you the said illiterate 12 year old, who at least hopefully is not being paid for his comments, and which represnet the only words that are repetitive, rehashed and worn out.
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I would be ashamed if it came from an illiterate 12 year old
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JDR would it not be the case that you were only ashamed if you were the 12 year old's father?
I think the problem is now solved - JDR is Robbo's dad!!!
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It's funny how Ian Watmore, a known Arsenal fan and Chief Executive of the FA, says how "we will examine" Adebayor's behaviour... since both incidents were clearly seen by the match officials, Adebayor was even booked for the celebration, so the Ref can't claim ignorance...
...when the same man released a statement claiming that no action would be taken against Bosingwa after his kung fu kick on Benayoun, because THAT incident was seen by the match officials, and under FIFA rules the FA cannot take retrospective action over an incident that is seen by, and dealt with. by match officials.
And I'm sure Adebayor will get a fair hearing at the FA... what with any suspension coming in time for him to miss the upcoming Manchester Derby, and that David Gill, chief executive of Man Utd and FA Board Member, will be utterly impartial and have no input whatsoever.
And, while I'm on the subject of Derby... anybody recall the Forest-Derby game a few weeks back? Nathan Tyson takes a corner flag and waves it in front of the visiting Derby fans? How many of THEM threw stuff? None... because Derby's visiting fans conducted themsleves with some dignity, and not like a troop of babboons. No Rule E20b charge for Arsenal, oh no.
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Gotta love this...
65. At 1:45pm on 14 Sep 2009, nemanjawillkillya wrote:
if you mean thierry henry please learn to spell, you are so deluded and stupid, how would you feal if you had
feal!? Pot-Kettle-Black at it's best :D
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Did you guys see MOTD ? Adebayor got a bit shirty with a team mate before the match and was on the wrong side of the pitch just before kick off he seemed to be really HYPER.During the game he played his socks off but what with that STAMP and the Over the Top goal celebration,i dont know looked like he was "BUZZING" to me.
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bad memory or a liar?
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Tommy I was using it to take the proverbial out of one Mrs. G. Neville and then actually pointing out that I agree with your lots opinion of her.
You really shouldn't jump in Van Persie like with your hatred of all things United before reading and understanding
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I Completely disagree. If celebrating a goal exposes the thug-like behaviour of these 'fans' then good. These people are adults not animals. If someone winds you up as a kid, then your mum would say 'just ignore them'. Why do we forget this valuable lesson when we are older? And after the abuse those fans gave Adebayor (even when at Arsenal) he has every right to give some back.
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#118
What like when Brian Barwick never made sure that Liverpool got away with everything and openly admitted that had he remained with the BBC instead of leaving to be ITV's controller he would have used his position as Head of Sport to stop Man Utd being awarded team of the year in 1999 when they won the treble.
Or when David Dein was on the FA Disciplinary commission and certainly never favoured Arsenal at the expense of Utd or Chelsea
There is no need for David Gill to try and influence anything anyway as Adebayor was so obvious even if City's Chairman was on the council he would have to rule against him.
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Personally as an Arsenal fan I don't care about the celebration although it shows the calibre of the man prefering to celebrate alone than with his team mates. Yellow card for that was I think about right. Not so the stamp which was plain nasty. For that 3 match ban minimum.
One other point, all those people villifying the Arsenal fans should consider the great reception they gave Kolo Toure before spouting off.
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bad memory then
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good stuff once again - keep the Morrissey puns coming, they're ALWAYS funny!
i say, banish Arsenal to the Scottish League... if they couldn't play anymore matches, English football wouldn't have any ridiculous punishments, or hypocritical non-punishments.
plus, you're allowed to dive up there without fear - just ask Aidan McGeady!
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Yep. I forgot that Scousers have no sense of humour.
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127. At 2:49pm on 14 Sep 2009, GazUtd wrote:
Yep. I forgot that Scousers have no sense of humour.
Nonsense - it's the whole raison d'etre of Everton Football Club
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114. At 2:30pm on 14 Sep 2009, DangerJones11 wrote:
JDR
Do you seriously think Robbo/Niall/whoever you think he is, or the BBC really care what you think about this blog?
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Yes. See below.
280. At 08:21am on 08 Sep 2009, Robbo Robson wrote:
JDR
Admittedly, there are some weeks when it's difficult to lift me head up from the door and cross the lounge bar and into the snug where I can tap out the best I can manage on the wife's 'borrowed' laptop from work. Plus the subject matter can get a bit tedious - frankly the diving issue could do with being submerged for a while but at least there'sa line in the sand following Eduardo's ban.
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Sorry if this has already been mentioned but....did anyone see Garth Crooks trying to defend Adebayor on Saturday Goals? He had a right ding dong with Brighty, they ended with Gaby Roslin quickly signing off whilst Garth was trying to remind Brighty of how he wasn't very gentlemany when he elbowed some geezer back in the 80's!!
Now I'm a Spurs fan but even I couldn't believe what a t**t Garth was being, he deserves a six week ban if you ask me!!!
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Chairman of the FA is an Arsenal fan, FA Board member Gill is a United Director.
Fair hearing you're having a laugh. Don't see any action against Arsenal FC for failing to control their "fans" if that's what you call louts brandishing missiles and hurling comments of a sheer disgraceful and disgusting nature.
Mind you with Fabregas's actions against Brian Horton, and the nasty piece of work that is Robin Van Persie what else can you expect from Arsenal fans.
Adebayor is facing the hanging judges an Arsenal supporter and a United Director. No chance of any justice here.
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Crooks deserves a lifetime ban from television, unless there's a documentary on a childrens channel where they show the kids what they will turn into if they don't go to school and hit their heads a lot.
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65. At 1:45pm on 14 Sep 2009, nemanjawillkillya wrote:
if you mean thierry henry please learn to spell, you are so deluded and stupid, how would you feal if you had been paying adebayors wages for years and supporting him at arsenal aswell and he repays the fans by doing that?
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That would be "feel" that you meant to write there then presumably?
Oh the irony!
Pot, kettle... People in glass houses...??
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Nonsense - it's the whole raison d'etre of Everton Football Club
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Even JDR must have laughed at that one.
Although you didn't tell us it was your birthday Tommy, who bought you that dictionary/thesaurus?
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The booking is a victory for the thugs on the terraces. You'll have difficulty working that one out ? The supporters goad and chant their obscenities, if they run onto the pitch then they should go to prison. It's a sporting arena, sport dissapates aggression and tension, that's one of the beauties of sport. What about FREEDOM ? The "THOUGHT POLICE" are out on patrol, "irresponsible behaviour" etc etc. Tell your MP's to stick the thugs in prison, if Adebayor wants to celebrate then that's his choice. Dimitri Shostakovich, famous Russian composer said that the football ground was his favourite place because he could say what he wanted ! Pandering wet liberals helping the thugs to another victory, any ban is a defeat for democracy !
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#123
So how do you explain Nathan Tyson has until Sept 18th to respond to his Rule E3 charge... and yet Adebayor will "learn his fate" this week? Clearly, Adebayor is being "Fast Tracked". This is a process that is only supposed to apply to incidents not seen by the Referee. Adebayor was booked for his celebration, so that was certainly witnessed by match officials, and can't be fast tracked.
So, we come to the "stamping" incident. Will Van Persie be charged, along with Adebayor, for his two-footed lunge from behind? Of course not. Will he be charged for his goal celebration, screaming obscenities at the home fans? Of course not. I've already pointed out Arsenal have a case to answer to under Rule E20b, but there's not been a whisper about that.
I actually have a lot of sympathy for Arsenal, as a club, after the abysmal treatment Wenger suffered at Old Trafford. It's funny how much can change in 2 weeks.
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Adebayor is facing the hanging judges an Arsenal supporter and a United Director. No chance of any justice here.
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Justice will be guaranteed - he will be banned rather than getting a slap on the wrists and told to stop kicking the heads of the other boys in the playground.
Stop apologising for the stamp he only has himself to blame. As for the celebration I would have laughed if he had tripped up and got injured while running down there. The twerp should have celebrated with his own fans and team-mates rather than sprinting the length of the pitch
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I'm an educated man, Gaz. You mancs wouldn't understand.
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Crooks is hilarious. A complete buffoon. He's had many a spat live on 'Score' and they're always brilliant. For that reason, and that reason only, he should remain on TV.
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Powling76,
'fans' who chanted paedophile chants towards Arsene Wenger were also a disgrace for football and for Manchester United in that instance. The day this sort of behaviour eclipses from football will be a beautiful day. I can't agree more on that.
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#138
Course we do.. Utd's reason for being is to win matches and trophies. Everton's is to inhabit the bottom 3 all season let us laugh and get relegated this time because Hans Segers isn't around to let 3 goals in on the last game of the season
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I'm in class at the minute Tommy, I'll ask teacher.
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"I look forward to the game, I live in texas and I'm surrounded by Reds, its about time I got some relief."
Typical bitter glory hunters;-)
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Does Derek get paid for writing this?
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Here's what I think should happen..Mark Hughes to publically condemn the "stamp" and also the celebration, Man City to be fined for not controlling their player, Adebayor to be punished for both offences by missing say 6 to 8 matches, (the stamp) was by far the worse offence! Van Persie should have been punished for his part with a 2 footed tackle, those Arsenal fans who can be identified for throwing missiles given a similar ban to Adebayor, Arsenal FC given a hefty fine for their fans behaviour (racial chanting etc), it would also be nice if AW for a change "saw" the behaviour of players/fans and publically condemned them and issued his own apology - along with Mark Hughes. Set an example managers/players and fans! What a shame as it was a cracking game of football.
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Fantastic post #54 (Coweslepe). I salute you, sir!
DangerJones11 wrote:
"So why dont you save yourself hours of typing, and go do something constructive with your sad little life..... maybe some home made gallows? please!"
LMAO! If only...
By the way, to those people bleating about van Persie's attempted tackle on Adebayor, I feel I should point out a couple of things. First, he missed (or at least Ade stayed on his feet) and second, a two-footed tackle might result in leg or knee damage that would result in a few weeks or months out injured. Kicking someone in the head can have far worse consequences!
Maybe Robbo was remiss in not giving Arsenal's hooligan contingent some stick in his article, to balance out his comments about Adebayor. There is no excuse, ever for that kind of behaviour. Still, maybe he felt it was painfully obvious and decided to concentrate on Emmanuel's folly instead.
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Just read this blog http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulfletcher/2009/09/carl_baker_and_stockport_an_ex.html#138740 elsewhere on BBC and it makes the antics by Adebayor and the Arsenal fans look even worse.
At least somewhere in football there remains some shred of humanity.
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Am I missing something - didn't RVP get booked?! I think RVP's part in getting his face STAMPED on can be discounted from the argument really. He fouled Adebayor, for which he was punished. The tackle was no worse than what we see on a weekly basis. just 'cause you get fouled, it is in no way justification for kicking out.
In other words, the fact that Adebayor was fouled is irrelevant. It'd be a blood bath everytime someone got fouled otherwise. "yeah, he fouled me, so I booted him the face".
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117 Gaz, hilarious, but extremely worrying for Robbo...though that would explain the frequent trips to the local every night.
Personally I've no problem with Ade's celebration but have a big problem with him putting stud marks on the side of VP's face, and I don't even like VP. That requires appropriate action from the F.A.
Ade's post match interview technique also needs a lot of work to provide any form of credibility. Refusing to comment would have been better than this effort...now, in terms of punishment the FA will just take what they were thinking and multiply it by 100!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/8252649.stm
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In view of recent events and the growing unpleasantness and controversy surrounding City, maybe for the first time ever next week's Manchester derby will see more neutrals supporting United than City. The times they are a changing !!
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#150
don't be daft !
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mugwumple, Did you hear any rascist chanting yourself, no of course not, because it didn't happen. Nor were Arsenal fans ripping the heads off babies something some numpty will no doubt shortly claim. So Adebayor got some stick, big deal and a fraction of what the likes of Wenger and Sol Campbell have suffered over the years.
Can those people claiming Arsenal fans were chanting Rascist comments either put up or shut up
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JDR... i'm with you mate, infact i have been living the "JDR Lifestyle" for the last week, just to see if i could get an insight to why you dislike the man Robbo so much... My findings were enlightening to say the least.
Whilst was watching CBeebies with my 3 year old daughter, Mr Tumbles came on so i screamed "Oh good one Mr Tumbles, real name Justin!!! cant believe were paying for this nonsense, oh here he goes again, more sign language and clowning around"... She cried for a while, but i think in the long run, she'll benefit.
Then later in the week my young cousin Thomas had the part of Fagin in his drama clubs production of Oliver (He's the white sheep of the family this kid). Well he was not good so i let him have it JDR style... "Rubbish Thomas, same worn out London-Jewish stereotypes seen a thousand time before, Booooo!"
As every opportunity has arisen, i have lived my life JDR style, and continually criticised anything i can and anyone doing anything under a false name i have unmasked, named and duley shamed them! Also anyone offering anything that is similar in fashion for too long, just because it is popular, has also had both barrels of the JDR rifle!
So anyway, i am just recently married and though me and the Mrs have been together a long time anyway, certain flames have been re-lit... If you catch my drift (Andre, your dad will explain one day)... Well there we were, the kids asleep and a night of passion ahead of us... Then it dawned on me, my JDR resolution! So i let her know the JDR perception of truth "same old moves... predictable... cliché pillow talk..." it didn’t go down well and she hasn't been down since...
Anyway, long story short after just one week of the JDR lifestyle i have lost my home, job, wife and am not aloud to talk to the kids for a very long time... I can see why this cheery f*^&!ng blog does his head in!
It is a lonely existence following the JDR lifestyle, but the feeling in my gut knowing that every day i take just a little bit of happiness away from someone, makes it all worth while...
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Would all the Arsenal fans who were touting the title 2 weeks ago...please stand with Liverpool in the 'already over' enclosure.
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#153 Nice one
All you and JDR are missing now is to walk up to John McClane and say John/ Bruce - same old action, washed out, marital difficulty & alcholic detective cliches, rubbish etc and listen for the click, Yipeekayay and bang (and not in a good way).
I would suggest you get JDR to go first though
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RBA - Brilliant.
To get your life back on track I suggest that you go on Dragon's Den and pitch the idea of living JDR's lifestyle as a business idea.
You could be the "JDR consultant" where you charge people to tell them the bleeding obvious. It's worked well for many years with MOTD pundits.
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Perhaps we should be applauding the Arsenal away fans, who actually looked like they following their team for a change.
Had the game been at Library II, I'd have expected a hail of laptops and Saturday papers - if the home 'support' managed to look up from them long enough to see Adebayor heading their way.
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Adebayors celebration is causing such over-reactions - is it just because its against Arsenal?? I dont know. However the behaviour of their fans goes somewhat unnoticed!! It was appaling and Arsenal should not be allowed to take fans to the next few away games if that is how they behave.
Unfortunately the FA set a precident when they banned Gary Neville for his celebration against the scousers a few years ago, so they now HAVE to ban Ade, no matter what.
What everyone should be focusing on apart from the arsenal fans, is the stamp on Van Persie. Only the biggest of fools could try and defend it as "accidental" and thankfully, I dont think Ive read any posts that have. I think a 3 match ban for that is too small a punishment. Give him 5 for that and 1 for the celebration and be done with it. Then take Arsenal to task!!
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Nevs A Red
Mate if it's away fans that are the prob then your lot would be banned from going anywhere. No coincedence your fans are streets ahead when it comes to trouble related at football!!
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RBA you should realise by now that any Church can quickly change it's views or beliefs directly according to the amount of money they can make.
I think you will find that if Robbo offers JDR a "reading fee" every week we will soon see a change in JDR's comments. However it might mean a few less pints in the Blue Bell so it could never happen. But do fictional pubs even charge for beer? Do you see the theological questions this blog continues to raise, and yet people still diss it.
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Anyone who says they heard Arsenal fans chanting or shouting racist remarks is seriously deluded.
Everyone knows Arsenal fans don't chant or shout.
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Gaz, I do believe that fictional pubs charge for beer, though i am under the impression that it is fictional money that is requested, though i am not sure, that could all be pure fiction...
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Yet again Whitley Bay pops in with the voice of reason and common sense from the lower leagues.
Thanks Whitley for reminding us that we all get carried away on here from time to time. Arsenal fans chanting, how stupid we all look.
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Adebayor will get a ban from the FA - why ? although he didnt throw an object at a steward HIS BEHAVIOUR TRIGGERED THE INCIDENT. If he had scored & celebrated in front of his own fans nothing would have happened. His act of "glory" was over the top & that caused some moron to take things over the top. AFC & Arsene W put Adebayor on the footballing map, he should remember that.
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Niall,
Had a look at your wikipedia there, and if thats to be believed, you have had a very good comedic career.
Why then do you persist with this nonsense of 'Robbo'? Even you, as you have stated before, find it occasionally tiresome.
You have a blog on BBC whos purpose is for light-hearty comedy relating to Sport. Robbo delivers this rarely. Could you possibly offer up something with a little more substance, using that aforementioned career of yours, so as we don't have to read through an entire one of these blogs, only to find at the end it is the same old tiresome bother?
This, I believe, is not asking too much.
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#124 "One other point, all those people villifying the Arsenal fans should consider the great reception they gave Kolo Toure before spouting off."
Does that mean the ars fans weren't spouting off before giving Toure a great reception, only afterwards?
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Is it asking too much for Andre to stop reading this blog and, therefore, stop offering his tedious comments to other readers?? I certainly find them tiresome with no substance offered or comment on other people's views on the subject in question.
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AndreIsGiant... Am i correct in the assumption that your name is a reference to the Late great wrestler, Andre The Giant? If so and you are indeed a fan of "Professional Wrestling"... If so may i enquire as to where your hatred for things repetitive and tiresome comes from? As i do see a little conflict in your outlook if you are as i suspect a fan of Wrestling?
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#166 Could you possibly offer up something with a little more substance..
Like yourself andre as lunch to a Great White Shark so we don't have to read your slavish sycophantic JDR is my hero comments
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Oh and if i'm right with the wrestling bit, i see a potential lovers tiff with you and the Roacher... As "The Giant" wasn't his real surname!
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the real travesty here is how the mods modded RedBlue's undoubtedly brilliant follow-up to #153.
if only we could get Serena Williams to "have a word" with them, this blog would be vastly improved.
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158. At 3:51pm on 14 Sep 2009, Nevs_A_Red wrote:
Unfortunately the FA set a precident when they banned Gary Neville for his celebration against the scousers a few years ago, so they now HAVE to ban Ade, no matter what.
What is it with United fans and their shocking memories today?
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i thought we concluded that Andre and JDR were one and the same?!
or maybe it just appears that way, what with them connected at the...
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I think the word you are looking for is selective
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#173 - not #174 that is
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SayWhat! The word i used which could posibly be seen as abusive, is the french word for shower? And without the suffix of "bag" attached i really think i have grounds to appeal here? This is an outrage!
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And thank you Dennis it was "undoubtedly brilliant"... Well, better than me usual drivel anyways...
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175: you never seem to tire of being wrong, adam !
Nevs_A_Red has 'remembered' something that never happened - that's not being selective !
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SayWhat! The word i used which could posibly be seen as abusive, is the french word for shower? And without the suffix of "bag" attached i really think i have grounds to appeal here? This is an outrage!
I would have thought it isn't the word particularly rather the 4 preceeding ones as I believe there is a real church with that as part of it's title
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179. At 4:51pm on 14 Sep 2009, TommyOnion wrote:
175: you never seem to tire of being wrong, adam !
Nevs_A_Red has 'remembered' something that never happened - that's not being selective !
Course it is if he has integrated it so seamlessly into his real memory that he can no longer seperate it. He looks at something thinks I don't like that changes the memory and then uses it -
Hence Selective (may be wrong but I can callit selective if i want so there) - tired cliches about being wrong, waste of taxpayers money, grumble
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wrong and boring !
a double whammy !!!
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ah, wee wee!
the mods don't like us using Francais, unless it's GazUtd translating "Rooney is a diver" from his recent French lesson.
i'm sorry...there i go again telling the ugly (Shrekish) truth.
fabulous double nutmeg goal against Spurs, though.
love the drivel RBA - keep it coming
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Boring...
I was never Being Boring.., Full exception taken to that. To call me boring is to question one of the fundamental principles of commenting. I
Not sure which one but I'll think of one to invent in a minute.
Now your crusade against Gary Neville being recalled for England is boring - think of all the fun if he's brought back, tabloid headlines, endless debates about Glenn Johnson, Rafa may even draw up a special FACT sheet to explain why Johnson should play.
But mainly it would fit in with my evil masterplan to have the England team composed entirely of Utd players
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I'll be interested to see what happens at the return fixture at the Emirates. He may have to run another hundred yards to celebrate with his own fans then. Would that then be inflamatory?
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I have it..
It is rule number 153435 clause 24235 subsection 5a
Adam is never boring.
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#153
RBA that was class!! haha!!
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Robbo, Was that centre half called Big Ricky? Did he have a beard to his chest?
Anyway, you were a gang of spoiled pre madonnas, a mini-bus of all things, didn't you have bikes and pit ponies like the rest of us? And a proper polyester kit all the way up to number 12, it's a scandal. There was a time when you'd have pulled the shirt off the lad's back as he was being carried off on a sheet of corrugated asbestos from the bike shed roof.
As for Adebayor deserving all he gets, is that about 100 grand a week? Do they lose their wages if suspended?
Coweslepe and RBA. Awesome!
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adampsb wrote:
I have it..
It is rule number 153435 clause 24235 subsection 5a
Adam is never boring.
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Yikes!
If I'm ever bored enough to read a book with that many rules I'd gouge my eyes out.
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I see a City fan has now complained to the Police about van Persie mouthing a swear word toward the City fans following his goal on Saturday !
No wonder Manchester is top of the UK crime charts !
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@ Soccer_UK:
You talk of one-sided opinions and you brand us "hooligans", you, a Manchester United fan?! Oh the irony..
We were baited by Adebayor, a selfish and lazy player who left for money. What does he really expect? I payed for tickets last season where he waltzed around the pitch without a care in the world. He did not want to help the team, he did not want to chase balls. That clueless idiot actually seemed surprised that we booed him, he said he was "hurt". The difference between him and a lot of players is mentality, that's why we love Bendtner, because he tries. He doesn't have as much skill as Adebayor, that's certain but it's about effort. It is impossible to say we were "outclassed" by City, a team with a bottomless pit of funds against a team who generates the majority of its funds from a well-planned stadium. We conceded a fluke goal in the form of Almunia's header which put us on the back-foot then got caught on the break, the scoreline flatters City. The statistics say everything, we had 54% possession too.
And judging by what Powlie76 said, you have no say in this whatsoever calling US the hooligans. Then again, I doubt you're a true supporter anyway, something a lot of teams lack. Arsenal fans are a different kind, you have to be one to know that.
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Ive written a blog about this situation myself and would love to read people's feedback.
http://elliotcaw.blogspot.com/2009/09/adebayor-attitude-aggravates-arsenal.html
Thanks
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Good effort Elliot, McNulty and others will be looking over their shoulders (not Robbo though).
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#118 RobSmiley
"And I'm sure Adebayor will get a fair hearing at the FA... what with any suspension coming in time for him to miss the upcoming Manchester Derby, and that David Gill, chief executive of Man Utd and FA Board Member, will be utterly impartial and have no input whatsoever"
Well said mate, well said. Add in the Bobby Chalton factor and CITY will be without Adebayor for the derby.
What about Van Perse??? Will he get investigated for his torrent of abuse he directed at the CITY fans? Did CITY fans retaliate?
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RedBlue 153
Inspirational, mate.
174, 175, 176
One of those moments that make this thread such an entertainment. (You really wouldn't understand, Joe).
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#191 AFC_OurTimeWIllCom
I fully understand the booing etc of Adebayor and have no issues with it following his less than inspired performances last season.
However are you actually condoning or justifying throwing seats and causing a harm to a steward, who was just doing their job?? Those involved are no better than Adebayor and are arguably worse.
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#64 wrote:
@54
"This isn't merely an opinion; it really is an observation steeped in fact. He's just funnier than anyone you're likely to know."
"Nevertheless, anyone who reads wisely and well will understand that Robbo's similes consistently surpass any that appear in the media of our day. Quite simply, he has more natural humour than the wittiest Oxonian."
"It saddens me that the new generation of Englishmen will never know the type of system that all but silenced rants such as yours before they ever got started. "
Incredible stuff. What planet are you on?
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The planet Troll in the solar system Pithtake in the galaxy Uravinalaf.
If you look up into the night sky you can see it to the right of, well, just about everything else in sight.
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'"Nevertheless, anyone who reads wisely and well will understand that Robbo's similes consistently surpass any that appear in the media of our day. Quite simply, he has more natural humour than the wittiest ox."
A slight amendment as you can see.
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Slight change of topic but as predicted - Arsenal's Eduardo appeal is succesful with UEFA!!!
Ronaldo will be doing cartwheels tonight !
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184. Rafa insisting one of his players play for their country?
That would be a first.
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199. Thats brilliant. I wondered how they would prove 'intent to deceive'?
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If 'intent to deceive' was punishable by a ban imagine all the useless idiots running around every weekend, somehow deceiving a manager that they can actually play football, that would never play again...
Gary Neville
Titus
His Dirkness
to name but 3
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What a Monday, New robbo blog and JDR being slaughtered and censored twice, Has made my day. Reckon JDR does a lot of intending to deceive in the way he is always trying to 'help' Robbo, do it like this, not like that etc where he is secretly trying to oust robbo and take the blog post for himself joe 'cock' Roach and his miserable outlook on anything.
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thank god players are showing there emotion once again. all that rubbish about respecting the team you use to play for needs respect. respect is earnt not given and if aresnal and there fans showed the guy respect last season maybe they would have earned his respect. a bit naughty how he stamped on van persie and should have the book thrown at him for that
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Ade did not earn the respect of the fans last season. You would know if you had seen him troll around while flirting with likes of AC Milan and Barca.
This season however, like Robbo said, he deserves it all.
The cash from city (just their type of player), abuse from Arsenal Fans ( I personally would like to put a stop to it and punish the trouble makers) his goals and his brilliant form this season and finally a ban for his antics.
He deserves it all.
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TomOnion - that's great news...do you have any information on how Celtic's appeal of McGeady's dive ban is going? ;)
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Reading the comments on here, it makes me wonder of the intelligence of the posters. I mean, yes the Arsenal fan's reaction wasn't brilliant, but Adebayor's celebration was tantamount to giving someone the middle finger in a pub, repeatedly, tell me there isn't going to be a reaction? Adebayor acted like a mug, and that alone should earn a six match ban, the stamp, 5 matches for me. The stewards did a marvellous job, but they must have been thinking, oh I could hit Adebayor right about now, all this trouble he has caused me. See you in 11 weeks Ade, hopefully your team can beat Man Utd without you. Great blog as per usual Robbo, keep it up.
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199
Tommy, does that mean that diving is ok now or just that FIFA won't be looking into any further cases? All so pointless! (The blogs were good though Robbo).
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207
What? I'm shocked. Do they use the middle finger in England too now? Whatever next, drugs I'll bet!
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103. At 2:21pm on 14 Sep 2009, pilch666 wrote:
#87 nemanjawillkillya - take off the Arsenal blinkers. There is no excuse for throwing projectiles and causing harm to someone. No one other than the Arsenal fans can be blamed for that.
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Fair enough. The Arsenal fans concerned were total headcases and it shouldn;t be hard to find out who they are and ban them as well, should it? Trouble is we get used to having to share a stand with a bunch of wuckfits who share the same footy shirt as us. The last thing we need is someone on the pitch sinking to their level - in a time of 9.92 for the 100 meters n all.
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The whole celebration episode seems to be a knee jerk over reaction from the press against Adebayor in an attempt to justify the action of a group of hooligans, and the fact they were masquerading as Arsenal fans is surely more of an insult to true Arsenal fans (and true football fans in general) than the actions of Adebayor.
On the subject of knee jerk over reactions, I see that Eduardo has had his 2 match ban overturned on appeal, does this mean that Uefa are now giving the authority back to the referees where it belongs, i doubt it, they probably just felt sorry for him after the England result
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211. If feeling sory is to become the critarium, Messi and Ronaldo might pretty soon be eligible for a penalty award every time a defender takes a deep breath in their vicinity.
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I refuse to believe that any Boro fan has ever stood with a 'bunch' of other fans.
Surely a 'bunch' consists of more than 3 people?
#207
Your analogy is somewhat incorrect. The Arsenal fans are surely the equivalent to your one fingered pub saluter with Adebayor the one who reacted to that.
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Your blog got relegated Robbo.
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Will people stop complaining about the away fans! Of course if someone throws a projectile and injures a steward they should be punished, but you're stating the obvious! There will always be trouble from one or two bad apples. What you need to get your heads round is the fact that someone who is a world class professional earning in a week what most of us will be lucky to earn in 4 years should know better than to provoke a mob of fans! I must quote the title of this blog by saying 'Adebayor deserves all he gets!'
Wake up fools!
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Ditto. The RVP lunge wasn't great either, but it's bleeding irritating that people cuite that as if it's a mitigating factor to have your head stamped on.
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For cuite read cite.
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Yes Robbo, it's also bleeding irritating that people cite a goal celebration for as a mitigating factor for hooliganism and wounding a steward
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At 9:12pm on 14 Sep 2009, Robbo Robson wrote:
For cuite read cite.
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NO!
I refuse to. Grounds for dismissal if you ask me.
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All right, Gaz. Bad holiday?
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Gaz has been asked to pay 67 pounds so that the Gov. can run a background check on him to establish if he is suitable enough to come in contact with people he may take advantage of.
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Yep, rubbish mate. But that was supposed to be in the sarcasm font. And JDR hasn't been around in a while so I thought I better chip in.
I have no idea what Spitfire is trying to say, way above my head.
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Robbo!!
As a BBC employee (?) is there any chance you can confirm that Auntie will not be showing the World Cup in Scotland or Wales and replacing it with 'Out of Africa'?
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Gaz,
No way is Robbo an employee, you think they'd waste the licence fee money on Robbo? People would be up in arms, crikey, it's beyond contemplation, can you imagine the whining we'd get on here if he was actually an employee? You know how they have those long titles at the beeb, well I reckon he's probably a Voluntary Unpaid Licensed Vociferous Associate....and a damn good one at that!
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This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.
What are you talking about son. What the Beeb fork out on me would make an Eastlands employee blush? Man, when I stride out, Teessiders shield their eyes from the blaze of bling. Well, all right, the smog tends to diffuse the effect, but you get my drift, lads. Rolling in it, me.
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Robbinho...so you're buying then when i show up in the Blue Bell one day?
splendid!
yes JDRndre - i believe Robbo is a real guy in a real pub. i also believe in J.C., the Lochness Monster, rock 'n roll, and the healing powers of love, which i highly recommend for your many ailings.
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225
But you did BigLig, you did!
Smog diffused bling, priceless!
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In fairness anyone earning more than the price of a large parmo and a can of Vimto per week is considered royalty on Teeside.
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This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.
Zoot, that's inverted gonads to the rest of us?
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Robbo flashing bling - i just can't believe it, nor do i want to... has to be some basis for his cartoon image. i'm picturing Keith Moon as The Uncle in the Tommy film - am i close Robbo?
what do the rest of yous imagine our protaganist to look like?
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Trotter - I was MUCH impressed by your correct usage of "licence" and "licensed" in your otherwise dodgy posting 224.
Did you notice that Joe spelled "licence" correctly this time?
Robbo's blog: it's an education, even for Joe. Quite heartwarming, really.
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what do the rest of yous imagine our protaganist to look like?
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That's between, my pillow and the old dirty gym sock
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Between ME, my pillow etc etc
Sometimes this comment box really makes me wonder!
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232 Denis
I thought that that was Robbo and the missus suppin' in the first blog picture? Have I picked that up wrong?
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Zoot if you picked up either of them in that first pic I can only either salute your strength or your total lack of worry about what other people think of you.
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chris_cat - I had friends at the game.......they would like to thank the poorest of poor citeh fans for throwing their dinner money at them. They came home with quite a collection!
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Ok, so here are the blog results -
50% of blog entries were on-topic. Ie: They discussed the subjects at hand.
33% of blog entries were off topic. Ie, Zootmac, Trotter, Gasutd and Robbo discussing..not much
24% of blog entries mentioned JoeDavisRoach at least once.
3% of blog entries moderated, or contributed by Robbo Robson himself.
This leads me to conclude that:
JoeDavisRoach is nearly half as interesting as the content of this blog.
At least 1/3 of comments on this blog are contributed by the same bloggers, and are off topic.
This blog is less than 50% productive with regard to attracting intelligent commentary/discussion.
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please feel free to check my maths..
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33% = 23%
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I'll get my coat
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Next time someone tries to wind me up after i've been verbally abusing him for him for 80 mins, i'm going to get a load of mates round and crush our kids.
If you can't take it, don't f'in give it.
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If people like JDR stopped complaining constantly, it would probably stay on topic. It's annoying actually and definitey has no place in the blog as far as I'm concerned. I don't post much here but always read and am getting sick of reading all this rubbish from JDR and then all the replies to him. If anything is affecting the quality of the overall blog it's that...
Give it a rest people, ignore the troll and it might go away.
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City a top four side? A terrific win against the Arsenal? Look, City beat Arsenal 3-0 last season with a much better performance than last weekends. City are still an ordinary side who haven't been playing well and have been lucky in most of their games this seaon.......at least, that's the opinion of most of my mates who are City fans.
The message to City from Adebayor is simple........he will have to go in the January window. Yes, he was deservedly booked for his abuse of the Arseenal fans. His stamp on Van Persie was a disgrace and the sort of action the FA needs to 'satmp out'........He should go for at least 6 weeks for the cowardly assault
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Zoot, any correct spelling was entirely incidental and probably resulted from the education afforded by your presence on these pages.
Ginger, 7 of the 245 (2.85714%) posts have been yours but they're difficult to categorise without the certainty of moderation.
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There's some good comments being made on this blog. People are quite rightly pointing out the glaring hypocrisy of painting Adebayor out as the only bad guy here.
He was silly to run the full length of the pitch, he got booked, let's move on. His blow to van Persie, if deemed deliberate by the FA will see him get a three match ban, fine, let's move on.
I am willing to concede all of that, if everyone else in the media are willing to concede the following points...
a) Arsenal should be brought to task for the despicable behaviour of their fans for i) the racist taunts, and ii) the behaviour after Adebayor's goal.
b) If Adebayor does, for some inconcievable reason, receive a ban for sliding on his knees in front of the Arsenal fans, will van Persie be given the same ban for approaching the City fans after his goal and giving them a barrage of verbal abuse?
You see, it's not the looming punishment off Adebayor that riles me, it's all these cry-baby Gooners with their astoundingly lob-sided view of anything to do with poor old Arsenal.
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I would just like to highlight a point which, up until now has been overlooked by all, including the BBC and Sky Sports.
When the Spurs fans abused Sol Campbell for an entire game with those songs a massive, country wide media hunt on Spurs fans was started. Fans faces were plastered all over newspapers and websites demanding they receive life bans for their "vile" tauts towards Sol Campbell.
Can someone please answer me why this has not occurred with regards to Adebayor incident?! From what I have heard - which includes from mates who are Arsenal fans - the sick abuse that he received was not in the least bit pleasant!
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Zoots... Inspirational? High praise indeed sir... My Thanks.
RedAstaire... Crikey, you love your maths fella, shame you couldn't represent that as a pie (or Parmo) chart... I spent all my time in maths writing "boobless" on my calculator... Simple things for simple minds i suppose... hahaha.... Boobless!
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So no condemnation of the Arsenal fans behaviour?
Wasn't it surprising how many of them had bananas in their packed lunches?
Everton were blasted years back for throwing bananas at John Barnes, and rightly so.
Spanish fans were equally chastised for making monkey noises at black England players.
But Arsenal fans - and many a black player has graced the Arsenal shirt over the years - are the victims of Adebayor? Do me a favour!
I think you've supped far to many in The Bluebell - you've lost touch with reality.
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At 00:00am on 15 Sep 2009, RedAstaire² wrote:
Ok, so here are the blog results -
50% of blog entries were on-topic. Ie: They discussed the subjects at hand.
33% of blog entries were off topic. Ie, Zootmac, Trotter, Gasutd and Robbo discussing..not much
24% of blog entries mentioned JoeDavisRoach at least once.
3% of blog entries moderated, or contributed by Robbo Robson himself.
This leads me to conclude that:
JoeDavisRoach is nearly half as interesting as the content of this blog.
At least 1/3 of comments on this blog are contributed by the same bloggers, and are off topic.
This blog is less than 50% productive with regard to attracting intelligent commentary/discussion.
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Translation: Boring.
Onto other news.
A subtle hint on who our likely GK for the England Squad will be for 2010.
The England bosses have in their list of demands a computer games arcade of sorts, complete with Playstation, Wii, etc.
Capello insisting he doesn't want his players getting bored while they're out there being the cover story.
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250. At 09:31am on 15 Sep 2009, BoogerAllstars wrote:
So no condemnation of the Arsenal fans behaviour?
Wasn't it surprising how many of them had bananas in their packed lunches?
Everton were blasted years back for throwing bananas at John Barnes, and rightly so.
Spanish fans were equally chastised for making monkey noises at black England players.
But Arsenal fans - and many a black player has graced the Arsenal shirt over the years - are the victims of Adebayor? Do me a favour!
I think you've supped far to many in The Bluebell - you've lost touch with reality.
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A point well made and in my opinion the whole question of the press conveniently forgetting things like the Arsenal fans behaviour or that of Thierry Henry's against Spurs for example can be easily sorted by doing a straw poll of tabloid and tv journallist as to which team they support, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest to find that quite a high percentage of the london based ones will be Arsenal fans ant the northern based ones will be Man Utd fans
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Its not our fault the rest of you lot don't learn to read or write.
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Anyone who questions the behaviour of the Arsenal fans obviously just has one half of the story.
Those who were actually at the game would know that Adebayor quite deliberately warmed up for the game in front of the Arsenal fans, dancing and gyrating to wind them up!
This does not excuse the abuse he got but he is is far from innocent in this, if he had not wound up the fans at the start of the game I doubt he would have got as much abuse as he did.
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254 …and the steward, was he winding the fans up too? No excuses for that?
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Mostly agree with the Ade bashing, but absolutly disagree with "Van Persie did right with that blog"; he acusses ade of deliberatly setting out to harm a former team mate when actually it was the dutchman sliding in with a two footed challenge that decided to hurt a former team mate. I'm not saying he deserved to get his head caved in, but but if he got injured in the process of trying to kick the opposition of the field then he's just proving that you reep what you sow.
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I think even the most ardent fan of either City or Arsenal can't honestly claim this is soley the fault of only one side... Adebayor, acted like a tool... Arsenal fans, acted like tools... Adebayor gets banned for a few matches and the Arsenal fans should also be banned from attending future matches... And if the alleged banana throwing is true, i do think those fans should get life time bans and Arsenal should take serious action...
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Van Persie - throw the book at him.
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A bit tired and actually pointless that City fans are attempting to get Arsenal fans into the equation. Pointless in that it isn't going to happen.
The fact of the matter is that FA and Premiership officials have copped on to Adebayor and so have the Manchester police, that is what is generating the publicity. He will in total probably receive a 5 match ban. Arsenal fans aren't even mentioned nor are they going to receive any sanction so droning on about something that isn't even on the radar is quite sad.
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There are two separate issues here.
1. Adeybayor's behaviour both in the stamping on Van Persie and in his goading the Arsenal fans - both deserving of criticism and punishment; and
2. The behaviour of the Arsenal fans - equally deserving of criticism and punishment.
1 does not justify 2.
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"Didn't used to..."
Get yer grammar sorted Robert. Not that it'll stop you spouting utter ****e week in week out.
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Adebyor was a total idiot for what he did!
Fotball has a bad reputation already and his antics have just made it worse. I don't think the Van Persie incident was on purpose but running to the Arsenal fans, nearly causing a riot just shows how disconnected players are from the average man in the street!
Doesn't mater if he gets banned he will still pick up his £100k pay a week!
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Adebayor´s incitement of the Arsenal fans does not excuse their behaviour in throwing various missiles on the pitch, however it has to be said that wouldn´t have happened had he not run the length of the pitch to goad them.
He has been quoted in the press talking down about Arsenal fans and I think he showed a lack of class. I think the yellow card was by the letter of the law for over exuberrnace in celebrating a goal, however that law does not make allowance for such a ridiculous celebration. The law makers of the game expect the players to have a level of responsibility.
From what I made of his "raking" of Robin Van Persie, I feel Van Persie has a point in his criticism of Adebayor, it looked very nasty to me having watched the replay many times.
I think the FA should and will come down hard on him.
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so he's been charged then
good to see the FA so swift to respond, as ever !
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Was there or was there not banana skins thrown by Arsenal fans?
If there was why are we not hearing about it? Is it because it is Arsenal and their fans can do no wrong? Or is it because there is to be nothing bad whatsoever to be said about any English fans until England get to host a World Cup?
In light of the appalling behavior of Spanish fans and the slating they took from the English press (quite rightly) does the deafening silence over this apparent happening not just sicken anyone?
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Charge, ban, appeal, overturned.
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there were clearly things thrown on the pitch but i have to say i didn't see any bananas thrown - i also didn't hear any racist chanting or hear them mentioned by the radio commentators.
Hard to fathom Arsenal fans as racist tbh.
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#266 - you'd expect City to ask for a personal hearing to delay things until after the weekend in any case
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OldStafford, should that not be...
Charge, ban, appeal, stamped out?
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Well, Arsenal fans are no angels but racist? I dont think so.
The fans responsible for the troubles should be identified and fined/banned.
I think its fair to expect that if the fans dish out abuse, they should also be able to take some back from the player. Not ideal situation but it does mirror real life.
As for Ade, I would like to see him punished for the stamp on van Persie. He looked liked a man possessed when he was doing it. Cant have that on a playing field.
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I can't see any ban being overturned in the case of the stamp on Van Persie as it is pretty black and white to be fair as is teh fact that he incited teh crown - 5-6 match ban coming up.
He is just like Spongebob Squarepants - Idiot Boy
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Nice one sided article, are you sure it hasn't been written by Comical Ali?
If football fans are too childish not to react at forner player sliding on his knees in front of them, then Arsenal should be made to play their games behind closed doors until they grow up.
I still haven't seen this supposed face stamp either, I did see a light brush of a boot on RVP's face directly after he dished out a wreckless two footed lunge though.
Speak to JPR Williams about what a FACE STAMP actually means.
See here:
http://i27.tinypic.com/29psu83.jpg
Great job with the clamping down on diving too, hand out a ban and then take it back once the club cries like a baby.
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267 I've watched it a couple of times and I couldn't see any bananas being thrown either, although I did wonder whether any of the Arsenal fans asked for their money back after the game.
Not racists just generous with their money.
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Isn't it just typical of rugby fans to actually think what happened to JPR Williams is a good thing.
"Oh look at us, we are big strong lads. Har har har. Now lets go out and beat up some poor people"
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what really is profanity filter
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275 f**! knows perhaps a f**! nose?
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hi mates, i've been trying to send something but it keeps saying "your comment was failed by the profanity filter" ..any idea?
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??? New one on me mate... the obvious qustion is, are any swear words in your post?
Hows tricks anyhow...
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Oh I don't know, maybe because one of the words you are typing is considered profanity.
Although it lets Arsenal through.
And I'm sure some people have typed in Liverpool Champions before, which is about as big a profanity as you can get in my book.
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i'm having a laugh. top notch robbo mate, but those theatrics are why we love soccer, aren't they? Give the bloke a break! RVP first went with both feet(i'm pretty sure Stevie Hunt turned red with envy on seeing that) but missed before he got stamped.
We don't just pay to watch some ego-laden cheats kick a pig's bladder around. see, if you don't wanna get kicked or stamped, retire and go join some sulky ballet team. Seriously, with the way things are going, we'll soon see players lodging complaints about on-pitch assault and battery, for just getting a little nudge. I stumbled on football365s John Nicholson's blog and was amazed at what he had to offer..here..http://www.football365.com/john_nicholson/0,17033,8746_5558673,00.html ..it's really a must read for every humour-minded fella.
i'm back buddies, Zoot, RBA, Trotter, Spitfire, you guys have kept it rolling all these while..owe u guys a pint (not in blue bell.. mind)is it me or has anyone noticed that JDR looks like an upgraded, biased and pitiful version of you-know-who(you dare not mention his name). I kinda enjoyed that fella..missed him.
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thanks RBA
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At 2:59pm on 15 Sep 2009, youngblueblood wrote:
i'm having a laugh.
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You fooled me.
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The F A could throw the book at Adebayor or they could get some Arsenal fans to do!
Boom! Boom!
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Do him for the stamp but the ref sorted the other on the pitch, that is what he is there for and he did a good job which should be recognized.
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Nah it's Adebayor - ban him forever just cos he plays for City.
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Gaz, my bad...u deserve an honourary mention too, and i'm doing it now. Son..step out now and take a bow.
DoverAthleticLad , Adebayor should only be banned on the account of cheating...yes cheating. if he had this kinda pace that makes lennon look like berbatov and we haven't seen it on the pitch 2ru out his whole career, yet he keeps shoving in trailer loads of quids every week, he truely deserves at least a 6 months ban. who know's..it might be Berbatov next...spurs watchout for boltbertov!!
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I'm a bit surprised that He Who Must Not Be Named hasn't appeared to remind us that we are all wasting licence fee money again.
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I fear that YBB means another, from long, long ago whose rants were, dare i say it, worse than the dreaded JDRs... We all prey that he never returns to darken the Robbo page again, tough the prophecy does say when the moon is full and the spurs take thier place in the Champions League... He shall return! To once more lay waste to common sense...
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Heidi Hi
RBA
On Saturday's evidence and putting aside the fact that we'd all like Robbo's predictions to be cast iron certs, we should be safe for a while!
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Who is this Dark Lord that would scare even the Nameless and his servants Andreisgiant and RedAstaire
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289... Fair point trotter mate, i think were OK on that front really, in which case...
290... This tool called SimpleTruth09, man had some agenda about Robbo being racist??? And he just kept on and on... He also went the way of JDR and done his wiki-search for this Niall character (?)... So he was like JDR, but genuinely vile... Search through the old blogs and check him out!
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ohhh I remember him, he was the blog equivalent of a dive, a riot-inciting celebration and a face stamping all rolled into one.
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(plus a middle finger in the refs face)
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He was all of those things and more... Men wanted to punch him, but women wanted to, well... punch him.
Makes our Joe seem pretty lame by comparison... Face it Roach, your a loser... But you'll never be half the loser that SimpleTruth was!
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If you paid me over £100,000 a week, I'd put up with verbal abuse from anyone!
He earns a massive wedge with City, surely he can deal with 90 minutes of people giving him a bit of stick without being a big baby about it?
Taxi for Adebayor.
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To those who say that Robbo did not critise the Arse'nal fans for their stupidity have you forgotten that his postings draw heavily on irony and analogy.
In this case I interpreted his description of the fans at the Blue Bell game as being the same as SOME (it was a small, inexcusable %)of the visiting Arsenal fans who had previously had their sense of humour surgically removed via a frontal lobotomy.
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haha, if JDR is Dick Dastardly... Which one of Andre and Red is Muttley?
As for the Vampire thing... that is too damn funny! And goes someway to explaining his dislike for the ray-of-light which is Robbos blog!
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Be on your guard Adam! He'll show up when least expected, rather like a EUFA disciplinary decision that makes sense.
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RBA, How wrong u are..i aint no spurs fan..just doing those poor spurs fellas some favour cos they might soon pop up with this kinda fuss pretty soon. They shud be wary of Berba, u heard it here first, matey. And i was meaning to call ...not sure if i should just say it out..i was meaning to say...ohh..u don't wanna hear it..ok..i was meaning to call .....SimpleTruth!!! oh..i shouldn't have said that..your bad, expect him soonest. sound scarier that Voldermort
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Trotter no one expects anything that makes sense ever to come from UEFA, they're rather like those Spanish Inquisition chaps.
BTW while I was in France I visited this museum of torture. Some of the implements used to inflict pain on people in the middle ages were astounding. They kept it up to date though, the tour finished with a reading of "My kind of politics" by one Joesph D. Roach.
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HEEEY! watch it Adam, u really don't wanna evoke "you-know-who", u don't wanna have anything to do with him...ask Robbo, RBA or Trotter, we all still have his scars on us
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Did it come witha DVD of teh film version of The Avengers cos that was opretty grim - worst film I have ever seen with the possible exception of Fargo
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302. At 5:18pm on 15 Sep 2009, youngblueblood wrote:
HEEEY! watch it Adam, u really don't wanna evoke "you-know-who", u don't wanna have anything to do with him...ask Robbo, RBA or Trotter, we all still have his scars on us
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Maybe teh Weasley Twins whipped him up some U-No-Poo (see Book 6)and he pooped himself down the loo or created a Horcrux using this website and JDR is this little portion of him that has been floating around in the ether and has found a home
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Gav, we're doomed by this greenhorn Adam bloke
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Gaz, another modern torture technique they've developed involves strapping the tortured into a front row seat at Grenoble home games.
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25pm on 15 Sep 2009, youngblueblood wrote:
Gav, we're doomed by this greenhorn Adam bloke
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Do not worry young sir if he shows up I will just talk about Electro-pop, mens fashions and why Gary Neville should captain England til he is 85 and he'll go away sharpish (mind you so will everyone else probably)
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Gav? Who is this Gav bloke? I don't remember the simpleton person, but then I have the attention span of a .... Oh, look a blue car.
I do remember RedSam though, now he was funny. Much in the same way as you would laugh at a good dose of something.
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Gary Neville is a bit of a quandry for me. (Yes, I said quandry).
Being Irish I would like to see him play as long as possible for England. Being a United fan I would like to see him captain a baby lamb XI, playing in red, against a World XI of the meanest, fiercest, deadliest pack of wild rabid bulls.
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Was RedSam a Communist Version of BigSam in Blackburn's away kit
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I would like to see him captain a baby lamb XI, playing in red, against a World XI of the meanest, fiercest, deadliest pack of wild rabid bulls.
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Was that when we played Bolton a couple of seasons ago?
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I'll take that as a compliment on behalf of the Trotters, Adam!
By the way, it seems to have escaped the attention of the main stream media but the big three were the only teams to win away from home on Saturday; Man U, Chelski and Bolton!
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I didn't notice that but well done - going home now so bye for now
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Why does every single Comments section end like this? A couple of hardcore posters take it over, using it to socialise and tell each other poor jokes, always relying on sarcasm as their vehicle for 'humour'.
In fairness, this exemplifies previous points I have made, most notably that although this a sports blog on the BBC, it gets hijacked by about 5 people adamant to talk utter nonsense that the rest of us have to read.
Yes I don't particularly like this weeks entry, nor the last few. And I am one of the 'critics' calling for a new comedic approach by Niall on here....but at least I don't post every 5 minutes!
Now I know whats going to happen. Those same 5 posters are going to come back at me and say "if you don't like it, don't read it". But that isn't exactly very helpful. Niall's blog can be decent, I am just looking for a new approach, which does NOT mean I am advocating the explusion of 'Robbo'. Therefore, as it can be occassionaly funny, I read it and decide at the end whether it was worth it or not. As for the posters, simply stating "you see my name, don't read my post", this is a nonsensical response. Other commentators reply to your posts, so without reading the entire section, there is no fluidity. Comically, I am not even alone on this. Niall, the author, a few weeks back took a shot at Gary United, asking him how come he had the time to post so often....Gary didn't seem to take the hint.
So Niall, can we have something different, allowing you to use more of your comedic talents on this blog...and hardcore posters, can you try and refrain from writing every single thought and action you do in your lives on this comments section?
Cue abusive retorts...wonder which of the five will be first
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So Niall, can we have something different, allowing you to use more of your comedic talents on this blog...
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Well I don't know who you're referring to, lad, but what do you want? A song? A little bit of old school French mime? A Two Ronnies sketch translated into Latin? I'm Robbo, me. Even the wife struggles to get me into tie at a family function so what chance you've got I dunno.
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I don't quite understand your reservations.
I presume you got in to this as the BBC approached you and asked you, being a good comedian and all, to offer up a comical blog on sport so as to lighten the mood.
I could be wrong, but I imagine therefore it was you who was the inspiration behind 'Robbo' and not your bosses.
Why can't you use some of your comedien expertise to provide a different approach? As I said, lets not do anything drastic and get rid of Robbo, the masses would have my head! But rather, instead of a bi-weekly and sometimes tri-weekly post using this Northerner character, do something different. The TWO blogs about the diving showcases the repetitiveness of this blog, that even you have said you sometimes grow weary from.
So come on Niall, why not? Surely its worth a shot.
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Ok, time to put on the serious head for just a minute.
Can someone please explain to me exactly what it is that Andre and JDR actually want. Despite having read their monotonous repititions for weeks now I still cannot figure it out. They don't want rid of Robbo but they don't want any Robbo jokes? Seriously, I haven't got a clue what they are after, has anyone else.
Now, off with the serious head. I am soooo glad I got to be the first of the "Famous Five" (unless of course one of the others have replied while I'm using the thesaurus to type this reply). I never really read the Famous 5 but wasn't one of them a dog? Who gets that honour?
I also find it hilarous that Andre is so concerned with my habits. Even though he managed to be sitting with the F5 key when Robbo replied. (I'm doing my best not to suggest there was something fishy there btw).
Andre, Robbo had a sly dig at me suggesting that perhaps the wife was off getting her jollies somewhere else. Now do you know what I did? Did I throw some coins at him? You must be joking, as a poor mature student that's never going to happen. Did I go round his house and threaten him? No. Did I call him all the names under the sun here? No. What I did was... wait for it... laugh! You should try it sometimes.
Just for your benefit Andre, seeing as you have such a fasination with it, I'll explain to you why I was spending so much time here during the summer. As I mentioned I am a mature student, which means full time education normally but not in the summer. Now during the summer I had an IT project (my previous career) which caused me to be in front of a computer for countless hours per day to get it finished and get paid. It gets pretty boring sitting in front of a computer for that long so to pass the time I had a few gags with people unlike you on here. i.e. Funny people.
So there you go Andre, I hope your mind is now at ease. If there's anything else you would like to know just ask, although I won't be replying to the question "Will you civil partnership me Gaz?".
PS Gaz is not short for Gary.
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Andre,
Can I be in the '5' please? It's irrelevant that you write more (garbage) in one or two endless posts than most of us write on here in a week but you learned from JDR so that's easily understood. Fact is, most of us write, well, not better garbage, no, that's not it, just more somehow worthwhile garbage.
However, that maters not, what would really interest me is how you feel about Adebayor's antics and what should result from them. If you care to delve into the deepest corners of your mindd and share your thoughts on polyester kits, real ale festivals, fat badgers, steely blokes in luminous jackets, Peter Crouch's shoulders or Emile Heskey's sponge boots that might help lighten the load on your mind. I reckon at the end of it all Robbo does spread a little happiness, go on, join in!
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Adebayor is a foolish child with a gigantic bank account and an inflated opinion of himself. He deserves to be banned for raking van Persie, and that's your lot.
The Gooner fans have surprised me immensely with their riotous behaviour, however. I would expect such shenanigans from other London clubs, but Arsenal? Now I know my namesake the Onion has already pointed this out, but Arsenal fans racist? They have one of the biggest black support bases in England. It doesn't make sense. It's like Spurs fans being holocaust deniers, Millwall fans promoting pacifism, or Rangers fans lining up to be blessed by the Pope.
Trotter, your question in the last blog; sorry mate, can't post from work. Security protocols are probably in place to stop that very sort of nonsense from occurring. It's infuriating sometimes as I often have my very best and most poignant notions whilst humouring degenerates.
As for the young bucks with their knickers in a twist over a comedy blog, I have this advice for the Famous Five:
"Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much"
Oscar Wilde
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Him (SimpleTruth09)
Oh yeah, I remember him. He was a laugh all right, right up there with catching a veneral disease.
#314 You kinda answered your own question in the second line. Namely the word 'Socialise.'
Anyway, since when did it become all the rage to write an essay for what was in essence a rhetorical question?
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http://vampirefreaks.com/simpletruth09
Hmmmm......
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Ahhh TommyB, I get it now, your 8.30 am posts were before you opened the "Newmarket" envelope with all the overnight inside information!
"Humouring degenerates" - precious, you and Robbo are in the same business!
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8.30am posts are generally because I work a preposterous, randomly generated set of hours. I could post at any time. It keeps the feds guessing.
Also, who's Precious? Can I meet her? Will she humour me or will I have to hand over the Aintree envelope? Now that would be precious!
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yeah yeah, precious, not Precious! Precious could probably accommodate your irregular hours, his, er, sorry, her number is on the wall of a public bathroom in San Francisco per information we received here. Contact the usual suspects for additional information and fee schedule.
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So as well as The Famous Five we have The Usual Suspects? Won't be long before X-men are having a fight with The A-Team while Bridget Jones is out the back with Jason Bourne giving him an ultimatum to take her down The Golden Mile or suffer a Shawshank Redemption.
God this game in Turkey is boring. If it wasn't for the nutcase Turkish fans and Rooney throwing his boots around I'd be asleep. (IMO I think Rooney's frustrations stem from the idiots playing around him)
Oh, Paul Scholes has just scored.
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I now see how a man from Bolton makes his living, in Uncle Sam's backyard, so to speak. Come to think of it, Precious did have hands like Freddie Flintoff. Unsubscribe.
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Robbo's going to be in a good mood tonight. What with coming from behind and all.
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Yes Tommy, precisely, the Garden State!
Gaz, Shawshank Redemption, one of the best movies ever (after Sound Of Music of course).
1-0 away is perfectly satisfactory!
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327. And they were briefly on top as well.
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Ha Ha - Evidence that Scholes and Gary Neville aren't past it - a goal and a clean sheet away - top result
Do I count as in the famous Five and if so can I be Julian as he was cooler than Dick & Timmy.
Now on to important questions
1) As we have established JDR is Dick Dastardly has Andre proved that he is Muttley and is Robbo the pigeon.
2)Can we somehow arrange for Everton and Portsmouth to get relegated
3) Does Robbo seriously think that signing other peoples defenders will make Southgate a good manager
4) Can we have a whip round and bribe the FA into banning Adebayor for the season (along with Tevez and anyone eelse who plays for City. Given the way Everton, Portsmouth and Hull are going 12 points should keep City up anyway
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Robbo can't be the pigeon, he's already Enid Blyton.
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what in the name of Titus Bramble are you all on about?
am i on a blog with a bunch of comic book geeks? Robbo making Morrissey jokes looks downright macho in comparison!
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Adebayor is one of those footballers who thinks the whole game is played and evolved around him. He's arrogant and mindless. He was at Arsenal saying things like I do love this club and am very happy here. He said he appreciated any amount of money Arsenal offered yet rumors have it, and i believe so, that he moved for the money. I am an Arsenal fan and to be honest, what he did was just disgusting.At Arsenal, he made his name. Nobody would have known him if he was still at Monaco, then he talks about appreciation.
I'd be intrested to know what Thierry Henry thinks about all this - he's the man. Though he left, he still loves Arsenal like he said.
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You're right Denis, it truly is pathetic but as soon as the FA made their Adebayor announcement everything went down hill. He's almost in as much trouble as El Hadji Diouf was when they discovered he hadn't paid his TV licence!
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didn't hear about that one, Trotsky. i'll bet he was "spitting mad" eh?
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Oh yes Denis, it's all there on the Beeb. It happened when he was at Liverpool mind you. First thing they discuss with new players and loan signings at Bolton is their TV licence fee. Page 1 of the Trotter handbook and apropos of nothing...right after pigeon loft design!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/manchester/4721865.stm
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a******* whinger's theme tune
my my my opia !
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wow. they really threw the book at him.
didn't realize that the fan he spat on was a Boro - so that's a 50/50 chance it was our fearless Robbo! and it all comes full circle...
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Excellent point Denis...and there were those that suggested this blog drifted off topic!
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Liverpool have signed Ngoo. We already have Ngog. What's Rafa upto? Sounds like a Swahili grammar lesson. Ngoo, Ngog, Ngah, Ngonis, Ngatum, Ngunt.
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This blog may have only 5 regular posters, it may have repetitive jokes, it may wander off topic from time to time, it may have a terminally boring duo slagging it off in the same manner week-in week-out and it may have adampsb talking utter guff about the merits of Gary Neville BUT when you compare it to McNulty's latest offering and you see responses like i've cut/pasted below you'll realise it's still the best football blog the BBC has
Realist Ancelotti relishes win
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Phil McNulty | 00:46 UK time, Wednesday, 16 September 2009
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Morning Gary,
First off, I'm not going to get in to a slagging match with you. All that'd do is belittle my previous point and thus unlikely evoke a serious response from Niall.
But given your response #317 (and others), I will use this to clarirfy my point.
From the last 4 weeks, here is what I know about you:
You are male.
You have a wife/girlfriend (I can't recall which).
Your wife/girlfriend has just become pregnant.
You are Irish.
You used to follow a League of Ireland team but don't go there any more due to the rowdy crowd (I could look up the name but I'm not bothered; it came up when another poster asked you to retort a comment you made).
Your previous career was in IT.
You are in University, presumably final year of a degree or Masters, as you had to do a 'summer project'.
You are an ardent Manchester United supporter.
You spent a while recently in France.
Firstly, it strikes me as somewhat bizarre that someone in IT would divulge so much personal information about themselves on the web. Yes, they could all be red herrings, but still why bother?
Secondly, and this is the point I've tried to make throughout, none of the above information has ANY relevance to this blog (except perhaps that you're a United supporter). In other words, all this rubbish about your wife, France and college etc. is highly unnecessary. Even the other members of the Famous Five don't rabbit on with as much irrelevant rubbish as you.
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Andre, am i in the 5? I post alot but only between 8.30 and 17.00 (whilst at work) so not as often as others??? But i do want to feel included...
Oh damn, now i have posted my working hours, my flat could get robbed whilst i am at work... no seriously, i'm like one of 5 people in Aldreshot who has a job, they could track me down...
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#343
Right, WWF boy. Gaz has answered questions after people attacked him consistently for posting on here. I'm not sure how having a laugh on a blog site with other regular posters to fill in the long hours as a student and soon-to-be father is of such concern to those who consider themselves defenders of the licence fee and bastions of truth and justice. You are a blight on everyone's enjoyment, lad. Get back under your bridge.
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345. At 10:41am on 16 Sep 2009, tommyb1982 wrote
I'm not sure how having a laugh on a blog site with other regular posters to fill in the long hours as a student and soon-to-be father is of such concern
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Thank you for clarifying my point. It is of NO CONCERN. I don't care and it has no place in this blog.
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It may have to become the Magnificent 7 or the G8 soon with all these membership applications. Don't worry, Andre, I'm sure the F5 forgive you
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Ooooh, you are clever! That sentence had a bit extra and you know it, you sneaky little swine. You should be a journalist!
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Would you like a hug?
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Famous 5? Magnificent 7? G8?
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I'M Spartacus!
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Nope. Gave you your chance, Andre. You should have replied, "Well, you're certainly revolting."
But you didn't.
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Well, you're certainly revolting Zoots, hahaha....oh
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RedBlue
Still quicker than Andre, though.
I thought for a moment that Permanent Revolution was back in vogue. Trotskii would have been pleased.(Assuming that Andre hasn't had him axed)
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All posters are created equal,
Though some posters are created more irritating than ohters!
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Andre's busy piledriving at the moment, so can't come to the keyboard right now.
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I see McNulty's blog continues apace
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Onion, you bring tears to my eyes.
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honestly - i don't know how people can whinge about what goes on here when the main football writers' blog is continually ruined by utterly ridiculous moderation.
The ironic thing is the first post in that blog was along the lines of
"1st comment - woohoo !"
which despite taking 2 hours to moderate slipped through to get posted before being complained about by someone else !!!!
BTW - I appreciate posting this on McNulty's blog would probably be more appropriate but it seems my previous complaints about the moderation there - along with pointing out some stunning inconsistencies from the Blogger-in-Chief there have lead to me being banned !! HAHA !
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its jokes over on old man McNultys blog... whats worse is he posts his own little retorts and musings whilst every other poor sod has to wait for moderation, and he usualy signs off with a coy little question to spark further debate... well heres a tip McNulty, let people actually post and more lively debate will ensue!
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Everything in moderation, including moderation. That's what a Buddhist friend of mine used to say. He often used to walk up to a hotdog stand and request that the stallholder make him one with everything.
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At 10:45am on 16 Sep 2009, Andreisgiant wrote:
Thank you for clarifying my point. It is of NO CONCERN. I don't care and it has no place in this blog.
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We're getting distinctly fashist here now aren't we? Telling people what they can or can't idly rabbit about in a blog?
Do us all a favour and go back to writing letters of outrage for the Daily Mail if we're bothering you so much because your moaning's notgoing to change anything.
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This is what we know of Andre, and for this insight, I spent exactly 0 minutes on research.
He has no life.
For this conclusion I only stumbled upon comment 343.
Who, in there right mind would go through old and rotten heaps of produce, that they dont even like fresh out of oven?
A wise man once said,"A fanatic is one who cannot change his opinion and wdoes not change the topic" (or something similar)
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Spitfire
Andre on 343 is seriously weird. His opening is "Morning Gary", although his prey has told him that that is not his name. His next sentence is, "I'm not going to get into a slagging match with you"; and this precedes his slagblog. His third sentence is gibberish.
Then follows the kind of vedetta-fixated analysis that usually comes before the bunny is boiled.
What is it about these vendetta merchants that only allows them to belittle their prey in fives? "Famous Five"; "The five or so Robbo fans"... It's as though they can't arrive at an expression which lies outwith the number of fingers of one hand.
And, just in case Andre and his cohort of Puritan killjoys are feeling especially nit-picky, I know for a fact that Tom Finger enjoys fish thumbs.
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#343 Andre
Thanks you for your profile of the user Gaz_Utd it was very helpful and informative as we now have a good idea of Gaz's life.
I have decided to follow in your footsteps and profile the user AndreisGiant: -
You are boring
Miserable
Tedious
Repetitive
Are too worried about getting "value" from your TV Licence despite the fact that it is a tax and it's not like you have a choice as to whether to pay it.
Uses streotypical cliches
Is an ardent admirer of the JoeDavisRoach method of winning friends in online forums
Quite possibly more annoying than said JDR
Does not understand football considering you never make any footballing points
Has a serious inferiority complex that needs dealing with
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#364 - maybe he only has one hand and never finished Key Stage -1 numeracy
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#364 & #366- Maybe he is just a cretin?
Though #343 is a master-peice of prize winning jibberish and it is capped off with delightful irony as the posts purpose is claimed "to clarify his point"... the only thing left clear by that embarrassing post is the fact Andre is cretin of the highest order.
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Zoot - You often provoke my bursting into song, today it's "Talk about a revolution"
Tommy O - I was delighted to see that BTP is on the other page but his being moderated will probably bring him back here soon. However, as I'm taking the advice of Oscar, as offered by TommyB, it's all ok.
In Andre's profile of Gaz, he missed the fact that Gaz is bang up to date on torture methods, past and present!
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Tommy B, one word for you pal....Ngoramus!
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How about Shakespeare's Sister's "The Trouble with Andre" off the album Hormonally Yours
the trouble with andre
is he thinks he hides everything"
but i know the trouble with andre
is he's a liar
and you know
the trouble with andre
is he thinks he fools everyone
but i know the trouble with andre
is his disguise
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Adam, you aren't at one with the hot dog yet, nevermind everything!
And where's Gaz. Hopefully reading all the reports from last night's games so we can get back on topic.
TommyB is surely watching but can't post, they're under orders for the 2:30
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http://i30.tinypic.com/25rfu6b.jpg
Says it all really.
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I'm here!
I couldn't post all morning because I was filling in police reports and talking to the media after the house was besiged by 10000 lonely internet hearts last night due to me giving away too much information on this blog.
Then I spent the last 15 minutes laughing so hard that I think I may never have any more children and all of your replies to Andre.
I think Zoot summed up his earlier post perfectly (Zoot tends to have a habit of doing that which just goes to prove that he is way too smart for this place).
Now, should I be more worried that a random nutcase may track me down and do some untold damage or will I get myself into the Robbo Protection Programme before a certain internet stalker that seems to have latched on to me comes round demanding favours of a freaky nature?!
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I did read the hotdog one
Last nights games involving English clubs in teh Champions League were a bit dull but United & Chelsea ground out a win which is what matters in the end. Bit concerned about Wolfsburg as they looked good last night.
Ronaldo showed us what we are missing in a good win and despite really wishing Madrid's galacticos policy fails I think they are going to be in the final this year (hopefully that is when Utd will beat them)
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Is that all.. I posted ona blog about my love of electro-disco and football and half a Japanese city full of females descend on my doorstep. Although that may have been due to a misunderstanding about a comnment on size, marriage and british passports/ work permits
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Oh, I almost forgot...
Andre, reply away, I welcome it because...
"I may not like what you have to say but I will defend to the death the right to call you an idiot for saying it."
Do you see what I did there?!
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At 11:20am on 16 Sep 2009, tommyb1982 wrote:
Andre's busy piledriving at the moment, so can't come to the keyboard right now.
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Tommy, I think you will find that most of Andre's "piledriving" is done while he is at his keyboard.
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classic!
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And another thing. Trotter distinctly told us the other day that he was going to a NY Giants game where he would be having a party in a car park.
Trotter, this is well out of order. Don't you realise that it has absolutely nothing to do with telling Andre how great he is and how he is always right.
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I'm having so much fun and laughing so hard at the previous replies that I just want to keep on posting.
But I am afraid that 5 or 6 posts in about 10 minutes (I'll let him work out the exact figures) may in some way insinuate that I have no life and lead to me explaining how I managed it (on the sofa, feet up, btw) which will in turn lead to arrest by the superiority police.
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Are you sure we're allowed free thought these days. I was reading the sequel to 1984 (a document called Future Home Office Policy Under A Labour/ Stalinist Government) and there was something in there about freedom of suppression should be expressed.
Or is that expression should be suppressed?
There is an old song from the Threepenny Opera called What Keeps Mankind Alive which sums it up.
What keeps mankind alive, the fact that millions
Are daily tortured, stifled, punished, silenced, oppressed
Mankind can keep alive, thanks to its brilliance
At keeping its humanity repressed
It could just be about people having to watch Newcastle every Saturday
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Look if you are going to bring Opera into it then I might just have to up sticks and leave.
Cue rendition of "La Triviata" by Andre.
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You're just Maskerading as an opera fan (as am I as I only know a couple).
Did you notice that Ipswich failed to win again - Mr Keane could be in trouble soon if they don't start winning.
I noticed that one man goal machine Jon Stead was shipped out after Keane remembered that Steady couldn't hit the Titanic with an Iceberg. (2 goals in 40 appearances with sunderland - in fact for a striker he's really pants having scored 61 goals in 8 seasons at 6 clubs )
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You're right Gaz, the party was a blast, 80,000 revellers (is that one 'l' or two Zoot?). Giants won and I got a picture of my lad with Tiki Barber, I know, nobody cares about that but Tiki is famous in these parts. He retired two years ago as the Giants leading rusher and now is an analyst on tele (he's the NY equivalent of Shearer or Lawro). There's an Andre that plays for the Houston Texans, I wonder......Anyway, I've already told Andre what I think and he could give a rat's a$%* so I'm just trying to take TommyB's pals advice and be at one with the hot dog! That's now my life mission.
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I've been at one with the hotdog, the big-mac and the supersize coke for years now. That's why I've ended up in Weightwatchers.
Is that too much information? It could be that the "giant" part refers to being fat, in which case he could go to WW too. OMG, I'm in for it at tonights meeting!
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Adam I am refusing to comment on the dilemmas of a certain Mr. Royston Keane due to the fact that Irn_Bru will be down on me like a ton of girders.
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No, it's not too much information, we knew that already from our dialogue covering deep fried Scottish food! I think it was somehow pertinent to one of Robbo's cricket blogs (or maybe it was tennis). The only surprise is that Anders didn't include it on your profile!
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If Irn_bru is down on you I can forsee some problems.
In terms of the premier league sack race who will be first? I reckon they may all survive but Paul Hart is likely for the trigger finger with maybe Gary Megson as Bolton fans just haven't taken to him but I think the best candidate is: -
Mick McCarthy
As he tries to better his Premier League record with Sunderland and beats Derby's record points (or lack of) total.
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Adam you are really trying to get him back aren't you. It all started because I sad something bad about St. Mick. Nevertheless I don't think he'll go before Hart or Megson. Or even Rafa for that matter.
Anyone seen the news that Kenyon is leaving his post at Chelsea. Probably on his way back to Manchester. Still with a blue shirt on though. Nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that City now have more money than Chelsea.
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Adam, as a BWFC fan I think Megson is doing alright and the fans need to cut him some slack. problem is, he followed Big Sam who the fans loved as both player and manager and Sam's a tough act to follow (unless your name is Keegan and the club is Newcastle, we all know how that worked out). Short of getting Sam back they wouldn't be happy with anyone and changing managers just to make a minority of fans happy for one or two weekends, is not a wise solution! I reckon Phil Garside knows this and sees that Bolton are getting the pieces in place to be steady mid-table this year. Of course, if they're out of touch at Christmas all bets are off!
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Gaz mate, you really think Rafa will go? God i hope your right, i honestly think the league will be a better place with out him... dreadful man... At least with Arsene and the red nosed one you have moments of comedy... Wengers line about a hundred men and MArk Hughes is quality. And in fairness to Carlo, hardly hillarious but he has a little substance. When Rafa is talking i can honestly feel the life being drained from me...
If Rafa gets the boot and Spurs finish 4th... Parmos are on me!
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I doubt Bolton will be in the bottom 3 at Christmas.
I think at that point it will be Wolves, Everton and Portsmouth still. You're right about the fans though definitely need to be patient.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Uncle Fester rock up at City, claim he's always been a fan and is there... wait for it.. FOR THE CHALLENGE.
Either that or Roman reckons the Kakuta thing is Kenyons fault and has forced him to step down
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Gaz, the writing's been on the wall for Rafa since they brought Dalglish back. Plain as day. That'll be a great Robbo blog with a new record post quantity! In fact, could TommyB please post the odds for the 1st prem manager out race?
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RBA you have described the best season outcome. Liverpool and Arsenal out of the top 4 with Spurs taking their place - probably with City but you can't have everything. I'd laugh if Stoke and Sunderland nicked the Europa league spots as well
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I think there's a good chance of Rafa going. I don't want it to happen though. Yes he's irritating but Pool will never win the league with him there so the irritation of his bleatings are nothing in comparison with the irritation of thousands of Scousers saying how they are the best team for the last 20 years just because they won the league once.
I'm sticking by my prediction of Pool out of the top 4 though.
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Just thought I should let you know that I am following this discussion live.
I have nothing relevant to add but that has never hindered most ppl before, eh?
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I have it on good authority that Irn-Bru is otherwise engaged.
Since I mentioned Snowhite on the previous blog, he's been considering switching to 7-Up.
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I think last season was the best ever EPL in terms of exciting matches all around and it culminated with the relegation of two clubs that claim to deserve greater things.
This season is going to be better.
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I can't see Everton staying near the bottom, too much talent but Hull have started the season the same way they played for the last 4 months of 08/09 and have to be in the frame for relegation. Pompey have had such a clear-out and brought in such cheap talent that getting them moving in the right direction will be a monumental task.
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yeah but if Robbo can make 400 comments anything can happen! Plus Dr Al Saim Foolishman is promising some BIG spending in January... Hull for certs though, hope for another dog fight like last year, great drama...
But Chris Charles reckons this is the year for the Shots... so if any blogger has a prediction i am backing its him!
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#397 - possibly with Precious - maybe he found that number in San Francisco.
Trotter you could be right but keeping Tango-man in the premier league annoys loads of Newcastle fans so he needs to stay
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RBA, I'm rooting for a BWFC v Aldershot FA Cup final!
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Mate, thats the stuff of dreams... an all ginger manager final!
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A top 3 of Notts County, Aldershot and Rochdale with Accrington Stanley in teh play-offs -
Now that would be unlikely.
Also how long before Grimsby finally run out of clubs either in administration or just worse than they are and get relegated. They had a 17 point lead on Rotherham and Bournemouth and it still took Luton & Chester being docked points to save them.
You would think they would wake up and get up the table but no - same old same old every season
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403...Meggo will be totally bald if they have a cup run and a relegation battle to deal with. Hair color won't matter! I'll get a ticket home for that though. In fact, if he'd just wear a flat cap and ingraciate himself a bit more, he'd be proper loved. I know, a northern stereotype comment, sorry JDR.
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#391 – where’s the comedy from Ferguson?
Or are we counting him getting punched in the nuts by a homeless person? Or did you mean when he produced the ‘ I’d crapped my pants’ defence to escape penalty for driving on the hard shoulder? Or when he went mental at a bunch of journalists screaming how Veron was a ‘****ing great player’ before selling him for a £14m loss? Or the ‘we were the better team’ line delivered hours after getting hammered 4-1 at home and then hiding in the dressing room refusing to face the TV cameras? Or when he slags off a fellow manager for something he never said and then 2 months later makes exactly the same comments himself, like some sort of giant hypocritical wingnut?
Actually – come to think of it you’re right, the man’s a panic! My favourite is that ‘bulldog licking p*ss of a nettle’ look he has when Mike Riley forgets to add on sufficient time for United to score an equaliser – that one cracks me up !
#393 ‘they’ didn’t bring Dalglish back – Benitez brought Dalglish back. How that makes the ‘writing on the wall for Rafa’ God only knows.
There’s been plenty opportunity for Rafa to jump or be pushed over the past few years and he’s still there. He’s as likely to win the League for Liverpool as anyone else out there and twice as likely to deliver another European Cup so I’m quite happy, like most Liverpool fans, for him to remain for the foreseeable.
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Tommy, with all due respect, I don't think it was Rafa's masterplan to bring in a potential replacement that would have the overwhelming approval of everybody associated with the club past and present.
Certainly he couldn't dispute the wisdom in having such a Liverpool legend as KD in the ranks (in any capacity) and was happy to give the deal his rubber stamp and talk positively about it. However, let's not be under any illusions that he walked in one day and said, "hey, I have an idea, let's bring Kenny back." My best mate is a die hard LFC fan and even he understands this.
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If you, or your mate, think the overhaul that's gone on of the backroom staff at Anfield has been done by anyone other than Rafa then you've clearly not been paying attention these past 5 years.
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How long ago did the pi55ing contest with Rick Parry end?
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what's that got to do with the price of eggs?
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Just to point out that he didn't have it all his own way the last 5 years!
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Andre,
As any meaningful comment on your posts has been drowned out in the usual way, by the usual suspects, through a deluge of banal, trite and downright unfunny comments I guess it is up to me, as a fan of Robbo to defend his output by using reasoned argument rather than trying to shout you down. Before I begin I have to say that I find Robbo funny. Humour, as I’m sure you are well aware, is a very personal issue and I find the sly digs he sends towards the Big Four and Man C (now they are rich) to be very funny as they tend to be understated. In addition I find his analysis to be fairly insightful and he is also capable of casting a withering look at his own team and their predicaments.
In my opinion, Robbo does not have editorial control over his blogs. It is likely he has been contracted to write this blog in the style of a northern fan. In this case it is not under his control how he writes this blog. This has been supplied to him and his remit is to continue in this vein until his editors decide that it has run its’ course. Having said that, not knowing the personal history of the author, it may very well be the case that he is indeed from Middlesborough and may actually converse in this manner in his normal everyday conversations. In any case I am fairly sure he is a fan of the team as this can be a fairly difficult thing to pretend.
If this is indeed the case it is pointless criticizing Robbo personally for the nature and style of his blog. Even if he wished it to be different or grew tired of it he cannot write it in any other style and still get it published on the BBC website. I would, therefore, suggest that your comments or complaints be addressed to his commissioning editor rather than Robbo himself. It may very well be the case that the author has other projects on the side, his own website or stand up for instance, where he may be able to more fully express his true comedic nature and which, if you are interested, you may be able to access.
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Andre,
As regards the response to your postings by the witless and the bewildered there are a number of points I would like to make. These people take your comments personally and I believe the reason is that they find Robbo hilarious and, therefore, any attack on him has an implied criticism for them also. Nobody likes to have their sense of humour criticized and it is understandable, if rather petty, that they should react in this way. However, if they only want people who enjoy Robbo to comment on this blog then they are missing a very important point. If they wish this to be the case it is they who should not comment here but rather should set up their own group where they can rhapsodize to their hearts content and leave the comments section here to those who still retain their critical faculties. In any case it is a self affirming little group. You only have to look at some previous blogs to see the amount of times they praise each others little nuggets of wisdom or pearls of wit that they have spent hours trying to compose.
In my opinion GazBag is a fantasist. When there was a question as to his intimate nature (started ironically by one of his own comments) we suddenly found that he had a wife which had never been mentioned before. When the rumours persisted we were suddenly informed that she was pregnant. When someone commented on the amount of time he spent on this blog and told him to find gainful employment we were informed that he was working on a big computer project and that he was a mature student. The only comment I would make on the latter claim is that he certainly puts the n in mature.
RotterUSA supports Bolton Wanderers and, therefore, has enough grief in his life without me adding to it here.
Rootsac’s posts are usually short and succinct and almost always include a little sub-Robbo humour. It is obvious, though, that he spends hours on their composition.
RBA92, if that is when he was born, is only 16/17 years old and writes as such.Young, dumb and full of dung.
madampsb I’m afraid is simply a dimwit. His garbled prose, mangled syntax and inability to use a spellchecker render most of his posts unintelligible and those that are usually spout some nonsense that he picked up in that mornings’ red tops.
That should keep them going for the time being.
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which area of the backroom staff was Parry working in again?
Parry kept his job as part of the G & H takeover and ultimately, Rafa won that particular pi55ing contest didn't he?
Who was in charge of the academy when Rafa tookover? Where is he now and why?
as i said - sounds like neither you or your mate have much of a clue
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Irn-Bru, I'm flattered, you have helped me become even more at one with the hot dog.
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Yes Tommy, Raffa won it after over 4 years of its duration, so to say that "anyone other than Rafa" didn't share in whatever happened is a bit of a stretch.
I have no idea who was in charge of the academy when Rafa took over, nor where he is now, nor why. Nor do I have the inclination to look it up right now so please explain it and the relevance.
I tried to express just two points; One; That it wasn't Rafa's great brainwave to bring back KD. Two; A prediction that KD will eventually replace Rafa and for that we'll have to wait and see!
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Woo, we have new nicknames.
I'm not only flattered but I'm extremely turned on. Irn_Bru, meet me tonight in the top West Dublin gay hang out. You know where it is.
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GazBag, don't you have WW tonight?
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Rafa's took on the owners (misguided, i thought but still) and won
He took on Parry and won
He fell out with Steve Heighway at the academy (despite back to back Youth Cup wins) and won
He appoints his own backroom team, including appointing then sacking Gary Ablett as reserve team coach
He's pinpointed on a number of occasion over the past 5 years the importance of the academy and has increasingly wanted control over how it's run - he won that argument too
The point, which is sailing miles over you and your mate's head, is that when it comes to football personnel at LFC Rafa is in charge. No question.
If the Execs wanted to appointed KD as a global ambassador without Rafa's say so then fine but the idea he's going to work at the academy means it's because Rafa wants him there. Whoever was the first to have the brainwave, i've no idea. I do know it's been talked about for some time.
If/when Rafa ever leaves KD will always be named as a possible replacement - he doesn't need to be working at the club for it to happen, the man's an absolute, bona fide, Grade A legend. Whether he'd want to take on such a job after his previous experiences is very much open to question.
Finally - you were actually expressing one point that i took umbrage with - that the 'writing was on the wall for Rafa' the moment 'they' appointed KD.
That point was and remains a load of old JDR.
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We'll have to wait and see then! I'll make a public apology on Robbo's blog if KD's not in charge by the 2014 World Cup or if Rafa is succeeded by someone other than KD before then! Fair enough?
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(assuming JDR's attempts at removal have failed and Robbo still has a blog)
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At 6:56pm on 16 Sep 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:
GazBag, don't you have WW tonight?
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T.osser, I decided I couldn't be bothered and sat on the sofa eating a big dinner instead. Might be why it isn't working.
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413 posted at 6:26
412 posted at 6.26
God, he's quick.
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God, he's quick.
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Hopefully not later tonight.
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You surely aren't suggesting that all that was typed out and copied and pasted from a piece of software with a spell checker, are you Zoot?
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gutted that i didn't make Irabu's slag-off list, the mark of Robborelevance.
might as well snuff it...
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425 Gaz
I'm simply ensuring that Irn Bru is given due credit for an impressive afternoon's work.
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Given the score after 5 minutes Denis you might just want to!
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422
So, you miss WW and now you're gonna leave Irn Bru standing out in the rain while you watch footy, sprawled out on the sofa? Strikes me that you must be the "man" of the relationship!
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427
Zoot, that must have taken the best part of September, not just the afternoon!
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I do like to give Trotter.
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Trotter
Aw... Don't be too hard on poor old Irn Bru. He's SO pleased with his masterpiece. Note that triumphalist last sentence. And those sad little nicknames...
He's trying REALLY hard.
Half time. Arsenal are having an interesting evening.
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Was that a St. Steven "simulation" attempt there I just seen at Anfield? Surely my eyes were deceiving me.
Ooops, better not turn this into a diving debate again.
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Zoot, please see 415. I wasn't hard on Irn Bru at all! Rather honoured to get a mention in such lofty company!
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good comeback, you Arsenal - still, a worrying performance.
no footy on the tele here, only Men's Diving, live from Anfield.
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420. At 7:04pm on 16 Sep 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:
We'll have to wait and see then! I'll make a public apology on Robbo's blog if KD's not in charge by the 2014 World Cup or if Rafa is succeeded by someone other than KD before then! Fair enough?
So the 'writing's on the wall' for Rafa but it may take up to 5 years for him to go!!!
was there a beeping sound as you were typing that ?
Btw - there's a lot more chance of Rafa being at Liverpool in 5 years time than Robbo having a blog
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* 433. At 8:55pm on 16 Sep 2009, GazUtd wrote:
Was that a St. Steven "simulation" attempt there I just seen at Anfield?
nope - clearly had his shirt pulled and being impeded for the first one and was nudged off the ball by the defender for the second.
I wouldn't call either a penalty but there was contact on both occasions before he went over - take note Wayne.
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Message from Specsavers:
Your new rose-tinted specs are now in stock Tommy. You can pick them up at your earliest convenience. Which will be around 15 mins after the next dole cheque I suppose.
Oops, was that a stereotype!
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lame
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TommyO, it could be next week for all I know, I'll give you an apology whenever it happens, if it happens. What do you want, a retraction? That, you won't get! Here's an interesting article suggesting that Mourinho might be in with a chance but I reckon they'd offer it to KD first. Thing is, it makes sense to have a succession plan, Americans are all about that stuff! Remember that little chat they had with Klinsman? Stupid but nontheless true.
http://www.online-betting-guide.co.uk/news/18227125/Next+Liverpool+Manager+Betting+Odds+Suggest+Kenny+Dalglish+Or+Jose+Mourinho+Will+Replace+Rafa+Benitez.html
Gaz, they didn't show a replay on our tele until I was already nodding off but I thought we'd already established, after exhaustive debate and testimony during the summer, that Stevie is NOT a diver?
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In a rush but I can’t see KD taking charge Trotter but I also can’t see Raffa lasting much longer, especially if Liverpool don’t win something this season, which to be fair they could do but not the premiership (always a good bet for the CL). Mostly a good year for football I reckon (bar the diving/stamping obviously), anything could happen!
Wow IRA Abu - it seems to have taken you abu since your last posting to write that (last post was 7th September I think but I could be wrong), although the first one actually made sense - it’s whether Andre actually sees sense and takes note.
Any comments on the subject of this blog seeing as you mention that you ‘enjoy Robbo’s blogs’…or in fact any football comments of any kind, obviously apart from your love of Mick and the loathing of Roy? There seems to be a lack of it in your previous posts.
I look forward to your post on your football know how in what another 9 days...
Night all..
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Ira_bru
Why don't you and your numpty mate Andre get lost and go and annoy someone elses blog. We all have fun posting and socialising and if all you can do is insult people I suggest you get a large implement and stick it where the sun doesn't shine
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I must agree with TommyO on his assessment of the Reds' managerial situation. We have improved vastly since the bad old days of Houllier's statistical obsessions, and most Kopites love Rafa. We all know our own club better because we are unhealthily attentive to its development. Just so happens that people, often via the lazy tabloid press, have a lot more to say about the high profile ones, so are bound to attract more cynicism and naysayers. As for 2014, Trott, I dunno, but we're genuinely confident rather than filled with bravado as we were previously.
Looked into odds for sackings, book's closed while CL is on. In case someone might lose to Debrechen, I'd imagine
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Of course the Kopites love Rafa, what's not to love? I just think that G&H didn't buy the club for any other reason than making a substantial return on their investment (this is a fundamental they agree on). To get the $ return they seek, they need success, support and a new stadium. They realise that success needs to run through the entire organisation (they have experience in these matters) and they know very well the alternatives. So what better way to prepare the next manager than let him run the academy for a while, make all the ground floor decisions about the lads he'll be bringing into the future? What's more, the fans who have been so much against the pair will be on their side when the time comes because the next manager is a legend of their very own. By the time KD's academy lads are coming through, the credit crunch will hase eased, the fan base will have a few extra quid to cough up, the bickering will end and it'll be blue skies over the new stadium. It's genius! And all this before Summer 2014.
The added benefits are that Fergie will have retired by then, Chelsea will still be in the middle of their 10 year transfer ban and most of their squad pushing 40 years old. Your only challengers for glory will be Arsenal and Bolton!
Who was favourite when they closed the book?
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Interesting theory, Trott, but there's a bit too much conjecture in there for me. I just don't think Kenny would take over again. It seemed you were agreeing with Gaz's somewhat misguided theory that Rafa is not upto the job. He could certainly do with a more affable tv persona, though, that's for sure, even if media representation of him is somewhat hysterical at times.
Fergie retired by 2014? He'll die before he retires. It'll be Jock Stein all over again!
Will check out the book on managers today.
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I agree Fergiew will stay on until Fergie Jnr is ready to take over. Steve bruce better get used to being at Sunderland
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As i was mentioned in IrnBru's quickly typed post (well spotted that man Zoots) am i in the Famous Five?
Wow, what a tool that guy is... though his postings have really helped me through my GCSEs this year? Have a look at the year the greatest football club (from Aldershot) was re-formed, like a mighty pheonix from the flames of administration, then you will see where the 92 comes from. And i didn't even get a nickname? DreadBlueBarmy, DeadClueSalami, HeadsLooseBarmy... I dont know, nicknames are your bag not mine. But everyone else got a nickname i wanted one too!
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444 - KD isn't running the academy !!!!!!!!!!
seriously Trotter - you don't know what you're talking about
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Ira-bru's post proves how lame he really is. He has a go for not using a spellchecker as I just type in the little box at the bottom of the blog whereas I suspect he uses a full spelling, grammar and punctuation check in Word before posting and probably spends the hours composing that he accuses Zoot of doing. He obviously couldn't think of a letter to put infront of Red or substitute the R with which is why you didn't get a nickname although I do like DeadClueSalami.
It seems that you are in the famous five with Zoot me & Trotter.
Irais as well although his character would be Dick
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So anyway - back on topic - 3 match ban coming up for Adebayor
that leaves them stuffed for the visit to Old Trafford this weekend. Shame - was looking forward to a decent contest.
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I think we should leave the footballistically challenged people to keep on crying until they learn that its no way to get what you want. Important parenting lesson that.
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I read that it possibly was going to be 4 because of the intent. They are hearing the case today and as City have accepted the charge it looks like he won't be playing Sunday.
I liked Evra's little comment that he might join in booing Tevez with the fand. Quite funny that.
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If Adebayor did a celebration like again that he'd be probably be up for fighting with Stewards too !!
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Is it me, or are City now a very real threat, as is Adebayor, a man who conjured up as much fear in a defender as a rich tea biscuit last campaign, is now creating sighs of releif, at Old Trafford of all places, as he is not going to be playing??? IS this a sign of the forward progression of City, or the steps backward Man Utd have taken now they are Ronaldoless??? Crazy days...
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I think City are undoubtedly a threat
Their side 1-11 are all internationals, great keeper, solid defence, they have no European distractions whatsoever this year and they have an abundance of attacking talent - admittedly stretched to the limit at the moment through many injuries and Adebayor's forthcoming suspension.
They also have the option of spending heavily again in January if need be.
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if i was gettin abused by my own fans for months at my old club and scored against them i would do the same, maybe not run the whole length of the pitch but make a gesture in their direction...... no excuses what he did to van persie tho they suppose to be mates
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I really did not think it would gel, but you know what if they get a result against Utd and can keep a good team spirit, they could do it, go all the way... Likewise though i do think if they get a thumping against the likes Sunderland/Stoke etc... all that built confidence could shatter like Englishmans metatarsal in build up to a world cup!
Good season ahead methinks....
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If he'd ever bothered his backside in the last 12 months at the Emirates to put as much effort into playing as he did in that celebration then perhaps they wouldn't have been abusing him in the first place?
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Tommy O, this is what you wrote at post 419....
"If the Execs wanted to appointed KD as a global ambassador without Rafa's say so then fine but the idea he's going to work at the academy means it's because Rafa wants him there. Whoever was the first to have the brainwave, i've no idea. I do know it's been talked about for some time."
So, is he running the academy or not? Is the problem here the difference between the words "work at" and "run".
I reckon that the folks that own the club, same as other clubs and businesses too, are planning the long term future with KD and not Rafa. Yes, as TommyB points out, it's conjecture but I think that's just one aspect of the plans they must consider. It's a long term plan and not an injury time set piece that they're working on. They don't sit in the pub for three days talking about the last game and the next, they have a totally different objective to the fans!
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How rude of me....GOOD MORNING!
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he's working at the academy
he's not running it
geddit?
you haven't got a clue
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For Now.
How long before rafa finally does a Keegan and resigns due to an argument with the tea lady that has been at Anfield for 130 years. Would Mr Dalglish step into the breach as Rafa is certainly unstable enough to walk especially with the Madrid job possibly coming up if Real aren't top at Christmas
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If Rafa walked out/got sacked inevitably Dalglish's name would get linked to the job. It would whether he was working at the club or not. The fact that he has taken up a role as the Club's global ambassador and going to do some coaching work at the academy does not make the 'writing on the wall' for Benitez.
Now, Trotter can keep on digging all he likes and you can jump in the pit with a spade and join him if you like but it doesn't change the fact that he hasn't got a clue, as evidenced by multiple posts now, on what is and has been going on at Anfield.
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Would Rafa leave for Real Madrid if they came-a-knocking??? If 'pool are looking shaky come chrimbo, and Real are sniffing... I think that could happen... Although things are looking cosier at the Kop between he and the yanks... if it were me the Klinsman saga would still casting a distant shadow of contempt and the prospect of working with unlimited funds and some of the worlds greatest talent... He could go! Could that also usher the 60million exit of Roy of the Rovers? Never?
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wouldn't surprise me to see him manage Madrid one day, nor would it surprise me if he managed the Spanish National team either - but then i think he's a good manager !
The thing about Madrid is the poltical shenanagins that goes on at Borad level means a manger usually only gets one or two seasons regardless of success achieved. So the question is at this stage of his career why give up the project that he's working on, and being given time to work on at Liverpool, where he's loved by the fans and his family are settled ?
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I'm not saying anything is "going on" at Anfield I'm saying that Rafa is a bit too mercurial in some ways and if Liverpool aren't mounting a serious challenge at Christmas, fans may start to question his ability to deliver the title (last won by KD I believe)and that in turn may cause him to consider going (especially if Real were sniffing). To be fair teh same could also be said of Jose Mourinho but he is reasonably secure as Inter are the current champions but if he goes out at the group stage and teh Real job is available he may fancy it.)
BTW That CL group could be quite interesting as Inter and Barca will likely cancel each other out and if Dynamo Kiev take advantage of it we may see a very big scalp at the first hurdle.
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http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2009/09/16/part-two-of-exclusive-chat-with-new-liverpool-fc-chief-christian-purslow-hillsborough-istanbul-and-the-future-100252-24700442/2/
the writing's on the wall........
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TommyO, if you say I haven't got a clue then it must be so. And Kenny Dalglish is a master of public speaking, embraces the hours he spends in front of the media, overseas supporters groups and is perfectly suited to the role of global ambassador without any potential thought being given by him or any of those in the corridors of power at Anfield, to him taking over from Rafa. Completely clueless conjecture! It's just the bloke in the street that naturally links him with any vacancy at Liverpool and even the bookies are stupid to install him as 2-1 favourite ahead of Jose and Klinsman a rank outsider!
On the other hand, you wouldn't be surprised to see Rafa manage Madrid or the Spanish National Team one day, when do you reckon that might happen? By 2014?
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who knows - the bloke is 49, he has many years in management ahead of him, having just signed a 5 year contract at anfield i wouldn't expect it will be any time soon
i wouldn't be stupid enough to claim the writing was on the wall for him leaving for Spain but then back track and want at least 5 years to be proven right though !
who is the bookies favourite to take over at OT after Ferguson? is the writing on the wall for that too?
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Darren Ferguson is the bookies favourite to take over at Old Trafford although he'll be waiting another 10 years though as I can't see Fergie quitting anytime soon - at least not until he has put City back in their place.
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450. At 10:37am on 17 Sep 2009, adampsb wrote:
Irais as well although his character would be Dick
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And you would be Timmy the dog. An intelligent dog granted. But still a dog.
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Dunno who'll take over at OT Tommy but I don't expect it's Kenny Dalglish. Nor do I expect to get all the answers from a warm and fuzzy PR piece in the Manchester Evening News!
Does Liverpool still have a Saturday Pink Echo?
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perhaps the writing is on the wall for Ferguson to go to Madrid?
He sold them Ronaldo because he knew his successor would never sell him to Madrid if he was the manager - it's all a cunning plan by Ferguson. He's being forced out by the Glazers - the first sign was when they shut down the Club's Oddbins account !
This mindless conjecture lark is easy !
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Liverpool's new MD
"I feel we are making huge progress. We have Rafa now, on a new five year deal, which will create a ten year tenure for our manager – in my opinion a key ingredient of success being a very long term relationship with your manager.
It was the first thing I was involved in and the key plank of a new plan and a new way forward, around a common sense of purpose and unity. We needed to make changes in our youth and Academy set up.
Before I arrived I did not know to what extent for the last ten years or so our Academy set-up had been so disconnected from our first team and our manager. We have changed that. I passionately believe that that is a key ingredient of our success on the field and it makes good business sense too, to invest heavily in your youth set-up.
But to do that you must make the first team the clear target for those young players – and you must get the whole club, in football terms, acting and thinking and preparing to a common technical plan under the ultimate leadership of your first team manager. We have that now."
he went on to say 'but secretly we want Rafa out and Dalglish in and the £20m contract we gave Rafa in March was just a smokescreen - unfortunately some Trotter bloke from America has sussed us.....'
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Another thing while I am off topic. I did not realise that an ability to use modern technology could be used to slate someone. The point I wished to make was there are plenty of tools out there for those who did not learn to spell while they were at school. I do not claim that anyone should have perfect spelling from memory only.
There are posters on here who bring to mind an old saying.(I think it was about an American footballer, possibly Terry Bradshaw - those of you who use Wikipedia to display your intelligence should be able to source it).
"He couldn't spell cat if you spotted him the c and the t"
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How do you know about the Oddbins account?
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Afternoon all.
Anyone get to read Irn_bru's comment before it got moderated. I would have like to have seen it. Don't know how I missed it seeing as I'm supposed to be here 24 hours a day.
To other matters, who's who in the next manager stakes. Robbo, maybe you could do a blog on it, just keep the Northern teams out of it for safety's sake.
Here's my take, in no particular order as to when it will happen...
United - The Special One. He wants it, he'd give his right arm for it and he is one of the only one's who has the charisma for it and is well liked by Fergie, who will definitely have a say. So long as he doesn't do a Jock Stein.
Chelsea - Whoever is flavour of the month at the time as Abramovich will do what all billionaires with too much money do, throw loads of it away at a new toy, only to get the newest one in 6 months time. Probably whoever wins next years World Cup. So definitely not Capello then!
Arsenal - Tough one to call as Arsene's hypnotic powers do not seem to be on the wane so he could be still there fooling everyone into what a God he is for a few years to come. When he eventually goes I'll guess that it will be a surprise, someone with a decent enough history at far off leagues. How about Martin Jol?
City - January will be Guardiaola. February probably Hiddink. March seems right for Scolari but April will remain managerless as the 2.5 billion offered to Fergie will have been laughed away.
Liverpool - No one. Rafa is there forever. Thankfully.
I suppose the only other team worth mentioning is Newcastle. The bookies would probably open a book on it if they could cut down the remaining Amazon to provide enough paper for the list. Anyone from Ant / Dec / Gazza / Jimmy 1 belly (he's slimmed down) / A return for KK / Andy Cole / Roy Keane / Tinky Winky or even Chris Houghton
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It's written on the wall
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Terry Bradshaw is a Pittsburg Steelers legend, 3 SuperBowls, he's currently listed at 66-1 as the next manager of LFC.
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Rotter did you Wiki that?
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No RBA, no wiki. I watch the games with some blokes here, one of whom is a Steelers fanatic. His basement is like a Steelers museum and Terry B is probably the main man in Steelers History, along with the Rooney family (now US ambassador to Ireland). Terry has overcome alcoholism and a few wives, is a great laugh on tele, a bit like Greavesie in that regard.
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(he could spell "cat" without a problem but would have fun showing you how he could screw it up)
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473. At 1:42pm on 17 Sep 2009, Ira_abu wrote:
450. At 10:37am on 17 Sep 2009, adampsb wrote:
Irais as well although his character would be Dick
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And you would be Timmy the dog. An intelligent dog granted. But still a dog.
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No we've already established that I would be Julian. If you can't be anything but insulting just go away.
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Adam, don't be so mean to Ira anu (ooh-va-voo), i think he just wants to be part of the gang, he wants to be excepted and admired. It'd make his day if Wise old Dr Zoots hurumphed one of his postings, or if Trotter gave him a rousing pat on the back for of his musings... he'd be over the moon. But they don't, and it hurts him. That or Gaz bullied him at school?
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He could be part of teh gang if he would post something interesting or on-topic, amusing or social but all he does is insult people (he doesn't even mention comedic content or licence fee like JDR and his mates). I think he may be that SimpleTruth09 (sorry You-Know-Who) in disguise.
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It couldn't have been me who bullied him. I left school at 16 when I discovered the delights of girls. I discoverd them in the girls changing rooms and was expelled.
He probably did go to school in Ireland though, so maybe he was a member of the Gary Glitter gang which might explain a few things.
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I was discharged in a girls changing room once... but now i'm just bragging!
Well if you did'nt bully him it leads me to my origimal theory, he's just an absolute goon...
(I don't mean it Irn_man, i'm just gutted i didn't get a nicknmae!)
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and now like a big eejit, i've typed nicknmae instead of nickname, put me down for a face omelette! Yikes...
(hmmmm, thought to self, next time compose my rant in WORD and F7 the hell out of it till i am safe from the scrutinous eyes of the Robbo5)
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Adebayor has officially copped a 3-game ban - Derby win for the Reds coming up
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all a bit personal, pointless and nasty - eh lads?
much better to use this un-moderated blog to talk footy
how about name your England squad of 22 to go to South Africa next summer
Keepers
1. James
2. Green
3. Foster
Defenders
4. Johnson
5. Terry
6. Ferdinand
7. Cole (A)
8. Brown
9. Lescott
10. Bridge
Midfield
11. Cole (J)
12. Gerrard
13. Lampard
14. Barry
15. Walcott
16. Lennon
17. Carrick
18. Beckham
Strikers
19. Rooney
20. Heskey
21. Defoe
22. Cole
closest to it gets an apology from Trotter in 5 years time ;o)
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(hmmmm, thought to self, next time compose my rant in WORD and F7 the hell out of it till i am safe from the scrutinous eyes of the Robbo5)
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But you're in the Robbo 5 (sounds like an espionage ring doesn't it)
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486. At 2:56pm on 17 Sep 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:
Adam, don't be so mean to Ira anu (ooh-va-voo), i think he just wants to be part of the gang, he wants to be excepted and admired. _______________________________________________________________________
I take exception to the mis-use of "excepted". I expect you meant to say accept.
The English education system never ceases to amaze me.
As for Zoot being Wise would that be Ernie or Dennis?
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Good idea Tommy -
As I can't have a goalie + 7 Gary Neville's, 7 Beckhams and 7 Rooney's managed by Fergie here is mine: -
Keepers
1. James
2. Green
3. Foster
Defenders
4. Neville G
5. Johnson
6. Terry
7. Ferdinand
8. Lescott
9. Brown
10 Cole A
11 Bridge
Midfielders
12 Beckham
13 Hargreaves
14 Lampard
15 Gerrard
16 Barry
17 Lennon
18 Milner
Strikers
19 Rooney
20 Heskey
21 Defoe
22 Walcott
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Would like to squeeze Owen in if Walcott not fit though
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Ira_abu wrote
I take exception to the mis-use of "excepted". I expect you meant to say accept.
The English education system never ceases to amaze me.
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Do you have some sort of ant-English people axe to grind or something. Racism isn't funny so stop criticising RBA's grammar and do something constructive like naming the England team or commenting on Adebayors 3 match ban.
Saddo
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you not rate Joe Cole, adam?
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Sorry Ira, can you suggest a good spell checker maybe?
And good comment, "take exception"... i see what you've done thier. Very coy.
I see Zoots is Ernie for sure, i am yet to read one of his plays, but i hear very good things about them...
"Bring me sunshine in your smile"
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500 posts!! Holy cow.
We need Andre now to tell us the percentages of what they were about.
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