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A fine kerfuffle (if that's the right word) on Today this morning about - you guessed it - Twitter. Read Alex Hudson's excellent feature about it on the Today site. And what do you think? Are there things that you should be allowed to dismiss out of hand? Is social media phenonemon Twitter one of them?

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  • Comment number 9. Posted by lordBeddGelert

    on 10 Sept 2009 19:11

    Boilerplated - You are 1000% correct - just as it is inaccurate to refer to a generic 'cashpoint' as the trademark on Cashpoint is owned by Lloyds Banking Group. And likewise JCB for diggers and Portakabin for temporary office buildings. Just try using those out of context, and wait for the lawyers letters to arrive !!!

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  • Comment number 8. Posted by TV Licence fee payer against BBC censorship

    on 9 Sept 2009 09:09

    #7. At 9:10pm on 07 Sep 2009, cping500 wrote:

    "I think what boilerplated means we have to wait for the latest edition of the OED allow us to use the word in 'common speech'."

    No "cping500", I mean what I said, there doesn't need to be any additional interpretation, it's a simple statement of fact, Common usage of a word doesn't make the use of the word correct, it makes no difference if the word is contained within the OED or not - for example it would be wrong to describe the action of using a Dyson vacuum cleaner as "Hoovering" the carpet, one would be vacuuming the carpet, just as one can micro-blog without using Twitter, one can access downloadable MP3 files (either manually or via a download manager) without having to use an iPod and thus a "Podcast".

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  • Comment number 7. Posted by cping500

    on 7 Sept 2009 20:10

    I think what boilerplated means we have to wait for the latest edition of the OED allow us to use the word in 'common speech'. However I sure s/he will continue to twitter away about this.

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  • Comment number 6. Posted by TV Licence fee payer against BBC censorship

    on 4 Sept 2009 10:26

    #5. At 09:44am on 04 Sep 2009, steve_bowbrick wrote:

    "Essentially, although Twitter is self-evidently a commercial company, its service has taken on something of the character of infrastructure. This often happens on the Internet - Google is the other obvious example - and the increased rate of change in communications technology makes it likely it'll happen more often."

    Steve, the point is, the BBC should not be pushing one commercial website down it's readers/listeners/viewers (metaphorical) throats, it's just as wrong to keep mentioning "Twitter" as it would be "Google" to describe an action to take or taken, whilst I as an individual might well suggest that someone searched Google for the "Meaning of Life" someone from the BBC should be brand neutral, just saying that someone used a search engine to find the "Meaning of Life". If you see what I mean?

    Common usage of a word doesn't make the use of the word correct.

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  • Comment number 5. Posted by Steve Bowbrick

    on 4 Sept 2009 08:44

    aoakley You make an interesting point. It's been discussed here and elsewhere before (here, for instance). Essentially, although Twitter is self-evidently a commercial company, its service has taken on something of the character of infrastructure. This often happens on the Internet - Google is the other obvious example - and the increased rate of change in communications technology makes it likely it'll happen more often.

    But it's happened before in earlier stages of media evolution too. It's not an exact parallel but think of the way Mr Marconi's wireless standard became generalised into an entire global industry in the 1920s. The BBC's role in the success or otherwise of commercial companies was as big an issue then as it is now.

    In fact, in its early days, Friends Reunited had something of this character - there were dozens of places to reconnect with old school friends but FR became the default by virtue of its scale. And the fact that FR has lost its dominance is probably a useful reminder that Internet success can be fleeting and that these things come in waves.

    And it's probably worth noting that - as far as I know - FR isn't in financial trouble. It just didn't yield the huge return on its purchase price that ITV had hoped for.

    Steve Bowbrick, editor, Radio 4 blog

  • Comment number 4. Posted by Andrew Oakley

    on 4 Sept 2009 04:11

    Twitter is a commercial site, one of many blogging and social network services. The BBC should not be promoting one commerical site over others, which it is clearly doing with Twitter.

    Perhaps if the BBC had spent as much time promoting a British-owned social networking site, Friends Reunited, as it has promoting Twitter, ITV would be in less financial trouble than it is today.

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  • Comment number 3. Posted by Lawrence Jones

    on 3 Sept 2009 19:56

    None of the ‘Today’ team – presenters, producers, editors, assistant editors, deputy editors ever supported the ‘Today’ messageboards either. The same applied to the Desert Island Discs team.

    There used to be an R4 messageboard entitled ‘Altruists’ Alert’. Contributors would post questions relating to the world of radio. There wasn’t one occasion when a member of the Radio 4 staff helped out with an answer. Clearly few people at R4 actually believe the slogan: ‘Radio 4 curious minds’.

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  • Comment number 2. Posted by stewartroad

    on 3 Sept 2009 15:09

    Good for John Humphrys

    I run a business without a mobile (its only for emergencies like when my wife has forgotten her bank pin), can't text and certainly wouldn't ever want to twitter, or is it tweeter. That's for the birds.

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  • Comment number 1. Posted by TV Licence fee payer against BBC censorship

    on 3 Sept 2009 13:17

    Talk about the pot calling the kettle black - Twits [1] calling those who don't, 'Twits'...

    As I said Here, I suspect that Mr Humphrys wise words about Twitter and those who Tweet [2] have cause him to rise in many peoples opinions, certainly has mine!

    [1] "Twits": those who use Twitter
    [2] "Tweet": The act of posting a comment to Twitter

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