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Niall Ferguson: Reith Lecture pt.4 - Civil and Uncivil Societies

Tuesday 10 July 2012, 09:36

Richard Fenton-Smith Richard Fenton-Smith

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Editor's note: In the Reith Lecture this week, Niall Ferguson talked about Civil and Uncivil Societies . The programme is available to listen to online or to download and keep - PMcD

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""Over the past 50 years governments have encroached too far on the realm of civil society," says Niall Ferguson in his fourth and final Reith Lecture, titled Civil and Uncivil Societies .

Society, he says, would benefit from more private initiative and less dependence on the state. Basically, we can do better by doing it for ourselves.

Education, in particular, is one field Prof Ferguson believes could benefit from a more hands-off approach from the state.

"If there is one educational policy I should like to see adopted in the UK, it would be a policy that aimed to increase significantly the number of private schools," he declares.

It doesn't escape Prof Ferguson that this is the kind of statement which the Left reflexively denounce as elitist - especially, he says, privately educated liberals. There are conservatives, too, who see private schools as the cause of inequality, not a solution.

Well, says Niall Ferguson, they are utterly wrong.

For about a hundred years, he says, there's no doubt the expansion of state education was a good thing, because there was insufficient provision - but we need to recognise the limits of public monopolies like this.

The current state education system, says Ferguson, is a typical monopoly. Its quality has declined over the years because of a lack of competition and the creeping power of vested producer interests - in this case, the government and teaching unions.

And that's where the state education system could benefit by emulating the private school sector - namely with increased independence and competition.

The growth of the Academy system in England and Wales - introduced by the previous Labour government and expanded with zeal by the current coalition - as well as the advent of Free Schools, says Ferguson, are a step in the right direction. These are schools autonomous from the state, in the hands of teachers and parents who understand the needs of their students better than a Whitehall bureaucrat.

Critics argue this is fine if you're in a middle-class neighbourhood, where the local parents have the time and social capital to make a Free School work, but what about those in poorer neighbourhoods?

What these critics seem to forget, says Prof Ferguson, is that children from deprived areas have already been failed. State education standards have suffered greatly as a result of rampant grade inflation to exaggerate performance and conceal decline.

"Are we really helping the poor by trapping them in rubbish schools?" Ferguson asks.

He points to the success of schools such as Mossbourne Academy in Hackney, one of London's most deprived boroughs. Previously condemned as a failing school, this year, ten Mossbourne students were offered places at Cambridge University.

Prof Ferguson makes it clear that he is not arguing for private schools over state schools, but a greater mix which will force all schools to raise their game.

"The biggest threat," he says "is complacency... thinking we're fine... that our schools are great."

If the education revolution of the 20th Century was that basic education became available for most people in democracies - the education revolution of the 21st Century, says Ferguson, should be that good education will become available for an increasing proportion of children.

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    Comment number 1.

    Oh how the BBC indulges right wing views. Niall Ferguson could not answer questions which challenge his elitist views. And Sue Lawley tiptoes around him. The contributers from the audience should be given more time to challenge these reactionary views, otherwise what is the point of an audience. BBC balanced? Don't make me laugh.

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    Comment number 2.

    I have worked as a teacher and with teachers as a psychologist for 40 years.Teachers in the state schools have never once said to me that they find it difficult to teach the able,motivated pupils.If we have to have private schools then at least they could justify their charitable status by offering bursaries to those pupils who find it difficult to learn in large state schools with large classes and poor resources,those with learning difficulties and/or difficult behaviour.

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    Comment number 3.

    Interesting that both the audience and Sue Lawley went rather quiet when Niall Ferguson pointed out that both Civil Rights and Stonewall were successful because of popular associations and that neither of these hugely influential movements were State initiatives.

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    Comment number 4.

    I really did feel this was one where the audience knew more about the subject, than the speaker. John Curtice's intervention seemed to call into question Ferguson's use of data (not for the first time). As with much of Niall Ferguson's work, there are some interesting ideas, condescendingly explained and overwhelmed by his ego.

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    Comment number 5.

    Well said Mr Ferguson. Those of a different view to yours in the audience failed to challenge you on the principle issue of educational achievement as the facts all show that state intervention on a large scale results in inefficiency or failure. Knowing this, the dissenters to your view then changed the debate to the social achievements of a school. These may happily occur but also occur in the private school. In a private school however, they do not displace the principle objective of a fine education but add to it.

    Please don't be deflected from your purpose.

 

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