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Listed below are comments made by gordonbcross between Friday, 20th March 2009 and Friday, 6th November 2009.

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'Senseless tragedy'? 11:45pm on 06 Nov 2009 colonelartist

my point is that you shouldn't 'still' submit to your prophet because

Muhammad according to world standards today was

a paedophile,

Pedophilia is the primary or exclusive sexual attraction by adults to prepubescent youths

see reasoning below

Aisha stayed in her parents' home for several years until she joined Muhammad and the marriage was consummated. Most of the sources indicate that she was nine years old at the time, with the single exception of al-Tabari, who records that she was ten.

a misogynist

misogynistic - hating women in particular

see reasoning below

the basic rights given to men through Mohammed and The Koran, which include: the right to multiple wives and concubines; the right to beat and rape one's wife if she refuses to submit to sex; the right to terminate a marriage at any time without legal process; the right to all children and property from the marriage if divorced; the right to bring one's wife to court for suspected adultery; and, if she is found guilty, the right to bury her in the ground up to her waist and stone here to death (as was done in at least four cases in Iran in the last seven years). These same rights do not extend to women in regards to their husbands.

Islam may have brought some structure to barbarism in the saudi peninsular 1400 years ago...

but then again we were burning witches in the middle ages and our monarchs marrying minors...

we've moved on since then

when will islam?
'Senseless tragedy'? 10:51pm on 06 Nov 2009 so colenelartist, you say

'Muslims are simply fighting against oppression'

thankyou for your opinion, now lets look at the dictionary definition of oppression

'Oppression is the negative outcome experienced by people targeted by the cruel exercise of power in a society or social group. It is particularly closely associated with nationalism and derived social systems, wherein identity is built by antagonism to the other. The term itself derives from the idea of being "weighted down." '

now islam is entirely based on the concept of submission see definition of islam below

'A monotheistic religion characterized by the acceptance of the doctrine of submission to God and to Muhammad as the chief and last prophet of God.'

definition of submission below

'The act of submitting to the power of another: "Oppression that cannot be overcome does not give rise to revolt but to submission"'

So following the logic does that mean that islam is oppression that cannot be overcome?

so if muslims want to win their fight against oppression can I humbly propose that they become apostate

'a person who abandons his religion'

in which case they will win their fight? as will we all?

the west does not want to oppress islam, the religion itself oppresses those within it

I suggest for world peace, give it up followers of Islam, Apostate!
'Senseless tragedy'? 9:38pm on 06 Nov 2009 lets start with a fact

'Allah on 480 occasions in the Holy Koran extols Muslims to wage jihad'

that is that islam should wage holy war on non muslims,

so for the sake of the debate in relation to the fort hood slaughter lets take a section from a bbc article today (I cut and paste one para below)

Kamran Memon of the organisation Muslims For a Safe America says the subject splits America's Muslim community down the middle.
"Those at one end of the spectrum say we should have nothing to do with the US armed forces as they are involved in wars with our fellow Muslims abroad," he told the BBC

could you imagine a report in the uk in the second world war that stated

A. German/(Nazi?) of the organisation Germans/(Nazis?) For a Safe UK says the subject splits the UK German(Nazi?) community down the middle.
"Those at one end of the spectrum say we should have nothing to do with the UK armed forces as they are involved in wars with our fellow Germans(Nazi's) abroad," he told the BBC

Islam is at war with non muslims,

lets wake up before its too late!

I am a critic of all propaganda bbc, but when its in favour of the self declared enemy then aren't you assisting the suicide of our so called western democracy?
Making arguments on race 8:01pm on 19 Apr 2009 Its very interesting to me that the bbc try to focus the debate on racism amongst the countries who actually have been at the forefront of ensuring racism becomes a thing of the past .... to attempt to coin a phrase... 'is it cos we is racist' to try and parody the humour of Sacha-Baron Cohen ...

bbc why don't your journos actually go to places where racism still means, massive prejudice and life/death decisions in large numbers... Middle East, Africa, India, China... instead of this pathetic focus on the dying embers of 'white mans guilt'... lets remind the world once again of the UK's (and its dominions at the time) contribution to slavery... WE ABOLISHED IT!

Nick your looking very well on life down under, must be a great trip? ... its a great place... why don't you try going somewhere where there are real race issues if this is the debate you want us to have?

Once again bbc, your tired old liberalism and lazy pseudo journalism will mean if you are not careful your considerable weight in world affairs will shift away from you as sure as ....... a fat and self congratulatory body loses the will to run and to fight.......
Eurocrash: how Latvia's boom turned to bust (make that "slump") 8:48pm on 20 Mar 2009 hi paul, I'm a brit in budapest. Around 2 weeks ago we had a bbc guy in our central food market delivering in dulcet tones the impending doom surrounding us all in east europe...

now I understand you've got to sell your stories, but please the man in pest showed and empty market and talked in a hushed voice of the 4 horsemen of the apocolypse... very dramatic, are there going to be oscars for news reporting soon?

Anyway, I shop there everyday, its always packed! I think he must have turned up there at 6am on a public holiday and bribed the security to let him in?

I am so sorry that the bbc seem incapable of employing people who can get to the truth of the stories they are employed to investigate...

so let me try and help a little for anyone who wants to read it... 20 years ago, evrything behind the iron curtain was an economic basket case, what these people have achieved is nothing short of an economic miracle, now the rest of the world catches a cold and east europe gets written off... utter rubbish,

these guys can survive on their grandmas garden produce and sell sand to the arabs... how do you think they survived communism for 40 years! all government economic data in these regions should be read with a huge guffaw...

as over 50% of the economy is black and any politician worth his salt is an extremely wealthy man having bought, stolen or bribed all he owns at bottom dollar from the vast state sell offs post 1989...

how about reporting the facts beeb journos, instead of just following 'the storyboard' that has been set for you, by the guys who treat news as a rolling story

publish this and I will goulash my hat and eat it, perhaps your budapest journo could come back and film me doing it in a packed market hall... if he does perhaps I can also bake a humble pie and we can share it together!

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