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Listed below are comments made by MagicKirin between Tuesday, 24th November 2009 (13 Hours Ago) and Tuesday, 24th November 2009 (8 Hours Ago) .

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Afghanistan troops: Decision time for Obama 9:59pm on 24 Nov 2009 ref #29Philly-Mom wrote:
14. MagicKirin -
"He is far more polarizing than Bush was at this point in his Presidency."
Well, that's because Bush took long vacations and occasional PR moments during his first few months. Then 9/11 happened and we were united in anger and shock.

(Obama has taken more recreation time than Bush already)

Obama has been polarizing because he's acting and calling congress into action in the midst of difficult domestic and international times.

(dithering apologizing and leaving the healthcare debate in the hands of Pelosi and Reid)

There are no perfect answers.
Any decision will please some and piss people off others... even within the Democratic Party.

But, the point of contention regarding Afghanistan is not THAT we should end it, but HOW we should end it. So, as long as the end is in sight there will be a point on which we might *gasp* all agree. Shocking, isn't it?

(end of the terrorist threat is the goal, why is that so difficult to understand?)
State dinner: the hottest ticket in town 9:57pm on 24 Nov 2009 ref #69

Most cowboys work most cos shakedown
State dinner: the hottest ticket in town 6:31pm on 24 Nov 2009 ref #58

sorry I put the U.S on the high moral ground especially against entities like the U.N. As far as the Middle East, if the U.S stop being ivolved all the restraints would be off Israel and they could respond with justfied force instead of the restrained actions they take.

They could have arrested terrorist supporter George Galloway and could blocked Richard Falk and his bogus investigation.
Afghanistan troops: Decision time for Obama 6:26pm on 24 Nov 2009 ref #9
This is definitely not the can of change I could believe in. President Obama seems to be more interested in satisfying the warmongering tendencies of the right wing than satisfying the expectations of those that put him in office, and he is going to pay for it next year and in 2012. Most of us will not vote for Sarah or whomever the GOP decides to annoint, but many of us may decide to sit it out, which will be just as bad as voting for a W clone.

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The people who put Obama in were young voters and independents. Your vote and mine (in most cases) is a given.

Obama will lose because he is catering to the extreme left far too much. He ran as a centrist and a uniter.

He is far more polarizing than Bush was at this point in his Presidency.

as far as Palin, Dems see her as a more viable canidate than Repubs do. But the vitrol is amazing; Martha Stewart looked like an idiot with her quotes of her being dangerous.
Afghanistan troops: Decision time for Obama 6:07pm on 24 Nov 2009 ghostofsichuan wrote:
You can always count on the Republicans to undermine the country. This is a war started by Bush/Cheney and the Republicans. The President sees the implications for India and China and Pakistan. Pakistan is unstable and any actions taken could have negative results. The American public is not supportive of a long event. The Republicans whose mantra has always been to support the president in times of war have obviously changed their minds. But Republicans are simply the street-walkers for banks and big business.
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Actually it's group like move on and the finacier George Soros who undermine the country. Obam,a has taken far too long despite the obamphiles claiming it was thoughtful analysis.

The D3ems will okk for any excuse to tax, how about instead they pay for their own healthcare instead of having the tax payers do it?
State dinner: the hottest ticket in town 5:29pm on 24 Nov 2009 ref #47
David Murrell wrote:
Magic – Wow the great appeaser lie gets rolled out again. If anyone questions the opinion of the neo-con hawks and their leashed foreign allies, the questioner would have rolled over and let Hitler walk all over them. Sorry it does not matter how often this pap argument is rolled out it remains as much crud as the first time.

Unlike some I don’t take my view of the world from a single news source, especially one owned by an Australian Oligarch. I find it eases my mind to think more for myself than to take all my political views from Fox News.

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What lie? Neville chamberlen did appease Hilter and than Ramsey McDonnel did the same to the Arab nations.

I get my news from several sources but in the U.S media Fox and ABC News are the only ones who have proven not to be in the tank for Obama
State dinner: the hottest ticket in town 4:58pm on 24 Nov 2009 ref #38
The biggest difference between Lula, Chavez and Morales is not substance but style. Lula is pursuing the same socialist objectives, and is achieving them at a very rapid pace, while Chavez wastes his time engaged in Bush-style name calling to pursue his "Bolivarian" dreams.

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I don't believe that Brazil has stolen foriegn companies assets like Chavez has done with oil companies, telcomunications and Hilton hotels or punitivly taxed one ethnic group and given special privlidges to his own the way Morales has.
State dinner: the hottest ticket in town 4:56pm on 24 Nov 2009 ref #31

#16 Was_Guillaume_really_in_Egypt

Firstly, it sends a message to Pakistan that US aid is not unconditional - the US could switch attention to India if Pakistan made a mess of things.

Shouldn't the US be sending the same message to Israel?

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The Obama administration has acted shamefully to one of our best allies but pressuring Israel to stop building settlements on their land.
State dinner: the hottest ticket in town 4:32pm on 24 Nov 2009 ref #27

David Murrell wrote:
Magic – To be accurate Israel has said that they caught Iran red handed, Iran didn’t reacted in any way, meaning that Israel was probably correct. The ship in question was not Iranian, did not come from Iran was not heading to Israel, we only have Israel’s say so that who was really behind the cargo, what that cargo was and where the final destination was going to be. Not really that red handed.

(Iran did react they lied and said there were no arms)

Also since the arms never got near to the terrorists Israel said was going to get them I am not sure how they fit the criteria of ‘victim’, if anything their pro-active action prevented them from becoming victims.

(We don't know how many shipments got through but Hezbollah is rearming and Iran is their patron and master)
Just as I question whether Israel is always the victim some would like to make out, I also question whether Iran is really the bondesque villain state some like to paint it. Yes its leadership are to Western eyes pretty repellent and I accept that a very close eye needs to be kept on it, I am just not convinced it is the imminent threat it is made out to be. Possibly after the spin regarding the threat to the West used against Iraq, I have become cynical about listening to similar warnings, from the same people, about Iran.

(Would you have been cynical about the threat from Hitler?)
State dinner: the hottest ticket in town 4:28pm on 24 Nov 2009 ref #29
, Lord Nathan wrote:
Name ONE country attacked or invaded by Iran in the past two centuries

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Through their terrorist proxies: Israel and Iraq

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