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Listed below are comments made by TrueToo between Monday, 27th July 2009 and Friday, 27th November 2009.

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Those emails from the Climatic Research Unit 2:27pm on 27 Nov 2009 Crumbs, the carpet is looking quite bulky with everything you've swept under it.

Anyway, thanks for responding.
Top tips for green houses 06:27am on 21 Nov 2009 Hi David Gregory,

I inadvertently posted the following comment on one of your September blogs, 'Walking on Custard' so I thought I'd put it here where you can see it:

This is Bryan from the Biased BBC site, posting this under my BBC user name. I recall we had a number of conversations on that site, some of them on global warming. I appreciated your polite style of debate, often in the face of much antagonism from the unbelievers. I am also an unbeliever, but I hope that I refrained from attacking you as violently as some of the others.

Anyway, my sudden appearance on your blog has to do with the extraordinary and inadvertent revelations from climate change scientists themselves through hacked e-mails of their intention to hoodwink the public by deleting and distorting information. I thought you might be interested in this comprehensive and informative blog on the issue by 'DB':

http://biased-bbc.blogspot.com/2009/11/hadley-hacked.html#comments

Regards,

TrueToo.
Walking on custard 8:33pm on 20 Nov 2009 Good evening David Gregory,

This is Bryan from the Biased BBC site, posting this under my BBC user name. I recall we had a number of conversations on that site, some of them on global warming. I appreciated your polite style of debate, often in the face of much antagonism from the unbelievers. I am also an unbeliever, but I hope that I refrained from attacking you as violently as some of the others.

Anyway, my sudden appearance on your blog has to do with the extraordinary and inadvertent revelations from climate change scientists themselves through hacked e-mails of their intention to hoodwink the public by deleting and distorting information. I thought you might be interested in this comprehensive and informative blog on the issue by 'DB':

http://biased-bbc.blogspot.com/2009/11/hadley-hacked.html#comments

Regards,

TrueToo.
What will you be doing Sunday morning? 00:30am on 08 Oct 2009 Steve Bowbrick, you said:

"....but one thing I've noticed is that none of you answered my questions..."

I thought I made a direct attempt to answer them in comment 13. So have others in their comments. Let me clarify my position:

I don't think anybody has an automatic right to be published on the BBC or any other media and the BBC is certainly under no obligation to publish chat. Public debate on the news, however, is legitimate. The BBC entered the blogging world because it realised it was the only way to go in order to remain relevant in an IT world. I have followed various BBC forums such as 'Have Your Say' and 'World Have your Say' for a number of years and have seen the BBC make these forums more open and user friendly and then retreat in apprehension at the wave of popular opinion that does not coincide with the BBC world view and subsequently limit that opinion and shut down the debate.

When you closed the discussion boards many people saw this as just more of the same stifling of off-message opinion.

BBC journalists should stop campaigning for their pet left-wing causes and concentrate on journalism. Feedback from the public can only help in steering you back to the job you should have been doing in the first place. Please take it seriously.
What will you be doing Sunday morning? 9:06pm on 06 Oct 2009 I don't think the BBC is obliged to facilitate chat among license-payers and I regard the moderators on some blogs as way too lenient, e.g. on Justin Webb's blog from America (no longer functioning) some posters split off and formed a group within a group. If they found the main topic boring or enraging or whatever they would click on an old dead thread and chat there in comfort and relative seclusion about anything under the sun. The moderators evidently had no problem with this, perhaps since the group was comprised exclusively of typical tunnel-visioned lefties, some of them among the more reprehensible I've encountered on the Internet.

So yes, you have a point. Problem is, if comments were restricted to the programmes and the websites, as you suggest, the BBC would still cheerfully ignore all feedback and carry on in its inimitable fashion regardless. The BBC claims to be interested in "citizen journalism" and claims to want to facilitate it. In truth, it is scared to death of it because it plays havoc with the BBC's slick propaganda and distortion of the news.
Too European? 8:17pm on 28 Jul 2009 458. David_Cunard wrote:

#445. TrueToo: "Re the history of Palestine, people can point to as many maps as they like, but a named area does not a country make."

Then what does?

For a start, a capital, a currency, a leader, a government - you know, little things like that. If the Romans wanted to name one of their conquered provinces Palestina or whatever, how is that relevant to a Palestinian state?

455. dceilar,

Simply put, you are lying when you talk about a deliberate IDF policy to maximise civilian deaths. That's the Palestinian terrorists' style. You are obviously seriously mixed up.
Too European? 6:33pm on 28 Jul 2009 426. Gary_A_Hill,

Thanks for that. I'm quite prepared to debate without insult but at times I find myself responding in kind. The sneering is pointless and childish but is rife throughout the Internet, much like a virus. If I were moderating this blog I'd make a simple rule: If you must sneer, at least accompany your sneering with a debatable point or two so that people can respond with something more than a sneer in return.

Re the history of Palestine, people can point to as many maps as they like, but a named area does not a country make. The post by Isenhorn at no. 411 puts it in a nutshell.
Too European? 10:33am on 28 Jul 2009 374. dceilar,

I take nothing you write at face value. But even if Begin and Rabin did say that, thank goodness sanity prevailed and Israel went ahead with the pre-emptive strike. The Egyptians would never have attacked? What do you imagine happened in '48 and '73?

376. Svetlana wrote:

I have seldom seen such a fantastical reworking of British foreign policy during the 20th century as TT treats us to this morning.

Do explain and point out where what I have said is inaccurate and why. If you have nothing to contribute, why comment?

377. KhassimAManyoukeh,

Yes, I appreciate your reasonable and civil tone on this forum. I have no explanation for the Jew who turns against Israel, except to note that it's not unusual to find people turning against their own. They have their reasons for doing so. Unfortunately they don't seem to realise the company they are in.

I have accessed a number of links from Hesiodos, but not lately. They should be treated with extreme caution. I also find myself with very little time lately.
Too European? 07:37am on 28 Jul 2009 340. zoyla_rip_2000,

Like so many on this blog you are evidently unable to debate a point or present a logical argument, so you put your nose in the air and take refuge in pompous dismissal of any facts you don't like. You are quite transparent.

Simon21's no. 333 is his usual mix of inaccuracies, distortions and wishful thinking. He's still flogging his dead horses, i.e. the idea that anti-Semitism is against Arabs. It isn't, and that's why nobody knows what he is on about when he flogs that horse. And the idea that Israel was somehow at the centre of a conspiracy to grab Arab oil is a fantasy of truly staggering proportions. Yes, France had previously assisted Israel but on June 2nd 1967, Charles de Gaulle declared an arms embargo against Israel. Britain, of course, had sided with the Arabs against the Jews from long before 1948, and British officers had led Jordanian forces during Israel's war of Independence. Britain was heavily involved in oil exploitation in countries like Iraq.

There's no end to the historical revisionism Simon21 and crew will come up with on this blog.

342. Gary_A_Hill,

I recall that Simon21 plucked that particular misconception out of thin air, was delighted with it and has been running with it ever since, despite all evidence to the contrary.

353. David_Cunard wrote:

- just scroll on down. You're not obliged to read every word.

Well, quite. As an example, I don't read every word you write with rapt attention. You were making some point the other day about America, Britain and the Holocaust and were most insulted, and insulting, later when I didn't immediately respond. I was unclear, and still am, as to your assertion. Do try to be a little less pompous.

359. zoyla_rip_2000,

Seanspa sneers rather than jokes, along with a number of others here. It doesn't surprise me that you can't tell the difference.
Too European? 11:00pm on 27 Jul 2009 322. dceilar wrote:

You can try to distort and twist history as much as you like but you can't change the historical record. It's there for anyone who wants to look at it. Egypt's closing of the Straits of Tiran was an act of war, along with massing troops and tanks in the Sinai, hysterically calling for the annihilation of Israel and sending terrorists in to murder Israeli civilians - which Egypt and other Arab countries had been doing since the creation of Israel. If any country but Israel had been on the receiving end of these combined actions nobody would have doubted that country had the right to strike first and strike hard. Wiping virtually the entire Egyptian air force out on the ground was a brilliant and highly effective move. It not only almost guaranteed Israel's victory there and then but saved lives on both sides through avoiding a long war.

Israel was not attacking Egypt prior to '56 and '67. Gaza was attacking Israel, and had been for years prior to Cast Lead. Try to stick to facts, not your fantasy.

Your last paragraph is even more complete rubbish than the one preceding it, and typical of your style.

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