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Listed below are comments made by 1welshbloke between Wednesday, 20th August 2008 and Wednesday, 20th August 2008.

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A tactical masterpiece 02:35am on 20 Aug 2008 Dear BBC - could I suggest that this entire thread is pulled - so many posts have been removed that the debate is meaningless.
A tactical masterpiece 02:14am on 20 Aug 2008 #233 no PEDs help when they've left the system in the sense of would I run faster if they are still in my system

What PEDs do is enable you to train longer and recover faster (in the main).

Anyway - my argument is not that Ohuruogo IS a drugs cheat - clearly there is no evidence to suggest that this definately is the case. My view is that doubts will always exist because of the missed drugs tests.

As for me posting about IQ and so forth, that was in response to another poster and is in no way meant to say "look at my IQ and qualifications - I must be right".

Just that I feel my view is a justfied one. I can see why people can be perfectly happy that her win is not in any way tainted. For me it is. Its not because I have any evidence she is a drugs cheat, but because the suspicion that she may have been is increased.

Its a bit like the Flo-Jo argument isn't it? Or going further back, Kratochvilova, or Marita Koch even. The level of suspicion is higher even though we don't have evidence. Does that make sense?
A tactical masterpiece 02:05am on 20 Aug 2008 #234 - well you clearly can't do probability then!
A tactical masterpiece 02:03am on 20 Aug 2008 #231

I never said you did PURELY on spelling but you have criticised people about spelling.

As for mispresenting

Here is your post from #163 which I;ve annotated with my post.

"You start your post with congratulations."

Congratulations Christine Ohuruogu on a brilliant and, for some of us, unexpected success. Fantastic result and well deserved.

"You then make remarks about those of us who feel Ohuruogo's medal is tainted. Ill informed and uneducated? On what basis? Cos we don't agree with you?"

The Internet has provided a platform for everyone to voice a view, including people with sincerely held but grossly uninformed opinions - people who are in possession of no facts and little education, just hunches and prejudices - people who neither read nor research thoroughly (lest their prejudices prove false). Sad, but that's the price of free speech.
The irony is that if the BOA had refused Christine Ohuruogu's apeal against her ban it would have all come out in court and she would have won, and not on a technicality. Those who imply directly or indirectly publicly that she is or has been using illegal means to enhance her performance would be at risk of legal action. The BBC might take a dim view too.
The BOA have more or less admitted that their system was faulty, and Christine Ohuruogu wasn't the only athlete to unintentionally fall foul of it. End of story in the real world. However, in the fantasies of people for whom reality is too boring obviously it will keep rumbling on.

"And then you finish by suggesting that the only reason Sanya Richards is faster than Ohuruogo is because she is taking something."

And as far as Sanya Richards comments are concerned I think they're just sour grapes. After all her personal best is a second faster than Christine Ohuruogu's, which is considerable over 400 metres, so what's she been taking?

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There - I think that puts that one to bed don't you?
A tactical masterpiece 01:57am on 20 Aug 2008 #229 - no she is not a drugs cheat. she missed three tests.
A tactical masterpiece 01:57am on 20 Aug 2008 Yes I could understand 100 athletes missing one.

I mean - if there is a 1 in 100 chance of missing a test and there are 10,000 athletes across all sports then yes 100 athletes missing one test is understandable.

But if that is the case then it would mean there is a one in a million chance of missing three tests.

(All things being equal of course).
A tactical masterpiece 01:47am on 20 Aug 2008 oh this is pathetic.

for me it is not undertandable that she can miss three drugs tests.

hence I am entitled to my opinion.
A tactical masterpiece 01:41am on 20 Aug 2008 Post 222 - if you make fun of people purely cos of their spelling what do you expect?
A tactical masterpiece 01:40am on 20 Aug 2008 post 218

pvandck - you criticise people for not backing up their posts. Well I asked you how did i misrepresent your post. You have declined so far to show that.

As for the facts....

Fact - she missed three drugs tests

Fact - there are steriods that clear the system in 7 days.

Read my posts and you might find that I have stated time and time again that I think she is clean. However I state that because of her actions in missing three tests I feel that doubts exist. I state this in light of the letter from Victor Conte.

Now if you have an issue with that, and you clearly do, then stop doing yourself a disservice by making your petty and snide remarks about intellect just because we don't all agree with you.

And if you do want an argument about intellect feel free. I hardly think an MA, BSc, 4 A levels at grade A, 11 O Levels and an IQ of 152 make me the unintelligent person you keep harping on about.

Yours may well be higher. Good for you. But please!!!!

We can agree to disagree and I am happy to do that. You on the other hand seem to think that unless anyone agrees with you they are ignorant etc.
A tactical masterpiece 01:10am on 20 Aug 2008 Post 211

I admire you for having the gall to make fun of other posters despite your more than shabby grammar!

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