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Listed below are comments made by MangoChutneyUKOK between Tuesday, 1st December 2009 (22 Hours Ago) and Tuesday, 1st December 2009 (9 Hours Ago) .

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Copenhagen Countdown: 10 days 9:28pm on 01 Dec 2009 @Jack_Hughes_NZ #421

The powers that be will probably do an Ireland and make them vote again until we give the right answer

;)
Copenhagen Countdown: 10 days 8:30pm on 01 Dec 2009 it also seems Monckton isn't going to let those involved get away with iy, he is bringing charges against those involved:

http://pathstoknowledge.wordpress.com/2009/12/01/too-late-for-resignations-in-climategate-as-requests-for-charages-are-being-filed/

Lord Monckton of Brenchley joins The Corbett Report once again to discuss the report that he has filed jointly with Professor Fred Singer against the scientists connected to the ongoing climategate scandal. We discuss the basis of the report, what is likely to happen from this point, a timeframe for the possible criminal investigation stemming from this report and how people can stay up to date with this issue.
Copenhagen Countdown: 10 days 8:17pm on 01 Dec 2009 @PAWB46 #403

Apparently, Jones is stepping down temporarily pending an investigation, and not before time, but the investigation is bound to find him innocent of any wrong doings, isn't it?
Copenhagen Countdown: 10 days 8:11pm on 01 Dec 2009 anybody who still thinks ClimateGate is a storm in a teacup, read this:

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-fraud-is-everywhere-suny-albany-and-queens-university-belfast-join-climategate-pjm-exclusive/

the article is written by a climate scientist who's work was pushed out by The Team

In 2007, I published a peer-reviewed paper alleging that some important research relied upon by the IPCC (for the treatment of urbanization effects) was fraudulent. The emails show that Tom Wigley — one of the most oft-cited climatologists and an extreme warming advocate — thought my paper was valid. They also show that Phil Jones, the head of the Climatic Research Unit, tried to convince the journal editor not to publish my paper.

Perhaps this is the confirmation the BBC are looking for, before they "break" this story?
Copenhagen Countdown: 10 days 1:59pm on 01 Dec 2009 if the hole in the ozone layer is curing global warming, should we ban the ban on CFC's?

>;-)
There's a wind farm coming to a place near you 1:17pm on 01 Dec 2009 Here's a little article i picked up from a magazine on building:

Research carried out for engineer forecasts that UK energy generating capacity will fall by half to 40GW by 2023

The widespread adoption of wind power could undermine efforts to generate energy in the UK, research commissioned by Parsons Brinckerhoff has revealed.

The report forecasts that overall the country’s energy generating capacity will fall to half its current value from 80GW to 40GW by 2023 and that about 68GW of electricity will be needed by 2050.

Parsons Brinckerhoff claims wind power is too unreliable to provide more than 10GW of electricity to the grid, as it is an intermittent source and requires a back up system.

“Without additional fast-response balancing facilities, significant numbers of UK electricity consumers could regularly experience interruptions or a drop in voltage,” said the report.

Parsons Brinckerhoff warns that large investment in wind power undermines the economic case for more-efficient plant types with lower carbon emissions, such as open cycle gas turbines.

It adds that the targets are being undermined by the UK’s EU commitment to generated 20% of its electricity from renewable sources by 2020, and that the UK would have to build power stations at an unprecedented rate to provide enough power from 2020 onwards.

http://www.building.co.uk/story.asp?storycode=3153829&origin=bldgdailynewsletter#ixzz0XhdGGwTe
Copenhagen Countdown: 10 days 1:05pm on 01 Dec 2009 it beggars belief that the BBC can still be reporting climate scare stories, with the breathless innocence of a teenage boy discovering his first love
China completes the climate circle 08:31am on 01 Dec 2009 @maria-ashot

can i breathe yet?
Copenhagen Countdown: 10 days 08:28am on 01 Dec 2009 @PAWB46 #335

wow! the Antarctic not melting!

could you link please for the benefit of the global warm-mongers?

thanks
Copenhagen Countdown: 10 days 08:26am on 01 Dec 2009 @xtragrumpymike2 #289

Six days and counting!

Still no-one prepared to bet on Copenhagen and the outcome?

I predicted a deal would be made at the 11th hour on Richards very first "n days and counting post"

@soveryodd #291

I’m confused. It seems that almost all the ‘sceptics’ sources come through the ‘Wattsupwiththat’ (WUWT) website. This is run by weatherman Anthony Watts who is employed by the far right and morally bankrupt KPAY-FM radio in northern California....

So should the general public believe the nonsense from the above people? Or should they look at this link from Professor Barry Brook who holds the Foundation Sir Hubert Wilkins Chair of Climate Change and is Director of Climate Science at The Environment Institute, University of Adelaide.

I've already commented on your links inability to engage with sceptics who find climate sensitivity to be low through observational methods and his comments being out of date, so i won't repeat here.

It's not about the source, it's about the science. Try playing the ball and not the man. Can you fault the science behind sceptics understanding or can you show that Jones didn't say he would delete the data rather than hand it over?

@soveryodd #300

Yes pph, but all science is based on probability.

No, science is based on evidence and the interpretation of that evidence, until some other evidence comes to light to disprove the original theory

@manysummits #311

How would you say Hansens advocacy sits within the context of his job as a government employee at NASA?

@who said what #312

1, why would temperatures need to be adjusted, If the thermometer says its 13c why would you need to change it to something else?

2, what’s the definition of a climate scientist?

there's no such thing as a stupid question.

1 - because the urban landscape changes over time, adjusting the temperatures is a legitimate tool to make allowance for the build up of cities etc. Unfortunately, if you look at surfacestations website, you will find all sorts of problems with the siting of weatherstations.

2 - good question

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