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Listed below are comments made by FiDafydd between Friday, 30th October 2009 and Sunday, 1st November 2009.

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Last Post ... 6:50pm on 01 Nov 2009 Re 13

Oh dear! I was going to ask for some more meat on the bones of your various accusations; but after this latest message, what's the point? We are back in the hills of Montana and in the realm of the X-Files. Which only begs the question, why should we take anything you say seriously ever again?

Clearly, the Labour Party are rattled in Carmarthenshire. Making vaguely anti Welsh language remarks won't help, believe me. Labour tried that for decades.
Polls apart? 5:26pm on 01 Nov 2009 Re 106

Now who's lost the plot?!
Polls apart? 10:06am on 01 Nov 2009 Re 100

"There is the prospect of the Unionists using the petition as the first step in clipping the nationalist wings."

So, this is all about politics, and nothing to do with democracy! This is just what some of us have been pointing out for days. Nice of the antis to confirm this, though.
Polls apart? 11:47pm on 31 Oct 2009 Re 96

I think you must be rattled after having the nonsense of your petition pointed out to you. How else can you explain telling me that I have contempt for democracy by supporting parliamentary democracy?! Do you no longer believe in parliamentary democracy then? I'll ask again, though I have no expectation that you will answer this or any other question, do you really believe there is need for a referendum regarding the banning of a brand of alcohol? What do you think politicians should be paid to do then? And does this mean than not only do you not see a need for a National Assembly but that is also true of Westminster?

And of course you also say:

"Democracy is damaged by such statements and influences, you obviously believe that your opinion carries greater weight than your neighbour"

I'm sorry? Where is the logic there? I'll tell you where the lack of logic is, however - it's in trhe fact that you personally are going to decide what exactly 40%, 50%, 60% of the Welsh electorate believe at any one time. Doing exactly what you bizarrely were accusing me of in the above sentence.

I think this debate is now over, as you have no answers to any questions. But I'll say this one final time, legislation borne of prejudice is never, ever a good idea.
Polls apart? 6:39pm on 31 Oct 2009 Re 92

Stonemason,

I believe you realise that you have lost the argument, because you refuse absolutely to engage with any of the points made against you. Platitudes alone will get you nowhere, I'm afraid. And, once more - legislation borne out of prejudice is never a good idea.

"At the moment the Swiss are considering a ban on the use of the alcoholic drink "Absinthe",....... would you and yours ask the people directly for such approval. "

- no I wouldn't, it's what I believe parliaments are for. Are you seriously suggesting that you would? But of course it won't require 60% of the Swiss to vote, will it?
Polls apart? 10:49am on 31 Oct 2009 Re 85

Stonemason,

You keep on digging...

There is an enormous contradiction or a gaping hole in your argument - that no amount of claiming that you are the saviour of democracy will put right!

"..... others wish for a more inclusive politics, where the views of people are relevant;"

You couldn't give a damn what people think, because you have decided that you know better, and that you will decide for them. Whether we like it or not, people can, and people do decide not to vote. You have put yourself up as a King Solomon who knows exactly what they think! Hardly democratic, hardly making the views of people relevant.

Could you tell me please whether Switzerland demands that very same 60% of the electorate? It does work in Switzerland, you're right, and they accept the turnout as an integral part of the democratic process. So, you're inconsistent - again!

So, yes, there is a prejudice here, and it has nothing whatsoever to do with democracy...
Polls apart? 11:51pm on 30 Oct 2009 Re 82

Excellent question! There seem to be very few answers, though - generalities yes - specifics, answers; none. Nothing as messy as this deserves to get anywhere near the realms of legislation. But no one, from this evidence, need worry about that; legislation emanating from prejudice is never a good idea.
Polls apart? 3:15pm on 30 Oct 2009 Re 79

Every single transfer of powers alters Wales's relationship with the UK. So it follows that you would want a referendum every other week. I think you might struggle to get 60% to turn out every time in that case. But, of course, that's what you want isn't it? The idea that you're doing this for the sake of democracy becomes more of a sham with each message you post. Sadly.
Polls apart? 11:00am on 30 Oct 2009 Re 73

Ah, but it is true, Stonemason, that you have stated in a previous blog that one person should be able to frustrate the will of the vast, vast majority. So, your democratic principles are dubious at best, I'd say! I'll repeat, legislation emanating in prejudice is not a good idea.
Polls apart? 10:34am on 30 Oct 2009 I can only agree with Lyn and penddu and their sheer common sense.

But let me pick you up on another sentence of yours Stonemason in your no.65

" Great Britain, as the cradle of democracy, has led the world in democratic government, the assumption here is that the people are as important as the government."

Forget the 'cradle of democracy' bit which has been well and truly debunked already, it's the end of that sentence that I find incredible. Until recent FOI legislation - not passed by a Tory government of course - the level of secrecy practiced by the British state was extraordinary. It's still pretty bad.

Also, and it's that woman Thatcher again; there was little sign of the little people having much power against the state then - a politicised police force during the miners' strike, GCHQ and a general unacceptance that she could possibly be mistaken about anything when she was actually wrong on most things. And all this with a percentage mandate of, at best, the mid 40's. It was a nightmare time when it was the will of the people of Billericay that held sway here in Wales. We were effectively powerless and disenfranchised. That is one very good reason why we got our National Assembly in the first place.

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