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Listed below are comments made by SteveAustin87 between Monday, 19th October 2009 and Tuesday, 20th October 2009.

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Caught up in a conspiracy theory 7:33pm on 20 Oct 2009 @5592 carlito wrote:

"You misunderstand my role here. My role is to point and laugh. Your role is to prove your case about 9/11."

LOL, you misunderstand a lot. Your OCT has not been proven, it has been shown to be full of holes and lies, hence your OCT is not proven! So why don't you try and prove your case? Remember it is the OCT that was first put out as "what happened", yet it has not been proven to be correct. You as a supporter of that first initial "theory" need to show why anyone should believe it!

But thanks for playing, as a consolation prize we have the complete destruction of the Western world as we know it!

FYI!

"Ridicule, ridicule, ridicule. It is far and away the single most chillingly effective weapon in the war against discovery and innovation. Ridicule has the unique power to make people of virtually any persuasion go completely unconscious in a twinkling. It fails to sway only those few who are of sufficiently independent mind not to buy into the kind of emotional consensus that ridicule provides."

The unfortunate thing for you carlito is that no one is laughing WITH you here, your really and truly are alone, so this fraudulent tactic actually backfires on you because we ALL see through it.

Maybe you should go back to JREF nominate someone else for a stundie, that might make you feel better!
Caught up in a conspiracy theory 6:39pm on 20 Oct 2009 @5590 carlito wrote:

"8 years later, not one firefighter flew to Brazil and wrote a book, blowing the whistle on 'bombs in the buildings.' That seems so ... unlikely."

Argument from incredulity, nice one. "I find that hard to believe, so i't can't be".

Maybe none of them can afford to. Maybe none of them are brave enough.

Maybe carlito is again dodging and ignoring everything posted here again!

But welcome back carlito, I thought you had flown the coup, like tom did.

BTW carlito, you will let me know if I win that stundie right? I'm sitting in my seat in anticipation of an explanation of why it's a stundie as well... but i'm not expecting any reply there, that would just ruin the stundie wouldn't it!
Caught up in a conspiracy theory 5:52pm on 20 Oct 2009 http://www.infowars.com/ex-cia-chief-james-woolsey-handed-down-gag-order-to-911-firefighters/
"Ex-CIA Chief James Woolsey handed down gag-order to 9/11 Firefighters"

“[Lieutenant Fireman and former Auxiliary Police Officer, Paul Isaac Jr.] explained to me [Lavello] that, ‘many other firemen know there were bombs in the buildings, but they’re afraid for their jobs to admit it because the ‘higher-ups’ forbid discussion of this fact.” Paul further elaborated that former CIA director Robert Woolsey, as the Fire Department’s Anti-terrorism Consultant, is sending a gag order down the ranks. ‘There were definitely bombs in those buildings,’ he told me.”
Caught up in a conspiracy theory 2:43pm on 20 Oct 2009 http://www.lewrockwell.com/celente/celente17.1.html
"The History of the Future: Trends 2012"

Nice read...all 24 pages
Caught up in a conspiracy theory 7:54pm on 19 Oct 2009 http://www.911blogger.com/node/21664

"AE911Truth at NIST: 'Dr. Sunder: come clean with the American people' "

Seems NIST is running away from AE911Truth, no surprise really!

"Richard Gage, AIA, founder of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, visits the National Institute of Standards and Technology after NIST's lead investigator for the World Trade Center disaster. Shyam Sunder, declines to meet with him."
Caught up in a conspiracy theory 6:36pm on 19 Oct 2009 Ynda, check it out...

http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=127916

Your information on "noise abatement" has made some of the rounds.

I also recall it being posted over at WRH (I remember because I was the one that sent Mike Rivero the link from here :} )
Caught up in a conspiracy theory 5:33pm on 19 Oct 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWXx2VYoqbU&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwhatreallyhappened.com%2F
"The Truth About the 2009 Gaza Massacre"

"With the United Nations now acknowledging that Israel's actions in Gaza amounted to war crimes, Obama's video statements of unquestioning support for Israel are in essence a confession that he too is a war criminal.

Please forward and repost this everywhere!"
Caught up in a conspiracy theory 4:51pm on 19 Oct 2009 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3776750618788792499&ei=bEs-SuuIEojYwgP5peHjAw&q=new+american+century#

"The New American Century"

"This film exposes how every major war in US history was based on a complete fraud with video of insiders themselves admitting it."
Caught up in a conspiracy theory 3:29pm on 19 Oct 2009 @5577 bluenwhitehoops wrote:

"My copy of DRGs book on WTC 7 was put through my letter box today"

I'll definitely have to pick up a copy when I can. Sounds like another excellent book
Caught up in a conspiracy theory 3:28pm on 19 Oct 2009 @5576 sirjohnwood wrote:

"'Misdirection' and 'deception' are useful tools for certain trades, in particular illusionists, mentalists and magicians.
'Misdirection' and 'deception' are also sometimes used as tools in other trades: PR, corporate/military/government soundbytes. In these areas, their use is more subtle.
PR spokesman, spin doctors and certain columnists/journalists may misdirect by:
- framing the discussion in a particular way
- limiting the debate between pre-constructed goal-posts
- making use of Lies of Omission or Black Holes
- disabling critical thinking by use of appeals to patriotism, accusations of racism, rude name-calling, smear, derision, playing up nonsense and ignoring/dishonestly attacking inconvenient facts."

@5578 Angel_in_Transit wrote:

"sirjohnwood: Your final paragraph on misdirection is detailed and precise."

Yes it is...as is your final paragraph

Angel_in_Transit continues;

"In magic the key to misdirection is subtlety, since whilst the magician "fools" the conscious mind of the audience he/she does not "fool" the subconscious. There are critical reasons for this involving our survival, perhaps not crucial in a magical trick, but certainly so if mesmerised by a dangerous wild animal. Those who practice self hypnosis will be aware of a "hinterland" trance state between subconscious and conscious sometimes called "automatic" which is acutely aware of what it is "sensing". This state could defeat a magician's attempts at misdirection.

I think the most critical part of misdirection in 911 were the "setting of the goal posts", "ensuring that discussion was concentrated, focused and restricted", "gaining trust of the media", "harmless trickle fed evidence backing the debating model", "use of public paranoia to defeat scepticism". We also have evidence of "illusion" whereby limited visual "fires" are turned into "intense, damaging" pockets of heat. Our visual memory is good but we are easily manoeuvred into believing exaggerations by other witnesses (not to be outdone perhaps). Optical illusions may also be used to "bend" evidence, something done in the distortion of video in the collapses.

At the end of the trick when and if the audience is invited to check the equipment, the molten metal will be explained away, etc. Crucially the whole depends on people "believing" that someone else with superior knowledge will check out what they feel is beyond them. As in any trick there is a shared intimacy between those who have been "fooled" by the magic and it is easier for them to praise the magician than berate themselves."

Both are definitely worth repeating!

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