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Cameron tougher on Lisbon? 9:26pm on 29 May 2009 By all means give the Brits the referendum they so desire..

But at the same time give the rest of us in the EU a referendum on whether we want them in - or whether we should continue without them..

I imagine it's Hague who's putting pressure on Cameron. Perhaps that was part of the deal. Hague wouldn't challenge Cameron so long as he gets the Foreign Office and pushes through his 'one week to save the pound views'..

We're in for some stormy times in the REST EU if the tories get in.. But the EU will see it through - it always does, because there's no alternative..
Null points from the Berlin jury 12:07pm on 12 Dec 2008 I have to say, the perception in Germany of what the British Government is doing, is that of 'the arsonists' suddenly becoming 'the firemen'.

The British Government's position sounds like pure spin.. that's the problem, after eleven years of spin.. no-one believes them anymore..
Festive Germans still prudent 10:25am on 12 Dec 2008 I have to say, the perception in Germany of what the British Government is doing, is that of 'the arsonists' suddenly becoming 'the firemen'.

The British Government's position sounds like pure spin.. that's the problem, after eleven years of spin.. no-one believes them anymore..
Festive Germans still prudent 07:59am on 09 Dec 2008 @SuffolkBoy

Once again you're 'Off Subject' and I do sometimes wonder if you bore your family as much as you do the readers here with your warped views..

I have to say, I prefer living in a Germany where Governments over the years have invested in the national infrastructure, rather than in a Suffolk, which never got much from a London Parliament..

and which through German eyes looks rather poor!
Germany loses revs 7:32pm on 15 Nov 2008 #61 You obviously need some serious help..

seek it out..!

The old Fascist cliches and calling people clowns just doesn't wash anymore.

I'm not sure from which shining democracy you are writing from:

The UK where the present government rules after winning 35,5% of the vote on a 61,3% turnout.

Or from the US where the president is elected by ludicrous system of State votes..

Of course, only German (to bring the thread back on subject) comes out well in this, with its consensus based proportional representation.
Germany loses revs 3:05pm on 15 Nov 2008 Marcus #43 .. 'Man ist was man isst!' or You are what you what eat..!

Oh dear, after slogging through your last piece.. I'm beginning to wonder if not most Americans are like their food.. processed!

Actually, the country where the majority of its citizens live in bubble is the US. In comparison to Europe, many fewer travel abroad. I even heard somewhere that some of their politicians think that Africa is a country :o) We've all heard the story of putting an atlas in front an American and asking them to pick out countries on it..

And a small tip: If you want to keep jobs in the US, start manufacturing goods of the same quality as the Germans .. quite simple..

BTW, I understood Obama's visit to Berlin to be a sign that he wants to improve relations with 'old Europe'. I think he also wanted to show those at home that Americans can be welcomed in Europe ..

Lets hope things improve soon.

And then it's always great fun to read the Brits whining on about French & German domination of Europe.

The UK always draws back from making any decisions, sulks in the corner or uses bully-boy tactics because it can't get its way (or dominate) the other 26. Then it has the cheek to accuse the others of wanting to dominate when the reverse is actually the case.

Next year, we hope to celebrate 10 years of the Euro.. No doubt the doom and gloom merchants here will say 'it won't last.. we're better off out..' Oh yeah.. we've heard it all before..
Germany loses revs 8:55pm on 14 Nov 2008 #24 Schucki.. Ich lebe in Ostdeutschland..

Yes that's right, I live in Eastern Germany and in fact I've travelled between the UK and De for over twenty-five years.. But I was born in the UK... So please don't tell me that I don't know about the two, I know them both extremely well.

The point about unification that I'm trying to make is that Germany has achieved something that wouldn't/couldn't have happened in the UK or perhaps anywhere else.

Of course the wealth isn't evenly spread out. Is it in Britain? Even after 800 years or so democracy. How could Germany manage that, when the Brits and the USA also haven't?

An inferiority complex.. me? nah!

If it wasn't so serious I would find it amusing that the 'roosters have come home to roost' in Britain.. After all the bragging and telling us we were on the wrong track .. hah! I'll stick with the German 'Sozialer Markwirtschaft' way of doing things any day..
Germany loses revs 8:37pm on 14 Nov 2008 #22 That's fine if you think the Uk is better off without the Euro.. great..

Then why don't you leave the EU? dis-engage from your largest market..? Throw up the last few chances you have..? Become the Isle of Wight of Europe..!

I bet the silent majority in Britain wouldn't do it..

Anyway this thread is about Germany and the Britain's realtionship with the Euro..

But lastly as a tease, I bet Denmark joins the Euro within the next five years.. over 50% in polls there.. are now for it..

That will leave the UK isolated.. oh sorry .. I forgot 'Fog in London' 'The continent's cut off'
Germany loses revs 7:37pm on 14 Nov 2008 You really don't get it do you?

#18 My blame game as you call it, is to make you realise that things have to change.
The rest of the world wants a change and won't be prepared to carry on as before.

Opel in Germany, actually an American owned company has asked the German government just TODAY to give financial assurances, because the American owners can't give them.. What a state of affairs..!!

While Wall Street and the City were playing monopoly, Germany was working hard, rebuilding the country and trying to create real wealth.

#17 Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not a German.. I was born in English speaking country..

Germany's bubble hasn't burst at all.. It has achieved something that probably no other countries could acheive.. It has absorbed a bankrupt communist country with 17 million people.. Go to the Eastern part of Germany today and you'll see investment in the infrastructure that would be the pride of the UK or USA. That's the real reason for the unemployment in Germany.. How to find jobs for so many people?

People in Eastern Germany still have a better standard of living now than people in parts of Britain and the USA.. Not perfect.. but getting there.. German workers are still more productive, save more than Brits and in the USA..

I understand, why everyone is so keen to talk Germany down.. but you've lost the argument..
Germany loses revs 4:44pm on 14 Nov 2008 #11 exactly..

When the UK together with the US excepts its responsibilty for the crisis, rather than taking the we know best attitude.. we might be a bit further on..

They were the countries that said deregulation was best, let the market regulate itself.. huh where are Thatcher & Reagan now..? Also if they hadn't been pumping billions into a illegal war.. and of course, we were told 'Old Europe'... need to get up to date.. oh yeah?

A mere 'house bubble' you call it..? Hhhm..!

It took Germany two major defeats and almost total destruction to learn to be what it is today.. What the majority here secretly admire.

I hope the UK will at last learn that is just a middle-weight offshore country, nothing special, just like many others and learn to act accordingly. That's why I hope that when it is sinking, like the pound currently is.. we Europeans let them stew a bit..

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