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Listed below are comments made by KingCelticLion between Wednesday, 28th October 2009 and Sunday, 1st November 2009.

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Friday 30 October 2009 9:37pm on 01 Nov 2009 #78 brightyangthing

35 is old enough. You can remember the time before. Things change so fast now. 10 years ago very few knew about climate change, now it children who the message is aimed at. 10 year old don't know of a time when they weren't told the atmosphere wasn't going to kill them. That is the fear they have always known.

Now children will only know a world when you can't help someone if you don't have the certificate. And if someone doesn't have the certificate then they are to be feared.

No 35 is old enough to be rapidly separated from the world children now are being born into.
Friday 30 October 2009 7:10pm on 01 Nov 2009 #69 brightyangthing

Interesting posts. These are things I think but get so depressed about I can't be bothered to write them down. Thanks for doing it for me.

Care and compassion is being removed from the individual and community and being institutionalised. Soon it will be illegal for someone to care about another person. Unless they have the appropriate certificates and have attended the courses.

As time goes on it will be only us older ones who will be able to remember the time when it wasn't illegal to care for or look for another person.

Younger ones will be just born into a world where they are told everyone is bad and they can't help someone else unless they have the appropriate documentation.

Once it is made illegal for each of us to care. Then the opposite negatives will fill the void in our society. The future is bleak and extremely scary.
Friday 30 October 2009 9:11pm on 30 Oct 2009 Drugs

What if some drugs were socially beneficial? What if some drugs caused people to think? What if some drugs caused people to question what they are presented as reality? What if?

You know Solomon, tomb, wisdom, herb etc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVG_dT6VuCQ

But it's been said before
Thursday 29 October 2009 8:41pm on 30 Oct 2009 There is one post above and it is not mine which I find unbelieveable, unbelieveable that someone would write it and unbelievable that it got past the mods.

If anyone disagres with my views on climate change. All I can add is I am very concerned of what is being presented by politicians and the media as the truth.

For the sake of my family and friends I would much prefer that with a proper team as project manager control, the pretenders stood aside and let us sort out the planetary ecosystem.

At present we are being taken along a branch along the evolutionary tree of life that leads to extinction. Unfortunately in the kingdom of the blind the one eyed man is king.

Celtic Lion
Thursday 29 October 2009 5:08pm on 30 Oct 2009 #34 Go1

It is about understanding scientific methodology etc. When I was invited to attend the conference to set up the new generation of UK earth system models, we had a certain amount of pre conference information.

The jist was that the conference was to be a discussion of 'blue sky' (their words) thinking regarding modelling the earth system. ie an anything goes no boundaries look at Earth systems. That was part of the scientific brief I was given.

Now the project was funded by the NERC, natural environment research council, which obtains it's finances from DEFRA.

So the speakers opened the conference on the scientific aspects of what we were to do. Then the man from DEFRA spoke-the government funder. He then specifically stipulated what ever we did had to be directly compatible with the existing Hadley Centre models.

Don't bother asking Susan Watts or any of the environmental correspondents they weren't there. Whatever the original scientific brief was immediately compromised and had to fit in with the parameters of the Government's funding brief. What and how the models looked at things was not an open scientific exercise, but determined by a political financial restriction.

You must also remember what even many scientist forget. Models are only representations of reality, they are not reality. Go back 500 years and 99% of scientists may agree that the best representation of reality is that the earth is the centre of the universe and the heavenly bodies orbit round it supported on crystal spheres. That was their consensus of the model of reality. It took people like Copernicus and Galileo to gradually change this consensus and move the paradigm on to another construct.

Forget climate change for a short while, it is a small convenient soundbite. What we should be talking is effective sustainable planetary management to referencedce to number of underlying agreed references.

Unfortunately the management of our planet has been historically done by the political-economic system, which has objectives which are or may be not compatible with sustainable planetary management. This historical system of control is not going to give up it's controlling interest.

So effective planetary ecological management has to be somehow incorporated into a political economic system in a way which they can still have control over it with reference to their existing norms and institutions.

Hence we have climate change equals carbon equals cap and trade etc. carbon replacing money of the historical trading and banking power structures. What you then have is not the most effective way or representation of understanding or managing a planet. But a way which is more compatible with the methodology of existing global power structures.

It is not the right way or the best way. They couldn't even manage a simple sub system of a sub system of a planet- the economic system.

Do you really think having made a mess of that they are going to do any better? Carbon is just one part of the ecological homeostasis of the planet. The political economic power structures of the planet have decided this is their tool for management and control. And this is going to be done through cap and trade.

Each step they take is further away from a true full understanding of how a planet operates, further into an over simplified reductionist construct, further from the reality. But it is being done not to just effectively manage a planet, but also to fit in with existing artificial political economic power structures. Effective methodology has been compromised.

I agree that carbon is part of the climate processes of the planet so I am part of the 99%. But I will never accept that the deliberately over simplified concept of climate change is only carbon will ever work.

There is more to a planet than climate and there is more to climate than carbon. In this march to global control control of the population by carbon trading and allocation etc, the real dangers and the proper solutions will be missed by the narrowing of vision and focus on carbon carbon.

Celtic Lion
Thursday 29 October 2009 11:58am on 30 Oct 2009 #28 Wappaho

Thanks for the development link. Makes sense. That is common sense, unfortunately not Government sense.
Thursday 29 October 2009 09:15am on 30 Oct 2009 #8 anointed one

There must be some substance to what you write. The conference will do nothing regarding climate change. So what is it's purpose. one must ask by default.

Celtic Lion
Thursday 29 October 2009 09:09am on 30 Oct 2009 Lawyers

One area the NAO hasn't covered is lawyers and police officers forging arrest and custody records in police stations together with associated evidence.

This allows memmbers of the public who have never commited an offence, been arrested or charged with an offence to be convicted for crimes the police and lawyers have fabricated.

The lawyer signs a custody record saying he has seen a client, which they never has, so can claim from the legal aid, the police get a 100% clear up for offences they have invented.

Simple and lucrative.

Celtic Lion
Thursday 29 October 2009 8:50pm on 29 Oct 2009 Carbon

Oh they are at it again with this carbon nonsense. How is that from pre school I've studied ecology, even did a bit on the UK climate models that contributed to a Nobel. Yet some politicians who did art history and political philosophy last week discovered climate change and over the weekend and serious believe they can manage the ecology of a planet by discussing cap and trade. They are completely delusional.

I can't really be bothered even to discuss carbon and Earth systems.

Handbrakes are good, they have them on cars. Quite important really. If you didn't have one your car would roll down a hill and crash. The funny thing is if you leave them on no matter how good the engine they will affect the performance of the car. All that complex technology completely undermined by a two of bits of composite material, a couple of springs and a bit of steel cable.

When people take a driving test they have to be able to use a handbrake. Strange thing is if people only learned about and were tested on handbrakes, they wouldn't be able to drive a car. The handbrake being only part of the system which controls a car.

Anyway enough about handbrakes and cars, I should be enquiring about politicians and carbon and Earth system processes.

Celtic Lion
Tuesday 27 October 2009 09:57am on 28 Oct 2009 Just a quick story from history re some of the comments here and might assist Go1 and others in understanding something about the BNP, PC, hate, subversion, society etc.

Sometimes I post reggae tracks here. It is very simple to type the name of a reggae artist eg Bob Marley and the name Marcus Garvey into a search engine and you will get a result. Why?

Marcus Garvey was an early 20century black rights activist. One of the few groups he had no problem with and indeed had a certain amount of respect for was the Klu Klux Klan. Bizarre?

No not as Garvey saw it. He saw the clan as honest and none hypocritical. He knew where he stood with the clan. What you see is what you get.

What concerned Garvey more was the deep, hidden, subversive hatred. Covered by layers of what we now call PC etc.

I don't have to write much here just give an introduction. Search for Marcus Garvey and read his Wiki or listen to any politically and ideologically aware reggae artist. His relationship with the Klan is relevant to some of the discussion both here and in the past on these blogs.

Celtic Lion

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