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Listed below are comments made by MikeSC6 between Saturday, 18th October 2008 and Tuesday, 9th December 2008.

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One law for the rich... 4:09pm on 09 Dec 2008 Sorry for the double post, but I forgot...

Nice article! Good read :)
One law for the rich... 4:03pm on 09 Dec 2008 Thinking about it... why are fines part of law too?

It should either be percentage fines, or time, instead, I guess. That'd be fairer, rather than the poorer being fined life-changing amounts that for the rich is just small change.
Obamanomics 3:52pm on 09 Dec 2008 It's sad how people call bias on anything that isn't completely in step with what their tabloid of choice is spewing.
Oft-asked question 12:58pm on 01 Dec 2008 If anyone posting here had solicited a civil servant to give them government documents- you'd be treated the same. Why support one law for politicians and one for the rest?

And the government hasn't interfered with the police despite the PR disaster this is causing. It's quite ironic how their abstention from interfering has them labelled Stalinists... it's like the opposite of Stalinism.

More evidence to throw on the "People are hypocrites" pile. Not so long ago we were slagging off the government for not taking care of its documents, now we're slagging it off for the opposite!

Does anyone know what the nature of these documents are? The media doesn't seem to have printed it anywhere I can find... doesn't that make all the difference? What if it is actually something pertaining to national security or whatever?
Forcing the banks 7:43pm on 06 Nov 2008 They're scared of doing anything that could be construed as socialist :/
A fairer society? 3:11pm on 19 Oct 2008 "221 that a great idea and would work in a marxist system but any mention of marx causes the americans to see red."

Haha, very nice!
A fairer society? 10:13pm on 18 Oct 2008 "Wealth redistribution. A Socialist dream. However, wealth creation, a market reality."

Socialism as I understand it doesn't deal in wealth or profit. In capitalism, simplistically, a worker gets paid what the employer judges the work is worth. The employer then sells the produce for much more than they considered the production of it to be worth. That's profit!

Socialism/Communism has no "profit". Everyone gets paid equally, and that produce costs to buy the amount it cost in hours and materials to make- with no "profit" expectedd. Stuff is made to be used, not to be marked up.

The whole concept of "profit" is really just a con according to socialism. Workers make goods, get paid for the goods. Employers sell these goods back to the workers for more than they judged the work producing it to be worth. This is called profit! The employers produce nothing themselves, and don't organise or help with the production. They really just mastermind and benefit from the "profit con".

That's what I understand the thinking behind socialism to be- wealth isn't even an issue.
A fairer society? 5:40pm on 18 Oct 2008 Lots of talk about the "idle poor" in this thread. Are you talking about the unemployed- on insignificant amounts not because they choose to- but because bosses have laid them off? People made-ready by the education system for jobs that aren't there?

Or the employed poor- still on insignificant amounts despite putting in more hours and more effort than any of the rich?

What about the 100 hour-a-week subsistence wages foreign workers that provide "successful businessmen" with their "success"? Or the much-maligned immigrant worker- the high productivity, low cost immigrant worker?

What about the idle rich- the landowners, those with inheritances, those with wages hideously out of proportion with their productivity? The money jugglers who produce nothing and get millions for it?

This stereotype of those on welfare is abhorrent. It's pure media fuelled ignorance.
A fairer society? 2:29pm on 18 Oct 2008 I'll certainly check out that Chinese Whispers book! Amazon reviewers all seem to love it.

I don't think that exploitation at home is at all justifiable, just that it isn't as pronounced and "in your face" as say, thirty years ago when it was obvious- on the news, in the streets, down the mines. We don't have any leftists forcing people to face the cause of their wealth anymore.

Socialism seems to be a spent force. It's a word furtively whispered on politics programmes and dismissed out of hand (it was said Socialism was "proved wrong" by the "success" of Free Marketism and the hiding of it's exploitation- can this argument still be upheld?)
A fairer society? 1:30pm on 18 Oct 2008 *It's a problem, sure- but I think there's a more pressing problem- the exploitation of foreign workers by our companies- the bedrock of the wealth of this society is hard work not by our underpaid big strong working class man stereotype.

Bad typo in my last comment! This is what it's meant to say, if anyone's confused (if anyone even reads comments this far down, that is).

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