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Listed below are comments made by SallyCyork between Monday, 1st December 2008 and Wednesday, 3rd December 2008.

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Nostalgic reminder 1:59pm on 03 Dec 2008 Sir Paul said the police made the decision to arrest not ministers. Saying anything else would loose him his job -this one or the next.
But that is beside the point.

1.Why was the DPP not asked. They asked the CPS about other parts of the inquiry. Why not this, the most important part?

Sir Kenneth MacDonald, the former DDP made clear last night his disquiet and assured everyone the DDP was 'informed but not consulted' about 30 mins before. The arrogance and stupidity beggers belief. It was not urgent. They had days. What does it say about their judgement elsewhere?

2.He says ministers did not make the decision - but were they informed? If so why did they not ask if the DDP had been consulted rather than leave the decision to 2 men who want to be the next Commissioner.

3.Why was the search of the House consensual? Were the authorities told the DDP had consented?
In retreat 00:15am on 03 Dec 2008 Misses the point.

The police should never have been involved. The former DDP on Newnight said they should have been consulting the DDP and were not.

Serious questions would have been raised including
- the level of seriousness of the leaks
- the evidence
- the constitution
- parliamentary traditions, including leaking
- the British juries unwillingness to convict leakers.
Meet the Home Office mole 8:23pm on 01 Dec 2008 Your collegue Carol Walker said the sloicitors refused to comments on whether inducements were offered .
That is inaccurate.
Disgraceful.
Meet the Home Office mole 6:24pm on 01 Dec 2008 Noting one of the comments above I would like to say the treatment metered out to him was a disgrace and I would like to apologise on behalf of the British people, because the Govt won't.
Meet the Home Office mole 6:21pm on 01 Dec 2008 Time for a lot of people to eat their words.

Where did all those reports /leaks[?]come from saying he had reported to the police he was 'groomed' or induced.
Lies
The police?
The Govt?

John Charles all over again. So Mr Galley told them 'everything' and this is it!

Green was telling the truth. And Green was arrested on a fishing expedition so they could search without having to get a warrant signed off by a judge/magistrate - that would almost certainly have been an obstacle.

This shows why Jaqui's excuse that she was not following events to be as bad is if she were.
Oft-asked question 2:16pm on 01 Dec 2008 The fact - as disclosed quite openly by the Daily Mail" that this person is a Conservative activist obviously cannot be ignored!

Yes it can. greatandydudley

And should. Read Robinson's article [the Labour QC not this one] in the Evening Standard.
His report is based on the law and is not issued from Labour HQ.
Oft-asked question 1:58pm on 01 Dec 2008 199 No you don't get it.
From a former BBC man and former Labour party man now a LibDem.

'Everybody seems to be getting bogged down in the detail and is missing the big point - what Green did has been part and parcel of the political process for generations and it is a nonsense and an outrage that it should be regarded as a crime.

James Forsyth sums it up well on the Spectator Coffeehouse blog: “If what Damian Green did was illegal, opposition politicians have been committing illegal acts for as long as anyone can remember. (Even if the leaks were being encouraged then that is hardly new). The power of the state is such that the benefit of the doubt should go to the opposition in these matters. Also, the consequences of fully investigating these leaks are worse than the leaks itself: can anyone be comfortable with the idea of opposition politicians having their phones bugged by our over-mighty police force? Labour, who will in all likelihood be on the other side of this divide within a year or two, would do well to remember this.”

So who cares if Green was encouraging his leaker? Who cares who knew what when? Provided there is no question of the nation’s security being at stake - which given the nature of the suggested “offence” we must assume - then it is loopy for this to have got to where it has.'
Oft-asked question 1:47pm on 01 Dec 2008 Can I suggest Nick reads Mike Smithson at Political Betting?

A taster.
'Everybody seems to be getting bogged down in the detail and is missing the big point - what Green did has been part and parcel of the political process for generations and it is a nonsense and an outrage that it should be regarded as a crime.'
Oft-asked question 1:11pm on 01 Dec 2008 One more Labour commentator who can see what Nick can't.

Martin Bright and his volley at the Progress conference on Labour ministers’ reaction to the arrest of Damian Green hit upon an important point:

“It is important to debate the end of ideology. But what about the end of principle?

I was told I had five minutes for introductory comments, which is always too much on these occasions, but all that really needs to be said is two words: Damian Green.

What a disgrace this incident has been. To hear Labour Cabinet ministers who happily fed journalists leaked information during their years in opposition defending the 'independent operational action' of the police is quite staggering.

The question in this case is not whether ministers knew about the operation, but how disgusted they were when they found out. To hear Geoff Hoon on Any Questions refusing to answer whether he had any qualms about such heavy-handed tactics. Any qualms! At that point I wondered whether this government had any principles left.

So what has this to do with ideology? Well, everything. To forget one’s principles as a parliamentarian is to demonstrate that politics has become purely tribal -- Damian Green must have done something wrong because he is a Tory.”
Oft-asked question 12:26pm on 01 Dec 2008 83. Fatbrain UK
'Do I hear Tories writing to BBC?'

Probably, though many have given up on it.

Which is more dangerous for the BBC than it is the Tories.

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